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Tommy Mottola (76,537)
by T from USA
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For Tommy Mottola to come out and publically speak about Mariah's managerial situtation is really telling. He risked being scrutinized, seen as obsessed and not minding his own business, and yet he still felt the need to say something. I think everyone in the industry and outside of the industry is rooting for Mariah to wake up.
(Thursday 22 June 2017; 13:58)
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In the first twenty years of Mariah's career (76,492)
by T from USA
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An amazing statistic, in the first twenty years of her career she had a song appear on the Hot 100 every year except 2007. My question is how did the song she did with Bone Thugs and Bow Wow not at least debut on the Hot 100? (Even Oh Santa debut at #100 in 2010). In 2007 Bone Thugs single "I Tried" reached #6 on the Hot 100 and the followup single "Lil Love" feat Mariah didn't even crack the chart. Even though she was fresh off the amazing TEOM era where she was red hot and about to release her 18th #1 in Touch My Body. What happened to "Lil Love"? It had a video and got the single treatement. Was it regarded that bad of a song that Mariah (who just had a #1 hit in DFAU, and Bone Thugs who just reached #6 with "I tired) couldnt't even crack the chart together?
(Wednesday 21 June 2017; 14:00)
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Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,452)
by T from USA
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Glitter was worse because she still cared and the people still cared so it was tough seeing her not be able to break through. This last few years since 2015 are just pointless.
(Tuesday 20 June 2017; 15:30)
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10 million dollar engagement ring on middle finger (76,451)
by T from USA
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She's been wearing this for over six months now. Here is the problem with Mariah. What is she even thinking? The old Mariah would never. If this is her idea of keeping her career going or being buzzworthy then she needs to give it up already.
(Tuesday 20 June 2017; 15:14)
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The old Mariah (76,420)
by T from USA
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If Mariah didn't take American Idol in 2012, if she didn't fall in 2013, if she would've just released an album instead, none of this would be happening right now. This is all a result of some very bad decisions after having kids. She was so level headed and classy at one time and she could've taken that old spirit she had into motherhood. Her whole image could've been based on the next phase of her life and career. She would've been revered as a legend and she could've had the same popularity she used to have but now on a part time basis. It's too late. It's been five years of bad choices and bad press. Plus I'm not sure if she's not heavily medicated due to what happened to her shoulder. Or maybe she's just drinking away the pain.
(Monday 19 June 2017; 13:42)
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Re: Who would you pick (76,325) (76,327)
by T from USA
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Money. Money corrupts people. When she was able to make a lot of it just doing music she did. When her numbers started dwindeling and record sales in general started becoming a thing of the past she had to reinvent herself to keep chasing the coin. It's a shame because if she would've retired after TEOM her legacy would be solid. (Even if she retired right after MCIIY and having children it wouldn't have been as bad as it is now.) The first 15-20 years of Mariah were absolutely perfect.
(Thursday 15 June 2017; 15:37)
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The two sides of Mariah (76,151)
by T from USA
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Throughout the years I've always noticed it was almost like there were two Mariah's operating at the same time. One was this repsectful artist who calls (and still calls) people like Lionel Richie "Mr. Richie". Who wouldn't oversing her idols and who was focused and career driven shy artist. The other is a diva who cannot be told what to do. One side of Mariah allowed herself to be controlled and contained in order to achieve almost insurmountable achievements the other side of her personality is single handedly destroying it. For me, the two polarizing adjectives when it comes to MC isn't "black" and "white", but rather artist vs. diva.
(Friday 9 June 2017; 14:05)
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Mariah needs to work with real artists again (75,965)
by T from USA
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She needs to go away. Rent a cottage for a summer like Beyonce did and live with real artists and write songs for two months. Jazmine Sullivan, Solange Knowles, Frank Ocean. She needs to reconnect with her artistry. Can you imagine the songs she would produce if she hung out with real artists? The business will take care of itself if she just comes back with real songs. She should leave the reality tv producers and business people behind while creating an album. Their opinions won't help the process. Unfortunately this won't happen but one could wish.
(Friday 2 June 2017; 13:25)
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Just a thought (75,930)
by T from USA
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If she doesn't sound like her anymore. If she doesn't act like her anymore. If she doesn't work like her anymore. If she doesn't care like her anymore. If she doesn't talk like her anymore. If her face doesn't even look like her anymore. Is she still Mariah Carey anymore?
(Thursday 1 June 2017; 03:32)
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Re: I'll do it for money, honey (75,918) (75,920)
by T from USA
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She just lost her way. That's all, she's lost. It's too bad because whether it was just a cultivated image or not, I truly believed she cared about the music.
(Wednesday 31 May 2017; 22:53)
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Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,914) (75,917)
by T from USA
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And that's what I believe is happening to Mariah at the moment. It's too bad she cannot see it. But I think a lot of times it has to do with a mental state of mind (ego) more then anything. That's why the ones that reach iconic status like MJ, Kanye, etc tend to fall off the deep end. The only mega superstar that I can see has kept her cool (didn't loose the plot) is Madonna. I don't know how she's managed to keep such a thick skin all these years. For a woman who built a career out of changing every two seconds, she sure has stayed the same in a grounded sense.
(Wednesday 31 May 2017; 21:47)
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Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,903) (75,908)
by T from USA
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The second part: Why 2009 and Obsessed are so significant. It hit me the other day. I used to love Kanye West, espeically during the College Drop Out/Late Registration eras. But in the last few years I haven't liked his public persona. I haven't bought his last three albums and don't care for the songs. Kanye the person rubs me the wrong way. Now I will always have a soft spot for those early songs (as I'm sure the public does with Mariah's early hits), but the more Kanye annoys me, even that taints his older songs in my eyes. Now to Mariah. She was one of the most brilliant pop stars of her generation. She would always craft a song not specifically about her but in a way that could relate to everyone. She didn't alienate with her lyrics. She knew that she had to take herself out of the equation so that the songs would become timeless. But since 2009 and Obsessed she's started to alienate with her persona (and her lyrics, the songs were more pointed towards her drama). Had she stayed the good girl who was just about the music I don't think she would be in any career mess right now. But she rubs people the wrong way and eventually it's going to affect her older material as well. When people hear the name Mariah, unfortunately they are just going to turn the channel. It's funny how you can tear down everything you once held dear just by trying to stay relavant. It's almost ironic.
(Wednesday 31 May 2017; 13:52)
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Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,878) (75,903)
by T from USA
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I think the truth is money motivates Mariah. It always has. She was a poor kid growing up and music was a means to an ends. Had she been born rich there is no telling if she would've worked as hard or produced that sound and written those songs. Now that she is so rich she doesn't need music the same way she once did. She used to always say that she would feel that the rug would get pulled out from under her if she didn't continue to work hard. But now I think she realizes she is set for life. Mariah's musical career took a dip once the money wasn't there in music anymore, which was right around 2009 (when she went Gold). She tried one more attempt at cashing in with a second Chirstmas album but that didn't sell like the old days either. So she settled on an 18 million dollar reality TV show paycheck. (Something she swore she would never do in the past, but like the Virgin Records deal, money talks.) I will always wonder what would've been if she used Idol properly to promote MIAM. Maybe just maybe we wouldn't be down this road right now.
(Wednesday 31 May 2017; 03:36)
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Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,871)
by T from USA
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Actually I noticed a change in Mariah the artist after she released Obsessed. I think that song cursed the rest of her career. I really do. I mean it was the last single to date that she promoted properly in that old school Mariah fashion but even with all the hard work it only reached #7. And then there was the subject matter. It was a very different kind of single for MC. There was an air of desperateness around it. As if for the first time she needed controversy to sell a record. Since that song she has never promoted a song properly (or even had a top 10). Maybe the music gods weren't too keen on Mariah making and releasing Obsessed.
(Tuesday 30 May 2017; 02:18)
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Mariah lost a fan literally (75,700)
by T from USA
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It's weird we just had this whole long debate about how Mariah is loosing tons of fans as of late, figuratively. Then 24 hours later we hear that she has lost a fan literally (through a senseless act). I think we can all learn from this that whatever Mariah is up to, doing or not doing, it's not that deep. She's not hurting anyone and it's all just entertainment. There are way more important things in life then if Mariah is doing another season of the reality show. Or if we get an album this year or next. It doesn't really matter. We should just be grateful that she is still putting her energy to entertain us.
(Thursday 25 May 2017; 13:24)
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Everyone fanning over Celine (75,559)
by T from USA
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There are tons of pictures of celebs, like Drake etc. in Celine Dion's dressing room showing her love and respect. I just thought about this compared to Mariah and I don't think MC would want a room full of younger acts "bowing" down to her and stuff. Mariah seems very uncomfortable with her fame to this date and she really only likes to hang with her inner circle.
(Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:41)
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I would've been happy if Mariah retired (75,557)
by T from USA
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Before you jump down my throat, here [sic] me out. I would've been happier if she retired after #1's to Infinity if it meant she didn't go down this route. No NYE disaster. I would've been okay with a twenty five year flawless career. I don't want her going thirty five years but the last ten are going to be a laughing stock. No thank you. I respect her and her talent way to much to see her degrade herself any further. Now that being said, had she continued with the work ethic of at least the Memoirs era and a great NYE performance then I wouldn't mind if she continued.
(Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:28)
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The rise of YouTube, the downfall of Mimi (75,541)
by T from USA
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We know Mariah has had self esteem issues her whole life. Anybody who would believe that they have a bad side off one comment clearly does. But she dealt with it and in the '90s she was younger (prettier) and there weren't as many uncontrolled photo opps. Now as an older Mariah (who is trying to stay young looking with questionable methods) and the ability to upload her image at any given time must be driving her self esteem issues through the roof. Think about it, in 1995 if she had a bad performance it wouldn't be everywhere the next minute. As social media started to really rise to the levels it is now Mariah's career started to falter. In correlation. I'm looking at you 2008. Blogs like Perez Hilton started to become the voice and Mariah was a hostage to public opinion. For someone like Madonna with a thicker skin we didn't see the effects right away, but for our sensitive Mariah it must've have been hell. She carried on anyway and still tweeted throughout 2009 but after 2011 when she had her twins, her body changed and she was now 41. I noticed a big difference. And after Rockerfeller tree lighting incident she stopped using her own social media altogether. I can only imagine the hateful things she read about herself on there. Now with the NYE debacle there is no chance for her to ever feel safe or comfortable performing. Her esteem is shot and she is too guarded. Which is now a perfect mix for someone like Stella to "protect" her. Mariah's star was born at a time before social media and YouTube, I think she's tried her best (and her talent has kept her around) but like many artists she has found it hard to transition to this new era. The post 2010 technological landscape. Like in the '80s when some acts couldn't continue because they couldn't transition to the new MTV music video age. I feel bad for Mariah in this regard, she was once the most beautiful singer on the scene. But she warned us in 2008: "If there's a camera up in here then it's gonna leave with me when I do. If there's a camera up in here, then I'd best not catch this flick on YouTube. And nobody listened."
(Monday 22 May 2017; 21:59)
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Pictures of Mariah in the recording studio (75,532)
by T from USA
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There are new pics of Mariah at the recording studio the night she did the Jamie Fox show. Is it just me or do I see Jermaine Duprie [sic] in the clip with Jamie Fox? So we can be sure she went into the studio with JD after that then because I don't know if she's working with anyone else at the moment.
(Monday 22 May 2017; 15:33)
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Re: The Busta song (75,524) (75,531)
by T from USA
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I think it was some kind of weird co-project between the two of them set up by Reid and DJ Khaled at Epic. Mariah does have some say in it I'm sure because she was going to drop it at the end of the month that her tour was starting. I read somewhere that it was supposed to coincide with her tour. She may feel like she can't promote it properly without the tour behind her so they are holding off (for now).
(Monday 22 May 2017; 15:31)
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Article: "Artists aren't going to need labels much in the future" (75,523)
by T from USA
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Where did this Mariah go? I love this review of MIAM, and I love how focused she was.
(Monday 22 May 2017; 14:27)
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Mariah loosing a lot of fans (75,520)
by T from USA
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From what I read around the Internet and talking to various people outside of the Internet it seems that Mariah is loosing tons of fans and at a rapid rate. If this continues she may not [have] very many left by next year. I think she should hurry and get that album out this year as she still has somewhat of a fan base and plus with Katy Perry flopping there is litterally no other female compitition on the horizon. This might be her best chance.
(Monday 22 May 2017; 13:42)
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The Busta song (75,519)
by T from USA
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It was said the song was supposed to come out right before her tour with Lionel Ritchi [sic]. But once that got pushed back so did the song I guess. Maybe we'll hear it in August then.
(Monday 22 May 2017; 13:39)
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Re: Interesting LA Reid article (75,501) (75,518)
by T from USA
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I also think that promises were made from Doug Morris to LA Reid that once he steps down LA would take the reigns as top boss. But this business is so shady they say one thing and do another. To be fair Striger ran a way better Columbia than Reid did at Epic so the right man got the job. Then of course as to not look embarrased Sony leaks "stories" about sexual harrassment. But watch nothing will happen going forward.
(Monday 22 May 2017; 13:38)
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Signature song (75,300)
by T from USA
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Mariah has had so many hits that picking a signature song is almost impossible for her. I wonder what she would consider her signature song? Or at least want everyone to acknowledge as her signature? I think you have to break it down into three categories: 1. Commercial success, 2. Artistic expression, 3. Legacy. It can be argued that either Hero or WBT are her signature song because of their chart success. But at the same time Butterfly is her bold artistic expression that has symbolized her life and career to this day. Then there's always the legacy song's Vision of Love and AIWFCIY that could take the spot as her one signature song. For me it's one of those five songs. Don't ask me to pick. And that's not even talking about Fantasy and ABMB which could have a solid case made for then as well.
(Wednesday 17 May 2017; 22:05)
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