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About Randy from USA: MC is my favorite artist of all time and I love her songwriting skills on her introspective songs. My favorite album: Butterfly. My favorite song: Right To Dream.

Bliss (103,068) by Randy from USA Paula Cole: Not the Amazon running between her thighs lol and I can't do You're Making Me High. I might start singing in the middle of the act. Back to MC. I'm tryna think of another sexy, nasty song and I can't think of one. Maybe After Tonight, someone said One More 'Gen but I'm drawing a blank here. I remember Wendy Williams saying she couldn't even picture MC having sex. Then Eminem claimed he masturbated on her belly and she acted like his semen was toxic waste and panicked "Get it off me." Maybe she's anatomically like a Barbie doll. Oh wait she had dem babies. Gee I hope Eric publishes this. (Monday 24 July 2023; 14:35) this is a reply to message 103,067

Bliss (103,067) by Norman from USA Randy, this is going to sound out of left field, but check out Paula Cole's "Feelin' Love". It just - yeah. Oh, and I always add Toni's You're Making Me High. (Monday 24 July 2023; 06:32)

Bliss (103,063) by Randy from USA Don't laugh. Bliss is on my sex playlist. Along with Janet Jackson's Would You Mind. Rope Burn, Toni Braxton's Maybe, Trey Songz Neighbors Know My Name, Janet Jackson's Anytime Anyplace, Usher's Dot.com, Madonna's Justify My Love, Ciara's Promise, Twista's Rain Down on Me, Ashanti's Rescue, Beyoncé's Speechless. TLC's Red Light Special, George Michael's Father Figure. Bliss is the only MC song I can be horizontal with another with. Hey, ya'll promised not to laugh. Check out some of these songs if you don't know them. (Sunday 23 July 2023; 04:26) this is a reply to message 103,060

Bliss (103,060) by Lady B from USA I listened to Bliss again for the first time in a long time. So hauntingly beautiful, slowly building sensuality, a strikingly different use of the whistle, lustful ballad. One of my favorites. I think it's highly underrated. (Saturday 22 July 2023; 14:33)

You messing with Daydream? (103,049) by Randy from USA Ahem. Butterfly is her magnum opus. Daydream is second. But I would never slam Daydream. It was the first CD I owned by her. Everything before that was cassette. And about banning Andrew. Isn't that request getting old. Kinda like me talking about 1997, Right to Dream and the 2006 Grammy cut and paste job. We are a dysfunctional family. All of us are needed. Terna gets on my last nerve and I would never want him banned or to stop posting. We love everybody. (Friday 21 July 2023; 15:42) this is a reply to message 103,048

You messing with Daydream? (103,048) by Edward from USA It is just perfect from start to finish. It's definitely her magnum opus. (Friday 21 July 2023; 14:16)

Fantasy (103,038) by Randy from USA Ed and Zach y'all are both wrong. There is a version on the maxi single that has the ODB version with the pop chorus on it. It is the best version. And this whole thing about being dressed and unhappy vs. scantily clad and jubilant. I would be fine with MC wearing pasties, clear plastic platform stilettos and a G-string if she was replicating her new music vocals live on stage without cut and paste playback and a wall of background singers. I don't care about the image. I care about the undeniable talent being present at all times. Even on live TV. (Wednesday 19 July 2023; 19:34) this is a reply to message 103,037

Emotionally stiff (103,037) by Edward from USA "Daydream was only huge because of Fantasy remix with O.D.B. and One Sweet Day. The rest of the album is just copycat of those two singles." Uh... No. While the O.D.B remix was more popular, I've always preferred her solo version. There are better songs on Daydream than "Fantasy" and "One Sweet Day", way better. I won't tell you "copycat my ass" because that would be inappropriate to say on this board, but "Underneath the Stars" is far better than OSD, just to name one. (Wednesday 19 July 2023; 19:07)

Time for lists lol (103,034) by Randy from USA David. I laughed out loud at Andrew because his love language is sarcasm and British snarkiness. The world would be full of toxic positivity without him. You ever watch the Matrix. What is that architect's purpose? To balance the equation. What is Andrew's purpose? To unbalance it. And you guys, how did I forget Right To Dream, Anytime You Need a Friend. Can I redo my list? If anyone should be banned it should be me. I constantly bring up 1997, smoke and mirrors and Right To Dream being the best song ever written and recorded by any artist living, dead, or on Mars. I love everyone. Because right now we need it. (Wednesday 19 July 2023; 14:21) this is a reply to message 103,028

Time for lists lol (103,028) by David from USA Webmaster: Can this guy get banned from the messageboard already? Literally every time I come on here - which is not that often anymore because of the negativity and hate being spewed - I see angry, abusive posts by this person. It's time to stop enabling him, it's time to ban him from the messageboard. (Wednesday 19 July 2023; 03:10)

Time for lists lol (103,023) by Randy from USA So since there's no news right now, let's do our favorite MC singles (releases, sent to radio or video made) that didn't go to number 1. 10. GTFO 9. Never Too Far 8. Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme) 7. Loverboy 6. Never Forget You/Without You 5. Breakdown 4. Bye Bye 3. Can't Let Go 2. Through The Rain 1. Butterfly (Tuesday 18 July 2023; 20:35)

Languishing (103,000) by Randy from USA Definitely in my top ten songs by her. As soon as I read your post, I started singing it and my eyes welled up. I'm going through some things. Sometimes I find myself singing it when I'm putting on airs. I wonder would you cry for me if you knew. This is what music is supposed to do. And now I understand why MC wants us to relate rather than tell us who a song is written about. Although I think it's safe to say Side Effects is about Tommy. (Wednesday 12 July 2023; 03:11) this is a reply to message 102,996

Languishing (102,996) by Andrew from the UK I always thought Mariah had somewhat diminished that power and poignancy of Languishing by calling it an interlude. I recall many others here many years ago feeling the same. Maybe Mariah means (in one fell swoop with just one word) in a song about damage to your person caused by the emotional abuse you received from a lover long ago is not forever. That is to say: the misery must be seen as an interlude in your life. That it is not what makes your story. That it is only what interrupted it. (Tuesday 11 July 2023; 22:19)

Emotionally stiff (102,985) by Randy from USA One of the things I never understood is why journalists who review her albums call her ballads emotionally stiff. Since I've had a little time on my hands, I've been reading Rolling Stone, Slant, LA Times, New York Times and others' reviews of her albums that were written when the albums came out. We didn't have access to the internet back then haha. But they all seem to say the problem with Music Box, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter are the ballads because she's emotion-less. I don't get what they want. My All, And You Don't Remember, Never Forget You, Against All Odds and Lead The Way are every bit as emotional as Celine's All By Myself or Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. What exactly did they want from MC? (Sunday 9 July 2023; 20:24)

End times scenario (102,974) by Randy from USA I just had a thought. Rare. I realized that MC's 19 number 1s record is nowhere near in jeopardy. Today's audience doesn't have the attention span to pay attention that long to an artist. I remember a few years when Wendy predicted Rihanna would overtake MC. Rihanna doesn't even have the attention span. She focused on Fenty and stopped making music and she's stepped down from Fenty, at least running it, to be a mom. And how long is Billboard gonna matter if no one is buying music? And then the complex digital units, streaming platforms, radio and YouTube videos have to be calculated now. When will they start counting TikTok use? Use in streaming TV, use in figure skating programs? Don't laugh because figure skating is now only streamed live because musicians sued per licensing. You can watch it but you can't replay it. Then how likely are companies to merge, be bought, or go out of business? Will Spotify be bought by Nabisco and change its name to Cookie Music? Will TikTok be banned by congress? Mariah's Heat would be censored from Facebook these days. How many times would Billboard then have to change its formula? All jokes aside, I'm surprised there are still charts. I hate to say this but Generation X and Millennials may have witnessed the last days of music having consumption numbers attached. (Thursday 6 July 2023; 20:20)

Mariah's a songwriter? (102,927) by Randy from USA I had no idea. I just thought she stood on stage in a black gown and sang Hero one dimensionally. I thought because she's a terrible piano player and doesn't play guitar that there was no way she could write songs. I've seen every interview she's ever done and she's never mentioned it. I was under the impression that MC and Mimi wrote most of her songs. I thought Casio wrote All I Want For Christmas is You. I thought Gloria Estefan wrote Hero. I thought Eminem wrote Clown. I thought those scribbling noises on Faded were mice scurrying across the floor. I thought she was just drawing stick figures in her journal during the Can't Take That Away video. I thought that section of her writing Never Too Far in Glitter was just acting part of the script. My Butterfly can now fly over the Rainbow abandonedly. I agree Kelly, Mariah is not recognized as a songwriter. (Friday 23 June 2023; 21:24)

The BET Award nominations 2023 are finally here (102,862) by Randy from USA When I saw this article I had to go back and watch MC's performance with Latto. It was so sweet to see Latto give props and flowers to MC. The industry is really starting to piss me off between the Grammys and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. No MC can't win everything but give her her flowers. Before they died, I feel like Whitney, Luther, MJ and Prince were given proper tributes and accolades. Now that Celine is sick, does that mean they'll give her a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction and MC will be overlooked yet again? All we have left from our era is MC, Janet and Madonna. Give MC her flowers. (Friday 9 June 2023; 15:01)

Wait wait wait (102,819) by Randy from USA Sheryl Crow? They are inducting Sheryl Crow over Mariah Carey in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Look I like Soak Up The Sun but she doesn't have any of the statistics MC has. For a 9 time Grammy award winner, she has no number ones and has sold 50 million albums. Whitney, Janet, Madonna have all made it in. No MC? Come on industry. (Monday 5 June 2023; 12:26)

Best song intro (102,777) by Randy from USA Both Vision of Love and Fantasy (the pop version) have this dramatic ominous tone that lets you know some sh*t is about to go down. (Saturday 27 May 2023; 18:13) this is a reply to message 102,774

Best song intro (102,774) by Robert-Anthony from United States The intro to Fantasy is MC's best song intro. (Saturday 27 May 2023; 04:02)

Martyn Hett (102,766) by Randy from USA Andrew, you and I have had our ups and downs but the fact that you make sure that this board memorializes Martyn yearly, warms my spirit and speaks strongly of your heart. I and this board misses you. And we miss Martyn. I know this board squabbles but we are definitely family and regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender or nationality, we all love MC and deep down we now all love each other. Martyn always showed love to Mariah and all of us. May he rest in paradise. (Wednesday 24 May 2023; 22:34) this is a reply to message 102,755

Martyn Hett (102,755) by Andrew from the UK Hi Eric. It is good to see your website still going strong. Six years have passed since Martyn's light was so sadly extinguished at the Manchester Arena (May 22, 2016). Martyn was effortlessly fair-minded, generous of spirit and had a wonderful sense of humour. His death and the deaths of those other souls who perished in the attack was senseless. I wonder if you would mark the anniversary of his passing somehow on your site as he was, if anything, one of the all-time greatest Mariah fans and an avid visitor to your messageboard. So much time has now passed that it is not difficult to forget and move on. But I thought perhaps to remind you to rekindle the memory of him in those that may still post on your board who posted way way back when... that he was here, he was as one of us and (as in his favourite song) he will be loved till the end of time. I wish you well. Andrew. (Monday 22 May 2023; 00:49)

My issue with Rainbow (102,753) by Randy from USA I think your problem with me is that I speak the truth and always have receipts. And yes I will be a broken record until we find out what happened in 1997. But I said some positive things about Rainbow the album. I waited outside of Sam Goody for 20 minutes until they opened. I had the Rainbow album cover on the back of my bathroom door. I don't hate MC. Never did. I hate MC's deceit. And I still love you Terna. (Sunday 21 May 2023; 15:18) this is a reply to message 102,752

My issue with Rainbow (102,752) by Terna from Nigeria Excuse you? Speak for yourself Robert. The only thing he leads here is negativity and confusion, trying to bring Mariah down with every chance he gets. As well as being a broken record that plays only two songs. "What happened to her voice since 1997" and "Right to dream". (Sunday 21 May 2023; 14:11)

My issue with Rainbow (102,748) by Randy from USA I swear, I really do not come here to be negative. But that era introduced something insidious. Mariah's first lip sync was on the Oprah show in 1997 when she lipped Butterfly. Afterwards she sang everything for Butterfly and #1s live. When the promotion for Rainbow started that's when she started regularly lipping climaxes. Look at the ten thousand performances of Can't Take That Away. I agree with you the album is amazing from start to finish. But that was around the time Mariah started deceiving us live so I can't wave the Rainbow flag. (Sunday 21 May 2023; 02:18)

Good Lord, just enjoy the show (102,715) by Randy from USA I was taken aback by your original message but hell, I say what I want so you should be able to too. We are a dysfunctional family so it's no need to apologize. I think what's also frustrating to the negatives is that even though Christina Aguilera, Fantasia have lost some range, they still sound like themselves during the verses of their songs and only may struggle or duck the climaxes. MC doesn't even seem to be able to sing her verses. And to add insult to injury, to see Xscape, Chanté Moore and Patti Labelle still burning stages down in the last two years. Yea, I know. I know. MC has nodules, her voice is different, she has nuances in the way she sings, belting is boring as hell, the stage was too hot, the dressing room was too cold, she has the sniffles, a black cat crossed her path etc. You get the drift. (Thursday 11 May 2023; 23:29) this is a reply to message 102,713

Good Lord, just enjoy the show (102,713) by jaker20 from US I'm sorry for causing drama, I knew as soon as I clicked submit, I regretted it immediately. You all have the right to criticize MC, but sometimes the words so extra. The suggestion that she has to get a surgery is a bit much, but I know you have every right to say what you want. I was just disappointed. I enjoyed the show, and then when I come here, it's all negative. And it is the same all the time. Maybe I am just not getting it. Maybe I am living in another dimension. But some lambs are just happy to see Mariah, and maybe I have low standards lol, and then each time after that, you come here and it's all negative. I already know that her voice is not the same. So I don't have these high standards, so I just enjoy the music and seeing her out and performing on stage having fun with everyone is all that matters. I'm sorry again, I didn't mean to be harsh. (Thursday 11 May 2023; 17:38)

Randy follow up (102,694) by Randy from USA That would be three but what kills me about this whole thing is how the internet keeps giving her writing credits. The only reason I thought she co-wrote All My Life was because if you google it all of the sites say she wrote it with Rick James. I don't know why she didn't collaborate on Almost Home. Isn't that Stargate whom she's worked with before? But yea the internet has me stating the wrong information and you know how much I'm about the truth. (Tuesday 9 May 2023; 01:23) this is a reply to message 102,693

Randy follow up (102,693) by Bill from the UK Hi Randy, not that I'm one to spend my life trying to disprove others, but I knew deep down in my soul something was telling me Mariah didn't write "Almost Home" and I finally remembered. It was in her memoir, she wrote this: "I love to collaborate with people, but in the rare instances when I've done other people's songs, I haven't liked it. There was a Disney song I did five, six years ago called "Almost Home", and I never really liked it. No offence to whoever wrote it, and I did it because Disney wanted me to do it, but it didn't feel like me at all." So where does this leave us with our tally? (Monday 8 May 2023; 23:38)

Maybe I'm missing something? (102,683) by Randy from USA So I watched the concert and to be honest, this is how MC has sounded since Caution. No better no worse. The strained sustained notes to prove she can sing. The cutting up of long notes and adding stacatto "hey hey". The moments of clarity that we all know are backing tracks. Background singers singing verses that don't have backgrounds on verses on the original. The fidgeting with the ear monitor. The tossing the hair from side to side when she lips a note in case she miscounted how long to keep her mouth open. All of this is normal. So to come here and see you guys say it's a new low or it's bad baffles me. Some of you are acting like the house just caught fire. It burned down a long time ago. (Monday 8 May 2023; 12:39)

All My Life (102,666) by Randy from USA Bill, I stand corrected. On the innanet (webmaster please leave that spelling for dramatic effect) people have wrongfully given MC a songwriting credit, but I checked my Glitter CD and you are right. Rick James wrote All My Life. Then, me being the nerd I am, looked to see if it is a cover from one of his album cuts or something. It's not. There is a rumor that it's an old song he wrote for the Mary Jane girls but that can't be substantiated. So here's where we unreal fans stand. There are two songs in the Mariah Carey catalogue that she has recorded that are not remakes that she did not have a hand in writing. When You Believe and All My Life. (Saturday 6 May 2023; 12:27)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,660) by Randy from USA Ummmm Bill dahling, I did some digging and MC is given writing credits on both All My Life and Almost Home so I think my statement stands. When You Believe is the only original song she has recorded with no writing credit on. Webmaster E. That's your rap name. I think the award is for the lyrics and melody. I don't think it was awarded for only the film version or they would've had the actresses sing it at the Oscars and not MC and Whitney. I think no matter what you do to a song musically, the lyric and melody credit always goes to the original songwriter and the producer that adds to or changes it still doesn't get writing credit, just whatever producer credit he's entitled to because he added to it. (Friday 5 May 2023; 04:48) this is a reply to message 102,657

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,657) by Bill from the UK All My Life from Glitter and Almost Home were also original songs that Mariah didn't write. (Thursday 4 May 2023; 23:34)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,655) by Randy from USA The award goes to the songwriter. That I believe is the only original song, she's ever done that she didn't write. (Thursday 4 May 2023; 22:17) this is a reply to message 102,653

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,653) by MusicfanJ from Germany I thought she did win an Oscar for "When you believe" with Whitney? I think I misunderstood it. But yes, an Oscar for a movie song should be possible. (Thursday 4 May 2023; 20:10)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,650) by Randy from USA Edward, I think that original song Oscar could be hers. Eminem and John Legend have won it. Almost Home and Right To Dream are great songs. You know I'm the eternal optimist. (Wednesday 3 May 2023; 21:07) this is a reply to message 102,649

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,649) by Edward from USA She'll eventually be inducted, Randy, just be patient. As for an EGOT, well, she could definitely get an EGT. Even if her fairy godmother turned her into a great actress, I doubt she would ever get an Oscar. It's OK though, she doesn't need it. I've always pictured 90's Mariah playing Sandy on a Grease remake. (Wednesday 3 May 2023; 20:58)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,647) by Randy from USA So again MC doesn't make it? And every relevant pop diva has (Madonna, Janet and Whitney). I'm disgusted. But yass queens and delusionals will say she doesn't need it, she's broken records and she's a legend in her own right. The Tony award nomination is exciting. Imagine if MC was to eventually earn an EGOT. She should've been nominated for an Oscar for Right To Dream. Oh shut up y'all. (Wednesday 3 May 2023; 17:25)

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

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