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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do.

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Re: Mariah and Celine (99,588) (99,596) by Bill from the UK
You're right. Puff said as well that she recorded 50 takes of Honey so he could select the best parts for the track, and many others have said that is a "perfectionist" in the studio, which is probably a polite way of saying she's a control freak lol.
(Tuesday 1 February 2022; 16:08)
Re: Underated? (99,592) (99,595) by Bill from the UK
Yes I agree on the one dimensional aspect. It's probably due to Celine approaching most of her songs in the same manner. Mariah always varies her vocal approach, as well as the song itself. My Saving Grace, a gospel tinged song with great uplifting vocals, followed on from Clown, a low, slow R&B diss track. You wouldn't get that versatility on many other singers' albums.
(Tuesday 1 February 2022; 16:07)
Re: Mariah and Celine (99,578) (99,584) by Bill from the UK
You forgot these:
- nodules
- corset too tight
- bronchitis
- in the middle of divorce proceedings
- arm in jewel-encrusted sling
- has nothing to prove
- no humidifier
- too many splashes beforehand
(Tuesday 1 February 2022; 09:48)
Re: Underated? (99,572) (99,573) by Bill from the UK
After how she spoke about her in her memoir over ArethaGate, I doubt it
(Monday 31 January 2022; 22:05)
Re: Underated? (99,570) (99,571) by Bill from the UK
Yes, in spite of how people may feel about Celine and her music, nobody can really say she's a bad singer. You may not like her delivery or style, but she is a very talented and intelligent vocalist.

I find her music a bit "samey", but I did have the Falling Into You album and agree it is a great album, especially the title track.
(Monday 31 January 2022; 21:00)
Re: Rarities 2 (99,535) (99,545) by Bill from the UK
Lose Control lore is all here for you my dear. Great website.
(Wednesday 26 January 2022; 10:05)
Re: Your relationship with the Number Ones, today (99,533) (99,542) by Bill from the UK
As much as I love AIWFCIY I know what you mean. One of the AC radio stations here in the UK took to playing O Holy Night instead and it sounds divine on the radio.
(Wednesday 26 January 2022; 08:42)
Re: Rarities 2 (99,532) (99,541) by Bill from the UK
Yes, ages ago I think the producer (I forget who) released it unofficially on his MySpace or something, and charged everyone a dollar for it. Mariah went nuts because they never got clearance for the sample, and it also wasn't a finished, final version either. It was a massive drama at the time.
(Wednesday 26 January 2022; 08:18)
Re: Rarities 2 (99,531) (99,540) by Bill from the UK
Lol, every time she posts a picture in the studio we go mad and start complaining because it's usually with JD and a glass of wine. Perhaps she's learnt her lesson hah.
(Wednesday 26 January 2022; 08:16)
Re: Rarities 2 (99,525) (99,529) by Bill from the UK
Ever since Narada Michael Walden said he found the masters for Lose Control, a song they wrote together for the debut, I've been desperate to hear it. I need more debut vocals in my life. Here We Go Around Again was a true gift from heaven.
(Tuesday 25 January 2022; 18:29)
Re: Your relationship with the Number Ones, today (99,524) (99,528) by Bill from the UK
Always here for a list.

Vision of Love - Always play it, and it's just a joyous and perfect as when I first heard it. Perfection.
Love Takes Time - I rarely play this but always enjoy it when I do.
Someday - One of my jams. I also hate that Mariah hates it. I love all the remixes and play them often.
I Don't Wanna Cry - Always skip, never listen to it.
Emotions - Love this so much and play it a few times a week.
I'll Be There - Always play this as I always play Unplugged. Fantastic performance.
Dreamlover - Play at least once a week, love it to death.
Hero - Rarely play it, usually skip, but when the mood takes me, I love it.
Without You - UK Addition - Love it and always play this. If only for the nostalgia.
Fantasy - Album version always, remix version not much.
One Sweet Day - Not much, and when I do, it's either the Chucky or Acapella version.
Always Be My Baby - Love to death and always play.
Honey - As above.
My All - Agree that the album, club and rap mixes are all sublime.
Heartbreaker - Rarely play either version.
Thank God I Found You - As above.
Against All Odds - UK Addition - As above.
We Belong Together - Play occasionally, always been indifferent to it.
Don't Forget About Us - Rarely play it.
Touch My Body - As above.
All I Want for Christmas Is You - Her best song ever.
(Tuesday 25 January 2022; 18:27)
Re: Where is everybody? (99,521) (99,523) by Bill from the UK
There's not much going on really in "Mariah's World" to fuel conversation. Rarities 2 is needed ASAP.
(Tuesday 25 January 2022; 07:34)
My All (99,514) by Bill from the UK
I'm sitting in subdued lighting, listening to My All on my noise-cancelling headphones. What a song. Imagine being Mr. Jeter and having this song written about you. It's so subtle, but has so many layers. And those lyrics. It's just sublime.
(Sunday 23 January 2022; 22:42)
Re: I Am Free (99,498) (99,503) by Bill from the UK
Well, I'm speculating. MC always said she felt I Am Free had the potential to be a great gospel song, and said she wanted someone from that arena to cover it. The news of her working with the Clarke Sisters, and that this "Butterfly lounge" may be her reworking her old catalogue, is me putting 2 and 2 together. And probably getting 5.
(Saturday 22 January 2022; 12:19)
Re: I Am Free (99,492) (99,493) by Bill from the UK
I did like it, but my dad once heard me playing it and said it sounded like she was drunk, so now every time I play it I think of that comment and laugh lol. If she's re-imagined this song with the Clarke Sisters though I will die.
(Saturday 22 January 2022; 00:15)
Re: Reimagining albums into 10 tracks (99,489) (99,491) by Bill from the UK
Hah, you pretty much removed all my favourite songs lol.
(Friday 21 January 2022; 21:16)
Re: Reimagining albums into 10 tracks (99,477) (99,481) by Bill from the UK
Haha well done. I think originally articles called To the Floor "Tonight" as it leaked around the same time as Say Somethin' did. Personally I think Tonight is the better title.
(Wednesday 19 January 2022; 17:08)
Re: Reimagining albums into 10 tracks (99,472) (99,475) by Bill from the UK
Bobby, don't deny yourself a great Mariah track over one bad encounter with somebody. Reclaim Circles as yours. Absolutely not worth letting somebody like that live rent-free in your head, and to take something that you, by rights, should love. Give Circles another chance and put all that nonsense out of your head and enjoy the song for what it is.

I had the same thing with Never Forget You. I couldn't listen to it for ages because of the line "I should of said I love you, why didn't I just tell you?", those words cut straight through me. Someone I loved very, very much passed away and I spent years wishing I had told them I loved them. I never did and it pained me so much that they died not knowing. Then I thought to myself, they wouldn't want to ever deprive me of something I love. They knew I loved Mariah, and I realised at the same time, they knew I loved them. So now when I listen to that song, as sad as it is, it fills me with a certain joy for the time we had together and the lyrics speak to me in a different way now. Indeed, I'll hold onto the memories and never leave them behind.
(Tuesday 18 January 2022; 23:51)
Re: Reimagining albums into 10 tracks (99,464) (99,468) by Bill from the UK
Did you mean Your Girl instead of Yours? Yours is from Charmbracelet. I agree with this list but would axe Joy Ride in favour To the Floor (which I think you've called Tonight), to give the album more "edge".
(Tuesday 18 January 2022; 17:15)
Re: Through The Rain/AYNAF (99,461) (99,467) by Bill from the UK
TTR I get not performing well. Mariah's reputation had taken a pretty big hammering, her image was all over the place, and as much as I like the song it wasn't really radio friendly. It had too slow a build to the "money shot" of the bridge and end chorus, and I think it would have done better with live instrumentation, instead of the clinky Casio keyboard, some strings, a choir etc. It was as if the blueprint was there but it wasn't really coloured in.

As for AYNAF, it's a mystery to me how that didn't reach the top ten. It made it to #8 in the UK, following the #1 Without You of course which probably helped its performance. The remixes for that track are some of her best. The manic C&C Club Mix with the scatting at the end, gospel vocals, and then that gorgeous Soul Convention Remix. Beautiful.
(Tuesday 18 January 2022; 17:13)
Re: Original title for Somewhat Loved? (99,457) (99,458) by Bill from the UK
Hmmm. I prefer the shorter albums myself. Don't forget the debut was supposed to be 10 tracks. And the US versions of Music Box and Merry Christmas are 10 tracks. Rainbow is 10 tracks if you remove the remixes and interludes (and Did I Do That lol). As much as I love it, the deluxe version of TEOM doesn't seem to ever end, and Memoirs is like one continuous 90 minute track, and Charmie outstays its welcome as well. My issue is the frequency of releases, but that's because we got spoiled with an album a year in the early days. I get she has kids and all that, so the gap between albums will be longer, but I was hoping shorter albums would mean a smaller space between albums, but here we are.
(Tuesday 18 January 2022; 00:10)
Re: How Greatest Hits should've played out (99,452) (99,455) by Bill from the UK
Yes. Please deliver me my jazz album before my time here is over. And Rarities 2 with more 90s tracks I am banging at the door for. As for Greatest Hits, yes, far too soon after #1's and everything screamed "end of contract". The only reason to buy was that Endless Love was finally on a Mariah album, the remix of AIWFCIY and the UK edition had the Westlife version of Against All Odds on it. I've always felt #1's is the superior album. Beautiful cover, and a concentrated track list really helps keep the record accessible, in spite of some obvious omissions. The UK edition is great with the addition of Without You and Mahogany.
(Monday 17 January 2022; 13:55)
Re: Caution (99,442) (99,444) by Bill from the UK
I'll never understand why MC dragged Caution. Everyone, fans and critics alike, rated it as a really concise, tight, clever album that actually presented her correctly in terms of vocals. MIAM before it was like a Frankenstein album, pitched up and spliced and auto tuned and manufactured to the point that it didn't even sound like Mariah anymore. Caution was a really moody, somewhat dark album that I loved. Giving Me Life, The Distance, Stay Long Love You etc. The only misstep for me was GTFO. Whilst sonically I loved it, lyrically it was the worst thing she ever did. Even Crapfinity was better. Wait, no it wasn't. My playlist has the instrumental of it, and adds I Don't and Unforgettable, which actually go really well alongside the other tracks.
(Sunday 16 January 2022; 16:08)
Re: Forbes fail (99,423) (99,427) by Bill from the UK
Hmmm. They weren't number one though. I don't see the article as bashing or negative. Just a fun tidbit. I wouldn't get that wound up over it.
(Friday 14 January 2022; 20:04)
Re: Forbes fail (99,420) (99,422) by Bill from the UK
I think it's mainly because it goes from Number 1 to completely out of the chart, which is more newsworthy than if it was at, say, number 48 or 76 like some of the other Christmas tunes.
(Friday 14 January 2022; 12:45)

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