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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Favourite ending (99,790) (99,798) by Bill from the UK It's strange because I've done the opposite this end. I try to listen to Music Box without EFA and ending it with All I've Ever Wanted, and it just feels so incomplete. AIEW is a beautiful song in many ways, but it ends the album on nothing more special than Just to Hold You Once Again. When Rainbow came out Mariah said it was her first album that ended on a happy note. I always wondered if she actually considered EFA to be the closing track for Music Box for that purpose. I understand what you mean about it not fitting with the rest of the album, but that's what makes it stand out so much and make such a statement. (Tuesday 1 March 2022; 08:43)

Re: Favourite ending (99,786) (99,789) by Bill from the UK Such a great ending, you're right. It's such a masterstroke to end Music Box with such a poignant closure. It's so weird/unfair that the US fans never experienced Music Box the same way the rest of the world did, as it adds a whole nother layer to the album, and is probably her best closing track. (Saturday 26 February 2022; 23:33)

Re: Dennis (99,778) (99,780) by Bill from the UK So glad you are okay Dennis. (Friday 25 February 2022; 16:54)

Re: Favourite ending (99,777) (99,779) by Bill from the UK With ABMB, do you mean the wall of sound "you and I" fade out, or the live version that ends with the opening guitar strum? Personally both are superb. (Friday 25 February 2022; 16:43)

Re: Favourite ending (99,772) (99,775) by Bill from the UK Yes, Heartbreaker's acapella run down at the end is superb when you hear all the harmonising parts, really shows the "wall of sound" thing Mariah does so well. And yes, when I first listened to WBT for the first time I was nodding my head along nicely to it thinking it was different, a bit Breakdown-esque with the rapid fire delivery of the lines, and then the key change made me sit up and do exactly as you say haha. (Thursday 24 February 2022; 22:00)

Re: Favourite ending (99,769) (99,774) by Bill from the UK I just watched this one again Bobby A as it's been a while, you're right, great delivery and the gentle end she brings the song to is beautiful. I Still Believe is so underrated. (Thursday 24 February 2022; 21:58)

Re: Favourite ending (99,768) (99,771) by Bill from the UK The original Fantasy is just pure ear candy, I love it. I too miss the Price Sisters and Melonie. What an era, and what a collective sound they all made. Honestly I sometimes think their contribution to Merry Christmas is massively overlooked. Without them it wouldn't sound half as amazing as it does. (Thursday 24 February 2022; 08:43)

Re: Favourite ending (99,767) (99,770) by Bill from the UK Yes, this was one of the best performances of My All she ever did, and she looked breath taking as well. I agree you could feel the hurt in her voice, and you understand why now having read the memoir and realising it was about DJ. (Thursday 24 February 2022; 08:41)

Favourite ending (99,766) by Bill from the UK So stepping away from the racism and the woke conversations and bringing it back to Mariah, do any of y'all have a favourite ending of Mariah's? Most of her lead singles have great endings, especially Emotions when the music and background singers all stop on the same note and she's left finishing her run acapella, and down to such a low note, considering the stratospheric heights she reached moments earlier. I also love the "do do do" finish of Firecracker Loverboy. (Wednesday 23 February 2022; 18:55)

Re: Tommy the racist (99,756) (99,758) by Bill from the UK No, I wouldn't say he was racist at all. I mean he married her knowing she was mixed. I see it more that he was a good businessman who knew what played to the biggest demographics and was protecting his investment. Music Box sold twice or three times as many copies as Butterfly, and he wanted for bang for his buck. If you pardon the pun. (Tuesday 22 February 2022; 18:21)

Re: Sweetheart (99,723) (99,726) by Bill from the UK I knew at the time it was a remake because my suspicious mind always enquires whenever I see that MC doesn't have a writing credit. Turns out my uncle knew and had the original version on 7" and let me have it. I do agree, for once, the original is better than Mariah's version. The original has a lot more bounce and sway to it, Mariah's version is very sluggish to my ear. I much prefer the No Rap version Matty, as JD has got to be the most annoying rapper on the planet. This is why I never listen to E=MC2 because he doesn't shut up throughout the whole record. I have expect the delicate intro of I Wish You Well to have a "y'all know who dis is" bleated over the top. (Caps) Shut Up (end caps). (Saturday 19 February 2022; 11:46)

Re: One offs compilation album? (99,694) (99,702) by Bill from the UK As always Nikki, provide your sources as this is all speculation/fabricated. (Tuesday 15 February 2022; 20:55)

Re: One offs compilation album? (99,688) (99,689) by Bill from the UK The thing was Triumphant was that the arrangement was all wrong. It's a great track, I love the driving beat and the optimistic message, but Mariah didn't appear until the third verse, and it was almost like she was a featured artist on a track she supposedly headlined. I remember when it debuted everyone was waiting around for her to appear on stage, it was just bizarre. I think this is why a lot of fans have a preference for the Vintage Throwback remix which puts Mariah front and centre, where she belongs. (Friday 11 February 2022; 15:54)

Re: Caution plus (99,678) (99,679) by Bill from the UK Caution plus: 1. Make It Look Good 2. With You 3. You Don't Know What to Do 4. Faded 5. Beautiful 6. The Distance 7. Giving Me Life 8. One Mo' Gen 9. Stay Long Love You 10. Unforgettable 11. Money 12. GTFO (Instrumental) 13. Portrait (Wednesday 9 February 2022; 23:22)

Re: I wonder (99,669) (99,671) by Bill from the UK What do you think MC16 is going to be like, sonically? Are you thinking an updated Caution, slick R&B with in producers? Or do you think she'll surprise us with either a gospel or jazz album, or will the next release be The Butterfly Lounge? Reworkings of her classic in the style of WBT Valentine's? (Tuesday 8 February 2022; 20:51)

Re: I wonder (99,663) (99,666) by Bill from the UK Don't go Bobby A because of one nasty individual. We all love you. (Monday 7 February 2022; 16:19)

Re: And You Don't Remember (99,662) (99,665) by Bill from the UK It was originally slated as the 4th single from Emotions but was shelved when I'll Be There took off. (Monday 7 February 2022; 16:18)

Re: Nick's sorted relationship history (99,656) (99,657) by Bill from the UK It's more that I didn't think such a reaction was really that warranted. Let's just take a step back. (Sunday 6 February 2022; 17:00)

Re: Nick's sorted relationship history (99,653) (99,654) by Bill from the UK You're getting a bit much PW. I get what you're saying but people are allowed to express an opinion or concern about somebody if they want to. If you don't like the way they've projected their thoughts, then so be it. You've not been appointed by anyone here, as far as I know, to determine what's acceptable and what isn't on this message board. So anyway I'm playing the Butterfly remix EP. Love the bossa nova, even though it isn't one. (Sunday 6 February 2022; 13:26)

Re: Mariah cover songs (99,637) (99,642) by Bill from the UK Open Arms was released in the UK and got to Number 4. The Wind is technically a remake, but the original was an instrumental, Mariah added lyrics. (Saturday 5 February 2022; 19:05)

Lusty McListface (99,629) by Bill from the UK Best background vocals: Underneath the Stars - The acapella revealed so many more layers than you can hear on the album version. I adore the "young love" and the harmonies on the bridge. Never Forget You - Babyface and Mariah's vocals melding together just sounds divine. I love the arrangement of the backings on this song, and the "ohs" after the beats on the chorus. Can't Let Go - If only for the harmonising with that final upper register "go". I also love the backgrounds during the bridge, they're so dramatic. Slipping Away - As the song enters its outro, and the bridge and the chorus are blended together over Mariah's as libs - wow. Vision of Love - The first and fairest of them all. Love that she kept the demo vocals in for posterity, and the first ever high note of hers the world would hear. (Friday 4 February 2022; 21:45)

Re: Nick's sorted relationship history (99,622) (99,623) by Bill from the UK The thing is Nick and his acquaintances are all adults, they can make their own choices. It is however the children I feel sorry for, and it does also somewhat cheapen and weaken the union he had with Mariah. (Friday 4 February 2022; 10:50)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,609) (99,610) by Bill from the UK Sorry, but those clips you posted are not one take wonders. Don't get het up over it, there are plenty of amazing one take performances 1990-1995 you can choose. Just look at If It's Over at SNL/Grammy's, the Tattoo Club performances, even the raw and original Unplugged sounds good. Her TOTP performances in the early 90s were all live, as the show insisted upon it, and they were all great. I even love the entire-octave-lower Emotions performance where she was incredibly ill (as per her interview on Lorraine the following day). So yeh you're wrong but don't worry about it my love. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 21:06)

Re: Underated? (99,600) (99,605) by Bill from the UK Vanishing was written with Ben Margulies. So far, the only self-penned song of Mariah's is the Vulnerability interlude on Rainbow. (Wednesday 2 February 2022; 14:52)

Re: Mariah and Celine (99,593) (99,597) by Bill from the UK I don't wish to rain on your parade but literally all those performances you listed were either pre-recorded or dubbed. The only full, genuine end to end live performances happened from debut through to Merry Christmas. All the home concert videos were dubbed and touched up in the studios, and from Daydream onwards performances started to incorporate lip syncing and pre-recorded vocals. Sorry. (Tuesday 1 February 2022; 20:04)

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