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Re: Article: Mariah Carey's very good, very bad two weeks (96,311) (96,314) by Andrew from the United Kingdom How interesting: because *you* don't want to read articles that are less than complimentary about Mariah, you would like it so that *nobody* here can read such articles. So, you think yourself the person qualified enough to be my censor? You alone (or, maybe, not) can determine what I can and cannot read. What makes you so qualified? Be silent and still. (Saturday 17 October 2020; 01:53)

Re: The future is not looking good (96,302) (96,307) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I warned of this for years. Mariah's behaviour and attitude made people turn away from her. It is not remotely fashionable to say you like Mariah Carey. She is viewed as a spoiled, vain, petty bitch. Ask random people what they think of her. "Ugh, her," is somewhat of a common response. "I can't stand that woman." (Friday 16 October 2020; 21:39)

Re: End of the affair (96,264) (96,277) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I wrote a reply and it contained this to laugh at Mariah's comments about Celine and Aretha. But I think actually I'll just invite everyone to listen to the song. When a white woman sings it in tribute to a black woman, and when a white guy is moved to tears by it, you must surely know that the world isn't even half as bad a place as people with agenda are interested in making you believe it is. (Friday 16 October 2020; 01:53)

Re: End of the affair (96,252) (96,260) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "[I]t's not really constructive to call her experiences BS when they are her experiences." Bloody hell, Bill. It is a weak argument that someone's "lived experience" cannot be challenged, especially when all visible evidence is to the contrary and/or their reliability as a witness is tenuous. The phrase "don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" comes to mind, once more. However, if Mariah wants to push delusion and fabrication let her. She always has. But any fan, Lamb or Queen that supports this is actually worse - those people that insist a performance is live when it clearly is not, that an image is not doctored when it clearly is, that a vocal not engineered when it clearly has been. And now Mariah's untruthfulness is supported in accounts of things that clearly did not happen that way. Mariah has sold you a false weather forecast and pissed all over your leg. And you're telling everybody to buy umbrellas. - Glitter was never billed as a soundtrack - Loverboy sold a lot due to discounting - TRL was Mariah rushing her entrance and acting insane - The plates didn't slip out of her hand - She did not disappear to background singing because of Celine Dion - Tommy Mottola did not "help" launch her career - he launched the whole bloody thing - She is not suddenly a "black woman who is also mixed race" - she is mixed race Enough with the "BS". (Thursday 15 October 2020; 18:08)

AG MC JH (96,246) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I really hope Mariah takes the opportunity to record and release a song with Ariana Grande and not just confine a collaboration with her to featuring her on an Apple TV Special. I can do without J-Hud. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 12:26)

Re: End of the affair (96,244) (96,245) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Mariah didn't dance at Diva's Live because... Tommy Mottola. FFS . I think if anyone were to step back and assess what has happened here: - Mariah is an eternal victim of everyone around her - Mariah has never contributed to any negativity that has befallen her - Mariah is no longer a mixed race person but a black woman (coinciding with the BLM movement) - Mariah is mature but throwing many people under a bus No wonder people are calling this out now as total bullshit. And no wonder people are abandoning her. Is this a likeable person? Maybe so. Maybe not. But this book if clearly full of bullshit. To say that TRL was a set up? That she was perfectly normal? Kiss my ring. I am seriously finding it difficult to feel anywhere near the same about Mariah as I did before. It is well documented here that I detest lies and liars. Someone's lie is not permissible made by labelling "their truth" and dismissing analysis and criticism of it. (Thursday 15 October 2020; 12:21)

Re: End of the affair (96,231) (96,243) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Big Willy, what say you on that book? Do you believe it? (Thursday 15 October 2020; 10:27)

Re: Mariah unfiltered feelings about things (96,234) (96,241) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Okay. Would the proper response to Mariah's bullshit retelling of the story to play Divas's Live in front of her and point out that during Testimony Shania and Celine are pumped and dancing with each other, Carole goes over to pair up and dance with Gloria and Mariah - Mariah is stood statuesque on her own looking like a lemon. She appears extremely awkward and very aloof. Would it not be appropriate to ask if it is actually for this reason that she disappears into the background? Would it not be appropriate to ask if she struggles singing such a high song when asked to join in by Aretha and then ask her if Aretha demanding Celine to "help [her] lift it" was a response to Mariah's failure to do so? Would it show journalistic integrity to ask her if she has thrown Celine under a bus to try to rewrite what actually happened - that Mariah acted aloof, tried to hide from the spotlight due to vocal restrictions and then failed when brought into the spotlight? Would it be appropriate to ask her why *this* made that book but other stories involving the likes of Eminem did not? Oh, Eminem didn't "pertain to the meaning of Mariah Carey"? That's odd. He did enough to warrant writing songs called Clown and Obsessed about him. I don't recall any songs about Diva's Live called "White Canadian Bacon (Wish I Could Sing Like That)". I wish Mariah had written the book solely sbout her childhood and upbringing. That was special and eyeopening and endearing and heartbreaking. The rest of the book is (Thursday 15 October 2020; 10:18)

Inauthentic / TRL (96,228) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The perfect word to describe parts of that book. Case study: TRL. Mariah asks you to believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with her car-crash TRL performance. Anyone with working eyes and an intellect can see she is off the scale mentally, exhibiting alarming behaviour. Mariah wants to rewrite this in her favour. Watch TRL and put soapy plates in this person's hand in the middle of drama in a house. Then tell me it was racist and wrong to institutionalise her. Who is buying this bullshit? (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 23:14)

Re: Transcripted: The Oprah Conversation (96,207) (96,223) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Let me just give an example of journalistic integrity. Mariah: "Let’s not forget [the Glitter album was released on] September 11, 2001." No interviewer responds to this properly. Would the proper response not be to ask why Glitter's first week sales were about 120,000 and Jay-Z's Blueprint album, released the same day, were about 420,000? It is an apt question. In response to the "Hellooooo, it was a soundtrack, darling" (in faux "British" accent often used to dismiss the plausible), would the proper response not be to ask why the album was promoted as a Mariah Carey studio album, why it was billed nowhere as a soundtrack and indeed why it didn't include "OST" anywhere on the cover? Is it fair to ask why it has been redesignated in retrospect? To the insistance that "Helloo, Loverboy reached Number 2 and was the highest selling blah blah that year", would the proper response not be to quote the heavily reported heavy price reductions on the single which led to the upsurge in sales? There is no journalistic integrity anywhere. Yes, Mariah may relate her own truth. But, I am sorry, there is obvious bullshit going on here and lambs and fans alike are not stupid. Don't waste our time with this crap rewriting of history. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 21:52)

Re: Transcripted: The Oprah Conversation (96,207) (96,219) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Would I be forgiven for thinking this whole interview nonsense? This is not an interview, this is a promo for a book. Mariah is challenged on absolutely nothing. Did she think she needed to be hospitalised? No. Okay. Let us quote and cite galore as to why she did need to be and ask her for receipts? No? No. This is absurd nonsense and not worth anyone's time. I see two successful black women (Mariah's a "black woman who is also mixed race" now), multi-millionaires, groaning about how bad the world is, and how mean people can be. And I see nobody, noone, really grilling and presenting contradictory eveidence and asking for real explanations. Total trash. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 21:33)

Re: Are you leaving? (96,198) (96,206) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "I told you guys once the memoir comes out, we were gonna hear a lot of confused middle-aged men express their nonsense opinions." Sexist and ageist. Not sure you understand that bigotry is, despite claiming to be a victim of it. "I'm actually shocked 95+% of all the reviews seem to get Mariah and glad that newspapers didn't let middle-aged or old men write their hateful unwanted opinions." So young people and/or female only have written reviews. Not sure you understand the make-up of the world. Or anything. "And if you could have your way you would never let Mariah leave the boring ass adult contemporary lane." You think that there are fans here that only like Mariah Carey's "adult contemporary" songs. Not sure you understand Mariah Carey's catalogue is. "Imagine being dumb enough to call yourself a lamb, yet missed the whole message and point of one of her best ballads called Outside." Not sure you understand much about people's issues even though they clearly spell them out. "Mariah didn't choose to capitalise on this current racial situation and for many of us things have always been bad in that perspective but it's just that things are coming to the surface now." Let me be as equally ridiculously discriminatory as you. Why not? You were not and are not disliked because you are black. You were and are disliked because you're a nasty damaged little fairy that defends something it doesn't really understand as a comfort blanket to wrap around its faux self-confidence. As long as you continue to spout hatred as a defence mechanism to protect that bruised little [censored] inside of you you will never be happy. And frankly everyone here is too wise, and middle aged, to really give a shit what a fruitloop like you thinks, princess. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 18:17)

Re: End of the affair (96,170) (96,180) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You are not the first and, I would suggest, certainly won't be the last to give up on Mariah due to that seemingly disingenuous book. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 02:06)

Celine Dion (96,164) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Interesting. Celine Dion being asked about singing with Aretha, showing humility and love. And speaking excitedly about grasping her chance to sing with her. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 16:52)

Carole King (96,162) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Interesting. Carole King remarks how Aretha was singing over Celine and opines that Celine held her own and responded well with dignity. Even Randy Jackson was impressed. Yet, Mariah throws Celine under a bus 20 years later trying to rewrite history in her own favour. Unnecessary and undignified. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 16:44)

Re: Trash (96,128) (96,158) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Oops. More ridiculous nonsense fron the angry anti-white. The one-drop rule may historically have been used by racist non-black people in a derogatory way but it is, in modern times, used by black people also to "claim" people as black. So the poster was correct, also. You ought not to try to dress up your angry hatred of white people with clever tropes such as "educate yourself". Your entire existence is steeped in irony, sweetheart. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 11:47)

Re: Trash (96,154) (96,157) by Andrew from the United Kingdom See. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 11:43)

Re: Trash (96,151) (96,156) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Your whole post is ridiculous. You are a sad, angry black American. Let's face our realisations together. (Tuesday 13 October 2020; 11:39)

Re: Trash (96,070) (96,119) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It is very simple: Celine matched Aretha's notes and sang with her for her own personal fun and the entertainment of the crowd on "Natural Woman". She didn't sing over Aretha, she didn't embarrass her nor was she rude to her. She sang so because she was capable. Mariah was incapable. Fast forward two decades and Mariah throws Celine, one of the nicest vocalists in music, who has only ever been nice to Mariah, under a bus, in interview and now in a book. And then, like everything else in Mariah's life now, she had made it about race. Ahem, sorry, "culture". Can anyone point to negative comments about these 10 seconds in history made by Shania Twain? Gloria Estefan? Carole King? A music journalist? Unfortunately, Mariah has shown herself here to be an unreliable witness and just a bit of a bitch. And a racist one at that. Whitney on that stage would have sung her ass off. And I would bet the farm Mariah would be yasss-queening Whitney and kissing her ass as usual. Furthermore, nobody owed Aretha "respect" by standing there like an idiot and not singing how they wanted to. Celine Dion is one of the best selling, if not *the* best selling, female artists of all time. And in 1998 she was the biggest star in the world. And she needed to check herself? Oh, please. MC needs to check herself and especially her self-delusion and belief that everyone in the world is a gullible fool. Some sense of humility and some sense of reality would not go amiss. And were I her I would now be praying that Celine et al. do not erite their own memoirs and mention Mariah's voice. I'm off to listen to Celine Dion's album Falling Into You which won the Grammy Award for Album of the Year a year before Diva's Live was filmed. I especially like track 8. "What's track 8 called?" I hear you ask. Oh, it's a little ditty called "(You Make Me Feel Like A) Natural Woman". (Monday 12 October 2020; 17:26)

Re: Trash (96,076) (96,111) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Eddie, you are as astute as you are wise. The Meaning of Mariah Carey could be summed up to this: "Please think I'm black, non-black people bad, I've never done anything wrong, everyone else is always at fault." I really liked listening to the first part of the book but that quickly faded a bit. But I still enjoyed it. Mariah takes no responsibility for anything and her accounts of things are certainly eyebrow raising. For instance, the plate smashing. She just wanted to wash up in the middle of drama, that was what she needed to do. And then the plates just slipped out of her hands... helloooo, they were all soooapppy, didnt you know. And then, lo. The racist white police arrive and her racist white mother made them take the poor black woman away. Doesn't matter that she looks whiter than my ass in winter. There is clear agenda in this book and I am not certain it comes from the most honest of places. Finally, when Mariah explained the one-drop rule I actually put my fork down and just stared at Alexa in disbelief. Very desperate. The only thing that I got from the book as a lingering afterthought is that Mariah hates her own skin. (Monday 12 October 2020; 09:52)

Re: Tears (96,094) (96,110) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Sorry, did you have some sort of fit and land on the keyboard? (Monday 12 October 2020; 09:42)

The Rarities liner notes (96,057) by Andrew from the United Kingdom This is good for those not interested in the physical copy. The One Night lyrics would have had me punching my pillows were I young again. Big Willy, how are you coping? (Friday 9 October 2020; 19:18)

Re: One Night (96,036) (96,041) by Andrew from the United Kingdom One Night is fun and off the hook. Now I know most people here like to wallow in misery listening to Slipping Away and OHOMO but have a few splashes and cheer up. One Night has a great beat, a great melody and is fun. Cheer up. (Friday 9 October 2020; 14:14)

Re: Swan song (96,026) (96,040) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The memoir is a self-promotional tool. Don't read it as proper historical fact and it is enjoyable. Read it looking for an honest, unbiased retelling of events and you'll be left bitterly disappointed. (Friday 9 October 2020; 14:10)

Trash (96,039) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I have to agree in part with Randy. I only just finished the audiobook as I decided to take my time with it. There's almost a whole chapter dedicated to stabbing Celine Dion in the back? This is low. Aretha Franklin invited Celine Dion to sing with her. Why is this relevant to Mariah's story? It is a pathetic retelling of events that does not quite fit the facts. Didn't Celine Dion not contact Mariah later, when she was trying to get pregnant, offering her valuable advice? Has anyone ever heard Celine badmiuth Mariah or aby other artist, in fact? This pointless chapter is written with Mariah's pen dipped in the bitch ink. She mentions a couple of times that Celine singing off against Aretha was a "cultural" mistake. Make no mistake, Mariah is referring to the colour of Celine's skin (the whole book is obsessed with signalling that Mariah is black). The entire retelling of the event is not truthful and now she's made it racist. Nice one, Mariah. And therein now lies the problem of the entire memoir. This memoir is Mariah's truth. Fine. But as Randy rightly points out, Mariah's truth has always been the one that fits what story she needs to sell at that time. I now doubt the events as retold in the rest of the book. Diana Ross is lovely and they giggled over dresses. No mention that Ms Ross was reportedly a bitch on set, told Mariah how not to sing and then refused to let VH1 release the show on CD and VHS to make money for music education. But Celine sang equally as well as Aretha because she's a rude white woman and *that* makes the book. Trash. (Friday 9 October 2020; 14:07)

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