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About Stephen from London, United Kingdom: Mariah fan since 1902.

Re: Martyn who? He is not the only victim (75,698) (75,723) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom You're disgusting. What gives you the right to judge the value of someone's life? I do not think anybody in their right mind would not have sympathy and support for anyone suffering these vile acts worldwide. That does not mean we cannot single Martyn out to show respect. He is after all, one of our own, in that he is a lamb. People on this board will be more affected by Martyn's death because of his association to Mariah and this messageboard. We have every right to pay our respects. If you don't like it, then perhaps find a more appropriate web based community to share your "values" with. (Thursday 25 May 2017; 19:22)

Martyn (75,662) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom God bless Martyn and his family. I did not know him personally, but I had interactions with him on this messageboard in many a year gone by. He always seemed like a lovely, respectful person. May he rest in peace. He seemed to touch so many people, even those he had not met. A testiment to how much of a wonderful person he was. (Wednesday 24 May 2017; 18:34)

Vocal decline / Edward (47,203) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I think it's apparent for all to see that Mariah's vocals are in horrific shape. Some may deny it, but I think a touch of honesty is in order. Edward, don't you find it interesting how a lot of people have picked up on what you and I have been saying for a while, and have now criticised Mariah? Yet, when you and I have done the same, for the same reasons, they hypocritically jumped on us. Unfortunately, that's the level of what appears to be the large majority of this board. Quite frankly, I'm sick of posting a message containing my opinion and then having to deal with ill informed, and to be honest, rather stupid people. At this point, I no longer have the desire, nor the inclination to post. If the webmaster could give you my email, it would be much appreciated. We can start our own dialogue there if you should so wish. (Monday 6 October 2014; 19:44)

Edward / ridiculousness (46,943) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Thank you for handling the response to this nonsense. I never said that people shouldn't post lists. It's cool if they want to, I do tend to just scroll past them anyway. However, I can exclaim my disdain or disinterest in these posts if choose to do so. It's not that deep, it's not that big a deal, so people should just get over it and continue posting their lists if that's what they want to do. However, if I want to yawn every time I see them, or you want to make a joke based on the sheer amount of them we've had to endure recently, then that's our prerogative. And as for someone saying we are the reason they don't post much, seriously, go grow a pair. (Thursday 25 September 2014; 1:08)

Edward (46,910) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Keep your posts coming lol. These endless lists bore me to tears. (Tuesday 23 September 2014; 12:01)

Edward (46,836) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Thanks for the message. Wendy just isn't constructive. I see the appeal with her show, but it's not for me. I don't believe Wendy has any real opinion, she floats with popular opinion and seeks to take it a step further to grab attention for her show. Just compare the Wendy that appeared on radio to TV. There's a clear difference in her personality and demeanour. She disingenuous. (Thursday 18 September 2014; 21:50)

Edward (46,821) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom You're hilarious. I guess some people don't get your humour. I do agree re Wendy though. She's such a hypocrite. The way she spoke about and to Whitney in the years before her death was nothing short of disgusting. She then had the cheek to cry on her show when she died. She's a vile gossip monger, who doesn't have a real opinion on anything. She changes her opinion with the flow of wind. Whenever Mariah has been down in her career, she's tried kicking her. I say tried, because something as distasteful and unimportant as Wendy could never "kick" Mariah. She's irrelevant. Her opinions defy logic IMO. Regarding your drag queen comment, I've seen dogs dressed as bitches in drag with more going for them in the looks department. (Wednesday 17 September 2014; 19:20)

JayCarey (46,612) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Beautiful rendition of the song and such a great voice on top of that too. I'm sure Mariah would love that version. I'll take a listen to some of your other stuff later. Keep them coming lol. (Thursday 4 September 2014; 11:09)

Stacey (46,355) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom You know what they say about great minds, right? Lol. I agree, I hope it can be sorted out amicably too. However, if Nick couldn't keep his mouth shut during the marriage, I can't foresee him doing that in the long term post any divorce. Whilst I feel for Mariah, my last post doesn't take away from my opinions re how Mariah should have got out there and promoted MIAMTEC. Whilst, I now understand why she hasn't, I personally would have gone out there held my job and career together. With that being said, I'm trying not to judge, as I've never been divorced, thankfully lol. (Monday 25 August 2014; 12:28)

Mariah and Nick (46,321) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom It's sad that Mariah and Nick are over. Mariah's pain could be heard all over MIAMTEC, and the lyrical content of that great album tells Mariah's side of the situation. Nick and his father (if he did make those comments) can display the lack of class we have all come to witness with Nick over the years all they want, but they and the world need to recognise this; Mariah Carey will always be Mariah Carey. The same cannot be said of Nick Cannon. His defining moment was marrying Mariah. Mariah's defining moment is her legacy, which has and will continue to stand the test of time. I'm sorry if this seems a bit one sided, but as critical as I have been and can be of Mariah, I can't help but feel defensive for her right now. It's that age old thing where it's fine for us lambs to criticise Mariah, but you'll be damned if you think I'll let the smack being talked to over my head. At the end of the day, divorcing Nick will do Mariah's career the world of good, and that tells its own story. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 23:25)

Stacey (46,176) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Lol, I'm not sure I can hear that, but I kinda get where you are coming from. (Thursday 21 August 2014; 10:20)

Billy from Greece (46,154) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom That's a very good observation regarding Faded. I had never thought of it in that light, but now that you say it, I can kind of see the comparison. I love Faded. Such a great track. (Wednesday 20 August 2014; 15:39)

Stacey (46,124) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Thank you for the kind words, you're far too kind. I think Camouflage is one or the many tender moments on the album. I actually like the background vocals/layerings. To me they are representative of the many thoughts that are likely to be going through your head at the point at which you are feeling the emotions of the song. There's no clarity in your mind, yet the most heartfelt sorrow is the one that rises to the fore, being the overall theme of the song. I'm glad you are discovering the full breadth of the album, it's good to know other lambs are appreciative of such a wonderful body of work. (Tuesday 19 August 2014; 0:00)

Webmaster / press release (46,123) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I get what Eric meant with his original posts. I guess we just have to take these press releases with a pinch of salt. It's not Mariah's doing, and it's definitely the industry standard to exaggerate. Everyone else does it. I suspect the webmaster's concern is that if non fans pick up on it, such are the extent of exaggerations, that it will lead to further ridicule of Mariah. I'm definitely not mad at Mariah for it though, it's not her doing. I think the webmaster has made his point clearly enough though, and perhaps people should lay off of him. (Monday 18 August 2014; 23:51)

Stacey (46,093) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Hey Stacey, thank you for your message. I'm glad you possess the common sense that's so often missing when people decide to share their thoughts and opinions online. It's amazing how quickly people try to come at you from a personal angle when you express an opinion they don't like, and then don't expect you to defend yourself. Lol. I'm still loving the album. Money is a very enjoyable jam, but atm my favourite song is Camouflage. I can hear Mariah's heart and soul on that joint. On a different note, I've always loved hearing your thoughts and opinions on this board. (Sunday 17 August 2014; 18:10)

Anything but the truth (46,072) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Read your first response to my initial post. Read your last response. Pick out the contradictions. Learn a lesson, and move on. I don't have the time, nor the inclination to deal with you and I'm not addressing you any further. You really seem to have issues, which are far beyond the ambit of this messageboard. Laters. (Saturday 16 August 2014; 21:09)

Correction: post 46,054 (46,057) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I meant to say "take seriously" in the first line. (Saturday 16 August 2014; 1:31)

Edward / work ethic (46,055) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Hey Edward, I'm glad you understand my point. It's good to know there are people on here who can keep it real. I'm not gonna respond to everyone else individually, but in terms of work ethic, I'm not for one second buying that making an album over 4 years somehow constitutes working hard. Normal mothers may have several kids, two jobs, a home to maintain amongst other things, and all without the aid of a nanny or the support network Mariah has. Most people don't have the luxury of being quicker than anyone else to fire a nanny. That's the reality. She has time to promote a soft drink, but not her album. Fans need to be real and think about the message Mariah is sending to her fans by taking such actions. I don't expect her to work like she did during TEOM, as her life has changed. I get that, but Mariah has been nowhere to be seen. I'm glad we got MIAMTEC, it's a great album, but I don't want any more music until Mariah sorts herself and her voice out. (Saturday 16 August 2014; 0:50)

The Truth (46,054) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take a post by someone who refers to their self as "The Truth" on a Mariah Carey messageboard, and has the cheek to use a picture of Eminem as their avi. There's a certain unintentional irony which makes you look ridiculous. Take a seat, and go learn the art of common sense. (Saturday 16 August 2014; 0:41)

Abraham (46,053) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I wasn't speaking for all fans. The clue is in the use if the word "some". I appreciate that you may have your own reasons for wanting or not wanting to see Mariah live, and fully get why concerns over her voice may put you off. We'll have to agree to disagree re work ethic and attitude. I'm not going to try to validate my opinion, because it's just that; an opinion. However, I must point out that I never referred to her diva antics or Ariana, and tbh I don't understand why half of your post was on Ariana. (Saturday 16 August 2014; 0:37)

Mariah's tour (46,036) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I find it interesting that some fans have said that they would rather Mariah did not tour at this moment in time. I'm not criticising them for their viewpoint, I just find it interesting that if Mariah fans are saying they would rather that she didn't tour, then perhaps Mariah should take note. It's a marker of how disgraceful her career has become. I know it sounds harsh, especially considering the fact that there are clearly things going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of, but nonetheless, her attitude and distinct lack of work ethic has ultimately done her relationship with her fans damage. Irrespective of what is going on in an artist's career, you would always expect hardcore fans to be excited to see that artist live. The fact that some Mariah fans don't seem too enthused says more about Mariah than it does about them. Personally, I think a tour in the US and Europe would be disastrous and lead to further ridicule. However, I see why she is touring Asia. She has a certain eminent of her reputation still in tact there. With all that being said, if she does come to the UK, I would certainly buy a ticket and support her. (Friday 15 August 2014; 14:21)

Firing JD (45,850) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom If Mariah has fired JD, I think it's definitely a step in the right direction, but only as long as she has hired someone who she will actually listen to. Whether Kevin Liles is that person, I don't know. He seems like a friend, and I hope that is not the case. I do hope that she has done it in the right way and does not make JD a scapegoat for what has been her less than stellar behaviour over the past year or so. Irrespective of whether we like or dislike JD, or our views on his tenure as her manager, one thing that can't be denied is his unwavering support of Mariah. I hope she has treated him with respect, and does not disregard his loyalty by making him a scapegoat. With all that being said, it had to be done, but Mariah needs more than new management, she needs a new attitude, work ethic and dedication to her unique selling point; her voice. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:37)

Happy 4th of July (45,217) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Happy 4th of July to all the US fans. *plays 4th of July* (Friday 4 July 2014; 17:10)

PJW (44,824) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Great post. I was thinking something similar recently. Something definitely has to give. Mariah can't go on as she has been, and some kind of action needs to be taken. IMO, there's no point in Mariah having surgery unless she changes her lifestyle to accompany it. I think she needs to do something though, because as things stand, her voice is not standing up and the deterioration that has taken place has been incredibly rapid, when compared to Barbra Streisand or Celine Dion, for example. A lifestyle change, a full time vocal coach, and surgery is probably needed. Tbh, even if she lost her whistle register, it would be worth it to have the rest of her vocal capability in tact. Atm, her technique barely allows her to whistle live anyway. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 0:49)

Carlos Jaramillo (44,823) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Great post. That clip was very nice to see, and is not something I had seen before. I agree with your post, and liked the confidence Mariah exuded back then. It's such a shame the way things have turned out. Mariah seems to be a real victim of celebrity, and has lost the essence of who she is in it all. It's sad to see. I find her amusing, and still like her. There's no point in wishing she is the same person she was when she was 25. I don't know many 44 year olds who are, but it's just a shame that Mariah seems so lost at an age where she should know exactly who she is and her win self worth. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 0:41)

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