Messageboard

About 123 from USA:

All Alone In Love (D++ Edit) // Neo Soul Vibes (107,304) by 123 from USA Thank you RA. I really liked it too. I usually post any fan made remixes to songs here for people to enjoy. Especially since we don't have anything new. Yikes at those that hate it. Yes it's obviously fan made and a bit flawed but geez, why the hateful comments? The song is beautiful but the original production is dated, so I'm glad someone at least tried for some to enjoy. (Tuesday 3 September 2024; 03:46) this is a reply to message 107,297

All Alone In Love (D++ Edit) // Neo Soul Vibes (107,297) by Robert-Anthony from United States I love it. The neo-soul vibe fits AIL perfectly. RJ, what other remixes have you found on YouTube? (Monday 2 September 2024; 14:29)

All Alone In Love (D++ Edit) // Neo Soul Vibes (107,296) by 123 from USA Speaking of remixes RA, I loved this updated production to one of my favorites from her debut. I wish she would let other artists cover her album cuts/non number 1s. She has so many hidden gems. (Monday 2 September 2024; 01:51)

Return to roots (107,138) by 123 from USA Ballads don't chart anymore. You only named one artist, Adele, and she is a slight exception to the rule, but it's usually just her lead singles that are successful. Her follow up singles don't do much but she still quietly sells 30 million records. Other than Adele who else is charting with ballads? Everyone on the board always complains that she needs to do something new and work with new producers and now you are saying she should go back to only doing ballads. She never stopped doing ballads. Every time her labels try to launch her albums with ballads as lead singles they flop. [Through the rain], Your [sic] Mine, and [With you] are her signature ballad style and they flopped in the [States]. Also with Boys to Men [sic], [4 seasons of loneliness] was their lead single in 97. It went to number 1 after its second week and then disappeared. It was their last number one. All other follow up singles were ballads failed to hit number one. Their 2nd single peaked at number 7 and was their last top 10 hit. Those are facts. Portrait is another excellent example. Most people felt like it was out of place on Caution and didn't really care for it, but the Hopefull Child Remix is light years better and got a lot of love from the lambs. (Wednesday 7 August 2024; 16:31) this is a reply to message 107,134

Return to roots (107,134) by MusicfanJ from Germany "Ballads do not chart anymore." I don't think so. Adele's "Someone like you" or "Hello" are just two examples. The songs dominated the charts for weeks. If a song is outstanding it will work. No rappers and beats are needed. But a Disco Mariah would be cool. Like the new Rainbow mix. (Wednesday 7 August 2024; 08:39)

Return to roots (107,130) by 123 from USA Please no more ballads. Her discography has way too many as it is. Since the 2000s when they've tried to launch Mariah albums with a ballad and they all flopped (TTR, YM, and WY). Ballads do not chart anymore. People these days want bops, not ballads. They launched Caution with With You and the label only sent it to adult ac and urban ac. They didn't even bother to send it to major radio formats because they knew no one would play it. They figured they could get an Adult Comtempory hit and it didn't even top the formats it was sent to. AC was popular in the early 90s and as the 90s progressed, less and less ballads topped the charts. That's why acts like Boys II Men flopped 97 onwards as the continued to release ballads as singles instead of getting with the times and incorporating hip hop and uptempos. She needs to do something she has never done and that's an all up tempo album. All of her uptempos have traditionally stayed at the top longer than her ballads as they usually came and went. Her uptempo remixes for [Anytime you need a friend] were gaining traction in the UK but the label didn't support those remixes because they didn't want her seen as a disco diva. I think she could have sold more units of Music Box had the label released more uptempos. Anytime You Need a Friend and Without You are some of her best ballads and they failed to hit #1 but Dreamlover topped the charts for 8 consecutive weeks. (Wednesday 7 August 2024; 02:31) this is a reply to message 107,129

Return to roots (107,129) by Robert-Anthony from United States I am hopeful MC does go back to her roots on MC16. It would be nice for her to have a pop ballad that goes #1 on the Hot 100, is used in a commercial, and wins a Grammy for Song of the Year. If she just gives us that one last raw organic pop performance like If It's Over, then we all would be happy. Who cares about her current vocal state at this point? She can stll sing better than any current female artist right now. (Tuesday 6 August 2024; 23:22)

Portrait Hopeless Child remixes (106,514) by 123 from USA While some of you waste time being negative about remixes projects Mariah has no control over, Ms. Carey has quietly dropped three Portrait remixes. So good. She turned a melancholy ballad into a reflective, optimistic up tempo. Mostly sung in full voice, her buttery mid range cannot be duplicated. She sounds so good. You get new vocals, new lyrics, new backgrounds, different vocal textures minus high belts which aren't missed or needed. She flips the beat a lot at the end of the 16 minute version. I'm super excited to get the official Rainbow Interlude remix in June. So glad Caution finally got a dance remix and she really stuck her foot into these. No cut and paste. So brilliant. "So you can just be free." Just what I needed MC. (Friday 24 May 2024; 14:56)

Article: Mariah Carey recalls feeling the need to "disappear" (106,368) by 123 from USA I feel like she wrote it during the Stella era after the New Year's Eve fiasco. After that situation of being exposed and her vocal talent/ability being questioned I would have wanted to disappear as well. Most people don't know she writes but everyone knows she's famous because of her insane vocal ability. Once her use of pre records got exposed, most people figured it was over for her. I love that we are finally getting more details behind the writing of these songs. It's good to start with Portrait as it's from her most recent album. She's perceived of having everything anyone could ever want. Yet, with all her blessings, she is only human and has had her failures and dark periods in her life. Starting with this song will help humanize her and help spread the word that she is the pen behind the lyrics to all these great songs. (Wednesday 8 May 2024; 19:04) this is a reply to message 106,367

Article: Mariah Carey recalls feeling the need to "disappear" (106,367) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So I'm confused, this episode is about "Portraits" only? But then she talks about TBL and it says she'll explore more songs. Someone break it down for me lol, I'm having a dumb brain day. (Wednesday 8 May 2024; 02:18)

After AI (106,357) by 123 from USA The AI stuff usually sounds horrible but this one really sounds like her. She probably had something to do with the original vocal arrangement on top of writing the song. I didn't really care for it before but with hearing how she might sound on it, I really like it. I hope we get a Rarities 2 where she adds songs she wrote for other artists. (Monday 6 May 2024; 20:27)

Troll (106,219) by 123 from USA Lol at the soap opera reference Robert - lol. Or Jean Grey from the X-Men. Whiny and utterly useless to the team. (Friday 19 April 2024; 04:39) this is a reply to message 106,213

Troll (106,213) by Robert-Anthony from United States RJ., you may be right. Wow, he is just like Sheila on The Bold and the Beautiful. You never know when she may resurface again even after death. (Thursday 18 April 2024; 22:10)

Troll-C (106,218) by 123 from USA A hurt dog will holler. You love that I finally gave you attention. Yup, a troll is what you are. Stay underneath the bridge and away from this community once and for all. You can't sit with us and you don't go here. Troll: a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. Internet trolls. In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word "troll" to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities. (Friday 19 April 2024; 04:37)

Troll (106,212) by 123 from USA Is that troll back under the name C? Please get rid of its new alias. (Thursday 18 April 2024; 21:46)

Mariah Carey style breakdown: a hyperfeminine princess? (106,201) by 123 from USA Mimi L. I saw this video and thought of you. I thought it was a very well put together documentary on her style. (Thursday 18 April 2024; 01:45)

Fatigue/lack of energy (106,199) by 123 from USA Google is our friend. What does bipolar fatigue feel like? Whether it's due to an episode of depression or a side effect of medication, fatigue and loss of energy are common among people with bipolar disorder. You may wake up after a full night of sleep feeling exhausted, and seemingly simple daily tasks become daunting because the fatigue is so intense. What to do when bipolar zaps your energy? bpHope.com (Thursday 18 April 2024; 00:23)

No new album in 2024 (105,855) by 123 from USA I hope she continues to take her time. She said she was rushed into releasing Caution and she didn't get to craft that album exactly how she wanted to. I hope we get an upbeat r&b/doo wop song from her like Dreamlover and It's a Wrap when she dies come back out. I miss those types of lead singles. I'm glad she is jumping on remixes as this gives her added exposure to a younger audience without any risk. Hopefully artists of the moment will want to duet or ask for a feature. If one so happens to become successful, she can follow it up with her own lead single. (Sunday 3 March 2024; 20:29) this is a reply to message 105,853

No new album in 2024 (105,853) by Libra Lamb from USA Who are your sources? I'm just curious where you're getting this info from. I'm hoping the next album doesn't come out until it's properly curated. And I'm glad MC is not on the new Cardi a song, it's ratchet and extra dirty, and that's coming from someone who is not a prude. We just want some new quality music, is that too much too ask for? Evidently it is. (Sunday 3 March 2024; 18:50)

Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,715) by 123 from USA Mimi L, they should have hired you as head of the promo team. I like your ideas. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:27) this is a reply to message 105,686

Similarity between Big Energy Remix and yes, and? (105,686) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Honestly I was thinking the same. In both instances they were together and could have easily done a longer video or at least have a little chat talking about the collaboration and what it means to them. Ariana could have talked about how the collaboration came to be, why they decided on this song. Mariah could have talked about her love for remixes and why she decided to join Ariana on a song that casual listeners wouldn't associate with her usual music. They could have also done small videos of just them playing fun games to promote the video like "who knows who better" or pop culture quizzes (both of them are big pop culture experts). Then they could have released these videos every other day to keep engagement. It's honestly a shame. Mariah posted a small video yesterday promoting singing the chorus. But I'm shocked that Ariana's team dropped the song like it's hot. Like after the first day there was a single mention of the release not even a story. I know she's trying to sell an album but why not simultaneously put spotlight on this song to keep the engagement ? (Friday 23 February 2024; 15:38)

Time of release UK (105,543) by 123 from USA Stacey great minds think alike. I've been listening to MB30 since its release. Mostly to Dreamlover, AILF Extended, Workin Hard Remix, IBTAY Remix. Ifs it's late I listen to My Prayer, Do You Think of Me and all the moody tracks on the second CD and sometimes let the live concert just play. She has been giving us new stuff each year. I'll take some quality unreleased tracks any day from her while we wait for a new album. (Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:07) this is a reply to message 105,460

Time of release UK (105,460) by Stacey from USA As always when new MC music is released, I am hopeful. In the meantime I am loving Music Box all over again. My first song heard was Hero. First album bought was MB. I got the 3CD set in the mail a few days ago. I love what MC wrote about the album. It was released during troublesome times in her personal life. But she also recognizes the album is an important part of her career development, an important part of her life, even if it was during the Tommy years. (Friday 16 February 2024; 04:42)

Yes and, my thoughts (105,459) by 123 from USA If I could thumbs up this post 50 times I would. Keep posting Tevin. (Friday 16 February 2024; 03:16) this is a reply to message 105,450

Yes and, my thoughts (105,450) by Tevin from USA Ok, so like many of you have said on here, when I heard that there will be a new Mariah song released, I was ecstatic, but I also felt a bit conflicted, because I don't like the song Yes, And. I thought about it for a while and now I'm actually happy Mariah is doing this and here's why. 1. She is stepping outside of her comfort zone, like we have been begging for her to do for years (yes this may be a dance or club track like she's done in the past, but let's be honest, she hasn't done it in a long time). 2. She's collaborating with a female singer (one who can do crazy runs, high belts and even whistle, though not up to Mariah's level). Once again we have been asking her to do this. 3. Homewrecker or not, Ariana is still very popular and her music still sells. Once again we have been asking Mariah to work with a popular artist and no has been or up and coming artist. 4. We are finally able to see Mariah (after a very long time), work her magic with redoing a remix. Now if it's just added vocals, then I'll be happy but also disappointed, but by the sound of it, is that this will be a completely reworked song. 5. This introduces Mariah to a younger crowd outside of December. Once again we have been asking her to do this. I can go on, but the point is this, we haven't heard this remix yet, so how can we judge it before we hear it? Though I don't agree with Ariana's actions, we shouldn't criticize a remix we haven't heard yet (the "d" I ride part may not even be in the remix), also let's not be hypocrites, a very young Mariah was also in a similar situation in the past depending on how you look at things (with Tommy being married when he met Mariah). I'm not judging nor pointing fingers and honestly I don't care about what other people do, I'm just trying to make a point. I think Mariah's team is doing a good job. Get the public on your side, blow up on social media, show up to the Grammy's to appease the music academy (or whatever you call it). Start collaborating with young and established artist. Then drop your own fresh new song and possible album (I hope this last one comes true). I think with the success of Big E last year, it showed that Mariah may not be reigning in the charts nowadays, but her name does pull weight and people will tune in to listen if they can connect to the music. Ok rant over. (Thursday 15 February 2024; 21:24)

Independent route? (105,239) by 123 from USA Hi RA. I heard his new single but it was meh. Without a strong single his album is going to flop. Hoping Mariah has some uptempo bangers. I need two uptempos back to back. After the success of Hiss, Meg The Stallion has a distribution deal with universal where she gets to keep 100 of her masters and publishing and is still independent. I would love something like this for MC. (Sunday 4 February 2024; 00:54) this is a reply to message 105,223

Independent route? (105,223) by Robert-Anthony from United States Usher timed his album release around his Superbowl performance. He released his promo single, GLU in early 2023. Then he dropped the official first single, Good Good last summer. This strategy worked for promoting his new album Coming Home. MC needs something similar like headlining a huge outdoor summer concert event along with a summer promo single to garner radio airplay this summer. MC is going to need a radio and Spotify plan to be reintroduce to radio programmers. (Friday 2 February 2024; 18:59)

Independent route? (105,208) by 123 from USA Usher has a new album coming out and is performing at the Super Bowl this year and using the promo of the performance to launch his new project. This will be his first project as an independent artist. I'm wondering if Mariah is contemplating doing the same thing and really taking her time to have several projects ready to go. The only issue is that major radio formats don't always play veteran artists past the age of 5. We will never really know if Caution would have been a hit as Epic only sent her singles to Adult AC and Urban AC radio formats instead of top 40 stations. Those small niche markets are where singles go to die a slow death without any hope of climbing. As an independent artist she can decide the singles and what radio formats she would send them to. Would a top 40 station play a new Mariah song? Maybe if it's uptempo but no present day Mariah ballad or mid tempo will get the time of day with major radio formats. Maybe her team can cut a deal with these stations in exchange for Christmas concert giveaways since her Christmas tours keep getting bigger and bigger. There has to be a way they can leverage her Christmas relevancy and dominance to help launch a new record and get it to chart well. Even at her commercial peak Mariah always got polarizing opinions, but it seems that present day Mariah is getting more love and acceptance than ever before. (Friday 2 February 2024; 04:32)

Best Love Takes Time performance (104,615) by 123 from USA I disagree. Even with the lack of resonant belts and some imperfections, she really went there vocally and took some risks. She started to dive into the other parts of her voice to sing the song. I love all the passion she poured into this performance. One of my favorites. Shakiness and all. Here is the full Love Takes Time performance that night. (Friday 22 December 2023; 15:12) this is a reply to message 104,614

Best Love Takes Time performance (104,614) by Chicago Lamb from USA The NARM Performance is shaky. She's super nervous, trying to add more notes and runs than the studio recording. If any of the NARM footage was great, it would have been used in her "The First Vision" VHS. I don't mind its been locked away but of course appreciate it 33 years later. (Friday 22 December 2023; 14:34)

I Don't Wanna Cry (103,579) by 123 from USA Same. Daydream will always be GOAT to me. I wonder if she found the "Ecstasy" song she made with Jermaine that she was looking for during Rarities. She claimed in an interview she couldn't find it. I'm hoping it's been discovered and is. Daydream session song. She said it sampled a particular song but didn't want to give away the idea. (Tuesday 26 September 2023; 07:03) this is a reply to message 103,570

I Don't Wanna Cry (103,570) by Stacey from USA I get a little giddy thinking about what MC may pull out of the vault for my beloved Daydream's 30th anniversary. (Tuesday 26 September 2023; 00:40)

All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,494) by 123 from USA Here is a video that points out the differences between the two versions. My theory is she found the Rarities version first and put that on Rarities. She found the extended version later and put that on MB30. A second theory is she found both but put the simpler version on Rarities and saved the extended for MB30 so she she had more to give us and help make the repurchase of an old album worth it. Not sure why some fans are complaining on why we got both and should have just got the extended. Honey was said to have 100 different vocal takes Puffy had to chose from. I wouldn't mind getting different Honey vocal takes on B30. I like both versions for different reasons. I prefer the verses from Rarities as she sings them much simpler and sticks to the melody more but I like the climax on the extended better. My version would be a blend of both. Th Rarities verses and the ending vocal climax of the extended. (Friday 15 September 2023; 02:01) this is a reply to message 103,485

All I Live For (103,485) by Andrew from the UK I am convinced it's different recording takes mixed differently to make two different songs. Note All I Live For is "Extended Version" and AYNAF is "Extended Mix". I think Mariah created two different songs from sessions where no song was ever finalised. (Thursday 14 September 2023; 16:56)

Working Hard remix snippet? (103,341) by 123 from USA Here is a second snippet that sounds a or better. This sounds really good. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 17:14) this is a reply to message 103,323

Working Hard remix snippet? (103,323) by 123 from USA Since it's so close to the release date, here is a snippet DJ Terry Hunter played in July at a Chicago House Music Festival in July. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:15)

Disc two (103,340) by 123 from USA Mariah said in an interview that she used everything she was working on for Butterfly. She stated there were no unreleased tracks from that era. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 17:09) this is a reply to message 103,338

Disc two (103,338) by Will from England She could well be waiting for the 30th anniversary to go all out, if there is anything to release. I think her friend on Twitter Liron mentioned that there weren't many/any unreleased or unfinished songs from Butterfly which is why there weren't any songs on Rarities from that era (though I personally doubt it). (Thursday 7 September 2023; 13:20)

Working Hard remix snippet? (103,333) by 123 from USA What's your opinion based on what you heard? (Thursday 7 September 2023; 03:35) this is a reply to message 103,328

Working Hard remix snippet? (103,328) by Robert-Anthony from United States It definitely sounds like the original is a Civilles and Cole production. She has been working in that vault all summer. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 01:14)

Working Hard remix snippet? (103,323) by 123 from USA Since it's so close to the release date, here is a snippet DJ Terry Hunter played in July at a Chicago House Music Festival in July. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:15)

MORE MESSAGES