Randy / Mariahs' heritage (21,811)
by Special K from California
Randy, not that you ever answer ones questions when directed towards you but I just
don't understand why you would rather download new singles from the re-release illegally
instead of legally. Singles are 99 cents. It's not like you have to break bread. I
totally get not wanting spend 12-16:00 dollars on another album. That's gas money (well
actually 12-16:00 dollars would barley get me a quarter of tank of a gas because my
selfish self just had to get the Tahoe, ugh). I feel you there, but choosing to download
Mariah's new singles illegally is just plain wrong to me as a Mariah fan. I would
download Leona's stuff illegally with no problem, lol. I actually like the girl but I
can't see spending money on her or Rihanna. Oh hells no. Please don't take this as an
attack. I'm just trying to understand your point of view. I agree with those that say a
re-release is geared towards people who haven't bought the album yet, and plain die
hards who will buy anything Mariah puts out. I'm sure IDJ has already taken into
consideration that fans that bought the album already, may opt to download the new
singles. Hmm, Mariah's grandmother and mother were very strong willed/couragous women
to marry men outside of their race back in those times. Judging from the pics of
Mariah's grandmother from the Bye Bye video (the pic with the pigtails and the gangster
lean pose), I think Big momma knew how handle foolishness with a quickness anyway.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 20:19) |
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SJL (21,810)
by Ericasharlette from London, UK
I see where you're coming from, however I don't think you have to be a "fan at all
costs" to take what you see and hear with a pitcher of salt - especially where Mariah
is concerned. I've said on more than one occasion on this board that MCC is not held
to the same standard as other celebrities. 10 people just as big as her can commit the
same act, but only she would be vilified for it. Awhile ago, Kimora can drive down
Sunset in her bikini (only a few years younger than MCC before anyone comes with the
age thing), Madonna can slice up her face, create a rumour mill around her fidelity to
sell singles/albums/tour tickets, take off her clothes to display her man-like
physique. All with a hell of a lot less manners and what happens? Nothing. Mariah wears
beach clothing to a beach-themed event, she's told to put her stuff away. She wore a
bikini and posed on Roberto Cavali's yacht when paps tracked her down in the middle of
the frickin ocean and gets ripped to pieces. The most ridiculous rumours are accepted
into historic rule and she's credited as cause for all planetary wrongs short of world
hunger (and even that some folks are trying think up a spin for). I'm not saying she
does no wrong, I'm not high. I'm saying with all the abuse she gets, why do I need to
add to it? There a vast deal less she is praised for, so I personally choose to pick up
my pom-poms (not just metaphorical) and cheer on Mimi's team anytime I can. And you
know what? I do it for as long as need be too.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 15:31) |
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FAO: Londoners help I'll Be Loving You Long Time with airplay in the
UK (21,809) by Hannah from the UK
It's bubbling up in a few stations here and there, we really need your help.
Kiss FM
Choice FM
Capital FM
Radio 1
Google
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 14:11) |
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Re: Re-release (21,808)
by Angela from San Jose, California
I totally agree with Jammie and Mae. A re-release is geared towards music fans who
haven't bought the album, or hard core fans that will buy anything Mariah puts out for
the sake of collection purposes. This album has barely sold over a million copis in the
US and world wide sales are just sad. There are alot of music fans who haven't bought
this album. In that case, I see nothing wrong with breathing life back into an album
that the general public has totally lost interest in. Especially internationally. Timing
is everything and since Mariah is going out on tour in November, I think the re-release
is a good idea. If you bought the album and don't want to spend money on a re-release
then don't, but please understand the world doens't revolve around you, so don't
automatically assume that others wouldn't be interested in a re-release neither. There
is still a large pool of music fans out there that bought TEOM and not E=MC2. If IDJ
feels there is a single or two on this re-release that will grab those potential buyers
attention to make them want to spend some money, I say go for it.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 10:03) |
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I want the re-release asap (21,807)
by Coi from the US
Anybody know when the re-release is coming because I heard it's coming out around
November. I heard that she's finished 4 brand new tracks recently, two of them are
called "Staying here with you" and "Yesterday". But I don't know if it's official. I
guess we will find out in November, or maybe sooner. Peace.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 7:10) |
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Bye Bye (21,806)
by Nattalie from the USA
Ok, does it bother anyone when you look at Yahoo music top videos and it says Bye Bye
is the number 1 video of this week? Uh what the heck happened to IBLULT? I watched that
vid so many times that IBLULT should be in its place but it's not. What's wrong with
the world? Please tell me I'm missing something on there or they need to refresh their
page or something.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 6:55) |
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Re-releases are cheaper (21,805)
by Alexis from the USA
In regards to the comment about paying $24 for the same music, after Thanksgiving, I
picked up the platinum edition of TEOM for $6. I got the first album on a pre-sale, I
believe, at 9.99. I hope MC does do a re-release because I wanna hear her sing about
her new life.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 6:41) |
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Tony (21,804)
by Nattalie from the USA
And that's why I don't do Mac. Lol. Man, that really sucks. Sorry I can't help you.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 6:41) |
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TEOM vs EMC2 (21,803)
by Nattalie from the USA
I simply think that EMC2 is better because her vocals are a thousand times better. I'm
not trying to be all against her or anything but in the TEOM her voice sounds like it
was lacking support and it couldn't sustain itself. Especially in songs like Circles,
Stay The Night, and and more but those 2 examples. It just sounds screechy and
unpleasant that it was so hard for me to listen to them. Especially when she is singing
at the end. But EMC2 is just beautiful and sounds better live now and more relaxed and
easy to listen to. Every song on the album is clear and there is no struggle in her
voice in this album.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 6:36) |
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Ryan (21,802)
by Nattalie from the USA
Lol. You're thinking about MC and LL doing a song together but I'm thinking about why
the heck is someone like Miley Sirus going to be singing with all them big time folk.
She aint nobody.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 6:17) |
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The real TEOM part 2 (21,801)
by Mae from the Philippines
In my opinion, the real TEOM part 2 isn't E=MC2, E=MC2 as what Mariah said is just the
dessert (made to be radio friendly). The real TEOM part 2 is yet to come. I mean, I hope
the next MC album can match TEOM sales/hits and lyrical content. In the meantime, I'm
enjoying E=MC2 the way it was meant to be, fun and energetic. No matter what happens,
MC will always be popular, no one can replace her so she's still going to make hits and
have more sales I'm sure.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 4:36) |
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Re: Andre from Canada (21,800)
by Guido Raphael from Paraguay
Finally someone that thinks the way I do. When I heard the IBLULT remix, I also posted
in here that these new remixes are no remixes. Adding a rap verse, what the hell? And
they all treated me like a non-fan. Please. I'm a hard fan like all of you. It's just
that I miss the good all days with CDs Maxi Singles with masterpiece such as My All/Stay
Awhile, I Still Believe/Pure Imagination and Thank God I Found You/Make It Last. At that
time I said that Mariah was being lazy about remxes and didn't took too much of her time
to go to the studio and think about a great remix with resung vocals. And they told me
to give her a break so she can enjoy her marriage. Anyway. Now I think it's all the
labels fault, they are really doing a bad job in terms of remixes and international CD
Singles (because they do not release any 5" CD Single or 5" Maxi Single for Mariah
anymore, the last one was Through The Rain). I don't think the re-release will be a two
cd box set with remixes of all the tracks, that would be too much work for IDJ. But I'm
pretty sure it will just include a couple of new tracks and some remixes and with only
one potential #1 hit single (just like the TEOM UPE). I'll still buying it no matter
what. But I'll be a little more enthusiastic if she does something more out of the
regulars re-releases.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 3:46) |
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E=MC2 vs. TEOM (21,799)
by Ryan from NYC
Honestly, it's really hard to pick which is better simply because they are so different.
TEOM is a more soulful album with much more variety. It just flows better because it
has all types of rnb, from the old school soul rnb (Circles, I Wish You Knew) to hip
hop inspired rnb (ILT, SIO, SS) to gospel (FLAB). E=MC2 is more of the same pop inspired
rnb, still some variety, but not as wide as TEOM. It;s still a good party record overall.
(Wednesday August 20, 2008; 2:23) |
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New songs being worked on (21,798)
by Ryan from NYC
Hey guys, I'm like almost sure that there will indeed be a re-release. I remember
reading a couple weeks ago that Mariah was in the studio working with someone but I
can't remember who. I think it was Crystyle, again.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 23:47) |
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Re-release theory (21,797)
by Tobby from Canada
If people start seeing this re-release pattern happen over and over again, then maybe
they won't buy the next album when it comes out. Maybe people will illigelly download
the whole album and then wait for the re-release to come out before purchasing it. And
then there goes MC's first week sales.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 21:20) |
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E=MC2 versus TEOM (21,796)
by Robby from the Philippines
I love the new album compared to the last one simply because the songs are really,
really, really great. I am just saddened to the idea that it sells quite far less than
the last effort. My top five Mariah Carey album (so far) are as follows:
1. Butterfly
2. E=MC2
3. TEOM
4. Glitter
5. Daydream
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 21:03) |
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Mariah and Leona in same song? (21,795)
by Ryan from NYC
So I just read an article saying that Mariah will be in a song to support cancer with
Leona Lewis, Ashanti, Rihanna, Mary J. Blige and others. Hmmm, that will be interesting.
The song will hit airwaves in September.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 20:46) |
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Re-release (21,794)
by Jammie from the US
I really don't understand where the opposition to a re-release is coming from. I just
don't get it. Its like telling Mariah not to make new music. So if she comes up with a
great music this month or the last couple of months? Do you want to wait for the next
album to arrive? Some of you probably enjoy pain. Lol. It just boggles my mind why one
wouldn't want Mariah to do a re-release. This "re-release boom" as someone put it will
not fizzle out. So what if people will just download them, what's the difference, people
download now anyway. People who download will download, and some probably downloaded
this whole album already. A re-release is for 2 people: hardcore fans, and those who
don't have the album yet. Those who already have the album and can't afford to buy a
re-release, well, hello, you can get the single off iTunes anyway. You don't want to
spend for the whole album, then get the singles only.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 17:55) |
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Re-release (21,793)
by Randy from the USA
I agree with Stephen that E=MC2 followed a "get me a hit now" formula versus being the deep lyrical artist we know MC
to be. The best songs on TEOM were not singles in my opinion so I don't think it was a better album due to sales. Also
yes, I am a MC fan and I would love new music but it's all about economics. I am not paying another $12 for 5 new
songs. Some of you on here post as if a re-release is an album worth of new material. Keep in mind for TEOM it was
three new songs and a remix so I paid $24 to get generally the same music. If I'm gonna drop another $12 I want a new
release. Someone said a lot of effort goes into making a new album and therefore a re-release can tie you over unless
you unrealistically expect MC to release an album a year. I don't expect her to do that however didn't she release
albums in 90, 91, 92, 93, 95, 97 and 99? I can guarantee the "re-release" boom that the record industry relies on will
fade. Because people will start downloading the new songs illegally.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 14:06) |
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Re-release is not harmful (21,792)
by Mae from Philippines
All I can is, what's wrong with having a re-release? If you want it, you have money and you want it in your collection
then buy one, if you feel it's a waste of money, then don't. In my opinion, re-release albums are not specifically for
fans, re-release just aims to make people who haven't bought the album yet to buy the album now. Marketing gimmick.
I'm a MC fan, if I have extra money, I'll buy the re-release but if I don't, I won't buy. Just the same principle with
buying other versions of albums as a fan, if you can afford one and you collect, then buy but if you feel you'll just
regret it afterwards and don't see the point of having another copy, then don't buy and just save your money. It's
like buying a new laptop today only to find out there'll be a better one tomorrow with cool features at the same price
or even at a lower cost. All products have some sorts of "re-release/promos". Buyer's remorse is really sad. I'm
always a victim.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 11:26) |
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For me, TEOM is better than E=MC2 (21,791)
by Mae from the Philippines
Well, it's difficult to weigh because TEOM and E=MC2 offer different things. Both albums deserve Grammy
awards/nominations and both produced hits but TEOM is more of a "Grammy" product. The songs in that album are for me
more meaningful and more inspirational. Of course, EMC is different, every song gives you last song syndrome. It's
very modern and upbeat but compared to TEOM and other MC albums, some EMC songs are comparable to some of the RnB
songs we know or some of them sounded like other artists' music. I'm not generalizing, but there are some songs in
EMC which are very familiar to my ears, not totally fresh compared to TEOM songs.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 10:56) |
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Please, please, please anyone (21,790)
by Tony from the USA
So I was managing my iTunes and iPod and stuff on my new MacBook, and accidentally deleted all the songs on it. Yes,
I cried. Don't even know what the fuck that I did or what button I must've wrongly hit. 4600+ songs and videos, and
I didn't back up. Bummer. So I'm re-downloading them and I really really need There For Me. I never had the single,
I ain't gonna lie that I got it off of Limewire. But only that song and two or three others like that song she sang
with John Legend at that event. Can't remember. Can anyone please send me There For Me? Can't find it on iTunes
either. I'd highly appreciate it. Please send it over to zooropaachtung@yahoo.com. Thanks much guys.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 10:26) |
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A well-produced re-release? Yes (21,789)
by Ian from JB, Malaysia
I will definitely say yes. This can add the number of my MC collection. I wish for a completed new cover and inside
artwork. Just like TEOM ultra platinum, with some new hot hits and new remixes, and a bonus DVD. I don't like the
cover of E=MC2 and the black and white image is so boring. Can't wait for it.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 9:00) |
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About the re-release (21,788)
by Harry B from the US
I don't get why someone wouldn't want a re-release. Sometimes I doubt if the posters here are real fans. I mean, to
suggest Mariah to go back to the drawing board, instead of a re-release must be smoking something. I mean, you have
to recognize the amount of effort it takes to come up with a full album, if it's that easy as some of you suggest,
then expect Mariah to release a stupid album every year. Just because E=MC2 isn't doing as well as TEOM doesn't mean
it's a bad album. It's a great album. A very good one. A re-release, especially if accompanied with solid new singles,
is an opportunity for the album to shine a bit more and gain new listeners. Who would buy new singles from this album?
Probably half of Mariah fans, because there's no point to buy it since they already have it. Who would buy new singles
from Mariah? Almost all of us. Simple as that.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 6:35) |
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In my opinion, E=MC2 is better than Emancipation (21,787)
by Harry B from the US
The songs flows much better than TEOM, and there is no lag time. Every song is strong. Just because Emancipation sold
more doesn't mean it's better. It sold more because there's a monster hit on it (WBT) and E=MC2 doesn't have one
(yet). But as far as overall album quality, I vote for E=MC2. There's 2 or 3 songs in TEOM that I skip, while I listen
to E=MC2 all throughout. I know that's not a popular opinion, but that's just me.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 6:28) |
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Oh yeah Sal (21,786)
by Nattalie from the USA
Hey, I forgot to mention lol your comment was freaking fantastic. Hahaha. That was hilarious. Oh and by the way you
forgot to mention Beyonce at the bottom.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 6:24) |
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Sal (21,785)
by Nattalie from the USA
You know I really do agree with you but only 95%. When you had said that Mariah and Madonna have the same dance skills,
I was about to throw up. Madonna dances like a freak of nature. Mariah moves around. Big difference.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 6:20) |
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Blah blah blah (21,784)
by Stephen from the USA
I am so sick of reading the negativity. I honestly feel that the reason Mariah's E=MC2 is not doing so well at the
moment is that she made an album full of radio hits, no originality. TEOM had originality, like Circles, or Stay The
Night. I think on her next album she should just not be so worried about making radio smashes with JD and to just be
herself in the studio.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 3:30) |
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My two cents (21,783)
by Andre from Canada
Hey there. I haven't posted in a while, but I feel I need to get a few things off my chest. First of all, I would
agree we need a re-release. The singles chosen so far (with the exception of TMB) have poor in my view. A new release
with a hot single would be a great shot of energy into this album. Or how about a double album? With all the tracks
left out of the original release, we could easily have a double album of all new material. Or how about a 2 CD set
with one CD the album and the other a track by track remix CD of E=MC2? In any case, I hope we don't get a re-release
that feature tracks such as the "remixes" for Bye Bye and IBLULT. Simply adding a rapper to an album version does not
make a remix. And where in the world is the remix single for IBLULT? At this point three years ago, we have the
singles out and three sets of remixes to enjoy. Just to compare, Madonna's Hard Candy came out right after E=MC2 and
I have two CD maxi singles with tons of remixes. All I have from Mariah right now is the promo CD of TMB which is
great, but it's been so long now that I want more. Mariah used to be so much more invloved and on top of the remix
game, I just don't understand things right now. I understand she has her personal life, but like the rest of us, she
has to balance her career as well. Please don't think I am not a fan because I am. I only wanted to say what was on my
mind. Still a big fan of Migrate, hope it's the next single, with some killer remixes.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 3:25) |
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Are we going to pick a download day for IBLULT? (21,782)
by Stephen from the USA
We need to help it boost on the charts and I think if we all buy like 50 or more copies all in one week it will really
help. I will buy 100, but we all need to be on the same page and decide on a day.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 3:22) |
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E=MC2 (21,781)
by Bobby from San Antonio
I am tired of all the complaining. Mariah has done more to promote this album than just about any other artist ever
does. As fans I know she has set our standards high, but come on. I personally don't agree with the single choices,
I hate the way she married Nick, but its really not about that. She is still out there making music and staying
relevant. For those of you who say E=MC2 isn't as good as TEOM, I have to disagree. Other than WBT and DFAU, Stay
The Night and One And Only and Joyride are the jams, but really Your Girl? That dumb song with Nelly? The rest doesn't
compare to E=MC2. I think that it leaps and bounds ahead of TEOM. The lyrics are better, more clever, she sounds way
more comfortable singing these songs than she has for awhile and her voice is 10x stronger than TEOM era. Anyway, I
think we should be happy with what we got, cause it's pretty darn good. Oh and why are we even talking about a
re-release right now? Seriously, lets talk about something fun like the tour instead of crying because we wanted a
different single. Thanks.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 3:13) |
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Radio play (21,780)
by Sal from the USA
Guys, lets continue requesting IBLULT. It is still increasing in plays CHR/Top 40 +323, Rhythmic +138, and Urban
+106. These categories provide the biggest impact for listener impressions, so keep requesting. I personally always
request it during rush hour to improve the listener impressions. Lets take it to #1. BTW if you don't like the rap
version than request the album cut.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 2:34) |
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Mariah font and album design (21,779)
by Bashful from the Philippines
I wrote about it last March, and everybody here thouht I was being silly. Now it almost seems I was right. The Mariah
font is a lucky charm, and it doesn't appear at all anywhere on the current album except the "Maroon Entertainment"
logo. At least with Merry Christmas and Charmbracelet, the song titles used the Mariah font. With Glitter, like E=MC2,
no Mariah font except her name. Also, I noticed that if Mariah's name appears below the album title, the album is not
a big seller like the other albums, like Glitter, E=MC2, Rainbow (the rainbow drawing appears above her name). If her
name appears alongside the album title, it is not a famous album, like Greatest Hits and The Remixes. If her name is
above the album title (with the exception of the debut, because it used her name), like Emotions, Music Box, Merry
Christmas, Daydream, Butterfly, TEOM, it is a blockbuster worldwide. It seems funny but history proved all this.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 1:45) |
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Mariah's father (21,778)
by Badr S. from Mexico
About Mariah's father last name, I'm pretty sure Mariah said during an interview that her grandmother married a man
named Carey, so the last name is authentic. All this is a little bit tricky.
(Tuesday August 19, 2008; 0:57) |
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| Webmaster: According to an article in Latina magazine, Mariah's Venezuelan grandfather changed his
last name when he moved to the United States (see: Mariah Carey
helps dad trace roots). So his real name was Nuñez, but he changed it to Carey before he married Mariah's
grandmother. |
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And please give me a re-release (21,777)
by TJ from Norway
I just love them. (They can also release the CB tour DVD if you ask me.)
(Monday August 18, 2008; 23:44) |
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Sal and E=MC2 (21,776)
by TJ from Norway
That's because she's almost 100. Lol. We have all talked about why the album is failing
in the charts. I think there is a curse over all of Mariahs albums that don't have the
"Mariah Carey" font. (That was kind of a joke, but it has happened every time since
2000.) One reason that IBLYLT has failed must be that stupid rap version. The song was
like a million times better without it. When I hear the original, I feel the urge to
dance, have a drink, get some sun. But with the rap version, I just want to turn the
volume down. Peace everyone.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 23:43) |
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Re: encyclopaedia (21,775)
by Ann from the USA
Clarification. Both of Mariah's parents were born in the USA she has always said this.
Her grandparents may have been born somewhere else.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 23:17) |
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| Webmaster: I've changed the first paragraph to: "Alfred Roy was Mariah's
father. His family name is Nuñez (some sources say his name is Nunes). After his
family immigrated from Venezuela to the United States, his father American-ized his
name to Carey because it was easier to pronounce. He married an African American girl
who was born in Alabama. Alfred Roy was born in 1929." |
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Re-release (21,774)
by Ryan from NYC
Oh hell no, I cannot believe some "lambs" in here don't want a re-release. I agree with
whoever said that all numbers aside, it's awesome to have new material in between studio
albums. I for sure will buy the re-release, and if it's kicked off with a hot new
unreleased single, it will get album sales higher. IDJ and Mariah need to really step
up and realize that with minimal promotion, projects don't get very far. Stop half
assing it and make it work.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 21:38) |
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Fans who don't want music? (21,773)
by Richard from So Cali
Randy, Tobby and the others who are so vehemently against a re-release, you guys need
to get your priorities straight. Personally, I am an MC fan first an foremost because
I love her music. I want to hear every song, every rare B-side and every remix. All
external distractions (sales, reviews, MC's personal life, charts) are suspended from
my mind when I listen, because those things don't matter, only the music does. With this
said, I just cannot every comprehend where you are coming from to not want new material
from Mariah. What are your problems? E=MC2 is an amazing album (one most critics and
fans considered better than TEOM, until it didn't sell as well), so why would you not
want to hear more songs from the same session?
(Monday August 18, 2008; 20:45) |
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I completely agree with Ericasharlette (21,772)
by Badr S. from Mexico
I completely agree with you. Although I do love many songs on E=MC2, I feel like it
lacks something. The art work is also a bit cheesy. I have nothing to say but good
things about "Migrate", "Side Effects", "I Wish You Well", "Touch my Body," "O.O.C.",
"I Stay In Love" (although I do not consider this one single material), and "For the
Record". The only thing I find annoying is J.D's voice in almost every single track he
produced. I really hope the label will pick the right singles this time.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 18:22) |
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I agree with Randy (21,771)
by Tobby from Canada
Musically E=MC sqaured is not in the same league as TEOM. She should not re-release this album even for a chance at
another #1 hit. She should go back to the drawing board, work with some real musicans (like herself) and produce
something never been done before. In the mean, release I Stay In Love or Migrate as the next single.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 14:05) |
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I know this reference is old news but I still had to share (21,770)
by Alexis from the USA
Ok, Chante Moore had a song stolen from her for J.Lo too. On YouTube look up: "Chante Moore: P. Diddy stole my hit
song for J.Lo" or go to YouTube and look up /watch?v=jc208ExpyMQ. Dang it almost seems her whole career was stolen
from other talented artists.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 10:36) |
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Attention everyone (21,769)
by Nattalie from the USA
I was just wondering if bits of your comments were being deleted because mine are and I'm trying to find out why.
Especially with comment 21,751 because I surely was not done with my 2 cents. Those dots at the end was not a part
of what I said because I said a lot more than that to get my point across and it didn't get posted.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 7:24) |
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| Webmaster: Insults to Mariah and other fans, sentences with only capitals and swaering are removed. |
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TJ and Ronald (21,768)
by Sal from the USA
TJ, you could have picked any video from Madonna and none of them show any great dance skill. 4 Minutes proves my
point, she really could have gotten down and tried breakin' or at least a cool choreography but now, she gives you
a simple grape vine step and spreading her legs. If you call that real dancing you really need to expand your
understanding of dancing. Like I said, her and Mariah have the same dancing skill ability and Mariah is for sure got
her beat on singing. Ronald, yes I know that Madonna went to dancing school, but she also took singing lesson and it
doesn't take a trained ear to tell you her singing is horrible, hell even JLo said Madonna couldn't sing and we all
know JLo is just as tone-death. In short, I don't care if she went to dance school, she obviously didn't make it as
a dancer cause she ain't good. She must have taken dancing 50, 75, 80, 85, and 90 but never made it through to dancing
101. Lol. Boy you need to really be crazy if you think that "The Girlie Show" proves that she can dance. If anything,
that concert proves my point, she can sway her hips, prince around and slither up and down a pole, but it doesn't
prove she can keep up with a choreographed routine. You should really look at any of Janet, Michael Jackson, Paula
Abdul, or Ciara concerts to understand what being able to dance really means, then you come back here an apologize for
being so stupid.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 6:48) |
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Next single not digitally? (21,767)
by Michiel from Belgium
If you don't release the single digitally (iTunes) or whatnot, it will never hit the top 10. Digitally sales are way
more important than a cd single in the shop. Your idea is really not good lol. And if you don't release it digitally
all the people will get it anyway, in an illegal way.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 6:37) |
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Ian, Up (21,766)
by Sal from the USA
Hey Ian, thanks for the info, but only some of it is correct. You are correct with the fact that the "Up" album by
Shania counts for two sales instead of one. It sold over 7.5 million which Nielson counted as over 15 million copies
because it's two for one. I'll say it again, the RIAA, which certifies albums for shipments not sales, only does it
once. The company pays them for the certification. This was also explained to me by the Billboard staff. They stated
that an album could have sold five million copies but if the label didn't pay the RIAA to certify it, they never
would.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 6:32) |
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Ken, worldwide sales (21,765)
by Sal from the USA
Ken, you really are getting desperate to try to prove your point. It really just makes me laugh. I recently asked the
Billboard staff if there was a real way to track worldwide albums sales, their response was no. They mantioned that
Orion tracks some of the more advanced cities in Asia like Japan, Nielson Soundscan tracks most of North America. Some
European countrys only track shipments sort of like the RIAA but not real sales. So that site you mentioned is a
desperate move to prove that you don't lie, perhaps you really don't think you lie, you just don't know any betther.
In the USA we call that ignorance, but being ignorant doesn't make you correct. Oh and BTW, TEOM sold over 10 million
albums world wide, some publications say 12 million, but I am going to go with what Billboard report because they're
the most trusted. If TEOM sold close to 6 million in the USA that would mean 4 million came from other countries,
hmmm, how does that not make Mariah a world wide star? Oh yeah, that would prove you wrong, once again.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 6:26) |
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Re-release (21,764)
by Ericasharlette from London, UK
Hey lambchops. Well I can't say I'm overjoyed about it when my broke ass already bought 2 - pricey Japanese import
included however. I do tend to agree with something someone said on here a few months back, that as great as nearly
all the tracks are, compared to TEOM, E=MC2 is missing something, and that makes for an overall disjointed effect
album-wide. Now I personally don't see why, with 22+ tracks originally slated to appear on this album, we can't get
another 4-6 to change its shape. Frankly I remember watching MCC on Ellen last November when she was talking about
trimming the album down, thinking "Err, why?" A good 17-19 track album is what I affectionately refer to as Value For
Money. With the preposterous increase in cd prices over the years I feel cheated with only 12 tracks, barely placated
14 and minimally satisfied with 15. Call me stingy but I just like my pennies to mean something hunnies. So, the long
and short of it is, I would buy a re-release provided there's a decent number of bonus tracks that aren't just
previously-released single remixes. Also, the artwork was a little (meaning muchly) weak. Not Mariah's fault, she did
explain it. I wouldn't be mad at seeing a new theme entirely actually, one more befitting the title. Our girl wanted
to rock the feather boa, cool, but how about "the boa moment" being the core from which layered, rainbow coloured,
light refractions silhouette "the many factors in the equation of Mariah"? Now that'd be hott.
(Monday August 18, 2008; 1:05) |
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"Diva" term (21,763)
by Billy from Greece
I was actually just thinking about posting this message before I saw the one by SJL. I was wondering since when do
you think the term "diva" started to really be attached so intensely to Mariah?
(Monday August 18, 2008; 0:38) |
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Ken-Li (21,762)
by D.G. from the UK
I was listening to the Greatest Hits today and I really started to laugh when Without
You came on all I could hear was "I Ken Li-iiiiiiiiiiiii if liv-or-wiv-wi-o-uuuuuuuuu".
Haha. But the funniest thing is , I was imagining if I couldnt speak or understand
English and I just heard this amazing voice but couldn't tell the words I'd probably
sing something similar.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 21:59) |
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Biography update (21,761)
by TP from the US of A
The bio section on this site is very specific and details every important occurrence
in Mariah's life, but halts at her struggle with her record company at the time, so
maybe after E=MC2 subsides, there can be a continuation up to most current point in her
life. Thank you MCArchives.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 20:23) |
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Diva-ness (21,760)
by SJL from the UK
I just find the whole celeb "being a diva" thing makes me feel really uneasy. I've
tended to find that the term is often just a celeb's (and/or their entourage's) way of
excusing their own mistreatment of others and it's quite distasteful. There are plenty
of extraordinarily talented female musicians out there who can be classed as divas (in
the original sense of the word) but who don't abuse the term and who have enormous
respect across the board because of it. I work as an events coordinator organising
primarily celeb signings and have had plenty of experience of this kind of thing in my
time. Mariah has her moments of wonderful kindness and generosity but sadly these are
often overshadowed by supposed "diva-ishness" behaviour. The story I was referring to
in my previous post re: being rigid and demanding seemed to clearly be in the context
of "being a diva", although I am hoping that it was just put that way by the interviewer
and maybe MC was referring to other things. However, I don't want to be an all-accepting
optimist - I don't believe that a fan should just accept everything their favourite star
says and does because the person is their favourite star. It helps to keep an open mind
and a sense of reason rather than being a "fan at all costs".
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 19:30) |
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Cruise Control (21,759)
by Alain from the Philippines
I think this should be the 4th single or a new one which will be included on the
re-release album. IBLULT will make it to the Top 40 especially when the remix winner
is announced. I hope IDJ will make it available as a CD single and not available
digitally and sales help the single to skyrockets to the top of Billboard Hot 100. What
do you think fellow lambs?
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 18:20) |
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Encyclopaedia (21,758)
by Angela from San Jose, California
Yes, it is a very nice edition. I have a question though Eric. The story on Mariah's
father states that he was born in Venezuela. Is that true? I'm asking because I know
Mariah's grandmother, who is African American, was born in Alabama. Also, I thought
I heard Mariah state in an interview on Univision that her Venezuelan grandfather had
migrated to the US and that is when he changed his last name from Nunez to Carey, and
married her grandmother. I'm confused. Hopefully you can clarify that.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 18:13) |
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| Webmaster: There is not much info on where Mariah's father was born.
Wikipedia only says "Afro-Venezuelan descent" and Chris Nickson's biography only
says "African American and Venezuelan descent". Marc Shapiro's biography says that
in the late forties and early fifties, many families immigrated from Venezuela
to the United States. It's not certain when the family immigrated, but if they also
immigrated during this time, that means that Mariah's father was born in Venezuela. |
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MCA Encyclopaedia (21,757)
by Bashful from the Philippines
This is a great addition. Thanks, Eric.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 14:45) |
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To Toby who said" "it's pointless to do a re-release" (21,756)
by Harry B from the US
There is a point to re-release. Here's what: These days, an album only has a shot for
attention for a few months. After that, people starts to download them illegally. This
is the reality of music industry today (hell, all the songs in the album are on Youtube,
yet Mariah and co. did nothing about it). Now, if she puts out a re-release (and
hopefully a solid single), there's a bigger chance for another no.1, because there's a
"surge" of buying fans who don't have the song yet, and a hit song, esp. a no.1 song,
drives album sales. A new song has greater chance to be a it, than any song currently
on the album. That's because the ratio of charting Billboard favors sales, and right
now, each song on the album have already been bought a million times each (I'm going
by the fact that the album has sold more than 1 million so far), and that excludes
illegal downloads, which is probably twice that much. I think likelyhood of people
buying the album now because of Migrate and I Stay In Love is super slim. They might
gain strong radio impact, but I doubt sales will be strong. Look at what's happening to
IBLYLT. It's already top 40 on Mediabase, yet the single isn't even in the top 150 in
iTunes. And you know what, Mariah isn't only an artist, she's a shrewd businesswoman
and she knows this.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 12:50) |
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No re-release (21,755)
by Randy from the USA
It keeps coming up and I cannot say it enough. A re-release is a desperate attempt to
grasp for sales in a market that is dying. I think E=MC2 may be done and MC's probably
fine with that. I think there are many singles left on the album but whomever said the
album is over exposed at this point is correct. The problem with a re-release is that
if the single flops IDJ will have a major problem on their hands. I refuse to buy
another copy of E=MC2, I will illegally download the new songs. MC might have to take a
break and come back in a few years with another album. I would like to see her continue
in that soulful retro 70's r&b groove direction TEOM was taking her in, exemplified by
songs like Mine Again, Circles, I Feel It, Fly Like A Bird. This album I feel was a step
back in maturity almost in attempt to avoid a sophmore jinx. MC is not on her second
album, she's on her 12th so I'd like to see something that is more adult, less focused
on hit ringtones. I'm not saying that's why the album didn't do well, I still believe it
has more to do with the industry. Same producers producing everything and people are
tired of the get me a hit now mentality, people want artistry and that may be what the
buyers are holding out for.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 10:26) |
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Madonna (21,754)
by Nattalie from the USA
I read that one of you all thought that she can dance. [...] But I have to give her
props, she would make a great pole dancer. I watched her on YouTube to give her a
chance and I was disgusted. I don't know if it's because I'm a female or what. I felt
very uncomfortable and if anyone walked in on me watching this I would feel terrible.
I wanted to rip out my eyeballs. And I started to imagine Mariah dancing like that and
I felt like throwing up. I started to thank God that she doesn't dance. My goodness, if
I saw Mariah ever dancing like that then I would definitely hunt her down. I would say
something else but you all seem sensitive lately so I'll keep it on the PG-13 side.
[...] I felt sick. Tell me what you all think. Look, all I have to say is that if you
want a real performance with dancing, watch Beyonces "get me bodied live" on YouTube.
You know, the Beyonce experience concert.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 7:01) |
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Re: Demanding to SJL (21,753)
by Nattalie from the USA
What she was probably saying was that she lets things pass by to easily instead of
caring. Just like when it came to her previous husband. She probably cared about how
he made her feel (which was miserable) and she didn't take things in her own hands and
made him stop doing whatever he was doing a long time ago. That was an example just to
let you know. I never thought of it the way you were thinking because I guess I am a
little optimistic about things.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 6:26) |
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Re: Tony Scicca from Australia (21,752)
by Ken from Australia
Hi there Tony. Yes this is a legit site run by the VGC Group. They do officially have
tracked the worldwide sales of all artists since 1998 (before that there's no absolute
way to track this, that's why some numbers turned out to be less than the estimation
before). It is based on the the sales reports of those countries that are shipped, and
no, it's not some bootleg list that someone post up for their favorite songs or so.
Worldwide sales for each album of Mariah or other artists can be found at "worldwide
sales archives" --> "worldwide sales (a-z list)", then you just Ctrl+F to see, and
compare her sales with others for yourself. Regarding the top 500, 600 songs, because
this is a worldwide fact, information are still being collected. But I can understand
why Mimi is not on the list. She is not a worldwide artist. Example in the UK, she only
has 2 No.1's, she's not that popular in other European countries either. She may be on
top of every list of the RIAA but she does not have that many worldwide hits.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 6:26) |
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| Webmaster: "We belong together" was number 1 in the USA, Australia,
Canada, Brazil, Croatia, and South-Africa; number 2 in the UK, the Netherlands, New
Zealand, and the Philippines; number 3 in Ireland and Denmark; and number 4 in
Switzerland. So I would count this a worldwide hit. I don't take the list serious
either. Mariah is not on the list, nor Madonna. But Rammstein is on the list twice
with the same song. |
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Moute (21,751)
by Nattalie from the USA
Ok, I see what you mean. You do have the freedom to say what you want to say and I was
givin my 2 cents because I have the freedom to say what I want to. You can either take
the songs off the net or leave them. [...]
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 6:05) |
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Che (21,750)
by Ann from the USA
You told me not to pay much attention to Page 6, yet you just said you don't read it,
huh? The pix on MariahDaily of her in Capri on the boat didn't have any smiles but the
party ones showed her happy. If there's a site where she's in Capri smiling I'd love to
see it. Where are the photos? I hope we see her soon singing.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 3:52) |
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Re: Moute (21,749)
by Che from the United States
You're right, you can complain about things you don't like. I never said you couldn't
but seeing as how she's been in this industry almost 20 years and the procedure for
bonus tracks hasn't changed, it's kinda like crying over spilt milk. It makes no real
sense to but to each his or her own. As far as what you're reading she's having a
second and/or third wedding, most of those are rumours. Rumours she's addressed.
Everytime her and Nick go to an amusement park, dinner or vacation it's the "press"
claiming she's having another wedding. But tell me, have we seen pictures of another
wedding? No. Have we seen pictures of them out and about doing things that couples do?
Yeah. If that's trying to prove something to someone then that's news to me. The funny
thing is Mariah as far as the vacations and things isn't really doing stuff she didn't
do before, it's just now the focus is more heightened of it and the press automatically
attaches it to her recent marriage.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 0:58) |
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Re: Correction Billboard Artist of the Decade (21,748)
by Angela from San Jose, California
Well thank Mark for your clarification. I knew that but obvioulsy some fans didn't know
the difference between the Billboard Artist of the Decade award and the WMA. So I'm
assuming Michael Jackson beat out Garth Brooks because Garth's world wide sales weren't
as much as MJ's. Makes sense.
(Sunday August 17, 2008; 0:45) |
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Ken, worldwide albums? (21,747)
by Tony Scicca from Australia
Hey Ken, how are you? Listen, I went to this site that you suggested, but couldn't find
anything at all that made much sense. I went to where it said "top songs of the 90's"
and in the 574 listed songs they had suggested there was not one Mariah song. Personally
I don't think that this is a ligit site, just someone who made a list of there own fav
songs. And yes, they have 574 to be exact, not top 600 or top 500, just 574 exactly. I
believe if it were a ligit site they would have made it more believeable. It is known
that Mariah was the biggest artist of the 90's and in this list not one of her songs?
She had 14 number one songs in the 90's in America (Thank God I Found You went to number
one in February 2000) and numerus worldwide hits but still she couldn't have one of them
go in the top "574". She musn't be the artist I thought she was.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 23:07) |
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Natalie, Che from the USA? (21,746)
by Moute from the USA
I'm sorry if I struck a nerve with both of you but if you dont like the comments that
I posted on here it's not my problem. This message board is for Mariah fans and if I'm
angry about Mariah not releasing bonus material it's my problem, not yours, ok? I don't
think it's right every time Mariah releases an album outside the USA she always adds
bonus material. Even if the songs suck or not, we should be able to have the same kind
of songs as everyone else. The reason that I said Mariah Carey about repeating her
nuptial is because everytime I'm on the web that's all I read online. What is she trying
to prove to the public/media? I don't see anyone in the entertainment field getting
married or re-married? As for her albums sales, poor song choices as singles were the
key problems. Too bad. By the way Natalie, learn how to spell my name correctly if you
can.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 21:59) |
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Re: Ann (21,745)
by Che from the United States
I don't read Page 6 Ann, so I don't know what they siad about the VMAs. Yeah, the pics
I saw were from another site and I also did see the ones on MDJ also and she's smiling
in like 3 of those.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 20:55) |
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VJ, pics (21,744)
by Special K from California
VeliJames wrote, "Nice comeback. Yay you. Your scathing remarks about Wikipedia remind
of the adage 'one man's terrost is another man's freedom figher'. The great people of
Wikipedia use terminology like, citation needed, on information whose sources can't be
trusted or isn't legit, whose the dumbo now?" Oh wow. That was my point. Well, at least
Wikipedia is admitting now that alot of the sources they use can't be trusted. It wasn't
like that before. They probably were getting alot of complaints. Looking over Mariah's
page it appears that they have stepped up their game. Honestly, I didn't see anything
that stated Mariah had sold 40 million albums this decade. Maybe I missed it or perhaps
they removed it? So who is the dummy now? Let's see, neither one of us. Just two
passionate fans that viewed a subject differently. Moving on. Mariah's pics from the LA
Reid party are just awesome. She looks great. Love the dress and shoes. She and Nick
look very happy.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 19:20) |
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No re-release (21,743)
by Tobby from Canada
It's pointless to do a re-release for the album. It's not like a re-release will
magically sell five million more copies. She would still have to promote it and work
really hard at getting the new song heard. So why can't she just do that with Migrate
or I Stay In Love? Whatever the next single is, it has to be sung on late night talk
shows and day time talk shows and any show that will listen. Bottom line, she has enough
songs on this album that could be hits, she doesn't need a re-relase, she just needs to
get out there and sing the next single.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 16:45) |
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Disappointed (21,742)
by SJL from the UK
How can anyone possibly laugh about being so "rigid" and "difficult"? And then to say
that she's not demanding enough is incomprehensible. It just shows a complete lack of
respect, as well as an abuse of power and fame. Is it any wonder that she receives so
much criticism when she happily states these kinds of things on a whim and thinks it's
so funny? I've been a huge fan for 16 years but if she did actually say these things
I'm absolutely appalled.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 15:26) |
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US sales is not the most important anymore (21,741)
by Ken from Australia
Nowadays. A lot of people here forgot the fact that there is still the rest of the
world, not just US, US sales has in fact been down the toilet in the last couple of
years. Say the strongest selling album in the US right now is The Carter III by Lil
Wayne, is it on top of the worldwide chart, No, Coldplay's Viva La Vida is. Madonna's
Confessions On A Dance Floor sold only 1.7M in the US, so it is a complete flop? No,
it sold 9 millions worldwide in total, which is just equivalent to TEOM. I guess the
fact the US has the most advanced technology, that's why people don't buy albums
anymore, and download them instead. Outside US, sales are pretty still healthy. It's
just that Mimi still sells well in the US only, and doesn't have the worldwide appeal
like the Musicbox/Daydream anymore. So stop bashing on other female artists that don't
have strong sales in the US, image one day if Mariah can't sell in the US, what would
she has got left?
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 13:26) |
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Re: Sal from the USA (21,740)
by Ken from Australia
Gosh, did you read carefully? I was talking about worldwide sales of Britney and Madonna,
and then you responded with the USA sales and called me liar, watch your words. Do me a
favor, have a look at the ladies' worldwide sales (www.worldwidealbums.net), not just
the US sales, and that makes a big difference. Mariah US sales might be quite decent
this decade, but her total worldwide sales can't be compared that of Britney, Christina,
or even Madonna.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 13:11) |
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Che (21,739)
by Ann from the USA
Thanks for the advice re: Page 6, but they were right about the VMA's, weren't they?
Also I was commenting on the photos (as seen on MariahDaily) of her in Capri. But I
just saw the posed photos from the party, she looked glam.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 11:44) |
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Sal (21,738)
by Ronald from the Philippines
My advice to you is to watch Madonna's Ciao Italia Live in Italy and The Girlie Show
Live Down Under concert dvds and then come back here and tell me she cannot dance. How
young are you that you're so ignorant that you just open your mouth without thinking.
She studied dance formally so she knows the fundamentals. Did the names you mentioned
studied the art of dance and could they move the way Madonna did in the dvds I asked
you to watch? Just like Mariah, Madonna has paid her dues that's why they're still here.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 10:01) |
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Sal from the USA / Shania Twain's Up (21,737)
by Ian from JB, Malaysia
From Wikipedia: The RIAA certified the album at 11x platinum, denoting shipments of 5.8
million in the United States. Since it is over 100 minutes in length, the RIAA counted
each disc separately for certification purposes. As of 2007 Up! has sold 15 million
copies worldwide. Up is a double disc album.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 5:47) |
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VMA's (21,736)
by Jewel from the US
Mariah is still nominated for best female artist (I think thats what it's called). But
whatever. I know she is, those are the final nominies so she's not out yet. I don't
understand how she didn't make the nomination for video of the year, but whatever.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 4:41) |
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Sal, are you kidding me? (21,735)
by TJ from Norway
I think that you should join me on the next concert I join. If you look at Madonna's
Vogue, you see that she doesn't dance a lot, but she got the rythm, and she doesn't try
to be sexy all the time. Mariah's strenght is her voice, period.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 3:55) |
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Biggest fan (21,734)
by Sparkle Ferry from the U.K.
I just found this fabulous web site. I have been the biggest fan like forever. Where
have you all been? Some of you just do not sound like real fans. I mean it. I love the
new album (what's the name of it?). I have been away, way away. I mean so far away. But
I heard alot of the songs out there and I truly do love them. If you think that you are
a bigger fan than I, than you just have not met me. I would love to hear your response
on the new man in Mariah's life (they say they are extremely happy). I am looking
forward to your responses. Much love to all. Peace.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 3:53) |
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Another female singer who has sold over 200 million albums (21,733)
by TJ from Norway
Nana Mouskouri. This was well known in the early 90's by her record company.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 3:49) |
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TJ (21,732)
by Sal from the USA
Regarding Mariah's dancing in videos, I agree she is not the most gracefull, but to say
that Madonna can dance is plain wrong. I've never seen Madonna get down like Janet,
Paula Abdul, Beyonce, Ciara or anyone else that can really dance. All Madonna ever does
is the same thing Mariah does; a very simple routine where they swing their hips or
prince around a little bit, or some very simple steps. Other than that Madonna just
dances unchoreographed as if she was on a dance club. If you consider that good dancing
than I really do feel sorry for you and recomend you watch real dancers like Janet,
Ciara, Usher, Chris Brown, Paula Abdul, Michael Jackson, O'Marion, etc.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 1:24) |
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Ken, TJ (21,731)
by Sal from the USA
TJ, LMOA I apologize, I meant to write Ken in my last reply. Lol. Any hoot, Ken you
really don't know your facts and therefore please don't post false info. I have never
researched Britney before but here are the facts from Billboard which will prove that
you are simply lying and pulling number out your ass. Britney sold 10 million copies
prior to the year 2000 in the USA, not the 2 million that you mentioned. Also that same
album sold 3 more million in this decade. Her next album sold 9, the next one sold 4,
and there were no factual numbers for the next three albums she released but that's not
important because none were really succesful. From the different figures that I read
the last three added together sold around 3.5 million, that only totals 19.5. This is
hardley the number that you mention. As for Madonna, I won't waste my time on her, I
know her sales have been horrid in the USA and people always overinflate them worldwide.
As for Shania, I am not a fan of hers, but you are wrong about her too, her "Up" CD
alone sold 15 million copies in the USA, which pretty much almost equals Britneys whole
catalog. Norah Jones has also sold very well. So you are wrong and dishonest with your
posts, which is why this will be the last time I discuss this issue with you. There's no
point in argueing with liers.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 1:16) |
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Re: Ann (21,730)
by Che from the United States
You gotta be careful listening to Page 6 gossip. As far as the VMA's, it sucks she
wasn't nominated but who knows how many fans actually got to vote or knew to vote for
the video. She's smiling in the photos I've seen, so one would assume she's having a
flantastic time as she would say.
(Saturday August 16, 2008; 0:29) |
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Not that serious (21,729)
by Mimi from the USA
The reason overseas often get the bonus tracks is because of economic situations. I have
read the bonus tracks are included to spur sales of the international version of the
album. Local record companies need the success and several folks were buying the US
verison because of cost. To combat this, record companies add "add-ons" for
international versions. It is not to keep tracks from anyone. In this day and age, go
online and listen or buy the import.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 22:44) |
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Mariah's fragrance (21,728)
by Ethan Rogers from New Zelaland
I've personally smelt the Gold Edition of the "M" fragrance and it is stunning. It's a
stone winner. Please, smell it yourself, it's enough to make you go into heaven.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 22:41) |
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Re: VMA awards (21,727)
by Ann from the USA
Just read that Mimi didn't make the final cut. So sorry to hear that, hope she's
enjoying Capri. But I am confused. Thought she was renting a place in the Hamptons, but
whatever, guess she's having a good time with Nick. I saw pictures, I didn't see her
smiling tho but than these were all candid shots.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 22:12) |
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MTV (21,726)
by Nattalie from the USA
Is it just me or does MTV and the people that watch MTV not support MC at all? They
would mention her name for a brief second and that's it. According to Mariah Daily,
she hasn't even reached to the top 10 yet with IBLULT. Just wondering what you all
think.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 21:40) |
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Mount, for real please chill (21,725)
by Nattalie from the USA
What's with all the people just over reacting these days. Mount, the only thing your
post did was make a few people laugh because I surely did. Lol. The woman ain't
convincing nobody. And those bonus tracks suck anyways. I thank God she didn't put them
on there. If you really want them so bad, just get on YouTube and convert the videos
into mp3s. You just make a big deal out of nothing.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 21:33) |
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Re: Special K, sales (21,724)
by VeliJames from Swaziland
Nice comeback. Yay you. Your scathing remarks about Wikipedia remind of the adage "one
man's terrost is another man's freedom figher". The great people of Wikipedia use
terminology like, citation needed, on information whose sources can't be trusted or
isn't legit, whose the dumbo now? The paradox of Mariah, and most artists sales, was
mentioned in passing on the October
2005 issue of Esquire which had her on the cover
with the caption, "Mariah Carey, 233 million album buyers can't be wrong". I don't think
Mariah will get the artist of the decade but WBT will get the song of the decade award,
no other song has topped the Billboard hot 100 for more weeks, 14 weeks at pole
position, since One Sweet Day.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 17:39) |
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Special K, VeliJames, Sal and Nattalie (21,723)
by TJ from Norway
Lol. Britney, ha ha, yes you are right Special K (where did Sal get that from?), I didn't know I was a die hard-hard
core Britney fan until today. I have to run to the music store and buy all her albums. I too think that 40 million is
way too high. I don't have the facts, but I do know how to calculate. To VeliJames, I guess Mariah was the most
selling artist in the world back in the 90's, but she was not the most selling in the US. Believe me. Sal, I am no
Britney fan, but I do like my Madonna (and MC can't dance like her), and I do know what RIAA does. The numbers I gave
you about her back catalog was from Soundscan. You can find them on MariahDaily.com. They were US numbers only.
Nattalie, I do agree with you. Mariah is not a dancer and I would rather see her in a concert where she just stand
there and sing, than try to do some moves. Mariah got the most wonderfull voice, and that is what I want on a concert.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 17:07) |
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Re: Moute (21,722)
by Che from the United States
Please tell me how Mariah is trying to convince everyone she's happy in her marriage? She's had 1 wedding, that's it.
If they want to celebrate in other ways for the rest of the year that's their business. The media and paps are going
to be all up in her business no matter what she does, whether it's being married or walking her dog. In recent
interviews yeah, they ask her about Nick and being a new bride. She's happy and excited so she's going to talk about
him a little. That's normal. As far as the bonus material, only two songs were included as bonus on the UK and Japan
releases that I know of, which are Heat and 4Real4Real. She and/or the label may have felt that those wouldn't be as
well received and left them off. It's not like this is a new thing of her not including bonus songs on her U.S.
releasese, so why the complaint now? Obviously even if she doesn't include it, with the way things are nowadays you'll
still get to hear it and enjoy it or not. I'd hardly call all the music she's released here in the U.S. scraps. In
order for a unreleased materials album to happen, the label would have to think it lucrative and if it was left off
in the first place the chances of that happening are slim. Mariah may be the star but the label heads are still her
bosses.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 16:38) |
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IBLULT voting and promoting (21,721)
by Nattalie from the USA
Hey guys, just to let you all know I'm still getting on Yahoo and BET and to watch Yahoo's videos since you all say
it counts torwards Billboard, right? And I'm trying to just promote on BET 106 and Park by voting for her song so
people can know more about it and request it too. So far it's working, IBLULT is back up on #7 but we all know that
Mariah is more than a #7, she is a #1, so please take the time to vote. What I did was turned a song on and voted over
and over again till the song ended. For Yahoo, I selected watch Mariah's video and put up another tab till the video
was over. You don't have to watch it a thousand times, just make sure the video gets played a thousand times. Like
right now as I type the video is going on but I'm not watching, might of fact I even have the vol turned off. I just
get back to it every 4 minutes.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 15:49) |
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Next single, most played songs (21,720)
by Tony from the USA
So I voted Migrate for the next single, for the obvious reasons. Hey let's kick off a new (I think) topic: top 5 most
played MC songs on your iPod or iTunes or whatever player you got. Mine: Honey (remix with Puff and Mase), We Belong
Together, I Still Believe (Pure Imagination remix), Making It Last All Night (ft. JD), and There For Me. They all been
played between 440 and 495 times, lol. Share yours.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 14:02) |
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The album charts (21,719)
by Chris B from the UK
So sad to see MC at 60 this week down yet again. Will IBLULT ever crack the top 10? And Riannah at suprise suprise
No1 even though I really like Disturbia. Mariah needs to bring out some real big guns for the re-release. I feel that
no matter what she releases from this album now, it won't go anywhere as we have all heard the tracks a million times.
YouTube etc plus illegal downloads. I bet Mariah has lost hundreds of thousands of downloads to that. I think YouTube
is a blessing and a curse at the same time. Also, Madonna is out of the top 100 and the bloody Chipmunks are still
outselling her. What is that all about, who wants the Chipmunks? Mariah's album should still be top 10 at the least.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 13:33) |
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Killing two birds with one stone (21,718)
by Iwan from Indonesia
Hopefully the 4th single would be between "I Stay In Love", "Migrate", or "Cruise Control". Something that melodic
which non MC fans can enjoy and like it too. That way, maybe it will be huge and stay at the top spot for several
weeks like "We Belong Together" and indirectly boost up the sales of E=MC2. Just my random thoughts.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 10:13) |
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ISIL (21,717)
by Nattalie from the USA
What I think about that song is that it's good but it's a winter song because its' that time of the year when things
arent as bright and beautiful. It's a bland time of the year and it's perfect for later, not now. Side Effects should
do for later too. Just not now.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 8:08) |
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Migrate will get the job done (21,716)
by Nattalie from the USA
See, I think if songs like Lolly Pop can be a single than anything has the potential to be a single. I personally
think that ISIL would make a great single but not for now. People need and want a happy song or a good club song.
That's all they want, that's why TMB went sky high. It's a club song. No one wants a slow sad ballad in the summer
time. That's why Usher's In This Club is a hit, it's a club song. People want to dance these days. The younger
audiences want to get down low and dirty, they don't care about the quality of the song. They want something that
makes their car rumble and the bass as heavy as it can get. They want to snap and lean with it, rock with it and you
can do that to Migrate. They don't like what we like, they like fast simple and easy and thats Migrate. And T-Payne
is going to attract more attention too. Just about every song that he has done became No 1s or close. With Chris
Brown, Kanye West, the song Low, I'm So Hood and many more have gotten awards. Trust me, since he is getting that much
attention and working with our diva they have no option but to be no.1. It could fly up there faster than TMB or one
day later at most.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 7:59) |
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Calm down, Eva (21,715)
by Nattalie from the USA
It's ok girl, it's ok. You'll get there eventually. Well, I get on this site everyday and this is my first time seeing
you post something like this on this messageboard. Well, how many days have you been trying to do this because that
would really help me out. And just to let you know, I have been trying to get on that site too and I've been a member
already. It's just some weird things have been going on and I'm not able to get on. But what I had to do was get on a
different browser for some reason. Don't know why but that's what had happened. I usually have Mozilla Firefox and
it wouldn't let me so I got on to Internet Explorer and it finally adjusted or something. I'm not the only one having
problems because when I was on there some HBF members had said something was messed up on the forum area so who knows.
Just give it some time. Their problem and my problem are all fixed so yours might be too. But also you should check
and see if you're pop up blocker is on or off. If it's on then you should turn it off. You might see a gold bar at
the top or something it would say allow.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 7:16) |
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It doesn't matter anymore (21,714)
by Moute from the USA
It doesn't matter what single Mariah releases because her wedding overshadowed the release of her album. If Mariah
was smart she should've release Migrate as her first single but she's too busy trying to convince the media that
she's happily married to Nick Cannon, by repeating her nuptials over and over again. Stop trying so hard Mariah. I
don't want to sound hateful towards Mariah and her wedding to Nick Cannon but I'm so tired of Mariah giving her fans
scraps as music. What I mean by that is that why is it everytime she makes an album other countries get bonus
material? Huh, huh? She's more famous here than anywhere else, we the fans made her famous by buying her cd's. Not
other countries. If it wasn't for us she would probably still be picking up hair. When are the fans of the USA gonna
be able to hear all of her unreleased tracks that we don't get to hear? When is it our turn? I hope Mariah is planning
to release a double album with all the unreleased tracks that she ever made from her first album until now.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 7:15) |
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Correction: Billboard Artist of the Decade / Mariah (21,713)
by Mark from the USA
Artist of the decade isn't given for sales: it announced Mariah as the most successful artist of the decade (male or
female) based on chart accomplishments (Hot 100 and subsequent sales/airplay charts) and sales. If it was only for
sales, then Garth Brooks would have gotten it. Also, the award isn't divided by gender. Only one award is given to
the overall artist. With that said, I wouldn't say that Nora Jones nor Alicia Keys are strong contenders for the award
this decade (if Billboard decides to have a ceremony next year). According to a Billboard article just published, the
female artists with the most #1 so far this decade is a tie among Beyonce, Mariah, and Rihanna, each with 4 #1
singles. How each single performed is another story. I think overall, Beyonce's singles have performed better this
decade: "Crazy in Love", 8 wks at #1; "Baby Boy", 9 wks; "Check on It", 5 wks; "Irreplaceable", 10 wks) compared to
"Thank God I Found You", 1 wk, "WBT", 14 wks, "DFAU", 2 wks; "TMB", 2 wks. Also, none of these artists may even
receive the award, because we may be overlooking a few artists who also have strong sales and chart placements: Usher
(11 Billboard awards in 2004, has 7 #1s this decade, and is a strong seller), Kelly Clarkson, who has 11 Billboard
awards in 2005 and Justin Timberlake. Lastly, Mariah hasn't sold 40 million. Impossible. In 2000, everyone (including
Mariah) has been quoting total sales of 150 million. About a year ago, they said 160 million, not 200 million.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 6:37) |
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Re: TJ, VeliJames (21,712)
by Ken from Australia
You forgot that her title 'best selliing female artist of the 90's" was based on her worldwide sales over 100 million
from 1990 to 1999. And for this decade, she is no way near Britney, X-tina, or Norah. Britney first 2 albums sold 48
millions worldwide, in which 44 millions sold since 2000. Just because her sales has declined since 2003 does not mean
anyone can catch up with her sales yet. Madonna's Music sold 3 millions in the US but 11 millions worldwide,
Confessions On A Dance Floor sold 9 millions worldwide too, not to mention her greatest hits sold 7 millions, and
American Life still sold more than Charmbraclet. Shania only sold 7 millions for her Up! album. And of course, they
all have their back catalogue selling too. So by any mean, Mimi is still behind all these bitches no matter what,
Britney is 100% to take her title this time. For your information, check out the worldwidealbums.net for worldwide
albums. Sorry but the US sales has been down the toilet, and will be lower in the future, the worldwide sales is what
matters in the end.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 5:07) |
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Mimi's numbers / TJ (21,711)
by Special K from California
VeliJames wrote,"So, Special K, you can't just bop your head and go '40 million, WTF' or say off-the-top-of-your head
'15-20 million' sounds more apt, I stated my source, what is yours? 'Your imagination', lmao." Your source was
Wikipedia. One of the worst websites to get accurate information from. You should get slapped with dumb stick for
that. I prefer my imagination. 15-20 million sounds more logical to me. I'm sure it's more than 20 million but 40
million? If E=MC2 pulls TEOM numbers, and Merry Christmas sells million plus this year, then I could possibly see 30
million. So, the question is am I using my imagination or just good old fashion common sense? Dang TJ, I didn't know
you were a die hard Britney Spears/Madonna fan. Boy, you learn something new everyday, lol.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 1:56) |
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New artist of the decade (21,710)
by JK from the USA
Sadly, I don't think Mariah will have a chance against the bigger sellers of the decade. If only E=mc2 sold in the
level of TEOM, maybe she would. Then again, the re-release might just push her further. I don't think Britney is
getting it either. My greatest fear is Eminem, who is currently the top-selling album seller of the decade. It would
be hilarious if Mariah personally hands down the award to him.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 1:52) |
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Migrate should be the next single (21,709)
by Lee from the UK
I feel Migrate should be the next single. I think it should have been the lead single from the album, but better late
than never. It would give the album sales that extra boost they need. It's musically different from any other Mariah
song and this will make people think E=MC2 is not the same old Mariah. The re-issue of the album should definitley be
accompanied by a powerful single and I think that this is the most attention grabbing on the album.
(Friday August 15, 2008; 0:34) |
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Re: Next single / Mimi sales (21,708)
by Music Fan from CA
JohnC, you've succeeded on convincing me that ISIL is not single material. People will
definitely dismiss it as a new version of WBT. Plus if she releases "I Stay In Love" as
the fourth single, it will seem ironic and funny that the previous single was called
"I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time", ahahaha. I guess "Side Effects" is the best choice even
though it's not one of my personal favorites. One of the main reasons is the lack of
chemistry or even a link between Mariah and Young Jeezy. But anyways, I feel like Mariah
would like to release a ballad as the fourth single, perhaps "Love Story"? I personally
don't find that song single material at all. I have to yet disagree with you about
"Migrate" not being single material. That song will like literally debut at number one
with a hot video if released. I know a lot of none-fans that like the song and the song
already charted (reached #92 on Billboard 100) around the time of E=MC2's release I
guess. Terna, TEOM sold 10 million copies worldwide (not 20 million), and that's
official.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 21:58) |
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TJ, VeliJames (21,707)
by Sal from the USA
TJ, the source for the 6 million sales of Mariah's back catalog is Billboard and the
title of the article back in 2001 was "Carey cashed in the holiday's". They wrote the
article because of the impressive feat. I didn't say that she continued to sell 6
million of back catalog each year after that, but I did state and implied that her back
catalog sells very strong. So 40 million worldwide is not so far fetched. I get that you
are a die hard Britney, Madonna fan but, those too will not be included in this decade
cash cows, for the USA. Britney's big sales came in the late 90's and since 2002 her
albums have not sold much in the USA. For Madonna, beside her Music CD, which barely
sold 2 million, nothing has really sold in the USA. Those two will not be in the top
selling female category for the decade. Like I said before, it will be between Shania,
Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, and Mariah. The "Female artist of the decade award" was given
to Mariah by Billboard for having sold more album copies than any other female artist
in the 90's. The artist of the millenium award was given to her by the World Music
Awards for having sold more albums than any other female artist in the millenium. You
are getting those two awards confused. TJ also, certifications from RIAA are not given
to the CD based on the actual sales, they are given based on shipments. Also, the RIAA
doesn't automatically put them up, the artist's label has to purchase the certifications
from the RIAA so if Sony/Columbia don't want to spend money on buying the certifications
for MC, you will never see them. VeliJames, you are so funny about MC reading this
site. Guys, I don't think Mariah reads this site. Although I agree that someone from
her entourage might. But if you really read the article you will see that she said
"dancing" sarcastically. Just like when she was saying that she is a "math genius" which
is why she chose the title for the album. I do think that she can get down though. There
was a video circulating the net back in the Glitter era, where they caught her dancing
drunk at a club and yeap, she can get low, low, low.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 20:47) |
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Next single (21,706)
by Michiel from Belgium
Give up on I'll be loving you long time, the airplay will not grow over 40 million
impressions, that's for sure. I also think "Side effects" would be the best single,
all my non Mariah fans friends think so. It's fresh, it's new, it's deep, it's
different, it's a serieus side of Mariah. Not the "stupid" Mariah, believe it or not,
much people are seeing Mariah as a stupid person. Side Effects could change her image,
and that's what everyone is waiting for. I Stay In Love, though a nice song, is an
ordinary Mariah dedicated to love ballad. Migrate is good but not groundbreaking. I
really wish Side Effects is the next single.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 20:45) |
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Next single choice (21,705)
by JohnC from the USA
Side Effects could be to Mariah what No More Drama was to Mary J Blige. It is a truly
powerful song, and very different from anything she's ever done. I Stay In Love is nice,
but it is not single material. Only the fans would request it or download it, the
general public will dismiss it as another Mariah attempt to recapture the We Belong
Together magic. Side Effects could have a very visually powerful video where Mariah
wouldn't need to be all about the bathing suits and could put her acting chops to the
test. It'll make people take her seriously. Call it a hunch, call it gas, call it
whatever you may, but I have a feeling that Side Effects would be huge for her. And
Migrate is good but it is definitely not single material either. Again, something only
the fans would go for. The general public would see it as MC trying way too hard, as
they don't understand her sense of humor like we do.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 18:05) |
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The next Mariah (21,704)
by Yve from the USA
That's so funny Charice Pempengico was brought up. The first time I heard her, I figured
if anyone would ever even come close to Mariah's vocals it would be her. Especially
after I heard her sing Through The Rain. The so-called "Next Mariah" is not just someone
who can sing, like Leona, but someone special like Charice.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 17:30) |
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Re: 40 million (21,703)
by Terna from Nigeria
"The Emancipation of Mimi" has sold half of 40 million (20 million) worldwide so how is
it not possible that she has sold up to 40 or more?
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 16:01) |
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Plank of wood (21,702)
by Lee from the UK
In all honesty, I think Mariah looks like a plank of wood when she tries to dance. I
would rather go to a concert and just watch her sing, afterall that's why I like her,
for her voice not the way she moves. I could also do without all the stage histrionics
aswell. Someone please just give her a microphone and that will suit me down to the
ground.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 11:38) |
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Another no. 1 hit plus dancing (21,701)
by Mae from the Philippines
I still believe that EMC2 will have at least another no. 1 hit. I'm very positive. And what's wrong with how MC
dances? It's just alright. For me, it's never been a big deal. She can dance but of course not the J.Lo/Beyonce
dance but the bottomline is she's dancing just fine and sexy (my bro likes it) and she's more focused with her
singing anyway. To Webmaster, do you maintain a CMS for your site? Do you program/develop/manage all these by
yourself? I'm impressed. It's neat, fast to load and straight forward, good content organization and user design
too. This is the only MC site I regularly go to. The other one is MariahDaily only if there aren't much update in
your site. Cheers.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 9:20) |
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| Webmaster: Yes, there is a CMS for this site. I've developed and programmed it myself. |
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IBLULT #61 (21,700)
by Music Fan from CA
I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time moves up on the Billboard 100 and is now at #61. Yay.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 5:20) |
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RE: Tony, TJ and Special K (21,699)
by VeliJames from Swaziland
Tony, I am truly sorry at my impertinence, I wasn't out to demean you, I was merely defending the honor of the queen
of my heart. My sincere apologies again. TJ, as far as the record sales thing goes, it all depends on where you get
your figures from. Mariah, again depending on where you get your figures from, has sold any where from 160 to 235
million records the world over. What Sal said doesn't sound inconceivable to me, far from it, I was darn serious when
I said a Mariah Carey album is bought every three seconds according to a VH1 feature called "20 Things You didn't Know
About Mariah Carey". For the longest time Michael Jackson's Thriller was said to be the best selling LP of all time,
which it is, with over 50 records sold (Billboard, Guinness Book of World Records, etc), fast forward to 2008 when the
Thriller 25th anniversary Lp was released that figure had more than doubled, how in the ham sandwich could that be
when he is supposed to be struggling record-sales wise, well, it all goes back to what I aforestated. So, Special K,
you can't just bop your head and go "40 million, WTF" or say off-the-top-of-your head "15-20 million" sounds more apt,
I stated my source, what is yours? "Your imagination", lmao. Finally, TJ, Mariah was the top selling artist of the
90s in the US and the world, Her Billboard Artist Of The Decade Award and World Music Awards (1998 Legend and 200
Female Artist of The Century) are authentication of that.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 3:32) |
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RE: Sal JLP (21,698)
by VeliJames from Swaziland
Funny you should say that. I was on Amazon today reading customer reviews for Usher's Here I Stand, after that I
unwittingly ended up reading reviews for Leona's Spirit. It was like the memo said "put down Mariah in order to
bring up Leona". Leona is a decent singer and all but come on, at best, and I'm being gracious here, she has a range
closer to two octaves. To compare her to Mariah "note for note, breath for breath, caterwaul to caterwaul, and coo
to coo", as one reviewer did, is preposterous to say the least, especially to a singer whose range is more three time
hers. Before it rains, there are singers that I'm more accepting of when such comparisons are drawn like
diva-in-waiting Charice Pempengco (just saw her on Oprah, my jaw dropped, she sang Whitney's I Have Nothing in a tone
that would have Whitney going "why did I ruin my voice with all that coke" lol, Christina whatever anybody's opinion
of her, that girl can sing, Jennifer Hudson, she left me floored with her rousing rendition of AITYINL on Dreamgirls,
I'm loving her single Spotlight albeit not as much as stone-winner-in-waiting ISIL, speaking of which have you cast
your vote for it? I most definitely have, time and again, I, too, will put my head on the chopping board as say it
will be a runaway success that'll cause a major upsurge sales-wise for E=MC2. Mariah, if you're in your "pip penthouse
with a sick hot tub" reading this, please, please, release ISIL as a single. You feel me.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 3:27) |
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Re: 40 million?/ Stephen from London (21,697)
by Angela from San Jose, California
I don't know Mrs. K, 15-20 million is a little low to me. Rainbow was released at the end of 1999. It sold 3 million
in the US but worldwide those sales were like 9 million. So I'm thinking alot of Rainbow sales happened in 2000. Those
sales could be anywhere from 2-7 million in this decade. When you add TEOM sales which were 10 million worldwide
(probably closer to eight), that is like over 15 million for those two albums alone. You know what I mean. Anyway, I'm
thinking this decade Mariah may have sold closer to like 22-28 million. Actually, 40 million is not an overly gross
estimate. I'm sure a dedicated lamb will provide us with factual numbers. Stephen, I thought the same thing too. That
is such a random statement coming from Mariah now isn't it. I'm starting to believe she reads this messageboard from
time to time also. Or she may have people in her inner circle who do it and they mentioned something to her about the
recent dancing discussion we had here. Well, I will believe it 100% if Mariah drops it like it's hot during her next
tv performance, lol.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 2:21) |
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Re: 40 millions? K from California (21,696)
by Ken from Australia
There is no way Mimi has sold that much this decade, a kid can do the maths. Much of Rainbow sales was in 1999. But
say even if include Rainbow, it's Rainbow 10 + Glitter 3 + Charmbracelet 3 + Greatest Hits 4 + TEOM 10 + E=MC2
supposingly 4 + back catalogue. If her back catalogue sold that strong 500K per year, wouldn't they get re-certified
a lot by now? I don't think so, every other artist also selling their back catalogue too. Do that math, all that did
not even come close to Britney's, Norah's...
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 2:12) |
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Honey B Fly fan club (21,695)
by Eva from the U.S.A.
I am gonna ask just one more time. Can anyone help me please? I want to join Mariah's fan club, but when I go to
that page, I only get half the words, the blank sqaures but not the questions. Is anyone else having trouble or is
my computer whack? Can you stop witching enough to answer?
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 2:07) |
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Dancing (21,694)
by Aron from the USA
Um. I've really never seen MC dance. Maybe a lil toss the hips now and then but never a full dance. And what she did
in Dreamlover on the TAOM tour doesn't count, she moved her hands. But yea, if there is something I don't know about
I'd like to see it, because she has never really danced before. How can she in those damn heels? Lol.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 1:16) |
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40 million? (21,693)
by Special K from California
Mariah has not sold 40 million albums this decade. Come on now. I don't care if it
includes her back, front, and sideways catalog. It just didn't happen. I can see
possibly 15-20 million, thanks to Rainbow and TEOM. TJ's numbers look a little more
realistic which basically shows that Mariah's back catalog average sales are about
500,000 a year. Now I don't know if that includes worldwide sales too, but if it did,
it really wouldn't make too much of a difference. Man, Mariah almost sells 500,000
copies of her back catalog every year? Good lord. Imagine the amount of royality checks
she gets. Wow. Good for her. She has earned every penny of it.
(Thursday August 14, 2008; 0:20) |
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