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Re: Messageboards (85,869) (85,885) by 123 from USA www.ukmix.org. You’d like the Mariah thread/topic. (Tuesday 13 November 2018; 15:29)

Mariah Carey giving advice on The Voice (85,696) by 123 from USA This is probably my favorite moment of hers from the voice. She did an excellent job analyzing the vocal performances for each artist and gave great advice that made the performances that much better. Her advice to Delaney was perfect and even sang the line the way it needed to sound as Delaney did struggle in the beginning. She gave great advice, sang, did excellent overviews of each singers performances and really came off as a likable legend with excellent musicality. This role fits her like a glove as she only works with them during rehearsals. I wouldn't mind her staying on as just the adviser since that gives her the ability to work with all the artists. This was a smart choice to put her on the show. She should have just been an adviser on idol and it would have worked out perfectly. (Wednesday 7 November 2018; 05:44)

Re: Happy Birthday Licia (85,687) (85,695) by 123 from USA Happy BDay Licia. I wish I could join you on the Charmy party. Maybe you could throw a Skype one - lol. I always said Charmbracelet is Butterfly II. Her best songwriting overall but the whisper vocals turned a lot of people away and not focus on the songs, although she did a lot of whispering on Butterfly. What's your fav songs on that album and why? (Wednesday 7 November 2018; 05:04)

Re: Brenda K Starr mad Tommy / Mariah destroyed her? (85,686) (85,689) by 123 from USA Edward I remember her saying that on Wendy's radio show but my question is why didn't she bring that up from 91-05 when they were still in good terms. Must have not bothered her then that Mariah didn't buy her a house then she just brought it up to make her look bad. Plus didn't Mariah help her out financially here and there. Also, they fell out because she went to see Mariah and Benny Medina treated her like a nobody and Mariah didn't defend her, but Brenda was kissing JLo's ass on Idol when her daughter auditioned and JLo is currently managed by Benny, so very confused by that even tho they both go back from the Bronx. Brenda was supposed to teach JLo how to sing and JLo was supposed to teach her how to dance. I don't see JLo being mad at her since that never happened - lol. (Wednesday 7 November 2018; 01:49)

Re: Bipolar and vocal issues (85,658) (85,685) by 123 from USA I love this list. Especially the clone of original Mariah. I've heard that one float around for years or that the Illuminati have the original Mariah caged somewhere. Maybe they only let her out to sing the records and then lock her back up and let the clone do the concerts -lol. And JLo stole it. You are soooo wrong. It wasn't enough she stole her concepts now she stole her voice too. (Tuesday 6 November 2018; 21:31)

Re: Brenda K Starr mad Tommy / Mariah destroyed her? (85,675) (85,677) by 123 from USA A lot of artists had projects shelved or were no longer priority once Mariah Carey was released. Her album sold and she had #1 after #1 so she became the priority. If you watch some artists "unsung" episodes, her name comes up a lot. Lisa Lisa got pushed to the back burner once Mariah came out per her unsung episode. It's even happened to Mariah. MIAM was pushed to the back burner in favor to Kanye's Yeezus album and supposedly she got upset and said that she was tired of the label bending to his every whim when she sold way more than he did for the label. A lot of artists in the early 90s felt the Mariah effect and were pushed to the wayside. (Tuesday 6 November 2018; 19:19)

B (85,593) by 123 from USA Hey B, are you in Ohio? (Sunday 4 November 2018; 01:37)

Re: A No No No (85,563) (85,580) by 123 from USA Finally you actually like something this era. Sorry to hear you have a lot going on, I can relate. She's trying to gain the young social media audience with these non single releases because older acts have trouble getting streams. Her team must have noticed that for some reason Mariah Carey "reaction" videos of her most memorable live performances seem to be quite popular. So drop a song in the middle of the night in the middle of the week, starting with a song where "Mariah Carey" is telling someone to GTFO. Seems to be working as there seems to be a lot of reaction videos to her new music and videos this era and young people seem to be interested in her music. She can't promote right now since she is on tour so why not throw out a song and video of one of the weaker tracks that will remind the young kids if the Mariah they knew (TEOM/WBT/DFAU) growing up. "She's going back to her old roots said a young blogger - lol. WY was only sent to AC formats because it was never planned to be promoted and it's probably the only song on the album that will be played on the soccer mom radio format. Once the album is released they can drop a stronger song which is usually the second single in her case and actually send it to radio formats with larger audiences and cross promote it with her Christmas music during her holiday take over. RTD holds a special place in my heart. Someone tried to commit suicide who was very close to me not too long ago and I played them the song and it became their anthem and gave them hope and the strength to keep living. They were surprised she still wrote such emotional songs. This is random but I sat with another Chicago lamb for a gathering and they randomly mentioned you and said "Isn't he bae?" You have some admirers. (Saturday 3 November 2018; 06:19)

Re: Caution tracklist (85,508) (85,534) by 123 from USA So it looks like there will be 11 songs on the Japanese version. Liron stated it is one of their favorites from the album. (Friday 2 November 2018; 01:46)

Re: Irregardless (85,477) (85,502) by 123 from USA If the only part that irked me about the song. I pretended she said it's regardless. Yup, that's what she said. Ed's explanation of it being a Mean Girls reference makes perfect sense. Like her I can't even know what to say phrase. The lyrics are clever, fun, and the arrangement is catchy. I wouldn't mind this as a single at all. Throw on Lil Kim and/Cardi B on the remix. (Thursday 1 November 2018; 06:42)

Re: A No No (85,476) (85,501) by 123 from USA Mimi L, I've been patiently waiting to hear a club banger/bop and I finally got one. Her voice sounds good on the track and I love the shady lyrics. My favorite part? "No no no no no no no no no. Get me Ed Shapiro (lawyer) on the phone case closed. I love this song as well. It will be on repeat all day tomorrow." (Thursday 1 November 2018; 06:36)

Re: Voice appearance (85,465) (85,499) by 123 from USA Hello beautiful (Mara). How are you these days? Hope all is well. Thanks. What’s your fav song of the four (A No No is now on iTunes) so far? What song of the six song titles are you excited to hear the most? (Thursday 1 November 2018; 06:31)

Re: Voice appearance (85,460) (85,498) by 123 from USA Thanks Shezz. I love your posts and you always have insightful things to say and I like your vantage point. (Thursday 1 November 2018; 06:29)

Re: Track list snippets (85,455) (85,497) by 123 from USA It has the hi hat that he is known for. Plus she has worked with young new producers and he would be the only one that would sample an overused sample from the 90s (Lil Kim, SWV). It works really well and it's my favorite song so far. It's available now on iTunes and her YouTube page. Looks like they are continuing to reveal songs to show she has a strong body of work and win over the young kids using social media since they only know her for her shade and "that Christmas song". This shady club kiss off is a bop and perfect for the clubs. I like all the songs so far. (Thursday 1 November 2018; 06:28)

Re: Voice appearance (85,466) (85,474) by 123 from USA Hello Bill. There is no deception anymore. The whole world knows she can't sing like she used to and depends on pre records. NYE exposed all of that. Everyone saw and heard that she uses pre recorded whistles on Emotions. Like I said before, everyone knows and nobody cares. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 17:03)

Re: Voice appearance (85,448) (85,459) by 123 from USA Randy. Why would you ask that question? Everyone already knows the answer or are you just baiting? When has she ever sung at random? Hardly ever, especially recently. She didn't in the carpool karaoke, she doesn't in interviews. It's been discussed ad nauseam. There was a whole back and forth about it on the board. Also, have you not been watching her concert videos? I figured you have most agree and have commented in a variety of ways that her voice hasn't been in good shape. This is one of her worst years vocally and she is only starting to sound better on her Asian leg of her tour. So if we all know she can't sing like she used to, hasn't sounded to great at all this year sans a few moments of brilliance, and hasn't done it in the past, why would she magically start singing perfectly now. If she struggles on stage, she's going to struggle at random. And we must have watched different shows. She gave some advice like telling the girl she wanted to hear more of her low notes because not everyone has that or the guy who struggled in the beginning when singing The Weeknds Earned It and she told him to use restraint or completed the 14 year old about her voice as nor her or their coach had any pointers they felt she needed. Her role was really pointless as she was never left alone to work with the contestants and their coaches were right there. I'd be rude to just take over or contradict the coach who has been working with them throughout the whole show. It was more of a ratings tactic for the show. And why wouldn't they say she is a vocal icon? One of the best voices alive. She never gets credit for what she has done vocally and finally every single person on that show revered her like she should always be revered instead of made out to be a diva. Just because she can't sing like she used to doesn't mean she should be stripped of being considered as one of the best who ever did it. No one, not even Mariah herself can compete with the vocals she delivered when she was during her prime. She should not only be recognized, but respected for the level of singing she brought to the table. Why should she be shunned for not vocally being what she once was. It doesn't take away for what she has already done and I'm confused why you are expecting something we know wasn't going to happen. We have all seen the concert footage this year. What she did do is drop the diva persona and presented herself as a humble icon and was able to slightly display her musicality. The show is helping her restore her image. Can't we at least celebrate people being able to see her for the musical genius that she is. There was not one "dahling" and the coaches loved and respected her. Why can't you? You never know when she might pass away. All big stars due and for once in a long time, she seems happy and safe. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 07:40)

Re: Track list snippets (85,445) (85,449) by 123 from USA I think he produced "A No No" which is my favorite of the 4 tracks so far. She is singing in her full voice/mid range and her tone is very Rainbow era on that track. The sample has been overused but the track is good. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 22:04)

Re: I'm in heaven (85,165) (85,175) by 123 from USA I'm pleasantly surprised by her deciding to do a contemporary pop record. She's always stayed r&b once she got artistic freedom other than Almost Home (which did nothing for me). I actually like that she is trying new sounds and co writers. There is a lot of moving parts to this song even though the beat is spare yet it all works. The simplistic hook (very non Mariah the hook queen) actually works here where the same approach on With You's hook left me underwhelmed. I like that she is strategically releasing multiple songs from the album with only one being an actual single. It brings light to songs that would have never got the light of day like any others on previous albums. I hope it gets a video, even if it's just beauty shots as long as it's well done like the last two videos. Her albums are the type where a video for every song and a innovate way to release them to the public as their own events helps bring interest to the album. (Monday 22 October 2018; 05:37)

Re: Heartbreaker (85,145) (85,174) by 123 from USA So she's bashed when she lip syncs because she should just sing live and adjust the song to her current vocals and the moment the not only pulls back on the pre record and actually attempts the original notes she's bashed for sounding strained. Then again, any of her failures or ability to meet peoples expectations is just fodder for people to troll and make visceral statements for likes. (Monday 22 October 2018; 05:07)

Slipping Away cover (85,023) by 123 from USA I really like how this band covered Slipping Away. Hopefully someone can send it to MC. I still wish she would pull this from the abysss and perform it. (Thursday 18 October 2018; 08:22)

The Distance (85,018) by 123 from USA I liked it at first listen. It wasn't the club banger smash I'm waiting for, but it instantly brought a smile to my face. She doesn't have a song like this currently. It's fresh and up tempo-ish. It's pop with a hip pop beat for all of those who have been pinning for to go back to her pop roots and make a current pop record. Another happy love song. I like the lyrics and I see she chose to apply a simple chorus like With You, however it works perfectly on this track. Especially when she starts to sing in full voice at the end, her vocals float over the track. I see she is applying the f work in every track, hence the Caution angle this era. This would fit in perfectly on the radio. The release of these songs tell a story. GTFO - breakup, WY - new love, TD - love going the distance. I want to hear the rest of the album. This song has a nice replay value. (Thursday 18 October 2018; 07:37)

Re: Mariah: queen of the redo (84,808) (84,814) by 123 from USA Whitney would do multiple takes as well. Her pre recorded National Anthem was done in two separate takes so that she sounded more powerful as told by one of the musicians in the studio with her. Also, Mariah and Whitney did go into the studio together to sing the last part of the song in tandem. Did she studio engineer those vocals too in front of the Voice? Lol. Here is proof of otherwise. Y’all want to make Mariah come off as some fraud all these years. And the vocals from Mariah are different in this video compared to what ended up on the record. Let me guess, she dubbed the vocals in this video too - lol. (Saturday 13 October 2018; 00:50)

Re: AMA choreography (84,715) (84,726) by 123 from USA Tanaka gets a bad rep. He seems to care about her and refreshingly stays in the background. I wasn't to sure about him at first but I like him. Mimi seems happy and she finally wrote a happy love song instead a sad song about heartbreak. Are we getting a song on the album where Mariah moans a la Donna Summer - lmao. How about that for the same ole thing - lol. (Thursday 11 October 2018; 02:52)

Re: AMA / disgruntled fans sticking around (84,719) (84,722) by 123 from USA Who is giving excuses? We are saying she ain't changing so why not move on? She's done the same s&@t for a minute now. Why stick around? You don't like the new music, don't like her writing, hate her vocals on record. Y'all go on a tangent when she lips (she's been doing this since 97 as you pointed out) and guess what, she's doing it even more now and surprise, will continue to do it. Hate how she dresses even though she's been wearing mermaid dresses since 1901 and had the twins out since she bought and paid for them. None of these things are new and she isn't reverting back to a better "version" of herself. I'm convinced you all just repeat the same thing but become more visceral with every response just to get likes. She can't sing like she used to and lips all the time. Where is the sham when she got blasted for the whole world to see during NYE. Everyone knows. Nobody cares. (Thursday 11 October 2018; 02:17)

ENews Mariah Carey and JLo to perform at AMAs (84,579) by 123 from USA And it begins. So every once and a while I listen to With You even though the addictive GTFO still gets the most play of her new songs, but it's becoming more catchy. I love the pre chorus. So I've decided I'm going to work on being more supportive. This roll out would have never happened a year ago around this time. Just look at pictures of her last September compared to today, just saying. Things have definitely turned around for the better. I hope she does a great job tomorrow. I need to hear this album. (Tuesday 9 October 2018; 07:02)

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