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About RJJ12 from USA:
A fan since 1990. Favorite Mariah quotes, "It doesn't matter how I look, if I'm singin..." & "I can't even know what to say." I love R&B and Hip Hop, but I listen to any genre of music as long as the song is great. Love saaaanger/songwriters. I'm not a "yes" fan but I do give credit when its due.
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No new album in 2024 (105,855)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I hope she continues to take her time. She said she was rushed into releasing Caution and she didn't get to craft that album exactly how she wanted to. I hope we get an upbeat r&b/doo wop song from her like Dreamlover and It's a Wrap when she dies come back out. I miss those types of lead singles. I'm glad she is jumping on remixes as this gives her added exposure to a younger audience without any risk. Hopefully artists of the moment will want to duet or ask for a feature. If one so happens to become successful, she can follow it up with her own lead single.
(Sunday 3 March 2024; 20:29)
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No new album in 2024 (105,853)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Who are your sources? I'm just curious where you're getting this info from. I'm hoping the next album doesn't come out until it's properly curated. And I'm glad MC is not on the new Cardi a song, it's ratchet and extra dirty, and that's coming from someone who is not a prude. We just want some new quality music, is that too much too ask for? Evidently it is.
(Sunday 3 March 2024; 18:50)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,715)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Mimi L, they should have hired you as head of the promo team. I like your ideas.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:27)
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Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,686)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Honestly I was thinking the same. In both instances they were together and could have easily done a longer video or at least have a little chat talking about the collaboration and what it means to them. Ariana could have talked about how the collaboration came to be, why they decided on this song. Mariah could have talked about her love for remixes and why she decided to join Ariana on a song that casual listeners wouldn't associate with her usual music. They could have also done small videos of just them playing fun games to promote the video like "who knows who better" or pop culture quizzes (both of them are big pop culture experts). Then they could have released these videos every other day to keep engagement. It's honestly a shame. Mariah posted a small video yesterday promoting singing the chorus. But I'm shocked that Ariana's team dropped the song like it's hot. Like after the first day there was a single mention of the release not even a story. I know she's trying to sell an album but why not simultaneously put spotlight on this song to keep the engagement ?
(Friday 23 February 2024; 15:38)
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Time of release UK (105,543)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Stacey great minds think alike. I've been listening to MB30 since its release. Mostly to Dreamlover, AILF Extended, Workin Hard Remix, IBTAY Remix. Ifs it's late I listen to My Prayer, Do You Think of Me and all the moody tracks on the second CD and sometimes let the live concert just play. She has been giving us new stuff each year. I'll take some quality unreleased tracks any day from her while we wait for a new album.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:07)
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Time of release UK (105,460)
by Stacey from USA
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As always when new MC music is released, I am hopeful. In the meantime I am loving Music Box all over again. My first song heard was Hero. First album bought was MB. I got the 3CD set in the mail a few days ago. I love what MC wrote about the album. It was released during troublesome times in her personal life. But she also recognizes the album is an important part of her career development, an important part of her life, even if it was during the Tommy years.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 04:42)
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Yes and, my thoughts (105,459)
by RJJ12 from USA
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If I could thumbs up this post 50 times I would. Keep posting Tevin.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 03:16)
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Yes and, my thoughts (105,450)
by Tevin from USA
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Ok, so like many of you have said on here, when I heard that there will be a new Mariah song released, I was ecstatic, but I also felt a bit conflicted, because I don't like the song Yes, And. I thought about it for a while and now I'm actually happy Mariah is doing this and here's why.
1. She is stepping outside of her comfort zone, like we have been begging for her to do for years (yes this may be a dance or club track like she's done in the past, but let's be honest, she hasn't done it in a long time).
2. She's collaborating with a female singer (one who can do crazy runs, high belts and even whistle, though not up to Mariah's level). Once again we have been asking her to do this.
3. Homewrecker or not, Ariana is still very popular and her music still sells. Once again we have been asking Mariah to work with a popular artist and no has been or up and coming artist.
4. We are finally able to see Mariah (after a very long time), work her magic with redoing a remix. Now if it's just added vocals, then I'll be happy but also disappointed, but by the sound of it, is that this will be a completely reworked song.
5. This introduces Mariah to a younger crowd outside of December. Once again we have been asking her to do this.
I can go on, but the point is this, we haven't heard this remix yet, so how can we judge it before we hear it? Though I don't agree with Ariana's actions, we shouldn't criticize a remix we haven't heard yet (the "d" I ride part may not even be in the remix), also let's not be hypocrites, a very young Mariah was also in a similar situation in the past depending on how you look at things (with Tommy being married when he met Mariah). I'm not judging nor pointing fingers and honestly I don't care about what other people do, I'm just trying to make a point.
I think Mariah's team is doing a good job. Get the public on your side, blow up on social media, show up to the Grammy's to appease the music academy (or whatever you call it). Start collaborating with young and established artist. Then drop your own fresh new song and possible album (I hope this last one comes true). I think with the success of Big E last year, it showed that Mariah may not be reigning in the charts nowadays, but her name does pull weight and people will tune in to listen if they can connect to the music.
Ok rant over.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 21:24)
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Independent route? (105,239)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Hi RA. I heard his new single but it was meh. Without a strong single his album is going to flop. Hoping Mariah has some uptempo bangers. I need two uptempos back to back. After the success of Hiss, Meg The Stallion has a distribution deal with universal where she gets to keep 100 of her masters and publishing and is still independent. I would love something like this for MC.
(Sunday 4 February 2024; 00:54)
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Independent route? (105,223)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Usher timed his album release around his Superbowl performance. He released his promo single, GLU in early 2023. Then he dropped the official first single, Good Good last summer. This strategy worked for promoting his new album Coming Home. MC needs something similar like headlining a huge outdoor summer concert event along with a summer promo single to garner radio airplay this summer. MC is going to need a radio and Spotify plan to be reintroduce to radio programmers.
(Friday 2 February 2024; 18:59)
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Independent route? (105,208)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Usher has a new album coming out and is performing at the Super Bowl this year and using the promo of the performance to launch his new project. This will be his first project as an independent artist. I'm wondering if Mariah is contemplating doing the same thing and really taking her time to have several projects ready to go. The only issue is that major radio formats don't always play veteran artists past the age of 5. We will never really know if Caution would have been a hit as Epic only sent her singles to Adult AC and Urban AC radio formats instead of top 40 stations. Those small niche markets are where singles go to die a slow death without any hope of climbing. As an independent artist she can decide the singles and what radio formats she would send them to. Would a top 40 station play a new Mariah song? Maybe if it's uptempo but no present day Mariah ballad or mid tempo will get the time of day with major radio formats. Maybe her team can cut a deal with these stations in exchange for Christmas concert giveaways since her Christmas tours keep getting bigger and bigger. There has to be a way they can leverage her Christmas relevancy and dominance to help launch a new record and get it to chart well. Even at her commercial peak Mariah always got polarizing opinions, but it seems that present day Mariah is getting more love and acceptance than ever before.
(Friday 2 February 2024; 04:32)
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Best Love Takes Time performance (104,615)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I disagree. Even with the lack of resonant belts and some imperfections, she really went there vocally and took some risks. She started to dive into the other parts of her voice to sing the song. I love all the passion she poured into this performance. One of my favorites. Shakiness and all. Here is the full Love Takes Time performance that night.
(Friday 22 December 2023; 15:12)
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Best Love Takes Time performance (104,614)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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The NARM Performance is shaky. She's super nervous, trying to add more notes and runs than the studio recording. If any of the NARM footage was great, it would have been used in her "The First Vision" VHS. I don't mind its been locked away but of course appreciate it 33 years later.
(Friday 22 December 2023; 14:34)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,579)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Same. Daydream will always be GOAT to me. I wonder if she found the "Ecstasy" song she made with Jermaine that she was looking for during Rarities. She claimed in an interview she couldn't find it. I'm hoping it's been discovered and is. Daydream session song. She said it sampled a particular song but didn't want to give away the idea.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 07:03)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,570)
by Stacey from USA
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I get a little giddy thinking about what MC may pull out of the vault for my beloved Daydream's 30th anniversary.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 00:40)
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All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,494)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Here is a video that points out the differences between the two versions. My theory is she found the Rarities version first and put that on Rarities. She found the extended version later and put that on MB30. A second theory is she found both but put the simpler version on Rarities and saved the extended for MB30 so she she had more to give us and help make the repurchase of an old album worth it. Not sure why some fans are complaining on why we got both and should have just got the extended. Honey was said to have 100 different vocal takes Puffy had to chose from. I wouldn't mind getting different Honey vocal takes on B30. I like both versions for different reasons. I prefer the verses from Rarities as she sings them much simpler and sticks to the melody more but I like the climax on the extended better. My version would be a blend of both. Th Rarities verses and the ending vocal climax of the extended.
(Friday 15 September 2023; 02:01)
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All I Live For (103,485)
by Andrew from the UK
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I am convinced it's different recording takes mixed differently to make two different songs. Note All I Live For is "Extended Version" and AYNAF is "Extended Mix". I think Mariah created two different songs from sessions where no song was ever finalised.
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:56)
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,341)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Here is a second snippet that sounds a or better. This sounds really good.
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 17:14)
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,323)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Since it's so close to the release date, here is a snippet DJ Terry Hunter played in July at a Chicago House Music Festival in July.
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:15)
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Disc two (103,340)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Mariah said in an interview that she used everything she was working on for Butterfly. She stated there were no unreleased tracks from that era.
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 17:09)
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Disc two (103,338)
by Will from England
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She could well be waiting for the 30th anniversary to go all out, if there is anything to release. I think her friend on Twitter Liron mentioned that there weren't many/any unreleased or unfinished songs from Butterfly which is why there weren't any songs on Rarities from that era (though I personally doubt it).
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 13:20)
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,333)
by RJJ12 from USA
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What's your opinion based on what you heard?
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 03:35)
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,328)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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It definitely sounds like the original is a Civilles and Cole production. She has been working in that vault all summer.
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 01:14)
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,323)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Since it's so close to the release date, here is a snippet DJ Terry Hunter played in July at a Chicago House Music Festival in July.
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:15)
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It's a wrap for you baby challenge TikTok (102,077)
by RJJ12 from USA
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While you all argue over the definition of primary, joint, sole custody, 6 baby mamas, nonsense and drama, [It's a wrap] is going viral on [TikTok]. Kinds [sic] have discovered the song and made a dance to it. Someone mortified Mariah on Twitter and she even has her own [TikTok] up. What do you all think, a nice bump in streams or a possible top 10 hit a la Steve's [Lacy bad habits viral]?
(Monday 16 January 2023; 01:16)
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Re: Honey/Heartbreaker mashup (101,378) (101,383)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I love the mash up too Stacy. It's brilliant. I also like how she incorporated Big Energy. Her set list is more youthful and upbeat. I like the new WBT version. I'm also not caring about pre records and shaky vocals. I will say I like the new ones in her current voice. I will say that her current live midrange sounded very Rainbowish in her tone. She sounds better live than in some of her recent recordings where she sounds like a chipmunk on the high parts. Bring on the projects.
(Saturday 1 October 2022; 18:46)
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Re: Global Citizen (101,300) (101,308)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Here is a clip of her rehearsal. Spoiler alert as she did some interesting changes/mash up. Her voice sounds pretty good for as much as Mariah in 2022 can muster. Interested in watching the performance now.
(Saturday 24 September 2022; 04:16)
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Re: I Stay In Love (101,298) (101,304)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I love this song. It's my favorite from the album and should have been the second single instead the trite Bye Bye. Bye Bye hit #20 solely based on the success of TMB. Had she released I Stay In Love as the second single while she was still doing promotion before she disappeared after her wedding it would have went number #1. I know people on this board hate it and call it a WBT clone, but every non lamb I play it for loves it and asks what album it's from and why she didn't release it. The label halfheartedly threw it out there during the fall with one performance and no radio adds or budget. Such a shame. That album was full of radio friendly songs that went to waste.
(Friday 23 September 2022; 20:17)
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Rolling Stone Butterfly interview (101,279)
by RJJ12 from USA
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The Rolling Stone Butterfly interview was really good. I loved how she dived into the creation of the songs and how the interviewer noticed that it was Mariah who would lead Walter into a more R&B/Gospel/Soul leaning sound than his work with other artists, like a Celine Dion. I appreciate that even though he has publicly spoken poorly of her, she still speaks highly of him and gives him his flowers. Per this interview we can confirm that Walter was the second producer during the butter knife incident. I liked the bonus story at the end about her experience with weed brownies and how she almost thought she made a mistake with her then experimental approach to Breakdown. Here is the link for those that want to hear it.
(Wednesday 21 September 2022; 02:41)
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Re: The 8 "new" tracks (101,219) (101,238)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I only cared for The Roof feat Brandy and 4th of July Acapella. I never recalled cared for 4th of July, but I heard the isolated vocals and loved all the hidden layers and vocals. It’s better without the music. The other tracks are filler. Wished she would have put more into this anniversary and tacked on Head Over Heels and Last Chance with her vocals. That would have made the purchase worth it. Not purchasing but have streamed. For the nostalgia - lol.
(Saturday 17 September 2022; 01:48)
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New projects (101,237)
by RJJ12 from USA
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Interesting interview. So she still has multiple projects in the works. The Butterfly Lounge is still coming but not finished. A soundtrack that will go with her visual adaptation to her book. Here I thought she abandoned everything. Looks like she is still not done.
(Saturday 17 September 2022; 01:44)
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Re: New music (101,106) (101,109)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I think she's pregnant. Maybe I'm wrong. In the last pics I saw of her, every single one she is using something to cover her stomach. In one pic you can see Tanaka hand her a fan. It would make sense since everything stopped all of a sudden. All these hints to something coming in late March/April and then radio silence. If she is, congrats to her, if not, hopefully we will get some new music next year, because it doesn't seem like anything other than Christmas merch is coming our way this year.
(Wednesday 31 August 2022; 04:07)
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Re: Mariah and Luis duet (101,018) (101,021)
by RJJ12 from USA
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I agree Bill that the song may have been After Tonight. David Foster produced that one and Diane Warren helped co-write it. I would have loved to be a fly in the wall to see Luis Miguel confronted David Foster about the auto tune and flat out cancel the duet. I also think they when that idea fizzled out it was the same song Mariah asked Toni to duet on Rainbow and Toni ending up having to turn her down as it was during her label issues with Arista.
(Tuesday 23 August 2022; 04:27)
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Re: Mariah and Luis duet (101,015) (101,017)
by RJJ12 from USA
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The Whitney/Enrique duet was really good. Such a romantic song. It fit both of their voices. From Luis Miguel's TV series on his life, he was having vocal issues when recording the duet. The song didn't really seem suitable for his voice (per the show he was also drinking during the session which is death to the chords). Mariah told him he sounded flat, which sent him into a tailspin. Mariah and David Foster were talking in the booth, it's assumed they discussed using auto tune to "fix" the flaws. When Luis heard the final product he noticed and laid into David Foster (who is a very arrogant producer). Years later Luis released the duet and replaced Mariah with Celine. The shade. Here is a clip from the show.
(Monday 22 August 2022; 20:44)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey's Atlanta home burglarized (100,980) (100,982)
by RJJ12 from USA
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A lot of celebrities in Atlanta have been robbed lately. I wish her team would have noticed a trend and tightened up security. Might be an inside job. Glad they weren't there when it happened. I hope nothing irreplaceable was taken. I'd feel bad if they took her plaques or awards.
(Monday 15 August 2022; 18:15)
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Re: Is something going on? (100,917) (100,936)
by RJJ12 from USA
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She fluctuates in weight rapidly. In April right before the Masterclass she seemed to be in great shape sitting in the pool in that skin tight red dress. She hinted towards a project coming out at the end of April (possibly the Butterfly Room). I think something happened that put a stop to her releasing the project. Something beyond her control. I think she spiraled into depression and indulged in stress eating, especially if the powers that be put a stop to the release of her new project. I hope she takes care of herself. It’s too bad that labels will only invest in her Christmas music/projects.
(Monday 8 August 2022; 16:20)
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