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About Bill from the UK:
I love Mariah more than you do.
London Daydream Tour Attendee.
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Re: MC16 (98,569) (98,570)
by Bill from the UK
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Rather than an entire new album, what could work is "re-imaginings" of her songs, like the WBT Late Night version. An album of her re-doing some of her tracks in a more free, spontaneous, jazz-esque manner could be great. Especially some of the really old material she may not be that happy with in hindsight. Imagine turning a song like Heartbreaker into a sultry slow jam ballad or removing all the production from Alone In Love?
(Friday 3 September 2021; 09:57)
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Re: Music Box tour footage NYC (98,561) (98,564)
by Bill from the UK
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Yeh I couldn't believe it when it came up on my YouTube Bobby A, never clicked anything so fast (actually no, my lightning speed record was staying up until the early hours of the morning to hear Here We Go Around Again the instant it became available). The upper register on All In Your Mind sounded like birdsong, it was beautiful. And the second "insiiiiiide" of Emotions, when she carries up the scale was out of this world.
(Monday 30 August 2021; 17:02)
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Re: Music Box tour footage NYC (98,562) (98,563)
by Bill from the UK
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Yep agree completely. Even this amateur footage shows a much more fun and energetic concert than Tokyo Dome. I know everybody falls at Tokyo Dome's feet, but I find it one of her most boring and bland concerts she has ever done. Not helped by the audience being a sea of unenthusiastic mannequins either. Plus half the vocals are lipped studio vocals, but manipulated to a semitone lower. The Music Box Tour is 100% live, faults and all, and it's amazing. I agree that Vanishing is an absolute highlight, and swooping into the Morales mix of Dreamlover was a complete surprise.
(Monday 30 August 2021; 16:59)
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Music Box tour footage NYC (98,560)
by Bill from the UK
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Hi all, the entire NYC concert footage from the Music Box tour (amateur) is on YouTube.
(Sunday 29 August 2021; 13:52)
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Article: Mariah Carey's "Somewhat Loved" reaches top 10 (98,547)
by Bill from the UK
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For a moment I was like, wow, Billboard Top 10 for Somewhat Loved, how surprising, yet delightful.
Then it turns out it's the Billboard Bubbling Under R&B Featured Female Artists Over 50 Who Have Twins chart and carried on with my life.
(Wednesday 25 August 2021; 19:28)
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Re: Remixes that surpass the original (98,540) (98,543)
by Bill from the UK
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Ah yes, the Sweet A Capella of One Sweet Day is gorgeous, I completely forgot about that one. Definitely better than the original. Adds a whole new dimension. And yep, agree with the Bonita mix of DYKWYGT. I also love the Bossa Nova of Butterfly, because it's so unique in her remix catalogue (even though it's not technically a bossa nova lol, but close enough), but it's tough to beat the original.
(Sunday 22 August 2021; 21:23)
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Remixes that surpass the original (98,539)
by Bill from the UK
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I've been listening to my maxi singles lately and really do believe there have been moments in MC's career where a remix has far outdone the original album version.
The Jackswing mix of Someday is far more organic and sparse sounding than the overproduced album version in my opinion. I will also never tire of the Def Club Mix of Dreamlover, though I adore the original of course, the remix ushered in all those that would follow. I feel torn about the original Fantasy (pure ear candy) and the ODB remix. Both are Goliaths, but the original probably just edges it out in my view. Again, I love AYNAF but the C&C Club Mix has some of the best, most free sounding vocals Mariah has ever delivered. Her scatting at the end as her upper register swirls around in the background is phenomenal.
Another no brainer is the Pure Imagination remix of I Still Believe. The original is nice but Mariah turns it into a whole new song with only the title as it's similarity. The Willy Wonka sample is inspired.
Post-Sony not much to write home about remix wise as she rarely did anything she hadn't done better before. The only ones I like as the "No Rap" edits that remove JD's relentless bleating and interruptions. It's like just shut up. For a change.
Have I missed anything obvious?
(Sunday 22 August 2021; 12:36)
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Re: Clark Sisters (98,512) (98,513)
by Bill from the UK
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If Mariah is singing with the Clark Sisters that will be amazing. She mentioned them on The First Vision video along with the Edwin Hawkins Singers as the gospel singers she likes. I wonder if MC is heading down a gospel route for the next album, or whether it's going to be a gospel infused Christmas number.
(Friday 13 August 2021; 07:36)
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Re: Faded (98,504) (98,505)
by Bill from the UK
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I love the opening line "It was overcast that day, and I was feeling some kind of way". Almost as poetic as The Roof's opening. My favourite from MIAM is Make It Look Good. Stevie's harmonica harmonising with Mariah's upper register is brilliant. Should have been a single and would have been another #1 like Migrate.
(Tuesday 10 August 2021; 16:27)
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Re: Music Box album cover (98,495) (98,498)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes agree, it is a beautiful cover. I'm sure I remember reading somewhere it was inspired by a Marilyn Monroe shot. It does exude that sort of silver screen look, and her face is lovely.
As for the London date of the Daydream tour, glad to have a fellow attendee in my midst haha. Whereabouts were you seated? I remember crying my eyes out when my dad said he managed to get tickets, he was on hold for hours hah. I took my Talkboy (remember those?) so I have a terrible cassette recording, but I did manage in the later years to get my hands on some better recordings and some video footage. Unfortunately, that's all stored in my parent's attic at the moment so not sure when I will be back there to find it. I do intend to stick it all on YouTube one of these days, and this group will be the first to know of course.
(Friday 6 August 2021; 14:09)
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Re: MC's sexiest album cover (98,482) (98,484)
by Bill from the UK
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Mariah should have used the self portrait for the Me I Am Mariah cover, and also should have used the pink Caution tape with the blue eye staring through it as the Caution album cover. That said, I did like the black cover with the M. Just please not another full body shot of Mariah with her arms raised and legs akimbo.
(Monday 2 August 2021; 12:06)
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Re: MC's sexiest album cover (98,473) (98,475)
by Bill from the UK
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Yes agree. I always felt the pic of Mariah holding the microphone would have made the better album cover, though zoomed in a bit (like the VOL cover).
(Saturday 31 July 2021; 14:27)
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Re: MC's sexiest album cover (98,471) (98,472)
by Bill from the UK
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See if preferred the snow bunny look of Merry Christmas and think the red Santa suit is the sexiest look she did, in a subtle way. That and Emotions, as it emphasises her great figure.
(Saturday 31 July 2021; 12:12)
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Re: American Idol performance (98,459) (98,461)
by Bill from the UK
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The biggest tell for the Late Night WBT remix is her headphone wire switches from side to side throughout the video. Whoever was in charge of continuity should have got sacked lol.
(Wednesday 28 July 2021; 12:35)
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Re: Albums ranked by heavy rotation (98,456) (98,460)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm so here for this. Rather than by rotation (I play the CDs/vinyl rather than stream as it sounds better), I'll just do my ranking:
0. Daydream tour London (I was an attendee) 1. MTV Unplugged EP 2. Merry Christmas 3. Emotions 4. Mariah Carey 5. Daydream 6. Music Box 7. Butterfly 8. Glitter 9. Emancipation 10. Rainbow 11. Charmbracelet 12. Caution 13. Me I Am Mariah 14. E=MC2 15. Memoirs 16. Merry Christmas II You
(Wednesday 28 July 2021; 12:30)
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Re: Twitter Spaces audio link (98,444) (98,445)
by Bill from the UK
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Lol. It's odd that MC seems to have issues with Caution. Critically it was lauded and it's one of her most concise, succinct and snappy albums she's ever done. I still love it.
(Monday 26 July 2021; 23:41)
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Pure love (Eternally) (98,442)
by Bill from the UK
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This fan made mash up is really worth listening to.
(Sunday 25 July 2021; 22:43)
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Re: Will they have their mum's talent? (98,423) (98,424)
by Bill from the UK
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If Supernatural is anything to go by, it didn't lol.
(Friday 23 July 2021; 17:38)
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Re: Mariah (98,411) (98,417)
by Bill from the UK
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20-something years from now they will all be suing each other for various reasons I've no doubt.
(Thursday 22 July 2021; 04:45)
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Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,391) (98,396)
by Bill from the UK
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I don't disagree with what you or anyone has said about Morgan, but it might have been better from MC to have not even mentioned it at all. She didn't mention Stella, James P and Walter got a line or two, she could have quite easily written of her troubled upbringing without writing what she did about her siblings and mother.
(Monday 19 July 2021; 14:53)
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Re: Someones Ugly Daughter's voice (98,380) (98,387)
by Bill from the UK
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She also went on a massive gruelling tour between Daydream and Butterfly, which many signpost as her last consistent, great, and flawless performance. That said, she had a week's rest in between each stop on the European leg. By the way, I attended the London Daydream tour and it was one of the greatest spectacles I ever beheld. I took it all for granted at the time, but I am so grateful to have seen her at her absolute vocal and commercial peak.
(Sunday 18 July 2021; 17:01)
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Re: Someones Ugly Daughter's voice (98,363) (98,373)
by Bill from the UK
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Like any part of the body, you need to keep yourself and the particular vessel you utilise in top condition, just as you would a car. If you mistreat it, then you will see the consequences. An athlete cannot perform living off soda and junk food, and equally alcohol and smoke are two of the absolute worst things for a voice, both of which Mariah indulges in, some would say to excess. Yes, stress would have also been a factor, but she's not still stressed about Tommy and Columbia records 25 years later, so you have to look at the other factors. It does amaze me sometimes that so many fans overlook what is right under their noses.
(Saturday 17 July 2021; 20:18)
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Article: Mariah Carey announces limited-edition Christmas crate (98,369)
by Bill from the UK
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$50 for a plate, twine, and some stickers? Yeh I'm okay thanks.
(Saturday 17 July 2021; 13:25)
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Re: Morgan is pathetic / Parasites (98,360) (98,361)
by Bill from the UK
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Playing devil's advocate here (or angel's advocate, as the case may be), but Morgan will indeed find it quite difficult now to "make his own way", given how he was depicted in a #1 New York Times best-selling memoir. This is the reason he is seeking damages.
(Friday 16 July 2021; 22:12)
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Re: I miss Stella (98,341) (98,342)
by Bill from the UK
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I've never even watched an episode of Mariah's World, and I don't think I ever will. One of her most ill advised career moves ever. I mean it's up there with not releasing Migrate as a single.
(Monday 12 July 2021; 00:07)
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