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Re: What MC albums have you never bought? (101,438) (101,439) by MusicfanJ from Germany Funny, I haven't bought exactly the same: #1s to Infinity and the Ballads. (Wednesday 12 October 2022; 13:28)

What MC albums have you never bought? (101,438) by Randy from USA I thought about this the other day. I do not have #1s to Infinity, even though I bought the Infinity single. I also never bought The Ballads. Are the liner notes to either worth the purchase? What MC albums have you never bought? (Wednesday 12 October 2022; 01:53)

Re: Eric (101,436) (101,437) by Robert-Anthony from United States Lol. Everybody, said that Robert-Anthony and all of his posts. (Wednesday 12 October 2022; 01:38)

Eric (101,436) by Edward from USA Eric, I hope you're OK. It's weird nobody has posted anything in a couple of days. (Wednesday 12 October 2022; 01:02)

Re: Upcoming projects (101,434) (101,435) by Tevin from USA Robert Anthony, no matter what Mariah releases, I'll be pleased. (Monday 10 October 2022; 03:45)

Re: Upcoming projects (101,433) (101,434) by Robert-Anthony from United States Great post Tevin. I think that she said on Twitter Spaces this past summer that more was to come for the Rarities and MC 30. And don't forget about the Jumpsmokers Remix album. I tweeted MC today about the Rarities 2 to include CB to MIAM. MC would really profit and receive rave reviews if she released songs on projects from when she was vocally in her prime. I just want to hear Reaching For The Sky and a high quality longer version on Skydiving. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 23:45)

Upcoming projects (101,433) by Tevin from USA OK so can someone confirm this for me please. Based off of what Mariah has said, and as long as nothing gets shelved by the record company, we should expect to see these projects over the next year or two: 1. The Butterfly Lounge 2. Someone's Ugly Daughter (Mariahs original vocals and Millie B Brown) 3. A themed album (maybe Jazz, maybe Gospel) 4. Movie on Mariah 5. Soundtrack for the movie on Mariah 6. One normal original album from Mariah (unfortunately this may be her last chance with this project to score a top 10 hit) 7. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there supposed to be a Rarities 2 coming out? I need to hear" I lose control", in her debut vocals So if nothing gets shelved, we should be in for a lot of treats over the next 2 to 3 years. Am I missing anything? And I'm I right about Rarities 2? (Saturday 8 October 2022; 22:37)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,418) (101,432) by Tevin from USA I know everyone is talking about 2 or 3 camps of opinions on what Mariah should do, but my question is, why can't Mariah do both? Trust me, I would love to see Mariah sing live since I've never had the opportunity to attend one of her concerts. But as some have mentioned, more and more it seems like her ever touring again is not going to happen due to her vocal decline and how taxing it is on a vocalist. It would be great if Mariah could create a album that the singles are relatable, lyrically pleasant, and song in an easy simple straight forward way. Maybe 4 songs like that. Then the other 6 to 8 songs she can do the other studio trickery, vocal rest, 10 to 100 piecemeal takes to make them sound amazing. As for performing she sound stick to doing a couple live televised performances and maybe a couple venue performances a year. Hop on tracks like she did with Big Energy Remix, and work on collaborations, like she seems to be doing with the Butterfly Lounge. That way the handful of times she does sing live, she can rest, and properly prepare to sing the 90 to 100 percent live, while sounding good or decent. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 22:29)

Re: Your most surprised MC collaboration (101,423) (101,431) by Terna from Nigeria "Stay the Night" was one of those songs that had a snippet leak if I recall correctly, And that was kinda a demo version, because it sounded unfinished. I loved that demo version even then and eventually when she released the album, the song was there in its full glory and I loved every minute of it. It was an instant favorite of mine, because Mariah was "sanging" again. Lol. It is one of those songs one can say only Mariah can sing and pull it off as its built for the type of voice she has – one that has powerful high belts that pack a punch. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 20:12)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,420) (101,430) by Matthew from USA Hey Robert. I think Mariah is a polished performer, just not the most exciting. So I will listen to a Beyonce album and go, meh. Then I will see her live and be like, ok, now I get it. Whereas with Mariah, I will see her live, and think, well, that was okay. And then I will listen to the album, the lyrics, arrangement, the different tones and vocal moments, and I'm like, this woman is a genius! So I was basically saying that if she is going to make new music, I think she should focus on her strength, which I think is her prowess in the studio. Keep the live performances to a minimum or to pre-recorded things she can control like the Apple special or the YouTube Valentines mix. Focus on the lyrics, those layered background vocals, that crazy fast run. If it sounded a little dry, that's okay, drink some hot tea and do take 45, add some studio wizardry if needed. There's no rush at this point. Some lambs disagree. They don't want what they consider deception in the studio. They want her to sing to her current capabilities so she can produce it live. And even though I might be disappointed at an album with tepid vocals, those lambs also have a valid point. Maybe she should do that. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 18:49)

Re: Just a question (101,428) (101,429) by Robert-Anthony from United States Yep. We will probably never get another tour ever again. MC probably wrote a lot of her songs in a such a high key that constant trying to replicate the same key on a tour ruined her voice. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 18:07)

Just a question (101,428) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway With us all realising that Mariah probably prerecorded most of her vocals at the Global Citizen Festival, how much do you think she prerecorded at the BET Awards earlier this year? I feel that was the moment where I actually felt her voice had improved, but have I been deceived? I really think her vocals was live that night, or has Mariah gotten that much better at lip synching? What do you guys think (Saturday 8 October 2022; 17:32)

Am I the only one (101,427) by Randy from USA Who replaces originals on MCs albums with remixes or other versions? For example, on the debut, I switched out the album version for the video version of Someday. On Butterfly, I replaced Honey with the Bad Boy Remix, Breakdown with the Mo Thugs remix, The Roof with the Mobb Deep extended rap. On MOAIA I've replaced Obsessed with the Gucci Mane version, Up Out My Face with the Nikki Minaj remix and Angels Cry with the Neyo duet. What upsets me with Fantasy is I can't mix the dramatic intro with the whistle into the Bad Boy Mix which has the both hooks and ODB. I don't know how you guys put Everything Fades Away at the end of Music Box. That's blasphemous to me. It doesn't go there lol. I do love that song but Music Box should end on All I've Ever Wanted. How have y'all redone your MC albums. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 17:25)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,421) (101,426) by Libra Lamb from USA I only care about the music too. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 14:36)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,419) (101,425) by Steve from USA Why do you keep referring to Marian? Is that supposed to be a joke or do you keep making the same type repeatedly? (Saturday 8 October 2022; 14:31)

Strain the Night (101,424) by Edward from USA "Stay the Night" was always an annoying track to. It's not really the music, but the fact Marian's voice sounds too strained and whiney to my taste. I always skip it. I prefer "To The Floor" and " Get Your Number". (Saturday 8 October 2022; 14:15)

Re: Your most surprised MC collaboration (101,417) (101,423) by Lady B from USA I'd say this, he's broader than just hiphop for his production credits (for instance, he produced Alicia Key's "U Don't Know My Name", Janet Jackson, John Legend, etc) and it makes sense if you didn't follow the charts either - Kanye has 22 Grammy wins! A lot for being a producer. But back to your original point - I love Stay the Night. One of my favorite tracks and the production is incredible. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 05:49)

Holy Trinity alternative (101,422) by Matty from Vancouver Canada What if the Holy Trinity of vocals were: Mariah, Brandy (known in America as the "vocal Bible") and Aaliyah (the ultimate of modern R&B imo)? I've been deep into my Aaliyah and Brandy vinyls recently, and I acknowledge Mariah could mess with Whitney and Celine (those belts are unmatched). However, what instead we focused on Mariah Brandy and Aaliyah and their honey butter delivery and tone? Voice wise. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 05:05)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,418) (101,421) by jaker20 from US There's a third camp, which is about the music. I am on that camp, maybe I'm the only one on it and I'm ok with it. What that camp says is that she's not just a vocal, the camp that believes Caution is a fantastic album. She's an artist who creates and writes music. It's really what sets her apart from the big voices and the great lyricists because she is both. It's always been about the music for me, live or not. As long as she produces good music like I know she's capable of, she's will always be the queen in my book. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 03:22)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,418) (101,420) by Robert-Anthony from United States So, Matthew what is your opinion as to why MC was never a polished live performer? Do you think Tommy is cause of it because he was afraid MC would become too big too soon? Or was it MC herself whio was afraid that her vocal nodules would cause her to lose her voice after a long demanding tour? The latter is why most Lambs and vocal coaches suspect MC's voice was dramatically different after the Music Box tour. When I listened to MC's most recent WBT perdformance on a CD that I made, I found it be her worst WBT performance ever. I couldn't even compare it to her Mimi's Late Night Valentine's Mix. I would love to know what really happened to MC's voice after E=MC2 someday. It was evident to me that her voice had suffered major damage on Memoirs but she rebounded on MCIIY. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 01:24)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,418) (101,419) by Edward from USA We all want Marian to deliver quality music and decent performances, that's all. Quality as in music with great lyrical content. Decent as in singing in her current range and stop pretending to hide the elephants in the rooms where her performances take place. She might not have control of her voice like she used to, but she could definitely kill it with her pen game. I know it's going to be difficult for her to retire those difficult songs to sing, but unless she arranges them differently, it will be more and more obvious as her voice keeps declining. I don't know what it is that's affecting her, but it is sad to watch. I saw how Barbra Streisand, at 53, gave Celine a run for her money vocally on "Tell Him". I always thought Marian would have similar voice quality too. (Saturday 8 October 2022; 00:51)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,415) (101,418) by Matthew from USA So it seems there are two camps. The first camp cares more about the live performances. They want those to be good. In order for the live performances to be good, they want her to take it easy in the studio and just sing plainly and simply without ornamentation, so that she will have no trouble replicating it live. The second camp cares more about the album than live performances. In order for the album to be good, they want her to do as many takes as is necessary in the studio. They don't care if one day on Jan 17, 2024 at 6:38 PM she sounded terrible on a live performance because that's one performance. The album will be good, and the album is forever. I'm torn. Mariah has never been the most exciting live performer. She is known, however, for being an amazing creative in the studio. I guess if this were Beyonce, I'd be in the first camp, saying do what you need to do in order to give a stunning live performance. But with Mariah, I think I'm in the second camp. Do what you need to do give us vocal moments on the album that are a little more exciting that Caution, if you are still able to. (Friday 7 October 2022; 20:55)

Re: Your most surprised MC collaboration (101,416) (101,417) by Robert-Anthony from United States Not really at all. I wasn't buying too many hip hop CDs and nor watching the charts either. I was introduced to Kanye West in 2004. A co-worker created a CD of The College Dropout for me. I didn't listened to it at all. So, I really never cared much for Kanye at that time and sure didn't know he was a huge hip hop producer. I love his production now. (Friday 7 October 2022; 15:53)

Re: Your most surprised MC collaboration (101,414) (101,416) by Lady B from USA Back then you asked why she collab'd with Kanye. Have you seen his production credits? (Friday 7 October 2022; 15:00)

Re: Just a thought, let's be kind (101,409) (101,415) by Will from England I mean, it's either cover it up, or have a moment that Whitney had during her ill-advised tour that should never have happened, where she tried to sing live and it just wasn't good with audience walk out - you can bet that Mariah was aware of that is using every trick she knows to mask it, and quite rightly so. Caution was a good step in the right direction where she doesn't use over the top runs that she can't replicate live, isn't using belts etc. and focuses on the strengths her current voice has such as her lower register and straight forward middle of the road vocals, and produced stellar results. When she slows down, has time to breath and doesn't have to do rapid vocal runs, her voice is good in a different way to what it was. (Thursday 6 October 2022; 20:15)

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