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About Matty from Vancouver Canada: I love music of all kinds, with R&B and pop toping my list of favourite genres. I've been a Mariah fan since Charmbraclet, there was something about that album that connects on a deep level. Other favourite albums are Glitter, Daydream, The Emancipation of Mimi, and Me. I Am Mariah. My Favourite Mariah Songs are: The Art of Letting Go, Fantasy & Shake It Off. My Least Favourite album is Music Box. My most start-to-finish listened album (don't-skip-a-track albums): Emotions, Butterfly, The Emancipation of Mimi and Me. I Am Mariah: The Elusive Chanteuse.

Yes, And? lyrics (105,553) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Jaker, "extra gatekeeping" is a great way of putting it. Thank goodness censored versions of songs have always been played on traditional radio and readily available to stream if that's what you prefer. The power of GTFO without the actual word loses its power as a song and expression. Even in "It's a wrap", the "put all your sh** in an elevator" or "I should have never given you my [censored] two way" from Clown, lines are so much more expressive and true to the anger the song is projecting (which is the art) then say "put all your stuff in an elevator". Swearing isn't about age, that's obscured. if you're in your 30's, 40's, 50's and you believe you've out grown curse words, what age range is curse words bond to? I can tell you you won't want it to be your children, teens your young 20's using those words if that's your view on using expressive language. Words only mean something when you put meaning to them. If curse words are what you're worried your children will hear, I'm sorry, but as a parent in 2024 that's the least of your worries. Say ummm like a criminal eligible to be a global leader, or people not having the freedom to express themselves without death because of how they were born. Those are things to teach the next generation, language is only but a tool of expression. (Sunday 18 February 2024; 23:26) this is a reply to message 105,551

Yes, And? lyrics (105,551) by jaker20 from US I'm personally more for not censoring the artist and let Mariah do what she wants. Artists are supposed to express themselves and at this point of Mariah's career, thinking if she should cuss or not should be the least of her concerns. Mariah, the person, has so many facets and it would be great to see those sides of her, and not write again about when your hero will come along to cast your fears aside or if its supposed to be for people who lost their grandmothers. I love them, I absolutely love those songs. But telling her not to use some lame cuss word in a song which is censored anyway because it might terrify the kids is being extra gatekeeping imo. And let me remind she's barely released anything anymore, like at all, and hopefully it's not because she cares way too much about what others will say to the point of dropping ideas each time. In fact, I would to argue that it was GTFO and Caution are the highlights in terms of depth that lit her late 2010s career revival. (Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:20)

Yes, And? lyrics (105,529) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I get some people's objection to the profanities in the song, although this is music for adults, and radio plays clean versions. Profanities are just words, just like every other word. It's art and words are an expression of art. Anyways . What was odd to me is that some don't like the message of this song. it's extremely empowering. "Wear this stuff on your chest, be your own best friend. I'm done with hypocrisy" etc. it's extremely empowering and self assured. Aside for your view on curse words, why isn't this songs lyrics a flex of self love and empowerment? (Sunday 18 February 2024; 01:19)

Yes, And... Obsessed (105,493) by Matty from Vancouver Canada What an amazing return to pure Pop for MC. This bleeds her early dance jams like Someday remix. I absolutely love their voices together, and it elevates the OG version so much. I love all these women forward songs Mariah has done recently from Brandy, to Lotto and Ari. (Friday 16 February 2024; 18:48)

Couture (105,227) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I love the style and jewelry; the concept is stunning. Unfortunately I think the train-bow should have been shimmed down a bit. The crotch area grabs your attention and looks odd. She's always been famous for her legs, so I totally get the vibe, just cover up the crotch. Love the colours, hair and makeup are perfection, and I'm obsessed with the jewelry. (Friday 2 February 2024; 20:39) this is a reply to message 105,225

Couture (105,225) by Norman from USA Hahaha right? To be fair though, I found out she's worn that specific designer on more than one occasion before last night. Once for the launch of the Chopard jewelry collab in 2022, and most recently for the Lovers & Friends concert, and they were both black with some gold. (Friday 2 February 2024; 19:58)

Recording Academy Global Impact Award (105,209) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I’ve never heard of this award. Why is Mariah paying dust or why is it exciting? Can someone educate me on this history? (I’m being sincere, I’m totally ignorant to this award.) Thank you for explaining the polarization on this award convo. (Friday 2 February 2024; 05:05) this is a reply to message 105,206

Recording Academy Global Impact Award (105,206) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Pretty sure they reached out to her and got confirmation she'll attend before announcing this. While Grammy's have played her dirty and honestly doesn't make much impact nowadays, the publicity is good build up to her next era. (Friday 2 February 2024; 00:52)

Tacking on two Memoirs songs to MIAMTEC (105,198) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I agree. I think she should have added Triumphant (Vintage remix, with the full rain intro - that should have been the actual single imo), plus the ASAP Rocky Beautiful remix, and call it a day. I absolutely don't understand the America the Beautiful inclusion or a rehash of six year old material. My only guess is that Mary J's label and the sex predictor's labels had a contractual obligation that the songs must be included on an official release, which didn't happen with Angels Advocate, as intended. Also the album art should have been the original Art of Letting Go art (either the one where it's her looking over in the bottom right corner or the actual AOLG single artwork). The standard version that's a Emancipation/E=MC2 redo wasn't the right serve, it was redundant. (Wednesday 31 January 2024; 23:37) this is a reply to message 105,195

Tacking on two Memoirs songs to MIAMTEC (105,195) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Those would 100% be better choices than the random picks from years ago. "Triumphant" to this day remains a good song for me. It was just not the right choice for a lead single (which let's be real it was gonna be a lead but the failure to chart led it to being labelled a buzz single) at that time because people were hungry for new Mariah music and her being basically the chorus girl on the song didn't translate well to the listeners. But I love the video and the song. (Wednesday 31 January 2024; 18:36)

Muni Long (105,186) by Matty from Vancouver Canada What a Lamb hot spot. Hahahaha. Damn, I fly out Friday, it would be fun to meet in person Jamie. (Tuesday 30 January 2024; 19:30) this is a reply to message 105,185

Muni Long (105,185) by Jamie from UK Ah I stay on Peachtree when I go to ATL. I’m there Friday. (Tuesday 30 January 2024; 16:41)

Muni Long (105,180) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Robert-Anthony, this is so random. I'm in ATL for work this week and staying on Peachtree St. Hahahaha Vancouver to Atlanta couldn't be farther apart, yet here I sit in my hotel room on Peachtree St. on my first night here. I haven't been to ATL in almost four years. What a random coincidence. (Tuesday 30 January 2024; 06:54) this is a reply to message 105,179

Muni Long (105,179) by Bobby A from United States That pre-chorus section gets me everytime. I miss Atlanta because of the slow jam ballads like Made For Me bumping in my speakers with the top down cruising on Peachtree Street. (Tuesday 30 January 2024; 00:56)

Could be Epic ... queen of reimagining (105,166) by Matty from Vancouver Canada What if Mariah, queen of reimagining music, released an album that is 10 tracks long - all the exact same lyrics, but reimagined as a Jazz album, Dance/disco album, Indi Rock album (ah la Ugly Daughter) and gospel album. Literally the same lyrics on all four (and it would be sold as one album, not four separate ones), but completely reimagined to suite all four genres. I could see her getting her due flowers for doing something like that. Especially given her influence on the "remix" culture she's helped build for years. (Monday 29 January 2024; 00:33)

Who is Caution about? (105,165) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Ohhh interesting about 8th Grade being about Ben. I have always heard 8th Grade as a song about a predator (however you want to interpret that). It sounds like one of MC's most personal songs to me. it's interesting that 8th Grade and her eternally 12 mantra have a correlation time wise. Her memoir gives a lot to be desired about what really happed to Miss M. at that time in her life. I think more happened than she really shares imo. (Monday 29 January 2024; 00:26) this is a reply to message 105,143

Who is Caution about? (105,143) by Bobby A from United States I think Giving Me Life is about Derek Jeter or Mark Sudak. Both men gave her a happy relationship for a moment in time. Although, Mark Sudak was too behind the scenes probably for MC to married. Did she ever take him to Aspen? 8th Grade is about Ben Marguiles. The Distance is most definitely about Tanaka. Great topic, Matty. (Sunday 28 January 2024; 00:36)

Who is Caution about? (105,164) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Giving Me Life is absolutely my favourite track on Caution, it's possibly one of my favourite Mariah tracks ever. It's the vibe I love when Mariah channels. Silky, smooth, laid back, tells a story, poetic. (Monday 29 January 2024; 00:23) this is a reply to message 105,140

Who is Caution about? (105,140) by Stacey from USA Giving Me Life is my favorite song off Caution. I'm curious what your thoughts are on who or what the song is about. Thoughts? (Saturday 27 January 2024; 22:49)

If you think (105,132) by Matty from Vancouver Canada If you think trans issues are equated to castration. Get educated. Castration has nothing to do with trans issues and if you think that somehow effects your "masculinity", say like putting on "colleague" vs. "perfume"; you need a long, deep view in the mirror (which will be hard and sad for you). Penises vs. vulva don't define a soul. If you choose to believe it does... ok. It's a discussion about social norms. It's not about genitals. Let's get back to Mariah. (Saturday 27 January 2024; 22:10)

Political (105,130) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Are we able to discuss Mariah without these deep dug political beliefs? Mariah has fans that are queer, trans, "straight" (whatever that means, I'm speaking to you cucks), lesbian, bi, straight edge, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, voodoo etc. What are you the few of you going off on? If you don't understand the trans experience, then don't engage if it pains you. Sexuality is a spectrum, not a binary category. If you don't understand, the least you can do is not demean someone else. Mariah has supporters of every single demographic in the world. The world needs relaxation, not a demand of direction. (Saturday 27 January 2024; 21:54)

Who is Caution about? (105,129) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Who do we think Caution is about? GTFO - Stella (it's not about a man, it's about an insincere grifter) With You - Tanaka A No No - Stella again "Snake in the grass". 8th Grade - The first time Mariah was abused and violated. The Distance - The anthem of what we are told all fairy tails wish for, it's the hope. Thoughts? (Saturday 27 January 2024; 21:43)

Starboy (105,071) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm confused what people are asking, do you want Mariah to have another [hit] that resonates with young listeners, or try and reignite the fire that was the holy trinity of the '90's (Mariah, Whitney, Celine)? I want Mariah to have a smash dance hit that breaks her mold. We talk about how [Charmbracelet] walked, so TEOM could sprint. I have the same feeling about Caution. it was a precursor to what we will experience next. On a different note, who said "no one expected Mariah to speak like that" in regard to GTFO? GTFO, and the [remix] she's on for Unforgettable ("Sip on this drink 'till I'm [censored] up"), even "Clown" from [Charmbracelet] ("I should've never given you my [censored] two way") she sings the "f-word". Mariah's success is based on her versatility. Christmas to f-bombs. I personally love it. (Wednesday 24 January 2024; 18:26) this is a reply to message 105,070

Starboy (105,070) by MusicfanJ from Germany I also can't stand A.I. Please no Starboy sound. There's really no soul on it, almost spooky. Maybe a 14 year old won't recognize, but after a few seconds it was getting creepy. (Wednesday 24 January 2024; 17:08)

E=MC2 + Glitter + Gospel (105,055) by Matty from Vancouver Canada My dream for the new album is a party atmosphere; like E=MC2 mixed with Glitter, and add in some choir gospel at the end. I love the arrangement of the Glitter vinyl opposed to the standard track order. I wish MC would always group the bangers, and then the ballads and gospel. The banger followed by a slow jam has always irked me. If you’re having a house party, you want all the bangers together so you don’t have to skip a track. (Tuesday 23 January 2024; 21:20)

Andrew (105,015) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I couldn't express myself better then what you said David; he has deterred me from engaging on the board or even visiting it many many times. Any break I've taken on this board is because of how immature and disrespectful his behaviour is. He has this disturbing inability to not understanding everyone has opinions and there's no king of the correct perspective. I've honestly thought how dreadful it would be to have to know this person in the physical world. (Saturday 20 January 2024; 00:22) this is a reply to message 105,013

Andrew (105,013) by David from USA But when will this ban be permanent? I've posted about his abusive nature several times. I think what you, as Webmaster, might want to realize is that he is detrimental to your traffic. I have literally stopped coming to your site for months at a time because I can't bear to read his hate speech. He posts constantly and permeates the entire message board, and it repels me from the entire site. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Food for thought. Other than that, I enjoy your site and thank you for it, but I'm an infrequent visitor here solely because of Andrew. (Friday 19 January 2024; 22:30)

Kardashian vs. Stella (104,993) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm sorry, if you think the Kardashian are in the same sphere or level as Stella, you're taking too many hallucinations. It's Vogue (Kardashians) vs. National Enquirer (Stella). It's that simple, despite how you saw the Kardashians 10 years ago with their original faces and bodies. Time and opinions have marched on past from how they began. I'm not understanding how people can compare. (Thursday 18 January 2024; 05:59)

Clarity clarification (104,644) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I was hoping to have a convo about the albums we think MC has a crystal clear vocal album. Not sales. What albums could be sung without production or background? Emancipation is very well produced, the debut is extremely produced. Got me? (Sunday 24 December 2023; 20:52) this is a reply to message 104,643

Clarity (104,643) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Not the conversation I was trying to have, but yes Edward. (Sunday 24 December 2023; 18:37)

Clarity (104,643) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Not the conversation I was trying to have, but yes Edward. (Sunday 24 December 2023; 18:37) this is a reply to message 104,637

Clarity (104,637) by Edward from USA Merry Christmas has gone from 5x Platinum to 9x Platinum in just four years. It has sold about 300K this Christmas season so far. Caution is not even close to reach gold status and Mariah Carey is stuck at 9x Platinum since the late 90's. I would say Merry Christmas is loved by most. (Sunday 24 December 2023; 13:26)

Clarity (104,636) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Do you think Merry Christmas is Mariah's most globally adored album, because of its clarity? I personally like MCII more than MCI, however I have been listening to MCI recently on vinyl, and I feel like the production on MCI allows Mariah's voice to be clear and admired and takes a beat to breath. What other Mariah albums are as vocally forward as Merry Christmas? I would suggest Emotions, Emancipation, Caution. Those are the most vocally clear albums in my opinion. Thoughts? (Sunday 24 December 2023; 03:34)

Obsessed in the UK (104,579) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I think Mariah caving to the auto tune trend and also a vocalist singing "sexing me" was a bit hard for the radio audience to digest. The Jump Smokers remix is the best version, the OG isn't a fast song or a slow song, it's a challenge to know where it fits. However, The music video and response to Eminem's harassment is legendary. (Sunday 17 December 2023; 23:52) this is a reply to message 104,577

Obsessed in the UK (104,577) by Zachariah from Croatia I think usage of auto tune throw people away from loving it to the fullest. Plus the remix with Gucci Mane was just the same song with extra male verse. (Sunday 17 December 2023; 22:19)

AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,571) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm not surprised. RATCT is at no. 25 on Canadian iTunes atm. Ahead of Brenda is MC, Sia (Snowman) and Kelly Clarkson (Underneath the Tree) Christmas tunes. (Sunday 17 December 2023; 12:43) this is a reply to message 104,570

AIWFCIY back at #1 (104,570) by Edward from USA Mariah is way ahead of Brenda in airplay, way ahead. As we get closer to Christmas, AIWFCIY is gaining more momentum. (Sunday 17 December 2023; 02:17)

Mariah Carey in the UK (104,566) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Andrew, thank you for the response. When you approach your opinion with kindness and thoughtfulness rather than mud slinging, your perspective is appreciated and understandable. I get what you're saying. I've had friends tell me they love her voice and music, but grapple with her persona. I love her persona and humour, but do get why she's a hard pill to swallow at times for some. I can't stand Madonna because of her persona, so I get it. (Saturday 16 December 2023; 20:13) this is a reply to message 104,559

Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559) by Andrew from the UK Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999. It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing. But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed". I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically. Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again. N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that. (Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)

MC, Ariana and JHud (104,553) by Matty from Vancouver Canada Oh crap, I responded to Voldemort. That was a personal failure on my part. Sorry. It might be true that some of us look for something different in Mariah than others. Some wish Mariah was something she's never been; and some of us treasure who she is and what her humanity and artistry has to offer this world. (Friday 15 December 2023; 19:01) this is a reply to message 104,548

MC, Ariana and JHud (104,548) by Andrew from the UK You are a laughable misleader of gargantuan proportion. I don't object to you believing whatever it is you need to believe to maintain a level of comfort in your mind - it is your life and if you are so fragile then do whatever is you need to do to live your best. But rational people will and must object when you and your ilk try to paint the false narrative true in other people's minds in order for your own suspension of disbelief to be maintained. That you give that performance a 6, also, smacks of disingenuousness. Either that, or you're just lost irredeemably inside delusion and/or galactically stupid and/or have absolutely no knowledge of the details of Mariah Carey's live performance history. (Friday 15 December 2023; 10:43)

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