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Bipolar disorder (81,751) by Tiina from Finland
What a brave human being she is. I am so proud of her for telling her story and so happy that she is advocating mental health care. I remember back when we discussed whether Mariah was bipolar on this messageboard a few years ago. I didn't believe it back then. I thought that she just lived a life of extremes because of the nature of her profession. I am bipolar type 1 myself, diagnosed at 18. Her music was a source of light and hope during the roughest years of my life when I too felt isolated and ashamed. In interviews and through her music she always kept saying believe in yourself, which meant the world to me. I loved her like the big sister I never had and identified with her, which was comforting. The fact that Mariah is coming out as bipolar feels so personal to me. It shocked me because it actually made me take a step back and look at myself in a new light because this person that I've admired and idolized for so long who is also bipolar but who is incredibly talented and successful. This is incredible, she is going to reach so many people who are suffering alone and she will inspire them to get help and to commit to taking care of themselves.
(Wednesday 11 April 2018; 16:06)
The significance of the voice mail (71,000) by Tiina from Finland
I think this is a good sign. The fact that she wanted to speak to us directly like back in the day. Maybe Mariah is taking back control. Get some rest, Mariah, and use this time to reflect on your career.
(Sunday 8 January 2017; 19:56)
Mariah's World episode 4 (70,897) by Tiina from Finland
This episode was the most boring and disappointing yet. I skipped a lot of it. They have no real material, so they just have to shove random stuff on the screen or follow the fake Molly storyline, which we could care less about. And don't even get me started on Tanaka. This guy makes Nick seem likeable. I hope that the relantionship truly is just a desperate stunt to gain views for the show. By the way, the clip of Mariah and her "superfan" was from Helsinki, not from Oslo. I finally got to see what happened after all of us were rushed away. I was cringing the whole time. I must say that all of my feelings of disappointment arose once again. It makes me upset that there were other fans who had brought gifts but were not allowed to give them to Mariah because they could not sneak them in. Nor were we allowed to stay and chat with her like that. There were strict rules: the schedule is extremely tight, so get in and get out. My picture with Mariah got botched because of it. And this guy was not the only person that Mariah's music has helped to transform. There were many fans there who would have wanted to share our stories and thank her in person. We certainly all paid to be there. The rest of us just didn't know to be calculative and opportunistic. Mariah and her team ate it all up, too, because it made good material for the show. It is what is.
(Friday 6 January 2017; 12:20)
Tommy Mottola (70,849) by Tiina from Finland
Wow, I'm shocked he chimed in. This is getting good. Whatever happened in the past, this man knows what he is talking about. I agree with him 100% and it's also nice for him to speak about Mariah in such a respectful manner and to have her back. I doubt Mariah will listen though. But maybe she will.
(Thursday 5 January 2017; 16:17)
Billboard interview with Stella (70,715) by Tiina from Finland
Stella meeting Mariah was organic? How is it organic when you clearly use all of your connections to get to her? To me she sounded desperate to get hold of her. And I bet there was a lot of ass kissing involved to get into the position of the manager because that's the vibe I get from Mariah these days. You only tell her what she wants to hear and let her live in her bubble. I love her, even after the disappointing meet and greet last year, I will always worship her as an artist, but it's true, she lives in a reality of her own and to me Stella is enabling her and now possibly even pumping her up with "you're the biggest star, you're the best, you did them a favor, do not apologize, you should have thrown the mic in someone's face". I don't think that, say, about 10 years ago Mariah would have ever even for a second considered someone like Stella who has no real experience or understanding of managing someone at her level to suddenly be qualified for the job. Especially someone so, for a lack of a better word, ratchet, as they say. I hate that Stella has made Mariah a reality star. Even now Mariah still insists that reality tv is not for her. But it makes no difference that you try to call it a "docu-series" when it's clearly a reality show and a very badly scripted, boring one, for that matter. She's done an episode or two of "on the road with" type of tv episodes a while back and those where really fun and cute but Mariah's World is just awkward and fake. The only thing I like is when I see her with her kids. Same thing with these other endeavors, like I don't care about a makeup line or any of that fluff. Mariah once said that she refused to cash in on stuff like perfumes and just be the artist, the singer, songwriter, producer. I long for her to go back to that because I still care about the music. Mariah will always be my favorite female artist as far as voice and songwriting goes, she is my teacher. Her last album was very good. Her evolution in the studio has been such a wonderful journey. It's a gift to all of us other musicians in training and the world in general. But obviously music is not a priority anymore and that's sad. She likes to say it as Marissa said but it's just words. I like the fact that Mariah is branching out into films and directing and producing but why do I get the feeling Stella pushed Mariah to do these things because her real motivation was to partner with Mariah in a production company? From the get go I thought this woman just wanted a piece of Mariah's fame. Even before I learned she was her manager, I was like "Who is she? Why is this woman following her around and why is she in every picture with her? Who are these people?" You could tell they loved the attention and spotlight. Ugh.
(Tuesday 3 January 2017; 18:40)
Stella's attitude (70,603) by Tiina from Finland
Is not helping. She comes across as paranoid and rude. Stop pointing fingers. The last thing we need is a war with a TV network. And you need to stop swearing. Stella clearly does not know how to represant a star like Mariah. I also think it's really arrogant to say stuff like "Mariah was the biggest star there, she did them a favor". Not a good look.
(Monday 2 January 2017; 8:12)
Scared to sing? (70,574) by Tiina from Finland
I do feel very bad for her. She's always been insecure about performing live and matching up to the level of her studio vocals. She edited or dubbed shows even during her prime when she certainly did not need to but there was always an effort to make her seem absolutely pitch perfect. I think that made her insecure all along and now today she's not only trying to live up to an unreal level of vocal perfection but trying to be a version of herself from 20 years ago. I think what happened was that without hearing herself properly and certainly without the prerecorded vocals she was simply scared to sing at all because the last time she did that the mic feed was leaked. It's understandable that she felt defeated, however refusing to even try and walking out makes her look very bad. And how is it possible that there was no soundcheck? What could have been more important than that before a live TV taping?
(Sunday 1 January 2017; 19:19)
What was that? (70,534) by Tiina from Finland
This is awful, just awful. I'm not sure what went wrong there? What I don't get is why didn't she even try to sing? She's had problems with her ear monitors before yet was able to save the performance. At this point she can sing this song in her sleep. It certainly did not help to just stand there and even appear to have an attitude about the whole thing. Even if someone else made a mistake, as Mariah herself said, she will always be blamed for everything and the only thing she can do is apologize and keep it moving. Her attitude about it made her seem like the diva everyone thinks she is. The sad thing is that we had just began to gain back our momentum after the AIWFCIY fiasco but now that's all wrecked. And her team thought it was appropriate to address this on Instagram? So messy.
(Sunday 1 January 2017; 13:40)
Love the "new" Mariah (62,855) by Tiina from Finland
Just had to pop in to say that I love how confident Mariah has been lately. She's a lot less stiff and a whole lot more herself. These past TV interviews and paparazzi moments have been so much fun to watch. I can't wait to see the docuseries. If this change is Stella's influence on Mariah, then I approve.
(Monday 30 May 2016; 19:49)
If Prince likes it, then I like it (61,488) by Tiina from Finland
I am shocked and heartbroken. I love Prince. I saw him live back in 2011 with my father. It was the most amazing live show I've ever seen, or will ever see, I'm sure. I even framed my ticket. The air felt electrified that night. Prince had crazy charisma on stage. He was like James Brown and Jimi Hendrix rolled into one. He played overtime until the they switched the lights on. I actually cried afterwords it was that good. What a pioneer, what a legend. His music will live on.
(Friday 22 April 2016; 0:30)
AI / HerLoverboy (61,201) by Tiina from Finland
I agree. I think she should have left it at mentoring. I know people say that all the women on American Idol basically just did Mariah but even so, in my opinion, Mariah was always above it. I didn't think she would ever be a judge, so when she joined the show, I was like, why would you make me watch this tired ol' show? Even at that point American Idol was already washed up, although they sure had great talent there. But nobody cares. And then the whole Nicki thing happened. It wasn't a good look.
(Sunday 10 April 2016; 21:56)
Connecting with fans/how to do meet and greets (61,186) by Tiina from Finland
We were discussing this earlier and I'd like to try and explain what I meant a little better when I said that while Mariah was very sweet to us, I didn't feel like there was a real connection there. It wasn't a criticism of her as a person at all. I believe her when she says she wants to connect with her fans. There's plenty of proof of that. I still view her as one of the most generous stars ever. Mariah reminds me of Marilyn Monroe who said that it was the people who made her, no studio, no person. I feel like Mariah gets that and lives by it. What I meant by saying that there was a lack of connection was that there simply wasn't enough time for it and because you got the sense that they just wanted us out as fast as possible. Now, I want to point out that I fully realize it's neither realistic nor fair to Mariah to go to a meet and greet and expect to be able to sit down with her for like an hour and share a one-on-one conversation with her. It would be very selfish of any of us to expect her to give so much of herself to so many people. She simply cannot do that because, first, there would never be enough time, and second and most importantly, it would be emotionally draining for her. There is only so much Mariah can give of herself to her fans, even though she appreciates our support. At the end of the day, she's a human being, not a machine. But since people spend enormous amounts of money on the tickets, the meet and greets should be organized better, so that the whole thing would run smoothly from start to finish. However, that is not Mariah's responsibility. Mariah's job is to be Mariah. She has to be "on" through the entire time. While it might not seem like it, her job is the most stressful of all. Her team needs to make sure that Mariah is secured and stays on schedule. They should also put in the effort to give fans their money's worth. It's not rocket science to make the meet and greets a great experience for all. It just takes some planning and organizing to do. But they have to plan and organize these tours anyway. Fans should be let known exactly how much time they have with Mariah and then be given some simple pointers beforehand, like to first take the pictures to get that out of the way, then talk to her, so to not risk the pictures. That would have been very helpful. I think each fan should get 30 seconds one-on-one time with Mariah, that's all. Cut in half, that would leave 15 seconds to take the two pictures successfully, then the other 15 seconds to get to talk to her to bond with her for a moment. Compared to the 7-10 seconds most of us got, 30 seconds would have felt like an eternity. Most importantly, her team needs to work the meet and greets in on the tour schedule. They should consider the fact that there will be at least 15 people coming to the meet and greets each show night. It would have made it much more pleasant for everybody had they not rushed us like the way they did. The same thing seems to happen night after night at most of the meet and greets. If the amount of time each fan would get to spend with Mariah would be set beforehand and taken in consideration when creating the schedule for the night, they wouldn't be in such a hurry. Just make sure to stay on schedule and explain to the fans that it's important to co-operate and be thoughtful of other fans and not try and linger with Mariah, so to not waste time for the next person coming in taking the picture. Also, less people should be at the scene to make it less haphazard. Obviously, the security team needs to be there as well as her hair and makeup people and the photographer and a few people who would make sure everyone got their 30 seconds, no more, no less. But don't have the entire entourage when it's not even needed.
(Saturday 9 April 2016; 18:35)
Juan (61,183) by Tiina from Finland
Juan, all is well, no worries. I'm glad you accepted my apology and I accept yours in return. Thank you for understanding. My heart goes out to you for not only what you've been through in your life but for all that you have sacrificed to have been at the meet and greet that night and now for still waiting to be contacted by Mariah's team. I hope it happens for you and that they keep their promise.
(Saturday 9 April 2016; 16:08)
Marissa (61,171) by Tiina from Finland
Yes, I had a good laugh about that. The irony.
(Saturday 9 April 2016; 2:57)
Big thank you / picture quality (61,170) by Tiina from Finland
I just want to thank each one of you for understanding my point and dealing with my frustration and letting me vent. Thank you. And I really did not want to cause Juan to get upset. It's nothing personal. Someone asked about the quality of the pictures. My picture came in great quality which I'm really super happy about. It was just taken as I was walking up to Mariah, so I wasn't yet positioned for it. Luckily I turned my head and smiled at the camera but unfortunately Mariah is looking away. Some other fans got blurry pictures like the lense of the camera wasn't fully focusing or something. I don't blame the photographer because he looked stressed out. We were told they only take two pictures of each, so he had to nail those takes and because it all happened so fast, I'm sure it was a taunting task for him and unfortunately some pictures came out blurry.
(Saturday 9 April 2016; 2:55)
Thank you for understanding (61,140) by Tiina from Finland
Thank you Martyn and the webmaster for understanding my point. And I'm sorry to have brought more negativity on this board. [Webmaster: Please don't feel sorry. It's a good thing you told us about the meet and greet, so other fans won't get disappointed.]
(Friday 8 April 2016; 15:38)
Andrew (61,139) by Tiina from Finland
Thank you for understanding my point. I actually got teary because of Juan's post. I was wrong for assuming that they filmed him in another set up for the documentary and I apologize for that. But the things Juan said to me really hurt my feelings. I was there because of my love for Mariah. We had all been praying and preparing for that moment. And I'm sorry for going on and on about money but I'm pretty sure most of us do not have 700 euros lying around for nothing. Definitely not me. Shouldn't it go without saying that since we all paid for it, we should all get equal treatment? Of course. But I thought it was just pure luck on Juan's part that he got to spend more time with Mariah, not because he was manipulative or anything like that. I thought we were standing in line in a completely random order. And I had no idea about the awful things Juan's been through in his life. When he came out, all I could understand of him in passing was that he had spent time with Mariah and that it was amazing, which I'm sure it was. I congratulated him and told him I was excited for him as he passed me. That's all we communicated to each other that night. He wasn't even directly speaking to me as there were other fans on the scene. Anyway, this whole thing has once again turned into a big mess on this board and I feel bad about it. I should have just kept it to myself, I guess.
(Friday 8 April 2016; 15:25)
To Juan, an apology (61,130) by Tiina from Finland
Dear Juan, I never meant to offend you and I feel terrible that I did. I want to apologize to you, I'm very sorry. I hope you can forgive me for wrongfully assuming things. You seemed like a bubbly, fun person and I was genuinely happy for you when you came out so excited and I congratulated you. This is none of your fault at all. You were there as a fan like we all were. I guess you thought that I was saying you were being calculative or manipulative by standing last in line? Absolutely not. As far as I knew the line was formed randomly. I just assumed that Mariah's team chose the last person in line for the documentary because it was convenient. I didn't learn about your story until now. Hearing about your message makes me glad you were the one chosen to be featured in the documentary, honestly, your message deserves to be heard and I'm still excited for you. But, you see, we all deserved at least to have a successfully taken picture because we paid for it. And no, it's not just about the money but certainly it does matter after paying 700 euros just for the ticket. My point in bringing up buying a new dress and getting my hair and makeup done is not to boast but to just share how much I had been preparing for that special moment and for that picture that I so wanted to turn out good because meeting Mariah meant everything to me and I wanted it to be memorable because it was one of the highlights of my life. I don't think that makes me a bad person or a diva. I'm extremely thankful to my family for helping me financing the experience because I couldn't have done it without their support. I'm also very, very grateful to have had the opportunity to meet Mariah. That is a huge blessing and unfortunately some of the biggest lambs never get to do that because it's so expensive. I was just disappointed that we were being rushed through the whole thing and that they couldn't wait just a couple seconds for me to get positioned. Most of us spent only such a brief moment with Mariah that it went by in a blink of an eye and I wasn't the only one who was upset. I was talking to another fan there when you came out and she told me that she had been a lamb since 1994, dreaming of this moment ever since she was 12, and she was shocked that it only lasted some seconds for the money she spent on the ticket and because she thought she'd get to talk with Mariah. But we both agreed that we were still happy to have been part of it. Anyway, I don't even feel like discussing it anymore. What happened, happened. Juan, I wish you all the best now and in the future, and I mean it. Stay strong, my friend.
(Friday 8 April 2016; 12:57)
Meet and greet mess (61,098) by Tiina from Finland
I'm basically in debt now because of not only buying the meet and greet package but because I got a brand new dress that was shipped from America and I went to get my hair and makeup done for the picture, not to mention I had to pay for transportation and I also bought tour memorabilia. I spent well over 1000 euros for this thing and I'm not rich. Not that it was required for me to get a new dress or my hair and makeup done but surely it goes without saying that for a fan that moment we get to spend with Mariah means everything to us and most of us have been preparing for it. Like I said, the more I think about how they basically just ripped us off and put in the absolute minimum effort, the worse I feel. All that talk about wanting to connect with the fans during this tour and all these years of hearing Mariah say how important we are to her and what a special relationship we have with her, well, in my experience there was none of that. She was sweet, yes, but there was no connection there. It's also unfair that only one fan gets the royal treatment when we've all paid to get the ultimate experience.
(Thursday 7 April 2016; 11:02)
Re: Mariah was fabulous in Helsinki / Andrew (61,085) by Tiina from Finland
The more I think about what went down at the meet and greet, the more sour I feel about the experience. On the other hand, I was honoured to meet my idol and I feel thankful to have been able to do it with some major financial help from my family but I also feel cheated. I knew that we wouldn't have much time with Mariah but to only get to spend such a brief moment with her was very disappointing to say the least. To think that I paid 700 euros for only 7-10 seconds with Mariah and then on top of that I got the worst photo out of the bunch. I don't blame the photographer or Live Nation or the people in charge of the security, or Mariah. I blame Mariah's team. You're absolutely right, Andrew. They should work the meet and greets in on the tour schedule when people pay to be there. I've heard from fans from other countries who have had a similar experience to mine and said that the whole thing was nothing but a rushed through mess. First, we waited for at least 15-20 minutes while Mariah was being prepared in another room. We could hear her. At one point they asked to borrow a lighter to apparently light candles, so we thought it was going to be amazing. We also thought that maybe Mariah would come and greet us in the room we were in and then take the pictures. One of her backup singers came in to greet us and took photos with fans, which I thought was very generous of her. By the way, I felt bad that some fans had bought gifts to Mariah and they were not allowed to give them directly to her. Instead, they gave them to the security guy. We were also told that Mariah would not be signing any autographs. Anyway, after all that waiting we were all of a sudden in a big rush to go and take our pictures. They yelled us to get in line. The pictures were taken in a corner of a gloomy room. There were no candles, it was all very unglamorous. There was even overhead lighting. To use Mariah's terminology, the room was bleak. But that's fine, I don't need athmosphere. I just assumed there would be candles and what not but it must have been for another set up for the documentary she's filming, which I will get back to. But the least they could have done is give everyone 30 seconds with Mariah. A minute, well, I guess that would have been really pushing it. The way it was organized was very haphazard. There were too many people there and everyone was on the edge about the tight schedule. My question is: why sell meet and greet packages to fans when clearly there's no time for them to host these things? It's really unfair to the fans. I felt like Mariah's team could have cared less about making sure that we had a great experience that night or that the photos would turn out great. Anyway, the guy who happened to be last in line to get his picture got to appear in the documentary. I talked with him briefly afterwards and he was very excited, just screaming how he had spent extra time with Mariah and it was fabulous etc. I guess they filmed him in that other set up to make it seem like that's what it's like at your typical meet and greet and that that's how all the fans are being treated. If you ask me, it's pretty lame that they would stage it like that when it's so not like that at all. I'm glad I met her but I wouldn't recommend spending that much on the meet and greet tickets. Try spotting her outside a hotel or something because that's as brief as it's going to be anyway. You actually might have a better chance to really talk to her that way.
(Wednesday 6 April 2016; 19:37)
Re: Mariah was fabulous in Helsinki / Andrew (61,059) by Tiina from Finland
Yes, of course I paid for it. And it wasn't cheap. I must say, for all the money I paid, one thing that was disappointing was that the meet and greet was extremely rushed. It wasn't really even a proper meet and greet, it was just a few seconds with Mariah to take one picture. And when I say a few seconds, I mean literally. All in all I spent probably 7-10 seconds in her presence to take the photo. Don't get me wrong, I'm very thankful and blessed to have been able to do it. I also understand that the schedule is very tight and I didn't expect to be able to sit down and have an hour long conversation with her talking about how much she means to me. But it's not right that we pay so much money for the meet and greet only to be rushed through it. I just saw the photo they took of me and her last night and although I'm relieved that it turned out pretty good, I look distant and my hands are in an awkward position and what's upsetting is that Mariah isn't even looking at the camera. It was because there were so many different people around rushing us and the security guy told us to not try and grab her before we went in, so I was nervous because I didn't want to do anything wrong on top of being nervous about meeting her and looking decent in the photo. What I don't appreciate is that I paid 700 euros to be able to meet her and for the photo opportunity and they couldn't even wait for a few seconds for me to be able to exchange those few short words with Mariah without feeling like I risked the photo I paid so much money for and then for us both to get in position to take the picture. That would have taken maybe 5 seconds. They started taking photos right away and it all happened in a blink of an eye and then they rushed me out. Although I left there feeling emotional and happy about meeting her, I was also scared that the photo would turn out to be a disaster. Some fans got blurry photos even though these pictures were supposed to be taken by a professional photographer, at least my photo is in high resolution. I still feel like it was worth it, though, just because I love Mariah so much. It was just way over priced. We didn't even get front row seats.
(Tuesday 5 April 2016; 18:09)
Mariah was fabulous in Helsinki (61,038) by Tiina from Finland
I had the time of my life tonight. The show was great and Mariah was incredible, she sounded really strong and I don't care what anyone says, she was singing live. That voice is incredible. She also had great energy on stage and we had so many moments of her just talking to the crowd and she also did a mini impromptu songwriting session on stage. The meet and greet went by super fast because of the tight schedule but what means the most to me is that she looked me in the eyes and I told her "I love you, Mariah" and she said "I love you too." I have no idea if the photo came out good because it was so fast but at least we shared a moment and it was captured. I know you all know but she is so beautiful, even more beautiful in person. I'm just in awe of her. If you ever get a chance to see her live, do it.
(Tuesday 5 April 2016; 0:54)
Mariah live in Helsinki (60,969) by Tiina from Finland
We're almost there, only three more days. She'll be here on Monday or Sunday. I'm beyond excited. Just seeing the show will be such a high, I will be an emotional mess by the time she sings Hero but actually meeting her is surreal. It's like meeting Elvis or Michael Jackson, a true musical legend and genius. I've been a lamb since Touch My Body came out. That's when I truly fell in love with her personality as well as her music because I was like not only is she so incredibly talented but she's funny and beautiful. I still have no idea what I'm going to say to her but I guess I just want to thank her for being her. Her music has made such a huge impact on my life. That "if you believe in yourself enough and know what you want you're gonna make it happen, there's an answer if you reach into your soul, they can't take that away, I can make it through the rain, carry me high, I just can't give up now" message has really hit home for me over the years. I'm getting teary right now.
(Friday 1 April 2016; 20:41)
Angry face (59,286) by Tiina from Finland
I totally didn't mean to put that angry face there, I was going for the laughing one but accidentally got the other one. My bad. At the end of the day, I'm just happy that she's happy. It's all good.
(Saturday 23 January 2016; 22:35)
Mariah engaged (59,259) by Tiina from Finland
Hi everybody. I haven't visited this messageboard in ages and so I thought I'd pop in to say hi and talk about this tiny little piece of news of Mariah being engaged again. I'm shocked because I assumed that she would not want to get married for a while at least. It's so soon. I'm not trying to be shady but is her divorce from Nick yet even finalized? But then again, life is short. Follow you heart. I don't know Packer but he is at least a mature, grown man in the sense that he is about the same age as Mariah, he has his own success and fortune and he could care less about fame or attention. I just hope James didn't put Mariah on the spot by proposing in front of all their friends and that they discussed it through. By the way, I'm ecstatic about the Europian tour and her performing in Finland for the first time ever. I'm going to be in the meet and greet, so I will meet Mariah in person.
(Saturday 23 January 2016; 0:23)

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