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AIWFCIY #1 this year? (99,225) by SM from Citizen of the World
Does anyone know if the song will reclaim the #1 spot again this year? I can’t find any info.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 23:59)
Supporting Mariah unconditionally (99,224) by Libra Lamb from USA
Mariah has always said that she's always been grateful to her fans, supporting her through the good and the bad. She's even gone as far as referring to her fan base as an extension of her family. Therefore I will never come here or on any place on the internet to criticize her and make assumptions or statements that will make her feel any type of way other than appreciated. I am a firm believer that putting bad energy out there will eventually come back to bite us in the behind. And we all know that the people closest to you can hurt you the most. Even though she doesn't know me personally, I know that she appreciates us loyal fans. That's why you won't see me post anything negative or disrespectful about her. Like I've said before, she's as human as you and I and is subject to the same feelings that we are. If you truly want the best from someone, you have to put out good energy out there towards them. I'm not blind to her choices or mistakes, she's not superhuman and she's no longer 20 years old. It takes less effort to be kind than to be mean or "right" about whatever point you're trying to make. Sometimes you just gotta know when to move on.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 23:16)
Re: Cancelled - Mixin With Mimi (99,216) (99,223) by Jamie from UK
Ah ok I’m not on twitter.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 21:53)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,203) (99,222) by Nikki from usa
I have to ask, do you think Justin Bieber should go on Barbra Walters and cry that he can't hit high notes like he did as a kid? People's voices change with time. It's a natural part of aging. In opera, there are singing parts for children up to people in their 60's. A singer can sing their whole life in the opera, but they will be singing different parts throughout their life to match their vocal abilities. The most important part is to constantly develop more vocal skills. Mariah has more skills now than she did when she was in her "prime" as you all like to say. Most of you don't understand vocals. You determine what's "good" based off power and how well you like the tone. As a singer, Mariah wouldn't. In fact, she looks back at her performances and often cringes because she didn't like the way she sang it. I do understand you are a 90's fan, but it's a shame you're mourning her voice as if she can't sing anymore if she's not 26.

I come at this from a different angle. I'm interested in the biology of vocal chords and Mariah Carey's are interesting. Mariah's a rare acuto sfogato soprano. Typically, these singers careers only last 10 years. Constantly singing in the extremes of the vocal chords causes rapid wear and tear. So does singing with a lot of air as whistling does or having nodes. The "super human agility" is a biological factor of thin vocal chords with a lot elasticity. That elasticity begins to wane after a woman hits her early 30's and her voice will drop. Which is why acuto sfogato sopranos will either retire or choose a new vocal style part to fit their vocal abilities.

All vocalists experience this in their early 30's, but it shows up in different ways depending on vocal type. You'll usually notice a lot of singers singing staccato of stop and go rather than holding a note. Proper vocals are harder to maintain as you age. Bad vocal technique can be killer. Look at Adele. She was young when she came out, yet after a couple of albums she needed vocal surgery. That puts new perspective on how strict Mariah was in her regimen to sing as she does and put out that much product over that many years before getting raspy.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 19:49)
Re: Change (99,195) (99,221) by Terna from Nigeria
Yeah exactly what I am talking about. She's been having problems as far back as '94 which you can hear when you play those vocal stems, say "O Holy Night" after the whistle tone, there's a scratching effect going on there.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 18:20)
Article: Mariah Carey renounces "queen of Christmas" title (99,220) by Geronimo from USA
We will credit Mariah Carey's act of venerating the Holy Virgin as penance for the sin of endorsing McDonald's. Go now in peace and sin no more.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 17:30)
Re: Smoke and mirrors (99,215) (99,219) by Nikki from usa
I think you're doing a lot of projecting. Mariah's been touring like crazy for the past decade. With and without criticisms about the state of her voice. It didn't stop her. So, to say that's the reason she's not touring makes little sense. Anyone who's been a fan of Carey for any length of time knows what a germ phobe she is, which is far more likely the reason. She's also from New York which has one the strictest lockdowns as we speak. If you think she has a problem making money than you clearly didn't notice how much those Apple specials have been raking in worldwide. She will eventually have to tour again, because she's under contract with Live Nation. The only way out of that is if she buys out her contract.

All live footage done by everybody is done multiple times with the best scenes chosen. That's how movies, music videos, and live clips have always been done. It's not a special conspiracy for Mariah, she's always done things this way since the beginning.

You're also making the assumption that her views on her vocals are the same as yours. Mariah's fans are the only ones who expect her voice not to age.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 17:06)
Re: Interesting thought (99,214) (99,218) by Nikki from usa
You are aware it's a male dominated business, right? Can you even name an artist who primarily works with females?
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 16:45)
Re: Smoke and mirrors (99,215) (99,217) by T from USA
Mariah has gained a ton of weight, she's once again not sleeping and then shows up on national tv insecure about her looks. This is crazy. She is so beautiful and could come back looking like a million dollars if she wants. Her voice is gone. She will use the covid tour excuse as her reason to not tour, and I for one agree with her on it. Preserve what little she has left and don't strain it. It was all the touring that did this to her in the first place. And the unhealthy lifestyle. Before every album era she says her voice is in great shape and like lambs being led to slaughter we buy it. She will keep playing this game with us, although my suspicion is that if it turns out to not be true than the fans will not be happy because there is nothing else to hang hope on except the vocal surgeon.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 16:01)
Re: Cancelled - Mixin With Mimi (99,213) (99,216) by Robert-Anthony from United States
You give your phone number when you sign up for the event. The link is on her Twitter account.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 14:43)
Smoke and mirrors (99,215) by TheWind from England
I don't fully buy the message being sent out by Mariah that her voice has been restored over lockdown, as well as her reasoning for not wanting to tour again. I think that over lockdown she posted some well edited, and carefully doctored performances that were very well received by fans and the public. Her voice hasn't received that much praise in a long time. She now knows that the studio environment is the only place where her voice can shine like that in its current state, and I suspect her insecurities are getting the better of her. Hence, the focus on the Butterfly Lounge idea, where she highlights her songwriting process and can show her voice off in a setting that she is completely in control of. Whilst I think it is a great idea, I don't think it will bring in the money she needs to fulfil her lifestyle, so don't be surprised if she tours again in a year or two. The Butterfly Lounge would work best when accompanying an album that displays Mariah's maturer writing side, followed by a tour. On a slightly different note, I haven't been impressed with her output this Christmas. It seems a little lacklustre to me. Her appearance with James Corden was embarrassing for a star of her caliber. She was drunk, the weird hand movements covering her face shows she is at a place where she is being ruled by her insecurities. I do hope she starts to give less smurfs about what people think, and embraces how amazing she is.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 13:48)
Re: Interesting thought (99,211) (99,214) by Bill from the UK
The same can be said for her songwriting partners. Women have only cropped up here and there but usually it's men that she collaborates with.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 12:53)
Re: Cancelled - Mixin With Mimi (99,210) (99,213) by Jamie from UK
How do I get these texts?
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 09:22)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,208) (99,212) by Lady B from USA
Libra's post is one of the best in years. Spot on.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 08:09)
Interesting thought (99,211) by Robert-Anthony from United States
MC has never had a woman co-produce a song with her on one of her albums. She has always worked with men. I wonder why that is so. I would love to see her co-produce with Angela Winbush, Nova Wav, Linda Perry, and Victoria Monet.
(Sunday 19 December 2021; 01:59)
Cancelled - Mixin With Mimi (99,210) by Robert-Anthony from United States
I just received a text, probably like many of you, that Mixin with Mimi has been cancelled. I didn't think that she was going to have other people in the lounge with her. I thought it was all virtual. Hopefully, it will happen in the spring.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 22:29)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,204) (99,209) by RibbonB from USA
Well hallelujah people understand, because a while ago people were mad that she didn't "explain" in her memoir.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 17:59)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,204) (99,208) by Libra Lamb from USA
At this point in her career, Mariah owes no one anything, not even another studio album. She continues to make music because that's what makes her and some of us happy. I don't care about the voice, I don't care about the splashes or anything in regards to her personal life. She's a human being just like the rest of us and she's entitled to make her own choices and even her own mistakes. I'd say, if anyone can't accept that, it's time to move on. There's plenty of other "acts" out there that can use one more "fan" to tear them down. I hear that Adele chick is pretty good.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 16:54)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,204) (99,207) by Robert-Anthony from United States
So true. Maybe next year is not the right time for MC to release MC16. She has worked hard for 30 years. I am here to support her for whatever she releases for the Butterfly Lounge, Butterfly's 25th anniversary, and MC30. Who knows we may even get a soundtrack for TMOMC series with a few new songs.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 15:20)
Release the color version of music video (99,206) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
Mariah and her team needs to release the color version of the alternative 60's music video of All I Want For Christmas Is You. I just seen the interview of Mariah on the set of that music video on Ukmix and Mariah looks so radiant and beautiful with the red short dress and the bangs.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 14:48)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,204) (99,205) by Jamie from UK
Yeah it must be pretty strange to have it taken away from you. She must hate it.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 11:20)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,203) (99,204) by Shezz from Pk
Exactly. It is what it is. We know it. She knows it. Let her do what makes her happy and not tear her down everyday or demand that she humiliate herself on a national tv tell all. I admire her hustle and resilience and drive to still make music with whatever else she chooses to do along with it - double beef patties, sesame buns and all.
(Saturday 18 December 2021; 05:49)
Mariah's voice (99,203) by Randy from USA
I loved her voice during Daydream. The elasticity of moving in and out that falsetto. And she still had her higher full voice register. Yes it was thin but it gave me life. I was the hardest on MC before she couldn't fool even her "real fans" any longer. But one day Special K said to me, in the middle of my attacks, what would you have her do? I said tell the truth. Say something happened with my voice in a tearful interview with Barbara Walters. But stop lip syncing the high full voice notes during live performances when you sound awful during the verses. I have reconsidered that over the years. Could you imagine how hard it is to be her? And in this age of keyboard gangstas whose sole purpose is to make you feel as low as them. The narrative among many non-fans is she lost her voice. Why confirm it and have nobody come see her or buy her albums? I kinda get the smoke and mirrors now. And since we've lost Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson and Prince, do I really wanna press on Mariah Carey already knowing she likes food and splashes. She's making it the best way she knows how. And for that she is to be celebrated.
(Friday 17 December 2021; 23:12)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,199) (99,202) by Sasha from Nomansland
Of course these are only shorcuts. Her life and struggles are far more complex than our understanding. Anyway I'll always admire her faith in life and her resilience.
(Friday 17 December 2021; 22:35)
Re: Mariah's voice (99,200) (99,201) by Sasha from Nomansland
I'm actually sad for her, she deserves so much more. "Looking in" tells it all.
(Friday 17 December 2021; 21:59)

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