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Muni Long (105,185) by Jamie from UK
Ah I stay on Peachtree when I go to ATL. I’m there Friday.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 16:41)
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Muni Long (105,184) by Bobby A from United States
I love it too, Terna. She is really Priscilla Renae who co-wrote A No No with MC.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 13:14)
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Muni Long (105,183) by Bobby A from United States
Matty, that's funny. Enjoy your stay. I will be back in the A in June for my summer road trip.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 13:12)
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Muni Long (105,182) by Zachariah from Croatia
His work on Brooke Valentine's album was epic back in 2005. Great sound, I loved the whole album. Great producer.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 08:57)
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Muni Long (105,181) by Stacey from USA
Haha, oops. Just another manic Monday, lol.

(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 07:11)
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Muni Long (105,180) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Robert-Anthony, this is so random. I'm in ATL for work this week and staying on Peachtree St. Hahahaha Vancouver to Atlanta couldn't be farther apart, yet here I sit in my hotel room on Peachtree St. on my first night here. I haven't been to ATL in almost four years. What a random coincidence.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 06:54)
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Muni Long (105,179) by Bobby A from United States
That pre-chorus section gets me everytime. I miss Atlanta because of the slow jam ballads like Made For Me bumping in my speakers with the top down cruising on Peachtree Street.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 00:56)
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Muni Long (105,178) by Bobby A from United States
I imagine on a 2024 JD and MC song, MC would say, "If Jermaine likes it then I like it." His signature tag is so lame now, but he still used it on Ari Lennox's throwback R&B influenced 60s track Pressure.
(Tuesday 30 January 2024; 00:45)
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Muni Long (105,177) by Terna from Nigeria
Get him banned already. Offence - irritable sarcasm.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 21:47)
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Muni Long (105,176) by Terna from Nigeria
I can never forgive him for ruining "Love Story".
(Monday 29 January 2024; 21:43)
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Muni Long (105,175) by Edward from USA
Stacey, I think he's talking about Jeremy Mash, not Jermaine Dupri.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 21:12)
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Muni Long (105,174) by Stacey from USA
I love Jermaine. I could do with a bit less "ya'all know what this is". But there is no denying they created magic.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 20:43)
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Who is Caution about? (105,173) by Edward from USA
Different from what fans tend to do when Mariah has a fallen out with someone, I don't take away his credit. They made great music together, but what Mariah and Walter had was on a different level.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 20:22)
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Who is Caution about? (105,172) by Bobby A from United States
Both of them were inexperinced with the ends and outs of the music industry trying to pursue their dreams. It's a shame that we never experienced another Love Takes Time ballad. I believe Ben's compositions with MC gave us more of Mariah's distinct melodies than Walter A's songs did. Walter A's songs with other artists always had that a small element of melody and instrumentation of songs that he composed with Mariah. For example, Leona Lewis' Here I Am. MC sure does have a long list of songwriters, producers, singers, and rappers that we will never experience a repeat collaboration.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 19:45)
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Muni Long (105,171) by Terna from Nigeria
Say what you want about Jermash, his writing team always hit bullseye, Muni Long's new song goes hard and is gaining traction on social media, I loved it with the very first listen.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 18:10)
Who is Caution about? (105,170) by Edward from USA
I don't think that's the case. Their parting of ways was due to a contract they signed before she was signed to Colombia. Mariah had agreed to split not only the songwriting royalties from the songs, but half of her earnings as well, something she never thought twice about while writing songs in his father's basement.

When the time came to write music for Emotions, Sony officials made it clear he would only be paid the fair amount given to co-writers on an album. Ben didn't like it and filed a lawsuit against Sony, claiming that under contract, he would be entitled to work with Carey, as well as reap extra benefits. A judge settled that Margulies was to earn ten percent of Carey's direct earnings from her record sales, not including an income from any other ventures, but at that point their relationship was ruined.

In an interview, back then, Mariah stated: "I signed blindly. Later, I tried to make it right so we could continue, but he wouldn't accept it."
(Monday 29 January 2024; 16:41)
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Who is Caution about? (105,169) by Edward from USA
Once signed to Colombia, Mariah continued working with Ben Margulies, but they were not going anywhere in terms of producing her first album. Mariah thought they could, but they were not ready for that. At that time they were working from his improvised studio at a basement. Tommy eventually had to step in by bringing big names producers and that's when things started moving on.

Mariah doesn't mention Ben much because he basically took advantage of a very young Mariah by making her sign a contract in which he ended up getting paid for multiple albums in which he didn't have any input.


(Monday 29 January 2024; 16:16)
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Who is Caution about? (105,168) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Good questions. I do believe that Ben was in love with Mariah. Who could not in 90? But of course we don't know. I can't remember from the book too. I have the original in English and it was not easy to read as an non-native speaker. So maybe some of you know more from the chapter of her book?

I think if Tommy wasn't so controlling, it could have worked out. At least longer than it did. It's really a tragic "love story". Yes, Glitter wouldn't have happened.

I have to listen to Caution today. "Giving me Life" is so cool. Could it be about Derek Jeter because of the Norma Jean reference like Marilyn and Joe DiMaggio?
(Monday 29 January 2024; 13:39)
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Who is Caution about? (105,167) by Jamie from UK
I was only thinking about Ben Margulies the other day. Do you think he was infatuated with Mariah and that's why he was side lined? Seems odd that he co wrote her first three singles all going to number one. I may have forgotten something from the book, it's a while since I read it and I'm old lol. Was it the start of Tommy's control?

Was also curious the other day, had Mariah not wanted to break out into R&B at the time would her marriage to Tommy have lasted longer? She clearly says in Petals that she really loved him. If he'd not been so controlling I wonder if they could have worked for longer. Relationships are complicated things and sometimes it's a case of two people being out the worst in each other but you can still truly love the person. Had they lasted longer in be interested to see what her next couple of albums would have been like, Glitter wouldn't have happened, whilst bipolar is generally inherited (I have it myself) she may not have had such a severe breakdown and maybe would not have as many issues now.

This is just me thinking hypothetically I'm just interested in peoples spin on things.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 11:00)
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Could be Epic ... queen of reimagining (105,166) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
What if Mariah, queen of reimagining music, released an album that is 10 tracks long - all the exact same lyrics, but reimagined as a Jazz album, Dance/disco album, Indi Rock album (ah la Ugly Daughter) and gospel album. Literally the same lyrics on all four (and it would be sold as one album, not four separate ones), but completely reimagined to suite all four genres. I could see her getting her due flowers for doing something like that. Especially given her influence on the "remix" culture she's helped build for years.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 00:33)
Who is Caution about? (105,165) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Ohhh interesting about 8th Grade being about Ben. I have always heard 8th Grade as a song about a predator (however you want to interpret that). It sounds like one of MC's most personal songs to me. it's interesting that 8th Grade and her eternally 12 mantra have a correlation time wise. Her memoir gives a lot to be desired about what really happed to Miss M. at that time in her life. I think more happened than she really shares imo.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 00:26)
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Who is Caution about? (105,164) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Giving Me Life is absolutely my favourite track on Caution, it's possibly one of my favourite Mariah tracks ever. It's the vibe I love when Mariah channels. Silky, smooth, laid back, tells a story, poetic.
(Monday 29 January 2024; 00:23)
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Best concert attendance stats in 25 years (105,163) by Bobby A from United States
Why do I feel MC is the type of artist that has to have a new album out in order to announce a 27 city tour to support it? Just thinking hypothectically that what if her album is completed in late March and she tours the U.S. in April and May before the album drops in late August. Would that fly with Lambs? Or do we want her to stick to her same old formula of dropping the album and tour 6 weeks later? I thought about how JT always switches things up all the time when he is getting ready to drop an album. Who knows maybe JT will drop his new album on April 26th, three days before his world tours kicks off in Vancouver on April 29th. He hasn't made any album release announcement yet. JT has just created buzz for a new album to get his fans ready for his new album. Also, he caused Britney's fans to sabotage his first single, Selfish trajectory on the Hot 100. He sure has angered a lot of other female artist's fans like Britney, Janet, and MC during his solo career, but people still love his music.
(Sunday 28 January 2024; 23:44)
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Back to Mariah (105,162) by Edward from USA
I would definitely be down for a Jazz EP. If she's inspired enough to include songs like Kissing a Fool on it, she could release a whole album.
(Sunday 28 January 2024; 20:17)
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Back to Mariah (105,161) by Bobby A from United States
I would love for MC to release Nevertheless and 4 other jazz standards on iTunes as an EP while we wait for MC16. What does she have to lose? It would get people and the media talking about her music.
(Sunday 28 January 2024; 19:33)
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