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About Terna from Nigeria: Fan since 1998 - The "Butterfly" Era. Fave Era - The Emancipation of Mimi, watching her break that Night was Everything.

You messing with Daydream? (103,055) by Terna from Nigeria Yet she pays it absolute dust and only acknowledges ABMB. Just throw that whole record and era away and put in a year's vacation for her to rest her voice, with no world tour and especially that date you attended (hehe) and maybe Mariah would still have a little semblance of voice left. That Daydream era and world tour ruined her voice. (Friday 21 July 2023; 22:37) this is a reply to message 103,047

You messing with Daydream? (103,047) by Bill from the UK I never thought I'd see the day where Daydream gets slammed on this board. Wow. It's honestly perfect from start to finish. (Friday 21 July 2023; 13:27)

Time for lists lol (103,046) by Terna from Nigeria He's been banned multiple times over the years, and he keeps coming back. (Friday 21 July 2023; 12:58) this is a reply to message 103,028

Time for lists lol (103,028) by David from USA Webmaster: Can this guy get banned from the messageboard already? Literally every time I come on here - which is not that often anymore because of the negativity and hate being spewed - I see angry, abusive posts by this person. It's time to stop enabling him, it's time to ban him from the messageboard. (Wednesday 19 July 2023; 03:10)

Good news (102,971) by Terna from Nigeria This is exactly why she's gained the new title "Social Media Queen". Haha, she's about the only artist from her time who's songs keep resurging and trending unexpectedly as we've witnessed so many times. I would say "All I want for Christmas is You" has a big part in this trend for her since it tops the chart every year. And this is just one facet to the title, another is her "Isms", "sayings" and "drags" so to speak. Haha. That infamous "I don't know her" line did not help. Mariah is that It girl what more can be said? She stays winning. (Thursday 6 July 2023; 09:12) this is a reply to message 102,966

Good news (102,966) by Mariahsbaby from usa For some reason older generations seem to have a problem with Tik Tok, but the app remains one of the most popular ones and it's the most popular app for teens. Mariah is ascending and securing her place for the future. Good news for the day: Touch My Body had its biggest day ever on Spotify receiving over 200k streams. The woman released her 18 #1 hit 18 years later and now 15 years later going viral. Mariah has always been ahead of time. (Wednesday 5 July 2023; 09:24)

MC's next era (102,956) by Terna from Nigeria Gospel, original songs like she's done exceptionally well like with "Fly like a Bird", "My Saving Grace" and Even "Vision of Love". I want inspiration from her personal work with the Most High to be testified on record, the calling is there. But her voice needs to be in top shape for this. She's already done something with the Clark Sisters if I recall from the rumor mill. Mariah you can do it, we're rooting for you. (Monday 3 July 2023; 12:59) this is a reply to message 102,950

MC's next era (102,950) by Brandon from USA What would you guys like to see for MC's next era? What type of music do [you] want to hear? What would [you] like to see visually (videos, performances, ensembles, hairstyles, etc)? (Sunday 2 July 2023; 19:35)

My All (102,937) by Terna from Nigeria This song needs to be retired from her set list for good. Mariah has never sung this song anything like on the record, talk less of singing it better. It is also one of her harder songs to sing because it's built like a tradition ballad and keeps building and has a clear big climax, she is yet to do justice to 25 plus years later. I don't know why she still keeps on singing this particular song in every show, that makes her vocal decline so obvious. (Wednesday 28 June 2023; 22:27)

Where are you Christmas (102,905) by Terna from Nigeria Fun fact. In the days of the early Internet, there was Napster and then iMesh, Limewire etc. But there was this website known as "Audiogalaxy" that literally used to crawl the internet and find every and any song and you'll just tile them up and it will download the Mp3 files in queue. I found many unreleased material there including what I now think maybe was her version of this song Together with her vocal stems for "One Sweet Day" (we heard this awhile back) and "Endless love". I recorded them on tape and deleted the files. Ugh, Anyone have a time machine? Shortly after the site was taken down asap. (Saturday 17 June 2023; 21:10) this is a reply to message 102,893

Where are you Christmas (102,893) by Robert-Anthony from United States The website Secondhand Songs is reporting that MC originally recorded WAYC, but because of a legal case against Tommy Mottolla the song could not be released. What legal case did MC have with Tommy back in 2000? That is the first time that I have heard of a legal case in 2000. So there has to be MC's originally track in the vault somewhere. I don't like Josie Aiello's version from the Mannheim Steamroller Christmasville soundtrack. It doesn't have that polish pop sound like Faith Hill's version. Aiello's version is on the Secondhand Songs website. (Thursday 15 June 2023; 16:47)

MB30 (102,904) by Terna from Nigeria "Music Box" is one of her core albums to me, and the only album to capture the sheer vocal power she possessed back then but for quite a short time. The vocals on it match Whitney Houston in forte, her range seems endless, and her tone most fluid and buttery. This is also the era when she sang songs live better than on the record - case in point "Hero" from Proctor's Theater. One thing I do notice however is that her whistles are weak on this record and not really the focus of her vocals. This was also the first time we got to hear Mariah sing high falsetto on "Dreamlover". (Saturday 17 June 2023; 20:52) this is a reply to message 102,897

MB30 (102,897) by TJ from Norway I love that album, too. Not a big fan of the two uptempos (track number 5 and 8?), but the rest is just perfect. I've been driving to work singing "Hero" every day for a month now, trying to face another day ( kidding). I love my work. (Friday 16 June 2023; 15:58)

Who is she kidding? (102,876) by Terna from Nigeria I beg to differ, fluidity is back, well not completely but it's much better than a year ago, her tone is warm again like there's substance there not that dry nasal sound, that annoying scratch anytime she was trying to belt is gone, resonance in her upper belts have reappeared. I hear a recovering voice and she's not trying to overdo it - she knows her voice is in repair mode. (Do you think Mariah doesn't know her voice?) This was one of the biggest complaints Whitney Houston's voice coach had that he spoke about during the aftermath of her demise. He said Whitney's voice was so resilient and repaired very quickly but at the slightest semblance of function she would relax, do shows and then it was back to square one. I get that sense Mariah has read all our posts and finally got round to seeking professional help. It's evident in her sound from the Pride concert. She sounds like '98 again minus a few bumps here and there. (Monday 12 June 2023; 23:13) this is a reply to message 102,873

Who is she kidding? (102,873) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway She can't sing a note anymore. (Monday 12 June 2023; 20:53)

New music (102,853) by Terna from Nigeria I'm looking forward to unreleased stuff from the beginning like recall that tracklisting from around 2015, songs that didn't make the final cut from the debut. Maybe she'll redo the album as Rarities 2 as most have pointed out here, but I kind of want a different title, so it can stand out and on its own, not just a sequel of. I also have a feeling Mariah has something up her sleeve like a whole studio album already done - high quality like "The Emancipation Of Mimi", "Butterfly" and "Daydream". Her speaking voice does sound better of late and that's a good thing. (Thursday 8 June 2023; 14:34)

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,852) by Terna from Nigeria Now ask yourself this. "Which one of those other so called popular females has that Christmas flex?" After she's been the queen of music already. Exactly my point, none. (Thursday 8 June 2023; 14:08) this is a reply to message 102,843

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,843) by Bill from the UK I completely agree. For three years, Mariah was incredibly popular across the globe and no one really compared. However, those three years plus her US-only number one records does not mean she is the most popular female singer ever/today and should therefore be sitting atop every single list ever, unfortunately. As fans of hers, we are mired in her success and statistics, but looking at it objectively, it's clear and obvious as to why she wouldn't feature on that list and the others didn't. It's nothing for anyone to be upset about, there's nothing to be done about it. Ask yourself what has she done since last Christmas? The Christmas before that? The Christmas before that? A couple of lipped concerts and an endorsement for McDonalds. (Wednesday 7 June 2023; 08:16)

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,838) by Terna from Nigeria You just speak with opinions and try to pass them off as facts. First things first, the era Mariah reigned supreme - the 90's - cannot be compared with this day we live in with the internet, streaming, YouTube and social media. Mariah had none of these and still had her foot on every other single artists necks, Both male and female. Her numbers speak volumes - this is someone as young as she was, went toe to toe with Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Céline Dion, Toni Braxton, Michael Bolton, Sheryl Crowe, Alanis Morrisette, The Spice Girls, Mary J. Blige, Tevin Campbell, Aaliyah, Brandy, Prince, Monica, Madonna Boyz II Men etc all of whom it should be noted were also in their prime, And still came out on top winning multiple awards (Billboard artist of the decade and millennium artist to name a few) that reflect her impact and popularity. Mariah made over 1 billion US dollars for Sony - one artist alone, Until Beyoncé, Taylor, Rihanna and even Madonna can match these "tip of the iceberg" statistics I just mentioned, they are not anywhere near Mariah Carey in popularity. Social media is all smoke and mirrors and that "fame" is false and does not translate to anything tangible when it comes down to the real. You of all people should know this with numbers being fabricated today with follower count and all. (Tuesday 6 June 2023; 23:02) this is a reply to message 102,827

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,827) by Bill from the UK Yes, but that is only a US perspective. One Sweet Day was not a huge hit anywhere else except the US. It was a normal top ten across other territories. Most of her earlier number ones didn't even chart strongly across the world, whereas Madonna for example had global success with her music from the very beginning. And I don't know if you pay attention to today's charts, but Taylor and Beyonce are far, far more popular than Mariah was during her peak. Again, globally, not just US-centric. And again, Mariah's success in the mid-90s wouldn't be enough to have her on the list. During that peak she did, what, less than 10 concert dates? Madonna and Dolly probably did hundreds in that same period. (Tuesday 6 June 2023; 06:57)

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,823) by Terna from Nigeria Not one of those women experienced that juggernaut, fever pitch fame Mariah experienced in her peak, and this was before the internet and social media. Neither has Celine Dion had bigger hits. Matter of fact Celine was pretty much unknown until the late 90's with Titanic and Mariah had already had One Sweet Day, a feat she repeated again with "We Belong Together" in the 2000's. Juggernaut, massive (all caps), inescapable hits. Which both ended up being crowned Song of the Decade. (Tuesday 6 June 2023; 00:15) this is a reply to message 102,813

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,813) by Bill from the UK It's probably right. All those artists you listed are incredibly popular, absolute juggernauts of the industry. Way more popular than Mariah was during her peak. The only real comparable is Celine. Her career is longer, her hits bigger, her tours and residencies gross more, and her sales likely bigger at this point. Mariah's career is great, but others have had better ones. (Sunday 4 June 2023; 09:38)

Circles remix (102,808) by Terna from Nigeria In the words of Toni Childs "I hate it already." Next. (Friday 2 June 2023; 19:19) this is a reply to message 102,802

Circles remix (102,802) by Jamie from UK Check it out it's great. Good summer vibes. (Thursday 1 June 2023; 18:46)

Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,807) by Terna from Nigeria Please let's not be delusional here. Just no. Absolutely nothing about Rainbow can be rated close to Daydream, talk less of higher. Just nothing. That album has no form, is full of hideous fillers (the first for her at the time) her vocals have no form either, her voice is shot on the record, sounding hoarse and gravelly, like she was sick or something and the brash airiness of her voice (damage from the world tour the prior year) is so off-putting. That era was actually the beginning of her downfall and exhaustion, and had she slowed down, Glitter and the breakdown would not have happened. (Friday 2 June 2023; 19:12) this is a reply to message 102,785

Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,785) by Nikki from usa 20 years has passed since I talked to one of Mariah's old team members, so I'll spill. No, the actual promotion for Rainbow was extremely limited whereas they spent millions promoting Daydream. Rainbow was self-promoted more specifically by Mariah than any other album since her debut. Rainbow wasn't supposed to happen. The next project was Glitter, so her promo budget was cut in half. Half for Rainbow and half for Glitter. Mariah made a deal with Walmart to get more funding for her album, but it came with a promotional tour of their stores. It was the first time Mariah toured the Midwest since her debut. She not only did a lot of promo on any tv show she could find and anywhere Walmart wanted her to promote, but she also did any local radio station where ever she was. It was non stop interviews and performances. There was no "2 days rest" for live vocals while she was working 15 hour days, she did when she could. Baby girl's voice was sore for most of '99 when album promo officially began. (Tuesday 30 May 2023; 11:12)

Tina Turner (102,771) by Terna from Nigeria I guess we only have a limited time here to live and leave our mark. She's one of the few that definitely achieved this easily, and she will always be remembered and revered. Rest easy. (Thursday 25 May 2023; 23:46)

My issue with Rainbow (102,752) by Terna from Nigeria Excuse you? Speak for yourself Robert. The only thing he leads here is negativity and confusion, trying to bring Mariah down with every chance he gets. As well as being a broken record that plays only two songs. "What happened to her voice since 1997" and "Right to dream". (Sunday 21 May 2023; 14:11) this is a reply to message 102,750

My issue with Rainbow (102,750) by Robert-Anthony from United States Randy, but your number of high likes with your posts tell how respected you are on this board. You have become the leader of the board who keeps us on the right track. You were missed when you took your sabbatical some few years back. Please don't stay gone like that again. (Sunday 21 May 2023; 09:48)

Prelude to my next topic (102,751) by Terna from Nigeria Robert, dear, respectfully, just no. (Sunday 21 May 2023; 13:57) this is a reply to message 102,743

Prelude to my next topic (102,743) by Robert-Anthony from United States I have comprised some overall stats of Rainbow and Daydream in all areas and I have discovered some impressive stats. What I have discovered about Rainbow compared Daydream will get everybody talking and shine new light on MC as a brilliant artist. Rainbow was a huge success story for MC despite how Tommy sabotage its success. MC had total creative control during the recording and promotion of Rainbow while Tommy still had his puppet strings on MC during Daydream. Daydream was an enormous success, but MC lost such much control during the album promotion and looked defeated during her Grammys lost when she gave Columbia the best album of her career at the time. I will leave it there. I don't want share too much more of what I discovered about Rainbow being a huge triumph for MC. I don't think Rainbow has ever been called MC's liberation album But that is exactly what it was before Mimi was emancipated. Stay tuned for new post Saturday evening. Let me know your thoughts today. Agree or disagree? (Thursday 18 May 2023; 17:39)

New low? (102,712) by Terna from Nigeria Yes I noticed that too. She kinda "pulls" or "lifts" so to speak even when talking and ends up flat, or breaking. I'm not happy about this at all and I'm worried. (Thursday 11 May 2023; 17:23) this is a reply to message 102,695

New low? (102,695) by Tevin from USA Not to add insult to injury, but this is clearly voice issues not just vocal, as in singing, issues. I noticed multiple times when Mariah was speaking to the crowd, like when she yelled welcome Boys 2 Men [Boyz II Men], her voice broke and she didn't complete the phrase. That was just with her speaking. Something is very very wrong. But it's Mariah Carey, and if anyone can bounce back, it will be her. (Tuesday 9 May 2023; 02:34)

New low? (102,681) by Terna from Nigeria Let's not be too hard on her, and still remember that she might be doing the best she can with what's left of her ability right now, which from the clips we saw is not much. Her voice issues are serious seeing as how many times she kept sipping tea and still it wasn't enough. At this point, her options are slim – it's voice therapy or the much dreaded surgery. Being in her shoes must be very scary as we all know what happened to Bonnie Tyler's voice and Julie Andrews more recently. I know it scares Mariah to think of surgery and putting her gift, career and future all on the line. What I want to see Mariah do is a lifestyle change and to seek professional help. Build your voice from the ground back up again with a voice therapist and a vocal coach, those exercises really do work. Find out what you've been doing wrong and correct that technique. You'll be surprised how much of her vocal problems are superficial. (Monday 8 May 2023; 10:28) this is a reply to message 102,675

New low? (102,675) by Luke from Slovakia So I've just seen YouTube videos from the last show and I'm speechless. MC even lipped a part of VOL. The one thing I thought she'd never do. Her voice is shot. Idk what happened firing the Covid break but her voice got way worse even compared to 2019/2020 vocals. What is happening? It looks like she has a bunch of yes people around her but someone should sit her down and tell her that she needs to get her shit together or just quit. I hate people saying "she has nothing to proof anymore" well of course she is (was) one of the greatest but if she wants to continue her career as a singer she should get her voice together or throw her golden mic away. If it's the nodules she should get them removed now. I don't care if she loses her whistles. It's not like she can whistle now. It sounds very unpleasant with her current tone. I would be more the fine if she lipped whistles instead of lipping half of the song like she's doing now. I'm not even starting the VOL conversation. I'm sad, disappointed and scared for her. Please Mariah. Get the help you need. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 20:03)

The whistle or the complete voice? (102,676) by Terna from Nigeria She should invest in a qualified vocal coach, an expensive one. I don't know where she got that "nodules aid her with that register" crap, having nodules is an Achilles heel to any and every type of singer and she's no exception, and also even a medical condition that requires immediate attention and resolve. Mariah had such a lush, full, clean voice that was well rounded from low to high, even her high notes had a certain heft and clarity to them, from 1990 to 1994 is where I would say her voice thrived and was at its best. The minute she lost those qualities by the "Daydream" era, there already was a problem. This is the time she should've stepped back and cancelled or postponed shows to rest a little. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 20:19) this is a reply to message 102,670

The whistle or the complete voice? (102,670) by TheWind from England If it's true that Mariah has nodules on her vocals that have damaged her voice, but allow her to facilitate the whistle register, what would you rather? Mariah to get surgery and lose the whistle register, but return to an overall healthy voice, or maintain the whistle register and continue to work around the nodules? This is a purely speculative post, as I don't know that she has nodules etc, and I have no clue what's wrong with her voice. If it is true, I'd much rather she lip whistle notes for the rest of her career and sing everything in between in a healthy voice. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 13:53)

Glow (102,642) by Terna from Nigeria Her IG post earlier on today, just wow. She's glowing, literally. (Friday 28 April 2023; 22:42)

Taylor Swift (102,641) by Terna from Nigeria Not even close, and that was a time with no social media platforms, nor streaming views yet her popularity was a this global mammoth lasting frenzy, right from her debut album that even lasted well into the 2000's and with Mariah it wasn't just with the young generation at the time, it was every age demographic. She was and still is the real deal. (Friday 28 April 2023; 22:40) this is a reply to message 102,640

Taylor Swift (102,640) by Robert-Anthony from United States Do you think that Taylor Swift's enormous popularity right now is mirroring MC's popularity years of 1993-1998? It just seems to me that her fanbase had really increased out nowhere in the past 3 years. She is definitely a business woman who knows what to give her fans to make them go crazy and spend money. One thing, I would like to know is why she can't get a man to put a ring on it? She has had more boyfriends that has exceeded the number of fingers on MC's one hand. You know I had to quote MC. Lol. (Friday 28 April 2023; 17:50)

What is your initial fan story? (102,636) by Terna from Nigeria It was multiple occurrences for me. And random pop ups of her music anytime I was on MTV, or on the radio trying to capture my favorite music videos and songs on VHS and cassette respectively. (Good old 90's.) Then I started to take note that she was the singer of so many songs I knew, loved, but didn't know who sang them - "Love Takes Time", "Vision of Love" (finally watched the video while going "oh, it has a video"?), "Anytime you need a friend" and "Hero". I was a die hard Céline fan and so when buying a new Céline CD, I also bought Mariah's new CD - "Butterfly". (Thursday 27 April 2023; 19:34) this is a reply to message 102,618

What is your initial fan story? (102,618) by Robert-Anthony from United States What fascinated you about MC at any era that compelled you to become a lifetime fan? For me, it was Love Takes Time. Hearing this gem constantly on the radio made me know I was going to be a fan for life. (Monday 24 April 2023; 01:02)

Streams (102,569) by Terna from Nigeria Oh yeah, I noticed this on Spotify too just under a year and her followers were not even near 20 million. Only to check during the Christmas festive season and notice that massive jump. She gained about over 6 million if not more in just maybe two months. Lol. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 09:09) this is a reply to message 102,566

Streams (102,566) by Mariahsbaby from usa Mariah Carey's monthly listeners on Spotify on this day: 2023: 23.075.729! #190 2022: 18.058.770! #219 2021: 14.389.552! #283 The growth is crazy. PS: I forgot about Addie, I have seen her gorgeous picture. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 15:05)

Observation (102,439) by Terna from Nigeria Your little video doesn't prove anything Randy, because most of the "excuses" were actually complaints of her having to get up early in the morning to sing which many other credible singers and performers have also echoed from Whitney Houston to Dionne Warwick, Aretha Franklin, Michael Bolton etc. Even most recently Chaka Khan's comment on Mary J. Blige's cover of her song referenced this well known fact - singers do not wake up early to sing well first thing in the morning. It is a common phenomenon they all know. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 08:27) this is a reply to message 102,434

Observation (102,434) by Randy from USA As tired as you are of us picking Mariah apart, we are tired of being told that we are not fans and we are evil people. Nobody's mad because MC doesn't have the same voice as 1990. Hell, she didn't even have the same voice in 1998. The real issue is the deception and the excuses. How did she go from saying publicly, :I would never lip sync" in the 90s to lip syncing most of her climaxes in 99 and beyond? And then not telling us what happened? I didn't want to do this on this board but a few years ago, I put together all of MCs excuses. In her own words. I don't ever argue without receipts. Oh and I still love MC. You can view the video here. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 01:02)

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