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Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,517) (97,524) by enwar00 from usa
Wow. And I love that she opened MIAMTEC with Cry. In fact I couldn't come up with a top 5 but have been meaning to post how that one sticks out for me the most, and in a good way. I still to this day love the sequencing on MIAMTEC, at least the first handful of tracks, how it opens with Cry. and ever so slowly builds up to Thirsty. Love those first 5 songs, they just flow for me. Forget Migrate, how about #Justice for Faded, another should've been a single.
(Monday 1 March 2021; 06:21)
Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,510) (97,523) by Lainsky from Philippines
1. Emotions
2. Fantasy
3. Honey
4. Heartbreaker
5. It's Like That
(Monday 1 March 2021; 03:48)
Grammy's: Mimi edition (97,522) by JC from USA
Since Mariah's albums are all quite unique from one another, it's hard to simply rank. But I thought it'd be fun to pick some Grammy categories and list the tracks we think would be nominated/win if they went up against themselves.

I'd love to see what you guys put in these categories (or other categories), including album cuts.

Record of the year:
Fantasy (winner)
We Belong Together
Dreamlover
Emotions

Song of the year:
Vision of Love (winner)
We Belong Together
One Sweet Day
Hero

Best r&b album:
Emancipation of Mimi (winner)
Caution
E=MC2
Me. I am Mariah

Pop album of the year:
Mariah Carey
Music Box (winner)
Daydream
Emotions

Album of the year:
Mariah Carey
Music Box
Emancipation of Mimi (winner)
Daydream

Best collaboration:
Fantasy feat. ODB (winner)
One Sweet Day feat. Boy II Men
Endless Love feat. Luther Vandross
Breakdown feat. Bone Thugz
(Monday 1 March 2021; 02:52)
Re: Languishing (97,519) (97,521) by T from USA
I would think Languishing was about Pat if she did not have her on the Christmas album and performed with her many times after singing Languishing. She was even with her on Idol in 2013, and Beacon 2014. However maybe Mariah was trying her best even though all those feelings were present and true. For me it seems like Mariah always needs a story. The enemy was Tommy for almost two decades and now that it's not as interesting the story seems to be that her family is the enemy. Could very well be true, if it is then it's really sad. The two common themes in all the stories are race and control. I do believe Mariah felt less than, and then under a incredible amount of control, but now she can't possibly still feel less than or controlled can she? Time to make peace with it all.
(Monday 1 March 2021; 02:00)
Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,517) (97,520) by Robert-Anthony from United States
Remember how IWTWLI ended Memoirs and it showed how MC was so happy to have found Nick. Cry opens MIAM to show how she felt after losing Nick.
(Monday 1 March 2021; 00:12)
Languishing (97,519) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
So I've been watching a lot of Mariah on YouTube lately. Random things, hopping eras through performances, reviews, documentaries, reaction videos and so on. I'm doing this to basically remind myself of Mariah again, to remind myself why I do love her music and voice - not because I fell out of love, but because she changed and I changed and life has changed. It's very nostalgic, enlightening, frustrating, and moving at the same time.

I just watched Mariah and her mother on Oprah in 1999. It's very strange looking back at it knowing what happened (allegedly) soon after and where they are now. It's very sad actually. Sadder still, when Pat talks about having to try to find a mixed neighbourhood and that Black kids and the white kids picking on them, Mariah looks like a frightened little girl at the memory. There's no polish, no acting, no spin. I never really noticed it before. I was always concentrating on Pat.

But hearing Pat talk about race, it's confusing. She is openly anti-racist. Did she really play the poor white woman to the cops two years later, using her children's race against them? Its very confusing.

I actually do hope they reunite. Life is too short for grudges where family is concerned. People change. You change, they change and the world changes. Maybe there is never an absolution, but a positive resolution, in any way, is always a good pursuit. Listening to Languishing, I do think it's about Pat now. I didn't before. They lyrics suggest deep, ancient wounds and a questioning of whether the person who caused those wounds still has feeling.

I hope they reconcile.
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 23:11)
Anytime You Need A Friend / I'll Be There (97,518) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Tokyo Dome is always heralded as the best performance ever of AYNAF. But Proctors Theatre was my ultimate watch when I was a kid. I watched it every single day before school. I can move around exactly how she moves I know it that well. It is the superior performance but never talked about. Anyone else have an opinion? Whilst I am at it: I'll Be There at Police Athletic League is the superior version of the Sony. Much better than MTV Unplugged. For one: she gets the second verse right.
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 22:26)
Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,515) (97,517) by Joe from United Kingdom
It's good to see nobody includes "Cry" from MIAM. I have still never come to terms with that being by the opening song. I think the sequencing on that whole album was totally off.
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 22:06)
Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,510) (97,516) by TJ from Norway
Vision of Love
Fantasy
Dreamlover
It's Like That
Honey

(Sunday 28 February 2021; 19:57)
Top 5 best album openers (97,515) by T from USA
5. Dreamlover
4. It's Like That
3. Emotions
2. Fantasy
1. Vision Of Love
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 18:44)
My 10 essential Mariah house remixes (97,514) by BFF from United States
1. Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise) (Def B Fly Mix)
2. Always Be My Baby (Always Club Mix)
3. Fantasy (The Boss Remix)
4. Anytime You Need a Friend (Boriqua Tribe Mix)
5. Honey (Def Rascal Anthem)
6. The Roof (Morales Funky Club Mix)
7. Butterfly (Meme Club Mix)
8. I Still Believe (Morales Classic Mix)
9. Say Somethin' (Stereo Experience)
10. Do You Know Where You're Going To? (Mariah Bonita Club)
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 16:38)
Top 5 best album openers (97,513) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
5. Fantasy
4. Migrate
3. Heartbreaker
2. It’s like that
1. GTFO
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 03:22)
Re: Top 5 best album openers (97,510) (97,512) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
1) It's Like That
2) Heartbreaker
3) Fantasy
4) Betcha Gon' Know
5) Migrate
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 02:51)
Re: Cover (97,508) (97,511) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I love the whistles. It's everywhere true, but when you hear the words "whistle register", it's almost always followed by "Mariah Carey". When people say "Mariah" they follow it up by the whole "finger on ear phone, other hand in the air simulating musical note" move that Mariah does right before she lets out a whistle. It's her signature, and an artist always keeps their signature. She's very creative with her whistles, the way she uses it to sing words, express emotions, use it as a background layering, heck even have a whole interlude of just whistles. She's done it all. I love it. I'll be honest, I don't have a lot of ideas about the vocal analysis aspect, I see a lot of fans dissect how her voice changed and what went wrong. As a layman in this aspect of things, I only understand what sounds good to me and one of the first things that mesmerized me when it came to MC was not only her beautiful raspy honey coated voice but her whistle. I've never heard anyone else do it before and as a kid I was awestruck. So her whistles are always special to me.
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 02:46)
Top 5 best album openers (97,510) by Robert-Anthony from United States
1. Betcha Gon' Know
2. Migrate
3. Fantasy
4. Emotions
5. It's Like That
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 00:32)
Re: Album rankings (97,503) (97,509) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Brandon, honestly? If you were stranded on a desert island and you only had time to save three Mariah CD's from the burning plane, Caution would be one of them?
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 00:20)
Re: Cover (97,507) (97,508) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I, in some way, agree with you. And, for what it's worth, I do value your viewpoint, somewhat. I chose Someone Like You as an example not because I think Mariah should *copy* someone else but that I firmly believe she could write something as moving as that song and perform it well. Adele singing SLY (and changing the chorus to an easy singing range) whilst crying through it at The Brit Awards at the O2 was the catalyst to superstardom (as opposed to just stardom). Watching it live was breathtaking and emotional even though the song had a range of about five notes. Mariah can easily do that.

I disagree with your post about interpolating samples, however. I know Mariah is incredibly clever the way she works music. She is in the realms of genius - and I say that as someone who is not a fan of hyperbole. But we know that she's clever. I think sometimes she's *too clever* and the purpose or sentiment gets lost.

She still *sounds* like Mariah Carey. The voice is scratched but in her normal speaking range, you know it's her. I may be wrong (only joking) but her head voice seems be be easier to transition to and from. So there's something to work with. If she keeps it simple and moves people she might have a surprise hit album on her hands. With a new look (and I do think she should get the hot body back) her next era could be an amazing final hurrah. I'm rooting for her. But if it's more of the same, I guess I'll be a legacy lamb and be done with it.

Oh. And no more whistle notes. They used to be rare and like an adrenaline shot. Am I the only one that feels like they're everywhere? The whistle not has a place in Close My Eyes where it has no business being.
(Sunday 28 February 2021; 00:18)
Re: Cover (97,506) (97,507) by Edward from USA
I think Mariah should go back to basics by writing her own lyrics, and collaborating with a real musician, like a pianist or something. She should keep it simple production wise too. Even though Caution is not my favorite album of hers, it is definitely an album I've enjoyed a lot. I still think she's a musical genius. Interpolating the recoding from "Trading Places" into "Giving Me Life" was very creative and different. It's good she realized the album was kind of short, hopefully we'll get a 14 track album next time, a fun album.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 22:29)
Re: Cover (97,504) (97,506) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Mariah could do something along the lines of Someone Like You by Adele. But an original. These vocal histrionics, jumping an octave and screeching is not needed anymore. Nobody is asking her for that. I was listening to Avicii this afternoon. Wake Me Up is energetic and moving and is sung within a five note range almost.You don't need six octaves to make an impact anymore. Even Ariana seems to realise that. But I am fully convinced Mariah won't move from her tired formula. I swear to any god anyone believes in that if she says she is in a recording studio with JD again, I'm off. And I think a lot of other lambs will be fighting me for the exit.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 20:09)
My rankings of Mariah albums (97,505) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
A strong majority of us will have a Sony Walkman story as we have been fans since forever. For me I remember playing Music Box in my Walkman nonstop.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 17:08)
Re: Cover (97,497) (97,504) by Edward from USA
"I Wanna Know What Love Is" was a decent cover, but after how she destroyed "One More Try" and considering the state of her current voice, I would rather she doesn't mess with the classics. Only if she's going to stich it all together perfectly in the studio.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 16:16)
Re: Album rankings (97,484) (97,503) by B from USA
1. Bufferfly
2. Daydream
3. Caution
4. TEOM
5. Merry Christmas
6. Emotions
7. E=MC2
8. MIAM
9. Rainbow
10. Glitter
11. Charmbracelet
12. Music Box
13. Memoirs
14. MCIIY
15. #1's
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 15:25)
Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,493) (97,502) by B from USA
I had one as well and the first album I ever bought was Daydream.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 15:20)
Re: Cover (97,497) (97,501) by B from USA
I would love for her to give us an official cover of You and I or any other Stevie Wonder song.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 15:19)
Re: Cover (97,497) (97,500) by TJ from Norway
There are so many songs:
Halleluja (Leonard Cohen)
Eternal Flame (The Bangles)
Don't Make Me Over (Dionne Warwick)
Unchained Melody (The Righteous Brothers)
And the list would go on if I just don't say stop.
(Saturday 27 February 2021; 15:03)

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