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My single choices (111,829) by Bobby A from United States
MC said today leaving Thailand that she thinks "In Your Feelings" will be the next single. It makes sense since Urban AC radio is playing it already.
(Monday 13 October 2025; 00:45)
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Charts (111,828) by Dove from United States
I've been thinking about it and I honestly don't care anymore if Mariah charts or doesn't chart again. I think I used to care more when Caution came out. If this is her last album, it's a good way to go out. If she releases another album, of course I'll buy it. I think she gave her best with performances and appearances, even if it didn't seem like it. I feel like something is going on with her, and even though I'd like to know, she doesn't owe us that. I just hope she does whatever she needs to do that's best for her. I just want her to take care of herself.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 23:41)
Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,827) by Bobby A from United States
I really was trying to say how expansive Bedtime Stories anniversary celebration is just like MC did for TEOM. I forgot to mention that part. It is a part of her deal with Warner Bros to bring all of her post-2008 albums under one label. I wonder, would Sony Legacy be willing to do that for MC for her four Def Jam albums, release Right To Dream on vinyl and her one Epic album under one label. It would also probably help her secure a deal with Sony Legacy to release Somebody's Ugly Daughter sooner rather than later. I kind of feel like Sony Legacy is not willing to release SUG. It just seems like they are not on board with the idea. It would be the perfect Record Store Day release.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 21:58)
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Retrospective moments (111,826) by Lee from USA
I disagree. Janet and Mary J Blige go hard on stage. Yet their new music still flopped. Besides, she still gets rave reviews in her Asian concerts. You can't top the Hot 100 for 7 years straight and sell venues without putting in some effort.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 19:04)
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Thoughts (111,825) by BFF from United States
I have to say that I am super disappointed in the launch and performance of the album. I didn't expect a massive single or huge sales like Taylor Swift or Beyonce, but I think a Top 40 single like "#Beautiful" was definitely a realistic goal. I agree with T's post. "Type Dangerous" was the right launch single - it outperformed all of the singles released from "Caution" and was her first non-Holiday solo Hot 100 appearance in a decade (last one was "Infinity" in 2015). It was positioned in much the same way that "It's Like That" was in 2005 to drum up buzz for "The Emancipation of Mimi".

They should have pivoted to "Play This Song" as the second single rather than "Sugar Sweet." A duet with Anderson .Paak had a much better chance of taking off on the charts after the momentum built by TD.

I definitely called this months ago when I wrote that the album release was too close to the Holiday season. The album seemed ready to go back in June, so they could have released it in July/August. But they waited too long and made the wrong single choices and now HFIA is quickly being memory holed by the overseas Mimi anniversary tour engagements and Mariah's annual Christmas blitz.

I love the album, and I am proud that Mariah put out something so great. But it's frustrating to wait seven years and then have the album perform so poorly. Tina Turner, Cher, Madonna, and Aretha Franklin were all still having Top 40 hits into their 50s, and I just felt that Mariah had at least one more non-Holiday midsized or big hit in the cards.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:53)
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Some random idea (111,824) by Lara from Middle East
Next compilation idea could be The Covers like she did for The Rarities. Mariah has her way with covers disc 1 could be covers of recent popular songs with their author (might be expensive though to get the copyrights?), for example imagine her covering IDGF with Dua Lipa, Versace on the Floor with Bruno Mars, Please Please Please with Sabrina Carpenter etc. and disc 2 will be all the covers she already did. More wild, imagine her doing a duet with JLo, she's singing and JLo dancing. If there's any other single to get from HFIA, I'd like it to be Nothing is Impossible. It's her most relatable song. HFIA is beautiful but feels more personal. An idea for the video clip could be like a mini movie on her medical struggles that could explain why she's so stiff. And how despite it all she's still in the music industry because nothing is impossible.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:38)
It's sad (111,823) by Lara from Middle East
I agree. Mariah did her homework but didn't score. Is there really a conspiracy? Or is it because she's not relatable anymore? We all get she's a diva and she's fully on board with this but that might be the reason people get away. You cannot relate easily to her songs anymore. You cannot relate to her daily attitude. When was the last time you saw her in a lay down ensemble? It;s always gowns, diamonds and heels. And she doesn't move comfortably in them. Males you think why keep doing it? And in one of her recent appearances the host ask her about Crocs, to which she answers "yey" to which I was completely surprised. There was a lot of damage done from Stella's era showing her luxurious lifestyle, I think people cannot connect to her anymore and i.e. to her music.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 17:22)
My single choices (111,822) by T from USA
I think Type Dangerous was a great way to launch the era, but as soon as it hit #95 on Billboard I think they should've pivoted to song #2 with Anderson. That way he could've performed with her on the VMA's. With an exciting music video it would've been a nice summer moment. Once you have all eyes on her you release the third song a week before the album comes out which would be IYF. And the forth and last single would've been HFIA in early November along with "it's time".
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 14:18)
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Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,821) by Lighty from China
Mariah was not the first one to release anniversary albums like that though. Everyone was doing that.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 14:15)
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Retrospective moments (111,820) by Lambi from USA
Morgan Wallen only did SNL, one festival, a couple of radio interviews, and a few YouTube acoustic sessions. He still pulled 493,000 units in his debut week. The timing of his tour helped, but the rollout was minimal. But do you know how much more Mariah did?

• BET, iHeartRadio, the VMAs.
• Ridiculous amount of podcast and radio interviews.
• A jam-packed week of TV appearances close to release date.
• In-store events, magazine covers.
• Huge international festivals.
• An Apple Music special.
• A high-budget video for T:D.
• Stripped versions of the album's songs.
• Collaboration with other artists.
• Three singles released.

This is why we can confidently say her numbers are indeed pathetic. I don't fault Bobby A. for assuming something is suspicious. It's actually pretty valid.

People keep saying, "Oh, she doesn't have to chart. Let's just enjoy it." But that's not what she said. Mariah made it clear, this was her goal. To finish strong. Had she not prefaced it like that, maybe the numbers wouldn't sting so much. She obviously didn't join a 400 million dollar company for a $39k debut. For the first time in a while, she was genuinely fired up about her career. She was locked in on pursuing a tangible goal.

Part of me believes there's some truth in Bobby A's claim (deep in my dive right now), but another part of me believes the public has actually just checked out on her. The big promotional opportunities actually just backfired. People saw the VMAs. They saw how stiff, uninterested and lazy she was. Why in the world would anyone spend money on that? The free market will blatantly always tell you.

The caricature of Mariah, the "lip-syncing phony" seems to have won. On one hand, I feel bad, but on another hand, I hope this truly wakes her up. She can post these fleeting weekly Billboard numbers to soften the blow, but we know she's embarrassed. And to be fair, who wouldn't be?

Nonetheless, I am grateful Mariah truly doesn't let go. "They chase me down but I'm still rolling, something in me cannot be stolen, I will not break, I won't be broken, it's deep, can't you see?" I believe these are the words that echo in her mind as she journeyed this album. No groundbreaking single, but very solid songs. Nothing Is Impossible and Here For It All are on repeat. A good body of work indeed. And I believe she will get that 20th number one. This flop will just make her go harder. She's fully lost her ability to perform on stage, but the creativity is still as strong as ever. And it's really her creativity that always lands her at #1.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 14:09)
Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,819) by Bobby A from United States
November 28th is the day the Untold Chapter EP with demos, alternate mixes and remixes will be released along with the original album on a 2CD set and other vinyl variants. Why do I think Madonna is following how MC is releasing her anniversary albums? This is the Madonna album to have in your vinyl collection.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 12:35)
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Play This Song (111,818) by Zachariah from Croatia
Maybe if they did a more interesting video, but yeah, it is just [too] common.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 12:13)
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Play This Song (111,817) by Lighty from China
It's just not a very well-written song, not catchy. Most people will wonder where the chorus is upon first listen. Takes a few more listens to grow on you.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 04:12)
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Play This Song (111,816) by Edward from USA
The song is flat, it lacks and some vocal moment. "Leave The Door Open" is on different level. I'm surprised they chose that as a single.
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 02:55)
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My single choices (111,815) by Dove from United States
My single choices in order:

Here for it All
In Your Feelings
Type: Dangerous
My Love (I may be biased on this one since it was one of my favorite songs already)

What are yours?
(Sunday 12 October 2025; 02:39)
Play This Song (111,814) by Bobby A from United States
It is interesting that Play This Song didn't take off on Urban AC radio. I wonder is it because the sound is too retro and similar to Leave The Door Open by Silk Sonic and a boring video. We have been there and done that already in the past five years. Anyone, NBC will repeat MC's and Anderson's Tonight Show performance this coming Thursday.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 22:10)
Madonna's Bed Time Stories new song (111,813) by T from USA
Madge just put out an unreleased song from the Bed Time Stories era that was funnily enough produced by Dallas Austin. She must be reading this board. So I went on his Instagram and he's busy producing for a lot of new up and comers and the music sounds good.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 13:53)
Thoughts (111,812) by Dove from United States
You're probably right. I was having a typical emotional upset.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 13:19)
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Thoughts (111,811) by MusicfanJ from Germany
To be relaxed with a "magic brownie" means nothing and isn't a good idea. Real relaxation need no drugs. A coffee, a tea or a juice is a better and healthier thing. A glass of wine is also okay (not too often), but only if the person doesn't. take medecine. I don't want to see Mariah in Jamaica with weed. Free time, going to the nature is good to relax. Shopping isn't needed too.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 12:38)
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It will be a hit (111,810) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I agree, "Nothing is Impossible" has the most potential for a hit from the album. It would suit perfect for the November/December mood.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 12:25)
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Thoughts (111,809) by Bobby A from United States
I guess now all we have to look forward to is her annual "It's time" video. HFIA is probably done on the charts. HFIA just had too much of a waste hype period (AI term from an answer about why labels frown about social media song drops by artists) from two weeks after SS was released to the album released date. The waste hype period was too long without a Top 10 single like Obsessed. A third single like Obsessed ft. Bruno Mars is what HFIA needed after SS was released. Oh well, I feel MC17 won't take seven years to be released since MC knows now that her music still intrigues people.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 09:59)
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More thoughts (111,808) by Dove from United States
I'm sorry about my outburst in my last post. I don't know what came over me. Even if everything had gone perfectly, I still don't think HFIA would have sold better than it did. I think those of us who are lifelong fans would have bought it even if she hadn't been on any TV shows. Everyone did everything right. They had her on all the right shows, her outfits were good, she looked beautiful, the album is solid. I don't know what you have to do to get a #1 hit these days. Do you guys really think Gamma is not happy with these numbers? I thought independent labels expected to sell less? Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 06:10)
It will be a hit (111,807) by Tevin from USA
Sweet, thanks for the info.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 05:44)
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It will be a hit (111,806) by Edward from USA
Caution's trajectory on the BB200 albums was 5, 40, 100. At this point, I don't think that would help either. Hopefully it will do better in Asia.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 03:31)
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Thoughts (111,805) by Dove from United States
Oof. Maybe I'm just in a negative mood right now. I try to see the bright side of things but right now I can only see the negative.

Every time we saw Mariah these past few months she looked like she was not fully present. She looks tired and stiff. Like she's suffering with a medical condition. If she is, and she was transparent about it, maybe people who have more compassion. (Not everyone, some people are just assholes no matter the circumstance.)

To me the best song on HFIA is HFIA. That's the one I would have chosen for the radio. (I know I said before I wanted an upbeat song but I hadn't heard HFIA yet.)

If Sugar Sweet was chosen because it is easier to sing, she could still sing that one for promotional performances. It's still a new song. She could say she can only sing HFIA when she's having a good voice day. We would all understand that.

Music videos need to be more not boring. Glamour shots are nice but for 3 minutes? Plus, Mariah doesn't look real in her music videos. It's like getting a Barbie on a stand and shooting her from different angles. We all know you're hot Mariah. Might as well make AI ones with a video game version of her. It would probably be more fun to watch.

There are good songs on HFIA but I don't think any performance or appearances are going to help right now. Not even videos if they're boring. She's not the best promotional vehicle right now. The people who were going to buy the album already did.

What I think she should do is go to Jamaica (or somewhere humid and tropical where the climate will help her sound her best) with her friends for a few months, eat some cosmic brownies, and record a bunch of cover songs. Maybe that will inspire her to write some new songs.

They can take a bunch of videos and use that footage to make videos. When she's relaxed.

I don't use drugs and usually I don't endorse them but Mariah in Jamaica in 2015 was the most relaxed and vocally free I've ever seen her.
(Saturday 11 October 2025; 03:27)

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