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Bill (104,770)
by Jamie from UK
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Looking great in the new pic Bill.
(Tuesday 2 January 2024; 20:17)
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Happy Christmas (104,649)
by Jamie from UK
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Happy Christmas everyone. I hope you all have a lovely day. Check out MC latest Instagram post, she's sounding pretty good, that's a great present for us all. Enjoy Jamie.
(Monday 25 December 2023; 09:27)
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Best Love Takes Time performance (104,619)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I have to disagree too. I love this performance and little different ways she sings certain parts. I think maybe she was a tiny bit sick as the high note wasn't perfect but the rest I love.
(Friday 22 December 2023; 19:47)
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Best Love Takes Time performance (104,615)
by 123 from USA
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I disagree. Even with the lack of resonant belts and some imperfections, she really went there vocally and took some risks. She started to dive into the other parts of her voice to sing the song. I love all the passion she poured into this performance. One of my favorites. Shakiness and all. Here is the full Love Takes Time performance that night.
(Friday 22 December 2023; 15:12)
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My All (Kanye's arrangement) (104,581)
by Jamie from UK
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The bit where she sings in the interview setting, she sounds great like she used to in interviews and also very composed and not saying "dahling" every two seconds. I approve.
(Monday 18 December 2023; 00:25)
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My All (Kanye's arrangement) (104,576)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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I just watched. There is a snippet of new version of My All. I have listened again to Kanye's version - the lyrics and arrangements are the same. A few years ago Mariah said that she liked Kanye's version of My All and would like to perform it. Then for few years there was nothing. Now it is part of her Christmas show. I like his version, but I like the original more. The new version is called "Christmas Gospel Version".
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 19:47)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,580)
by Jamie from UK
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Not too sure as I loved how she looked in that video. I'm guessing the Eminem rumours didn't help as he's quite popular in the UK. That's all I can think of really.
(Monday 18 December 2023; 00:18)
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Obsessed in the UK (104,573)
by Andrew from the UK
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I can't fully appreciate how and why Obsessed tanked so badly here. The song was liked far and wide, the video was constantly appearing on television for obvious reasons, and whenever I heard or hear it, people sing along with the chorus for they know it and like it. It's baffling. Any ideas?
(Sunday 17 December 2023; 14:22)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,564)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I was getting early vibes too. She looked and dressed perfectly.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 15:57)
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Article: Mariah Carey stops by Library of Congress (104,560)
by Andrew from the UK
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Wow. If it wasn't written in black and white I would never have believed this photo to be from 2023. Mariah looks stunning here.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:45)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,563)
by Jamie from UK
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Great response. Yes I agree she has still charted well upto Memoirs, my view was purely based on persona as apposed to actual music. I think people like her music here, they host didn't like the sudden change in image.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 15:56)
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Mariah Carey in the UK (104,559)
by Andrew from the UK
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Having taken off with I'll Be There, not until the Memoirs era did Mariah drop from being a pretty steady Top 10 artist. There were certainly some blips along the way, most notably releasing Butterfly as a single but Mariah for many many years was a mainstream radio listed artist. However, I'd agree that she became the source of much derision after she took her clothes off in 1997. Nobody wanted it from her. This emerging vanity aspect of her personality was quite off-putting to British people. The Heartbreaker Remix and Loverboy videos did maximum damage to her profile as did the expanding breasts which started ignoring each other sometime around 1998 into 1999.
It does all strike me as possibly a little bit unfair. Women - and girls, even - were treated very differently back then, such were the times that they would often be asked about their breasts in interviews. There is a video on YouTube of it happening to Britney when she was about 17 years old and it is uncomfortable viewing.
But with Mariah I believe she was very respected as a top-tier vocalist and she was, at the very essence of her being, a solid-bet of a hitmaker - the "Songbird Supreme", no less. That she had achieved this through sheer talent won her many fans who became confused at her need to add sex and sexuality to her career. It smacked of desperation and she was somewhat "slut-shamed".
I cannot help but often wonder what Mariah's career would be like if it was taking off in this day and age. Almost certainly she would not have endured the ridicule for having a mental health crisis but, rather, I would hope she would be, or have been, treated a lot more sympathetically.
Regardless of whataboutery, the success of her singles and her popularity whenever she visited the UK cannot be diminished and it serves to emphasise that if she has the right material and promotion she will be successful. Unfortunately, in terms of both, she has had neither for well over a decade now. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour needs to hit the road again.
N.b. Sorry for the essay, J-L, but I do suffer from insomnia. I gotta get me some sleep. Also, check out the chart-placing of "Obsessed", I don't recall it underperforming like that.
(Saturday 16 December 2023; 06:42)
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UK Lamb (104,551)
by Jamie from UK
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The UK loved early Mariah, they just didn't like the whole transition from vocalist to diva. Obviously I'm not speaking for myself as I've continued to follow Mariah. I just think for the UK in general they didn't get the transition. I think she lost a lot of mature adult fans from Butterfly onwards.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 12:42)
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UK Lamb (104,546)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I want to ask an honest question. What does the UK Lambs need or want Mariah to do? I lived in the UK for four years. Mostly on the Welsh border by bishops, as well as London proper (your train system is the best in the world as of my experiences tbh). Why are you UK guys so hard on her? And if I hear "1993-1996, please, I maintain Mariah's most artistic, expression and performances were post 2002 , consistently". What I see Mariah from 1988-1996 is her doing a job. From 1997-present, I see an artist. If her voice broke? Who cares? It's park of her human journey, that makes her so relatable.
(Friday 15 December 2023; 02:16)
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Vocals getting better (104,446)
by Jamie from UK
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Perfect. And I'm getting used to this Jamie-Luke
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 01:05)
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Vocals getting better (104,437)
by Andrew from the UK
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So: "Mariah doesn't sing before she's supposed to sing on stage because she can't be bothered so people who book early shows will just have to suck up shite vocals"? How absurd.
Imagine going to see a West End musical and the talent missing notes because they didn't rehearse. Imagine going to watch a football match and your team losing badly because they didn't go to training. Imagine... well, I think the point is made.
Mariah's vocal deterioration is of her own making and people like Jamie-Luke get grief for not wanting to hand their hard-earned cash over to her for sub-par performances. Bleak, indeed.
Perhaps Mariah not getting to No.1 might give her the shock that she needs: that she has to up her game and not stand motionless, without uttering sound, expecting adulation and praise.
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 17:46)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,445)
by Jamie from UK
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Haha let's meet.
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 01:01)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,427)
by Andrew from the UK
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I literally live in the same country. You're dead to me. Luke.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:29)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,429)
by Jamie from UK
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Cool sounds like a plan.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 22:05)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,423)
by Edward from USA
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Sadly not in the city, but might be moving back. I'd love to though.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 12:43)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,420)
by Jamie from UK
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Where in NY are you? Next time I'm there we could grab a coffee?
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 10:37)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,418)
by Edward from USA
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RATCT had been reaching the second spot for four years consecutively. It's not like the song came out of nowhere. AIWFCIY was ahead on airplay and sales. It was just 2.5 M streams. Mariah should up her game with a couple of big televised events. She needs exposure. Here in NY, I haven't heard RATCT anywhere.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 04:16)
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A look back at 2023 (104,368)
by Jamie from UK
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Gosh it only feels like 2 minutes since top posters was last published.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:42)
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A look back at 2023 (104,367)
by Bobby A from United States
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Hello Eric. Thank you for all that you do to keep the board going strong all of these years. I noticed that you were still posting until 9pm Eastern time last night. Usually the last post is 6pm Eastern. Thank you for keeping the hot topic of "We lost #1" going way into the night. It was a fun way to end the night.
And what a year it has been for topics on the board. Can you think about posting on New Year's Eve the top 15 topics of 2023 with the most replies and likes? Just this November and December alone, I know Mariah vs. Brenda, We lost #1, and Emotions formula will make the list. Also, can you post the top posters for 2023? Andrew returned back in August (or was it September?) and tried to take my special guest star status. Lol.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:07)
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We lost the #1 (104,359)
by Jamie from UK
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I'm happy with the success she's had with that song already, let someone else have number 1. It's not like it's not been there already. Christmas songs are so competitive these days, but at least Mariah has a song that's considered one of the last classic Christmas songs.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 13:02)
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We lost the #1 (104,347)
by Pedro from Brazil
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According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)
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Emotions formula (104,358)
by Jamie from UK
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Seems you only like things your way. [You're] usually wrong as seen over and over on this forum. I can't help but think "if it's over" for your opinions.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:59)
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Emotions formula (104,353)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Well we agree to disagree now don't we ? No need to be aggressive about it and come with the name calling, getting all ruffled about a simple opinion. And "Chain of Fools" and "Think" Gospel inflected? Now that's a first, confusing Soul with Gospel. Get Your genres right Mr.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:12)
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Emotions formula (104,356)
by Jamie from UK
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Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)
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Emotions formula (104,346)
by Andrew from the UK
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Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17)
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Emotions formula (104,340)
by Jamie from UK
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[If it's over] weak. I think not.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49)
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Emotions formula (104,335)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Let's count the fillers on "Emotions" shall we? 1. "And you don't Remember" - I rarely play this song, it just isn't strong enough and is indeed one of her weaker ballads with a high note thrown in just because. 2. "So Blessed" - I personally love this song, but I also recognize it ain't no classic and quite forgettable. Even Mariah herself was like "oh please which so blessed" when the lambs made her pick an absolute favorite in a versus format a few years back. 3. "You're So Cold" - Oh my, what a waste of space a better song would've occupied and it was 5 whole minutes long, hideous. Skipped every single time. 4. "If it's Over" - Another weak ballad with a high note thrown in. This song actually is sort of disjointed, as its feel doesn't match the lyrics. It is a breakup song that sounds Gospel. With the gospel sound, one expects to hear an uplifting lyric or inspiring one, but this is dark. She got it right with "I am free" and "Anytime you need a friend". This record was also kinda what turned the general public off her high notes because the placements came across as "just because", and with such a display on the title track, the rest should've had it toned way down in the background like on "Can't Let Go". The saving grace for this album are her vocals which are top notch capturing just how powerful her instrument is.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:06)
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Emotions formula (104,338)
by Jamie from UK
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Emotions is one of her best albums. Full of soul and maturity. I'd chose this album over the debut any day.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:44)
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Emotions formula (104,316)
by Terna from Nigeria
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I'll just say this, between those two records, one is on the cusp of being certified Diamond - her third if I might add, while the other still has a long way to go (the numbers never lie). There's a reason why "Vision of Love" and "Love Takes Time" were the songs chosen for the tribute - they are instantly recognizable classics (even in that time), that have stood the test of time, the kind of songs seasoned songwriters would kill to have to their credit, written by a then 19 year old a testament in itself and can only be found on the most stellar debut ever by an artist - Mariah Carey.
(Friday 1 December 2023; 21:00)
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Would you rather (104,287)
by Jamie from UK
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Unlike Britney who also did the dirty on him with Wade Robson. I like Justin and I like Britney. I don't care what they get up to in their personal lives. No one is perfect.
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 23:37)
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Would you rather (104,284)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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A brand new album would be better since it will be hard to provide the loyal fans with a complete Rarities album of unheard songs. The first Rarities album had some really good gems but we'd heard a few of the tracks already.
(Wednesday 29 November 2023; 22:36)
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Grio Awards performances (104,242)
by Jamie from UK
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It was lovely to see Mariah acting so humble, she seemed calm and together here. I hope she takes comfort in the fact she's a respected artist and sees these great singers singing her songs and thinks how important her craft is, and not focus so much on how she looks, and gets back to what she does best. She's seemed like her old self sat there and didn't come across as a diva.
(Monday 27 November 2023; 01:59)
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Grio Awards performances (104,235)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Patti killed it as expected and Jennifer Hudson tore up "Vision of Love". I [loved] that declaration Jhud said before the final note "we love you" and [indeed] we do Mariah.
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 17:57)
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View from here (104,200)
by Jamie from UK
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Haha. I forgive you. She was on fire in that show, so much fun and very in the moment.
(Friday 24 November 2023; 10:56)
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View from here (104,191)
by Andrew from the UK
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I was actually thinking of the E=MC2 era and particularly the TMB video and the presenting of the Friday Night Project. Mariah was so animated and fun. Can you imagine what the show would be like if she presented TFNP now? Well Jamie wouldn't have gone, for a start lol and I might get his name right. I'm an idiot.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:54)
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Performance (104,148)
by Jamie from UK
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Well said Ed. How many singers are no longer here because too many yes people around them? Part of being human is being able to take criticism so you can grow and continue to live a positive life. Being famous is even harder as [you're] living in a completely different world and it's more important to remember who you are and to be able to take criticism.
(Tuesday 21 November 2023; 09:46)
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Performance (104,143)
by Edward from USA
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People on this board love Mariah and have given her some great advice. If there were only "yasss queen" lambs posting here, Mariah would still be believing she was fooling anyone. All the "yasss queen" sites disappeared for a reason. Mariah is a musical genius, she should be held to higher standards. I'm glad she probably reading this board since she seems to be doing some of things recommended here.
(Tuesday 21 November 2023; 01:48)
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Performance (104,140)
by Jamie from UK
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This is our Mariah. Looking beautiful, confident and composed. Keep up the hard work MC.
(Monday 20 November 2023; 19:17)
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Performance (104,132)
by Tameka walker from United states
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I watched Mariah's performance and I really enjoyed it. She can still sing it's not like when she came out in the nineties but she can still sing her face off. She was even trying to do something a little bit different to let the audience know that hey I can still sing and I am singing live not all was live but most of it was. I would like to know what you guys think. Do you think she was singing live or was she lipping it? Well I love Mariah I have loved her since day one. She is incomparable. Mariah Carey often duplicated never imitated. You guys also have to remember that all these young girls like Christina (42), Britney (41), Jessica (43), Beyoncé (42) and so forth studied Mariah so they can be like her. I often come on this board but hardly ever post anything but when she does a good job I would like to leave a positive message to up lift her. Let her know that her die hard fans like me are with her. Everyone has a right to feel how they want and say what they want this is a free country. I have always been one of her biggest fans because I have always wanted to sing and I love singers with big voices. I love you Mariah you are such an inspiration.
(Monday 20 November 2023; 06:06)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,122)
by Jamie from UK
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The question is do you really have a life if you have to come on here and give such a negative response to a post. I simply stated I won't be going to the concert, if that really offends and triggers you then you're the one that needs to evaluate if you have a life or not.
(Sunday 19 November 2023; 10:08)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,114)
by JR from United States
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Oh no you ruined everything by deciding to not go. Do any of you have lives outside of this messageboard? To come on here just to announce you aren't going? Nobody cares or asked.
(Saturday 18 November 2023; 22:16)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,105)
by Jamie from UK
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I don't think I'm gonna go the NYC concert after watching clips. Gonna step this one out and see what next year brings.
(Saturday 18 November 2023; 11:08)
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Bryan Tanaka (104,098)
by Bill from the UK
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There's a rumour that Bryan Tanaka was arrested a few months ago in Brazil for his involvement in a scam several years ago (pre-Mariah). Not sure if it's true or completely made up, but that would explain his absence recently and subsequent removal from her Instagram. Or, they may have simply broken up. It happens.
As for the Christmas concerts, I'm not even going to waste my time watching the videos. It's the same thing we see every year. Like you all, I fear for Mariah's wellbeing and whatever she is battling. But continuing the charade is not helping anyone. The truth will come out one day I suppose.
(Friday 17 November 2023; 22:17)
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