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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Breaking news (88,709) by Bill from the UK This just in. Caution's world wide sales rocketed to 201,000 after a unexpected streaming surge from 6 fans. (Wednesday 20 March 2019; 07:05)

Re: Does anyone here even stream music? (88,682) (88,687) by Bill from the UK The thing no one seems to have realised is Mariah was popular in the 90s. Fact. Mariah's fans from the 90s are now inching ever closer towards middle age. They still buy their music because they always did. So the fact her albums don't sell indicates that fanbase from back then has all but depleted. As it has been said, she needs to reinvent herself just as she did in 1997. A complete overhaul of image, style, music, producers, singing style etc. would be something that would be of interest to everybody - both old fans, newer fans, and millennials. Nick Cannon really shed light on it when he said she got offended when Ariana referred to her as a "legend", as she very clearly saw herself as competing at that level and wasn't ready to be relegated to that status. It's ironic really that in 1996 MC made that comment about Madonna, "Really I haven't paid attention to Madonna since second grade, when she used to be popular." Oh Mariah. What goes around comes around. (Tuesday 19 March 2019; 10:18)

Re: Still listening (88,676) (88,678) by Bill from the UK I love Emotions. That album is divine. The whole Emotions era was brilliant and her look in those three videos was nothing short of breath taking. That was "Classic Mariah" through and though and I wonder how things would have gone had she not gone down the pop route of Music Box and stuck to soul. The mind boggles. For me, mis-step albums are hard to define. I think one is (CB, Memoirs, E=MC2), but when I listen to them, I love more or less every song haha. For me she's never put out a bad album which is why I love her so much. (Monday 18 March 2019; 20:36)

Re: Still listening (88,663) (88,667) by Bill from the UK Poor Rainbow. That album is a bop. The summery 80s vibe of Heartbreaker, the beautiful message and vocals of CTTA, the sensuality of Bliss and those delirious high notes, the longing of After Tonight, the sass of X-Girlfriend, and then the closing of Petals, Rainbow and Thank God I Found You. Admittedly there's a couple of issues like How Much and Did I Do That, and it does seem like it was thrown together (removing covers, interludes and remixes it has like, 1 song on it) but I still love it. (Monday 18 March 2019; 09:44)

A No No remix (88,652) by Bill from the UK Sorry everyone but the remix is awful. The Def Club Mix of Dreamlover just wept. (Saturday 16 March 2019; 22:42)

Re: Why is Merry Christmas not certified diamond yet? (88,635) (88,640) by Bill from the UK Album sales are listed on Mariah's Wikipedia page. (Saturday 16 March 2019; 07:36)

Re: Vegas final show this leg 2/21/19 M&G (long) (88,575) (88,603) by Bill from the UK Oh Mara. I am so, so sorry. I don't know what to say. Like others have said, your dear sweet mother was elated and so happy when you met Mariah. I don't know what your beliefs are but to me that is like God is giving you happiness to help ease your devastating news. You are so loved. Your lovely mother is shining down on you from heaven. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 23:16)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,559) (88,565) by Bill from the UK Honestly B I give up. You're right. It's an unused track from Emotions that was written to sound exactly like a song from Emotions in order to deliberately leave it off Music Box at Tommy's demand as it is too urban. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 21:06)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,542) (88,545) by Bill from the UK Open to interpretation. "Long ago, you used to want me. Now it's all so far away, but you still haunt me" is the same as "I can't remember when you last were tender, as it's always touch and go, the silence chills me to the bone". Both indicate someone used to be passionate about her and now they're not. And PS Everything Fades Away was published in 1993. Don't know where this "unused Emotions track" theory sprang from (based on no evidence at all) unless you can point me to the quote saying that? (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 15:38)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,529) (88,535) by Bill from the UK Agree. It's the same for God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman (which wasn't designated a bonus track, it was simply the ending of Merry Christmas, again, everywhere except America). Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child is a brilliant, amazingly delivered performance, but I loved how the acapella of GRYMG dials it all back down and again leaves the album on a somewhat haunting note. Why settle for one Mariah when you can twenty of them harmonising with each other? During Rainbow promo interviews, MC said it was her first album that ended on a "happy note", which indicates she may have viewed EFA as the closer for Music Box, much as some people may not want to hear it. I don't buy this whole Tommy "demanding" songs be removed notion as there is zero evidence for that. If that was the case, EFA wouldn't have been on the Hero single nor on more releases of Music Box than it wasn't. As for Slipping Away, arguably Long Ago has the exact same theme and message and that remained on the album without a problem. I prescribe to the theory that it was in fact replaced with Melt Away, which was originally planned by Mariah and Babyface to be part of Waiting to Exhale. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 09:05)

Re: Boasty (88,475) (88,485) by Bill from the UK Jade, hello (exclamation mark). What a lovely face you have. I should have known it would be as beautiful as you. (Monday 11 March 2019; 20:48)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,473) (88,474) by Bill from the UK Music Box feels like it's missing something when it ends with All I've Ever Wanted. It's a beautiful song, but it's no album closer. Everything Fades Away adds a whole new layer and element and haunting end to the record. It's epic, especially the exchange between Mariah and the background singer ("so hard for me to let you go"). It's like how the debut was originally going to end with Prisoner. All I've Ever Wanted is the Prisoner of Music Box, only without the sassy rap. (Monday 11 March 2019; 08:31)

Original Music Box track listing (88,465) by Bill from the UK Apologies to wade in during all the A No No talk (great video by the way), but the original tracklisting for Music Box surfaced on a promo item on eBay, thought I'd share. 1. Dreamlover 2. Hero 3. Anytime You Need A Friend 4. Without You 5. Now That I Know 6. Just To Hold You Once Again 7. Never Forget You 8. Do You Think Of Me 9. All I've Ever Wanted 10. Fade Away (this would be re-titled "Everything Fades Away") 11. I've Been Thinking About You 12. Music Box It's an interesting sequencing. For me Everything Fades Away loses its impact not being the final track on the album (sorry you all in the US missed out). It does also corroborate that Do You Think Of Me was originally planned to be on the album (as alluded to on the Dreamlover singles, where it states both songs are taken from the forthcoming album). Music Box is a nice ending to the album though. (Sunday 10 March 2019; 18:29)

Re: The video (88,393) (88,403) by Bill from the UK Someday, I Don't Wanna Cry, There's Got To Be A Way, Emotions, Make It Happen, Dreamlover, Anytime You Need a Friend, All I Want for Christmas Is You, Fantasy, Always Be My Baby, Honey, My All, The Roof, Breakdown, I Still Believe, and Heartbreaker all from the 90s all had extras and actors other than Mariah in them. In fact, it's easier to list her solo videos from the 90s. Vision of Love, Love Takes Time, Can't Let Go, and Butterfly. Not including concert videos here of course, or duets. (Friday 8 March 2019; 19:02)

Re: Eternally optimistic (88,376) (88,399) by Bill from the UK "...hitting #173 on MySpace's bubbling under singles on the lead r&b station in Pitchfork, South Dakota" major lol. (Friday 8 March 2019; 16:55)

Re: Till the end of time (88,310) (88,311) by Bill from the UK I wish we could all get along like we used to in middle school. I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy. (Tuesday 5 March 2019; 18:35)

Re: Caution in Houston (88,293) (88,298) by Bill from the UK How did the Caution tour rank by comparison to your others Licia? I've only seen Mariah twice, at the Daydream and Rainbow tours in London. I sort of don't mind that I'm too poor to ever see her as the fact I was at the Daydream tour during her absolute prime is one of my most treasured memories from my whole life. (Monday 4 March 2019; 09:24)

Re: Glitter (88,264) (88,274) by Bill from the UK I hope now it will find its way onto Spotify and other streaming sites. There are times in my life when I just need to hear If We, and if I'm mobile and without my iPod I can't hear it lol. (Sunday 3 March 2019; 06:32)

Re: Caution in Houston (88,265) (88,273) by Bill from the UK Thanks for sharing Licia, it does sound like it's all her which is great. Really pleased you had a good time, shame she didn't do MSG for you though, sorry about that. (Sunday 3 March 2019; 06:29)

Setlist (88,210) by Bill from the UK What a great setlist. Well done Mariah, excellent choices. Love the Glitter section and album cuts. (Thursday 28 February 2019; 11:02)

Re: New a capella (88,197) (88,199) by Bill from the UK And Migrate should have been a single. (Wednesday 27 February 2019; 17:27)

Re: Gospel album (88,190) (88,191) by Bill from the UK Agree, it should have been done around 1994 as Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child and Joy to the World at St John the Divine are probably the closest things we'll get to "Churchriah". (Tuesday 26 February 2019; 10:08)

Re: Gospel album (88,183) (88,187) by Bill from the UK This is so weird. I was listening to my One Sweet Day single today with the remixes and was coming here to post about how great the acapellas and the Chucky's remix are. This is one of the few "real" acapellas Mariah has done (as in, with finger snaps and claps and harmonising vocals like true acapellas, as opposed to isolated vocals lifted from a studio recording). I think Mariah would be better suited to a laid back Norah Jones style jazz album vocally these days, as if she went full on Patti LaBelle for a gospel album it would probably kill her. (Monday 25 February 2019; 19:45)

Re: A No No remix fake news (88,168) (88,169) by Bill from the UK Stop trying to make With You happen. It's not going to happen. (Saturday 23 February 2019; 21:30)

Live ad libs (88,162) by Bill from the UK Great to see the Make It Happen performance at MSG get the recognition it so richly deserves. Am I alone in adding Mariah ad libs to songs when listening to the studio versions? For instance does anyone else add in a "if you know it, sing along with me" during the second chorus of Can't Let Go, or a "sing" (exclamation mark) after the "I'll be eternally grateful" in the last verse of Vision of Love? I ask because when Make It Happen begins and the beat starts building up, I always run through Mariah's "reaching for a dream" speech from MSG. Just me? Okay then lol. (Friday 22 February 2019; 19:35)

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