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Not surprised (106,276) by Lee from USA Didn't Whitney cuss out a fan for asking for an autograph? Didn't Aretha Franklin threw shade with the best of them? Both were bigger divas than Mariah. Nobody complained when they were inducted. But then again, they were Clive's girls. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 23:01) this is a reply to message 106,270

Not surprised (106,270) by Jamie from UK I agree, that post from Instagram I put on shows the Mariah she should be, professional, executed and a performer. The diva persona is where she went wrong in my eyes. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 18:33)

Not surprised (106,271) by Lee from USA Why should I respect an artist who has ride on other artists' coattails to succeed? You can take away Diddy, Dr.Dre, and the other collaborators, and see what happens. Then again, it could be jealousy on the part of the voters. Everything that she does gets crazy coverage in the press. Therefore, they resent her for it. I would resent it too, if my ceremony got worse ratings than a MC Christmas special. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 18:45) this is a reply to message 106,269

Not surprised (106,269) by Randy from USA Mary J Blige has 9 Grammys and 2 Oscar nominations. People don't snicker when you say her name. And listen Lee, I think you think I'm arguing for MJB. I'm not. There's not a damn thing Mary can do better than MC. Sing, write, dress, give face. MC wins. What I was saying is that the industry respects her more and that's why she was selected over MC. And again a lot of this is MCs fault. She has Tyra and Heidi Klum on stage doing her makeup. She's more interested in her dullard damsel diva than being an artist. She's laying in bed for a portion of her concert. The optics aren't there for an iconic artist. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 17:33)

Not surprised (106,265) by Lee from USA Whitney Houston didn't do a lot of rock duets either. Plus, Mariah has a lot of celebrities that beg her for autographs and selfies. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 15:04) this is a reply to message 106,264

Not surprised (106,264) by Robert-Anthony from United States Mary J. Blige has had a lot of high profile pop duets during her 30 years in the music business. Mary's duets with U2, George Michael, Sting, Elton John, Santana, Ray Charles, Maroon 5, Rod Stewart, Andre Bocelli, and Quincy Jones have broaden her appeal to the music industry executives as a whole. I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame committee looks at that too. That is what MC's career has lacked. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 14:42)

Not surprised (106,262) by Lee from USA If people take Mary so seriously, then why is she still struggling financially? Mariah met 3 presidents, how many did Mary meet? How many artists did Mary influence? Mary could go on a world tour, and be laughed out of other countries. Besides, it's ironic to talk respectability. [censored] (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 14:12) this is a reply to message 106,258

Not surprised (106,258) by Randy from USA I just think Mary is more respected in the industry and that culturally Mary represents something for soul music. People take her seriously. Mariah is great for a throwback, a whistler, a relic to be thawed out each November. I think these perceptions is where Mariah's image hurts her. I remember one of my Whitney fans responses to my dig that Mariah had more number ones. He said "People remember Whitney songs." I wonder how many non-fans know the difference between Fantasy, Heartbreaker and Honey. Anyway, I'm back. Did ya'll miss me? P.S. I was more shocked that Sinead, Sade didn't get in. P.P.S. How messy would it be if Madonna inducted Cher lol. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 01:30)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,254) by Lee from USA How am I wrong? People aren't supporting her. Besides, where was she when Emimen and others said worse things about Mariah? (Monday 22 April 2024; 14:05) this is a reply to message 106,253

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,253) by C from United States This is such an ugly statement dropping in misogynoir. Mariah wouldn’t support this (Monday 22 April 2024; 13:06)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,252) by Lee from USA Tell me about it. Mary has virtually no fans outside of the USA. She only wins accolades out of pity whereas Mariah is selling out concerts. Our girl has met 3 US presidents and gets worshipped by other celebrities. (Monday 22 April 2024; 11:21) this is a reply to message 106,251

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,251) by Robert-Anthony from United States Mary J. Blige got it before Mariah. What? Are you kidding me? (Monday 22 April 2024; 11:03)

Las Vegas (106,186) by Lee from USA If the fans that paid for the tickets and merchandise aren't complaining then why are you griping about it? It is not your money. She must be doing something right if she sells out venues despite the BS. (Tuesday 16 April 2024; 00:51) this is a reply to message 106,185

Las Vegas (106,185) by Tevin from USA I agree, especially when some people on this board were recently complaining about how Taylor Swift is screwing her fans over by releasing multiple vinyls with different songs on them. They need to keep up that same energy with Mariah. I rather spend an extra $100 bucks out of pocket for a couple new songs (I agree it's outrageous, I'm just making a point), then spend thousands of dollars (tickets, plus air fair, plus hotels), to see Mariah press play on tape player and lip sync to new vocals. I know that touring is where money is made, but if she has time to record all of these pre-recorded songs, she has enough time to drop a new album. Especially since her new vocals sound really good and healthy. Or she should do strip down versions of some songs (like the promo clips she posted). I would not even be mad if half of the songs were live and the other half lipped, but come on, no one (especially in this economy) can say that it is reasonable and appropriate to sing for 2 minutes in a 2 hour long show. One positive note is that her vocals are sounding good again. (Monday 15 April 2024; 23:14)

Breakdown (live in Perth - footage) (105,852) by Lee from USA She pretty much wore the same thing in the video. Why complain now? (Sunday 3 March 2024; 18:46) this is a reply to message 105,850

Breakdown (live in Perth - footage) (105,850) by Zachariah from Croatia Yes. It is just not her. (Sunday 3 March 2024; 15:15)

Rock and Roll HOF (105,386) by Lee from USA Ikr. (Monday 12 February 2024; 21:15) this is a reply to message 105,384

Rock and Roll HOF (105,384) by Robert-Anthony from United States Just speaking it into existence. The Clark Sisters have a song called Name It Claim It. (Monday 12 February 2024; 20:47)

Rock and Roll HOF (105,381) by Lee from USA How it is so? (Monday 12 February 2024; 12:42) this is a reply to message 105,361

Rock and Roll HOF (105,361) by Robert-Anthony from United States She already will be one of the honorees. This is going to be her year to shine. (Sunday 11 February 2024; 13:46)

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,379) by Lee from USA I did vote. I thought it was decided by people in the industry more than fan vote. (Monday 12 February 2024; 12:28) this is a reply to message 105,375

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,375) by Pedro from Brazil Don't forget to vote every day for Mariah. She's way behind. Click on the link vote.rockhall.com. (Monday 12 February 2024; 00:40)

Billboard Hot 100 (105,322) by Lee from USA I agree. I mean, she did topple Taylor and Adele from the top of the Billboard Top 100. (Thursday 8 February 2024; 12:10) this is a reply to message 105,319

Billboard Hot 100 (105,319) by Lainsky from Philippines I did not realize that Ariana's "Yes, And?" went to number for a week. I mean, I used to visit the chart every week, especially the late 90's and 2000's. And every Christmas season since AIWFCIY went to No.1. Other than those times, not so often. The truth is, I miss seeing Mariah in the chart, not only during Christmas. I know her prime years are behind us, and it will take a miracle to see her again on top. However, I still believe it is not impossible. Thus, I hope her next release (if there is truly one) will do that for her like another TEOM moment. Well, we can only hope for nowadays, and there's nothing wrong with staying positive. (Thursday 8 February 2024; 04:21)

Article: Mariah Carey visits the White House (104,611) by Lee from USA Polls are conducted with people using landlines, which favors older conservatives. In the US elections this year, conservatives got beaten soundly, especially the ones Trump endorsed. This is a MC site. If the kids and their parents aren't complaining about her leotards, then why are you complaining? (Friday 22 December 2023; 13:50) this is a reply to message 104,610

Article: Mariah Carey visits the White House (104,610) by Andrew from the UK How a person can, simultaneously, be so right and so wrong. If you read any polls and political commentary that isn't Far Left you would understand that Trump is far and wide likely to become the Republican nominee in 2024 and 47 in 2025, if Biden is his opponent. But the answer is Trump. Well done. And you got the concert right. But the name wrong. Again. The concert is known as St. John the Divine. Is "Harlem" the new "fetch", I wonder? It ain't gonna happen. Sorry you go home empty handed. But have you had a nice day out? (Friday 22 December 2023; 13:01)

News (104,497) by Lee from USA Wasn't she #1 at the first week of 2023? (Sunday 10 December 2023; 20:16) this is a reply to message 104,496

News (104,496) by Robert-Anthony from United States I hear from a lot of my co-workers and friends that they have grown tired of AIWFCIY this year. When I am out and about in the stores, I am hear other artists' versions of AIWFCIY. Maybe MC won't make it to number #1 this year and that is okay with me. I just want her to get back in the studio and get that album finished. (Sunday 10 December 2023; 18:53)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,397) by Lee from USA She gets treated vastly differently than her peers. She is vilified for her successes and mocked for failure. It's hard to convince people otherwise when it happens often. (Monday 4 December 2023; 20:22) this is a reply to message 104,392

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,392) by Edward from USA That's not boycott or illegal. You don't have to listen to those playlists. Most people have their own playlists anyway, and Spotify is not the only streaming platform. Brenda wasn't at the top of some of those playlists before. Was she being boycotted since AIWFCIY hit number one? I thought we had moved on from the paranoia lambs tend to have about some mega powerful entity coming for Mariah. AIWFIY and RATCT are the Christmas hits they are because millions of people love them and got them there. You can discount, you can gift, you can pray, you can throw a lambtrum, but all that won't make a song popular or hit if people don't like it. (Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,319) by Lee from USA The weird thing about this is that these folks don't care about Darlene in the first place. The woman worked with Cher this year, and still no difference in Billboard chart position. Love threw a tantrum and still got smoked in the charts. Brenda's song came out 36 years before AIWFCIY and has been around for 5-6 decades, and the label finally cares about it. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 01:02) this is a reply to message 104,318

Mariah vs Brenda (104,318) by Robert-Anthony from United States Thanks for the update, Edward. Seems like there is a considerable effort this year to keep MC from getting to number one or staying number one for multiple weeks this year. UMG is Brenda Lee's record label. They are really going all out this year with this huge promotional push to celebrate RATCT's 65th anniversary. But why now after 4 years of AIWFCIY being the number one Christmas song? Well I think I know why. Some people in the music and television industry are tired of hearing MC being called the queen of Christmas. It started when MC wanted to trademark the Queen Of Christmas last year. She angered Darlene Love and Elizabeth Chan. Many in the music and television industry were angered by MC's trademark move as well. So, I feel this is their payback for MC attempting to take the queen of Christmas all for herself and from sweet Darlene Love. Everyone already feels sorrow for her how Phil Spector used her voice and she never was publicly credited on a lot the songs she did for him. Phil Spector controlled her early career and was content to leave her uncredited on the songs he did for him. Do you think that I have hit on something? (Saturday 2 December 2023; 00:13)

Mariah, please be ready (104,011) by Lee from USA Oh please. You sound like one of those anti-sjws that whine about minorities, women and the LGBTQ+ communities being in mainstream media. I doubt Mariah gives a damn about disgruntled pseudo fans ranting about her versus the millions who still love her. (Friday 10 November 2023; 14:59) this is a reply to message 104,008

Mariah, please be ready (104,008) by Andrew from the UK I don't know how much money Mariah makes from royalties each year but it's surely got to be around the US$50m mark? I can appreciate the "rug pulled from under you" theory - but it's so unlikely as to be an impossibility. I cannot now see, at this age, and with the experience she has, why Mariah cannot lower the keys of the songs, sing them, and move around the stage once more. Madonna is ten years older than Mariah, recently got out of hospital, clearly still has an injury to her leg, and still is still delivering a reasonable energised and effective show (although there's a lot of criticism of a different nature that can be levelled at that artist). I have always said that I think Mariah's weight, and ever expanding breasts, have negatively impacted her movement and her singing - if she cared about her fans she would do something about it. She would lower the keys of her songs, put on a pair of pants, move about the stage again and have actual fun rather than looking like a (rein)deer in headlights. And we would have a lot more fun with it. For the love of all that is holy, Mariah: go back to the way you were. (Friday 10 November 2023; 09:15)

Mariah, please be ready (103,998) by Lee from USA Yet the media gives her a ton of face time anyways. Rolling Stone is still clout chasing her. (Thursday 9 November 2023; 11:42) this is a reply to message 103,997

Mariah, please be ready (103,997) by Robert-Anthony from United States MC doesn't have that energy like she had before Memoirs. Her total artist package diminished after E=MC2. After Memoirs, MC became dillushioned with the music industry. Every album after 2008 failed to reach the masses. Every single tanked at on charts. Her vocal ability was being questioned by everyone. The focused and driven MC checked out years ago. (Thursday 9 November 2023; 04:51)

Qatar wedding performance (103,697) by Lee from USA Then how is she selling out MSG and getting paid for private concerts? Why does the media make a big fuss about her doing anything? (Monday 9 October 2023; 21:28) this is a reply to message 103,695

Qatar wedding performance (103,695) by Robert-Anthony from United States MC was having vocal issues long before 2020. I don't think her vocal difficulties are because of Covid-19. She should just sit down with Oprah for a tell all Oprah special. She is not fooling the Lambs or the general public anymore. Will she tell us what is going on with her voice? At the end of the day, she owes her loyal fans a great live performance without lip syncing. (Monday 9 October 2023; 20:42)

Chaka Khan (102,283) by Lee from USA And she continued to do so without him. (Saturday 4 March 2023; 03:03) this is a reply to message 102,282

Chaka Khan (102,282) by Robert-Anthony from United States Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. (Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54)

Mr. Morton (102,189) by Lee from USA If she does, then the public would complain about her being a copycat. (Tuesday 7 February 2023; 10:46) this is a reply to message 102,188

Mr. Morton (102,188) by Robert-Anthony from United States MC just does not work with a multitude of fresh and innovative producers and songwriters exclusively. She should take Chris Brown's and Harry Styles' approach to choosing songwriters and producers - collaborate with young and upcoming songwriters and producers who are really good at giving an artist a unique new sound. Harry Styles' As It Was is a brilliant masterpiece that stays in your head all day. Brezzy has had hit after hit on the radio because of who he collaborates with. With MC's impressive songwriting skills and a fresh sound, the Grammys would take notice again. Hopefully, MC is taking notes this year to step out of her comfort zone. (Tuesday 7 February 2023; 00:55)

Mr. Morton (102,187) by Lee from USA It's justified. They snubbed for years but write clickbait articles about how great she is. (Monday 6 February 2023; 10:18) this is a reply to message 102,186

Mr. Morton (102,186) by Norman from USA Okay, I'm just going to say it: I'm a salty beep who will die mad at the Grammy's. I know this topic has been discussed as nauseum, but there's just no way it can only be 5 wins for her. I don't believe she deserves all the awards, but she should certainly be lauded far more than she has been. Her pen game, production, vocal arrangements, and vocals were superb in her prime. I'm mad and saddened that her artistry has been dismissed and overlooked for so long. And, no - I'm not congratulating beepin nobody (quadruple italic and underlined exclamation marks.) (Monday 6 February 2023; 04:50)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,001) by Lee from USA More clout chasing. (Monday 2 January 2023; 15:43) this is a reply to message 102,000

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,000) by Norman from USA Rolling Stone has a history of not knowing what the bleep they're doing with these lists. The Celine omission is just another example, of which there are are countless on this list alone. It's best to just keep it pushing. (Monday 2 January 2023; 15:13)

Merry Christmas to All on MTV (101,958) by Lee from USA It was on MTV like two days ago. After years of snubbing her at the VMAs, I thought they were just clout chasing, and I was right. It pulled nearly 4 million viewers when it premiered on 12/20. The VMAs and RRHOF ceremony couldn't pull that off even with well-known artists. (Sunday 25 December 2022; 17:12) this is a reply to message 101,956

Merry Christmas to All on MTV (101,956) by T from USA Does anybody know if the concert aired on MTV in any countries? I remember the press release said it would but then I heard that it was taken off the schedules. Did it in fact air on MTV? I really hope so as more exposure for MC at this time of the year will set her up nicely for her next project. (Sunday 25 December 2022; 04:37)

So what (101,885) by Lee from USA If Tommy did wonders for Mariah, then why he couldn't [he] do the same for Thalia, Brenda or MJ? All of the other artists blowing him off isn't a good look. (Sunday 18 December 2022; 00:30) this is a reply to message 101,883

So what (101,883) by BFF from United States I agree. Mariah needs a dose of reality. Tommy wasn't good for her personal life, but his influence was really good for her professionally. She was much more disciplined and focused, and she kept herself in better shape physically and vocally. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they had never gotten married but kept their relationship strictly professional. (Saturday 17 December 2022; 22:34)

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