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Here For It All (111,875)
by Edward from USA
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I think there's another key element, Mariah's voice, specifically the belting. When you hear names like Mariah or Whitney, you instantly think of powerhouse vocals. Up until MIAM, we still got a taste of that from her. I really think Mariah should bring back some belting, at least on a few tracks, even if she never performs them live. That's something the general public truly misses from her. Just my humble opinion. There are plenty of songs on E=MC² where she belted, and most of them were never performed live anyway.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 01:31)
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Here For It All (111,873)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. Caution had the same downward fall on the Billboard 200. My new friend says that downward fall is typical of independent album releases. There is only one explanation to go back to. HFIA didn't have a Top 10 hit on the Billboard 100 at the time of its release. I keep going back to this point. At least one JD or Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis song would have sat nicely on the album for a hit Hot 100 song.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 01:02)
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Here For It All (111,874)
by Edward from USA
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I hope she learned her lesson. I've said it a million times, seven years is way too long for a current artist, and for a legacy artist, it's basically career suicide. The thing is, since "Caution", the only decent thing she's put out is the acoustic version of "Close My Eyes". Everything else, including "Falling in Love at Christmas", has been pretty meh. "Save the Day" was another letdown. "HFIA" proved that when she really puts in the effort, she can still deliver something amazing.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 01:19)
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Here For It All (111,871)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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In its second week, Here For It All drops 180 spots to number 187 on Billboard's Hot 200.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 00:16)
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Here For It All (111,873)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. Caution had the same downward fall on the Billboard 200. My new friend says that downward fall is typical of independent album releases. There is only one explanation to go back to. HFIA didn't have a Top 10 hit on the Billboard 100 at the time of its release. I keep going back to this point. At least one JD or Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis song would have sat nicely on the album for a hit Hot 100 song.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 01:02)
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Here For It All (111,871)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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In its second week, Here For It All drops 180 spots to number 187 on Billboard's Hot 200.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 00:16)
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2025 (111,872)
by Bobby A from United States
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I don't think we did.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 00:47)
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2025 (111,864)
by Tevin from USA
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Did we even have a song of the summer this year?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:41)
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Here For It All (111,871)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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In its second week, Here For It All drops 180 spots to number 187 on Billboard's Hot 200.
(Wednesday 15 October 2025; 00:16)
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Here For It All (111,801)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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According to HitsDailyDouble, the album is out of the top 50 in its second week.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 01:26)
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LC vs. AIWFCIY (111,870)
by Bobby A from United States
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Do you think the battle will happen this year?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 23:32)
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Is HFIA her ILTY? (111,869)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Is Here for It All to Mariah what I Look to You was to Whitney? It was agreed upon by her fans that Whitney didn't need to tour with that album, but what else could've been done to promote it? Similarly, I don't think Mariah is in the space nor has the interest to tour, so what should her PR strategy for the album be?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 21:19)
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Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,868)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Bedtime stories is Madonna's best album and it has been neglected by her they way Mariah neglects Daydream and Emotions.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 21:16)
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Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,819)
by Bobby A from United States
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November 28th is the day the Untold Chapter EP with demos, alternate mixes and remixes will be released along with the original album on a 2CD set and other vinyl variants. Why do I think Madonna is following how MC is releasing her anniversary albums? This is the Madonna album to have in your vinyl collection.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 12:35)
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Some random idea (111,867)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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Updated greatest hits as in she re-sang the songs?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 21:13)
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Some random idea (111,840)
by T from USA
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Mariah would never sing a current popular singer's song. She also would never work with JLo. But you got me thinking what she could've done for HFIA. She could've pulled a Michael Jackson and done a double disc called "Herstory" and the first disc could've been an updated greatest hits and the second disc could've been the new album. Call the whole thing "Herstory: Here For It all" and have the album cover a statue of her, like a play on MJ's picture. Then people who would've bought it for the greatest hits would hear all the new songs. At least it would've sold double the amount in the first week and more in the long term.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 15:00)
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Wait, seriously? Nothing for Daydream30? (111,866)
by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States
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As the biggest Daydream-era stan, it is shameful that Mariah gave a half-hearted "happy anniversary Daydream" repost and that's it for the landmark album. Music Box, Merry Christmas, Butterfly, Ones, Rainbow, and Mimi all got deluxe/special releases. Hell, even MIAM, Memoirs, and E=MC2 got Amazon special releases.
It's obvious she hates the Emotions album so I'm never surprised when it is paid dust. But Madame Daydream? She is quick to remind people of the hits from the album, she is quick to praise UTS, she is quick to accept the praise for the groundbreaking Fantasy remix, she is quick to tell you she directed 2 videos this era.
I've long suspected, and she said it once, that Daydream is bittersweet for her but to ignore it like this is disrespectful to the fans.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 21:12)
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More thoughts (111,865)
by Tevin from USA
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Katie is trying to be nonchalant about it, and she's going to extremes to prove she's fine without it. (A relevant career.)
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:44)
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More thoughts (111,855)
by Edward from USA
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Exactly my point. "HFIA" actually performed well, especially for a legacy artist. Ed Sheeran's "Play" debuted at #5 on the Billboard 200, then dropped to #40, #83, and fell off completely, and that was with three charting singles beforehand: "Azizam" peaked at #28, "Sapphire" at #74, and "Old Phone" at #89. Katy Perry's "143" debuted at #6, just about 1K above Mariah's numbers, then plunged to #76 before disappearing from the Top 200 altogether. Considering how long it's been since Mariah released a new album, her numbers are actually ok, especially compared to other legacy artists and their recent releases. We really need to cut Mariah some slack.
I knew Katy Perry would have to eat her words eventually. She once shaded Mariah by saying, "Mariah would be good for a throwback," implying she was no longer relevant. Funny how things turn out, just a few years later, it's Katy's own career that came crashing down.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 02:25)
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2025 (111,864)
by Tevin from USA
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Did we even have a song of the summer this year?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:41)
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2025 (111,858)
by Giovanni from USA
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Thank you for that information jaker20. It seems like 2025 has not been the year for music and it feels dead with so many artists flopping. HFIA is definitely one of the best albums of 2025 in my opinion and I hope Mariah doesn't abandon it just yet. I would like if she performed "Jesus I do" and "Nothing is impossible" at her Christmas shows. I'm not the only one who believes her team is awful and pretty useless. She needs better people especially to help with social media. I also wish Mariah had a better manager. Benny Medina was great but he is currently JLo's manager lol. JLo's music career is pretty much over, her last album sold less than 15,000 copies so Mariah sold more than This Is Me flop. Also her new movie seems to be bombing at the box office so I wonder what's left next for JLo?Mariah is an actual legend and icon, music royalty who still has a lot to offer. I may be selfish but I never want her to stop recording songs. I would like her to rest more, maybe take a break after December and spend time with her kids because she has been working so much this year.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 08:58)
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Retrospective moments (111,863)
by Tevin from USA
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But is it tanking, when almost every artist in the industry minus about 5, has around the same numbers as Mariah?
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:38)
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Retrospective moments (111,854)
by Lambi from USA
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Not a set up at all. Just painting a very clear picture on how hard Mariah banked on and pushed this album.
My point was simply Mariah got more "brand new" artist treatment than an actual relatively new artist and still tanked.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 02:11)
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Hostage release Nothing Is Impossible (111,862)
by Geronimo from USA
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That would be utterly ridiculous - although, I am afraid Mariah would probably go for it with her ahistorical self.
The better video for Nothing is Impossible would show the indigenous people returning to their home despite an international effort to remove them from the face of the planet and give their land to genocidal settlers.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 19:36)
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Hostage release Nothing Is Impossible (111,843)
by T from USA
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I just heard president Trump talk about the prisoners harrowing nights. And immediately I thought if a TikTok is made with NII using the visuals of the hostages being reunited with their families, it would be such a touching and viral moment.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 16:10)
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2025 (111,861)
by Lara from Middle East
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I really want a good video from Mariah with a nice story line. As someone else mentioned her last decent one was Obsessed. All the rest were like glamour shots. And NII might be the most appropriate for a story. Her line "closing my eyes was so unpleasant" seems to écho "close my eyes". She can't start the video with "young Mariah" and snippet of "close my eyes" and show some of the adversity she went through and keep going until recently from literally the "gruesome fall" in 2013, the NYC fiasco and Stella, the medical challenges whether from her bipolar, shoulder, voice, whatever she's going through to show how despite all she's still here. I'm sure she has tons of behind the scenes footage to use. And please no gowns and diamonds. We need Mariah to be relatable. Part of the comeback in 2005 was because her image post 2003 showed some humility.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 14:47)
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2025 (111,859)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I think the album will jump again with Christmas coming up. It would be great if she would release "Nothing Is Impossible" with a great inspiring video with Christmas vibes in it, an actual story line, like in Through The Rain. I think it would do so so well.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 11:37)
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What’s next? (111,860)
by Bobby A from United States
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In January or February would be perfect for the deluxe version to be released. I suspect the most of the uptempo and midtempo songs will receive a hip hop treatment. I would love for JD to remix IYF with a 90's sample. I am excited to see what happens in 2026.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 12:43)
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What’s next? (111,856)
by Shezz from Pk
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Word on the internet is that she's not giving up on HFIA and has some things planned, probably with the deluxe. We're just two weeks until Christmas season - I think she will transition to that soon and focus on getting back her Hot 100 crown (solo this time).
She should ride that wave into the new year and then give HFIA another solid push in the new year with a digital deluxe release in January with some high profile collaborations / remixes on it like Paul McCartney and SZA that she was already working on.
The album release and Mimi tour dates should have been planned better to give her enough time post release but no use crying over that now. She will give us a few more songs to love I'm sure soon enough. Then she should take the entire year off and relax.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 05:29)
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2025 (111,859)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I think the album will jump again with Christmas coming up. It would be great if she would release "Nothing Is Impossible" with a great inspiring video with Christmas vibes in it, an actual story line, like in Through The Rain. I think it would do so so well.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 11:37)
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2025 (111,858)
by Giovanni from USA
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Thank you for that information jaker20. It seems like 2025 has not been the year for music and it feels dead with so many artists flopping. HFIA is definitely one of the best albums of 2025 in my opinion and I hope Mariah doesn't abandon it just yet. I would like if she performed "Jesus I do" and "Nothing is impossible" at her Christmas shows. I'm not the only one who believes her team is awful and pretty useless. She needs better people especially to help with social media. I also wish Mariah had a better manager. Benny Medina was great but he is currently JLo's manager lol. JLo's music career is pretty much over, her last album sold less than 15,000 copies so Mariah sold more than This Is Me flop. Also her new movie seems to be bombing at the box office so I wonder what's left next for JLo?Mariah is an actual legend and icon, music royalty who still has a lot to offer. I may be selfish but I never want her to stop recording songs. I would like her to rest more, maybe take a break after December and spend time with her kids because she has been working so much this year.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 08:58)
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by Giovanni from USA
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Thank you for that information jaker20. It seems like 2025 has not been the year for music and it feels dead with so many artists flopping. HFIA is definitely one of the best albums of 2025 in my opinion and I hope Mariah doesn't abandon it just yet. I would like if she performed "Jesus I do" and "Nothing is impossible" at her Christmas shows. I'm not the only one who believes her team is awful and pretty useless. She needs better people especially to help with social media. I also wish Mariah had a better manager. Benny Medina was great but he is currently JLo's manager lol. JLo's music career is pretty much over, her last album sold less than 15,000 copies so Mariah sold more than This Is Me flop. Also her new movie seems to be bombing at the box office so I wonder what's left next for JLo?Mariah is an actual legend and icon, music royalty who still has a lot to offer. I may be selfish but I never want her to stop recording songs. I would like her to rest more, maybe take a break after December and spend time with her kids because she has been working so much this year.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 08:58)
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More thoughts (111,857)
by jaker20 from US
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It's unfortunate that she will always be viewed within the lens of commercial success over the quality but it is partly her making for building her career that way so it's not necessarily wrong I guess.
Before the release of the album, I thought it won't be possible to be the queen of Christmas and have a hugely successful non-Christmas album. I just don't see how the public will shift between the two.
If she wants to do both, it would have to be at the expense of somewhat ok studio albums success and she has to be ok with that. That means doing it multiple tries more regularly, not one album every 7 years.
I think the covers album is sounding like a very good idea now, especially with how well My Love turned out.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 06:38)
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More thoughts (111,855)
by Edward from USA
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Exactly my point. "HFIA" actually performed well, especially for a legacy artist. Ed Sheeran's "Play" debuted at #5 on the Billboard 200, then dropped to #40, #83, and fell off completely, and that was with three charting singles beforehand: "Azizam" peaked at #28, "Sapphire" at #74, and "Old Phone" at #89. Katy Perry's "143" debuted at #6, just about 1K above Mariah's numbers, then plunged to #76 before disappearing from the Top 200 altogether. Considering how long it's been since Mariah released a new album, her numbers are actually ok, especially compared to other legacy artists and their recent releases. We really need to cut Mariah some slack.
I knew Katy Perry would have to eat her words eventually. She once shaded Mariah by saying, "Mariah would be good for a throwback," implying she was no longer relevant. Funny how things turn out, just a few years later, it's Katy's own career that came crashing down.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 02:25)
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What’s next? (111,856)
by Shezz from Pk
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Word on the internet is that she's not giving up on HFIA and has some things planned, probably with the deluxe. We're just two weeks until Christmas season - I think she will transition to that soon and focus on getting back her Hot 100 crown (solo this time).
She should ride that wave into the new year and then give HFIA another solid push in the new year with a digital deluxe release in January with some high profile collaborations / remixes on it like Paul McCartney and SZA that she was already working on.
The album release and Mimi tour dates should have been planned better to give her enough time post release but no use crying over that now. She will give us a few more songs to love I'm sure soon enough. Then she should take the entire year off and relax.
(Tuesday 14 October 2025; 05:29)
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More thoughts (111,855)
by Edward from USA
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Exactly my point. "HFIA" actually performed well, especially for a legacy artist. Ed Sheeran's "Play" debuted at #5 on the Billboard 200, then dropped to #40, #83, and fell off completely, and that was with three charting singles beforehand: "Azizam" peaked at #28, "Sapphire" at #74, and "Old Phone" at #89. Katy Perry's "143" debuted at #6, just about 1K above Mariah's numbers, then plunged to #76 before disappearing from the Top 200 altogether. Considering how long it's been since Mariah released a new album, her numbers are actually ok, especially compared to other legacy artists and their recent releases. We really need to cut Mariah some slack.
I knew Katy Perry would have to eat her words eventually. She once shaded Mariah by saying, "Mariah would be good for a throwback," implying she was no longer relevant. Funny how things turn out, just a few years later, it's Katy's own career that came crashing down.
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by jaker20 from US
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"Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think."
The last releases from Katy Perry, Doja Cat, Shania Twain, Carrie Underwood, Miley Cyrus, Ellie Goulding did either around same or worse than HFIA. But for pure sales, Mariah did better than all of them.
P.nk and Selena Gomez did better but didn't even do gold, nor produced any top 40 single. Alicia Key's last 2 albums didn't even chart.
Justin Bieber's last album did significantly better in streaming, but did pitiful 6K pure sales, significantly worse than Mariah's. Jack Harlow did much worse. Maroon 5's last 2 album significantly did worse than Mariah's pure sales, the last one didn't even chart top 20. Ed Sheeran's album did slightly better than HFIA but came and went.
Save for a few like Taylor and Bruno Mars, not many are actually doing all that good right now. Ariana, Beyonce's and Lady Gaga's last albums are some of the "best selling" albums this year and last year. They also sold about the same as Glitter. As Lizzo has said, the industry is in shambles right now. 
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Retrospective moments (111,854)
by Lambi from USA
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Not a set up at all. Just painting a very clear picture on how hard Mariah banked on and pushed this album.
My point was simply Mariah got more "brand new" artist treatment than an actual relatively new artist and still tanked.
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Retrospective moments (111,849)
by jaker20 from US
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That is unfair to compare Mariah, who is a legacy act with 35 year career, to Morgan Wallen. You are basically setting her up.
And of course they will hype the album. They won't actually say "we'd be happy if it does better than Miley Cyrus, Shania Twain and Katy Perry's last albums" which are all signed to major labels.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 18:51)
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More thoughts (111,853)
by jaker20 from US
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"Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think."
The last releases from Katy Perry, Doja Cat, Shania Twain, Carrie Underwood, Miley Cyrus, Ellie Goulding did either around same or worse than HFIA. But for pure sales, Mariah did better than all of them.
P.nk and Selena Gomez did better but didn't even do gold, nor produced any top 40 single. Alicia Key's last 2 albums didn't even chart.
Justin Bieber's last album did significantly better in streaming, but did pitiful 6K pure sales, significantly worse than Mariah's. Jack Harlow did much worse. Maroon 5's last 2 album significantly did worse than Mariah's pure sales, the last one didn't even chart top 20. Ed Sheeran's album did slightly better than HFIA but came and went.
Save for a few like Taylor and Bruno Mars, not many are actually doing all that good right now. Ariana, Beyonce's and Lady Gaga's last albums are some of the "best selling" albums this year and last year. They also sold about the same as Glitter. As Lizzo has said, the industry is in shambles right now. 
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by Dove from United States
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I'm sorry about my outburst in my last post. I don't know what came over me. Even if everything had gone perfectly, I still don't think HFIA would have sold better than it did. I think those of us who are lifelong fans would have bought it even if she hadn't been on any TV shows. Everyone did everything right. They had her on all the right shows, her outfits were good, she looked beautiful, the album is solid. I don't know what you have to do to get a #1 hit these days. Do you guys really think Gamma is not happy with these numbers? I thought independent labels expected to sell less? Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 06:10)
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My single choices + videos (111,852)
by jaker20 from US
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That's a good idea. "In Your Feelings" is actually gaining in Urban and R&B all by itself being a good song that it is. I just want a really good video from Mariah, can we get a good video? I'd rather her flop and make good videos. I'm surprised that she's not putting that effort even on her Christmas catalog. She should have a good new video every season.
Now, enough time has passed, so I'm going to be honest: I don't think Type Dangerous is a good video. I'm glad it got her an MTV award, and that many here thinks it looks expensive. I actually think it looks very cheap, as in CGI greenscreen cheap. The Sugar Sweet clip of her doing whatever she's doing (I think she's trying TikTok choreo) is honestly embarrassing. And that Play That Song video looks shot on iPhone.
I think I've said this a few times: I don't think Mariah's had a good video, since, maybe Obsessed. That's why that song has become an unexpected timeless hit for her because it's a good video. It has a concept that goes viral every now and then, and not necessarily expensive looking. Kids take a clip from it, and it goes viral.
Mariah hasn't had a good video because she can't be directed. They likely just say to her: "Do what you feel like doing and hold the brush like a microphone." But her greatest videos always have a director who is in control of the creative process, who push her to do as instructed.
And in this time of Mariah's career, she can't be told what to do and receive instructions, that's why she can't even do basic choreo and make good videos anymore.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 20:22)
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My single choices (111,829)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC said today leaving Thailand that she thinks "In Your Feelings" will be the next single. It makes sense since Urban AC radio is playing it already.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 00:45)
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Some random idea (111,851)
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Absolutely. Great post. "The difference is Mariah doesn't respect JLo's talent." What talent, to look good? Lol. Mariah will never ever work with J.Lo. Not for a movie and not for music. She really can't stand her for many reasons which I totally understand. And yes, after Tommy the media problems began. Most people didn't like her "new image".
(Monday 13 October 2025; 20:15)
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by T from USA
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Mariah and Whitney became friends once they were finally locked in a room together and got to know each other. The difference is Mariah doesn't respect JLo's talent. And she's probably a little jealous of what she's achieved by having good PR and management teams. Where Mariah always perceives herself as having a rough time with the media, JLo is somewhat a media darling. Mariah should realize she had it pretty easy out there during the Tommy years because he shielded her from scrutiny. Mariah's media problems really started after she left the safety net that was Tommy.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 15:16)
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