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Manchester vocals (60,720) by 123 from USA One thing I noticed when she started this tour is that her mid range was silky and clear, but she was avoiding her belting range. Three dates in and she is starting to go for some belts and she's sounding good. And this improvisation I love. If she needs more of anything it's these improvisations or re-arrangements of her songs where it's just her singing where she can let herself go. No I look forward to every TMB intro. I also never heard her sing those notes in HB. Someone in the comments said she is the last of a rare breed. Completely agree. (Tuesday 22 March 2016; 7:42)

Wendy Williams (60,718) by 123 from USA So Wendy up the ante today and gave Mariah her own segment. Wendy just can't help it. I love how they start of with the reality show has become a complete disaster after two weeks. Then go on to say Mariah is making diva demands asking for complete creative control and banning the word "reality show" from being used in her team. Then went on to say she was asking for a script? Saying the producers didn't know she didn't speak on the day of the show so it's become a silent movie. Wendy couldn't contain herself and reveal her wish to secretly be Mariah, "Well if I could sing like Mariah, I wouldn't speak unless I was singing." Then she has a few more slips and shows her fandom "fabulous" of a picture where Mariah is being held by a dancer. All that bashing but she still goes on to say "but see all of that is so entertaining to me that you got a show". She did warn Mariah and said that Stella was no good for Mariah when it was revealed Stella taped a pilot in the past and wants to be a famous herself. So no it's out there that Stella is using Mariah for a come up. Here is the link. (Tuesday 22 March 2016; 6:44)

Re: The 90s (60,688) (60,716) by 123 from USA Webmaster, I like it when you post. It's nice to hear your point of view. Hopefully you will post more. Are you going to see Mariah's show? (Tuesday 22 March 2016; 5:50)

Re: The 90s (60,687) (60,715) by 123 from USA You know you got to someone when their response is name calling. What's wrong? Your paragraphs are getting much smaller. You had so much to say before. I can't back myself up? All of my statements from critics can be found in Google, while all of your statements can only be found in your head. Am I really by myself? Look at all the comments after yours, people are confirming my statements with their own thoughtful responses. You need more people boo boo. It's not me that thinks I know too much, it's you. (Tuesday 22 March 2016; 5:48)

Re: The 90s (60,665) (60,683) by 123 from USA It was used to describe Mariah's use of the word "fervid" in Fourth of July. My interpretation was that the critic was trying to brush Mariah off as someone who was trying to sound smarter than she actually was, which we know is farther from the truth. The most classic, Mariah hating review is the one in Entertainment Weekly of "Heartbreaker". They literally gave the song an "F" rating because they accused Mariah of using the same sample used in Fantasy in Heartbreaker. Had the critic did their homework and read the credits, they would have noticed that Heartbreaker sampled "Attack Of The Name Game" and Fantasy sampled "Genius of Love". (Monday 21 March 2016; 5:27)

Re: Next album title (60,647) (60,680) by 123 from USA Thanks Giovanni. I like your proposal too, but I also think that Songbird would be a better album title and Songbird Supreme would be a better tour name. Kind of like how The Adventures Of Mimi was a proposed album title and instead of letting the idea die, they used it to name the tour. (Monday 21 March 2016; 4:35)

Re: The 90s (60,676) (60,678) by 123 from USA Don't be mad at me because you tried to come for me and I schooled you. The public perception you speak of was Mariah in the 2000's. You obviously weren't around the 90's like I was. While you speak about second hand information, I grew up during that time. I could care less about a Grammy, the Grammy's or all the critics that have hated on Mariah, but everyone knows that all artists revere winning a Grammy because to them, it's the equivalent of winning an Olympic medal. I love how you swiped one of my sentences from my posts (Mariah Carey sold records because of her talent) in your sad, weak, and failed attempt at a clapback. You misunderstood my reflection on how the critics and industry hated on her in the 90's as my own personal opinion. So next time you try to sink your claws into someone because your basic comprehension level failed you into thinking they were dissing Mariah, read the post at least two more times... slowly. You are now the second student to attend my class, but I'm sure you won't be the last. Next time you will think twice before you question the teacher, because your predictable nursery rhyme children's book has just been read. Class dismissed. (Monday 21 March 2016; 3:50)

Re: The 90s (60,645) (60,673) by 123 from USA It's simple comprehension so I'm going to need you to re-read my post before you try to respond to me. Mariah herself has been quoted throughout her career that most people still don't know she writes her own material. And since you missed it, I was referring to the critics, and not my own opinion. Most people on this board got that. In regards to the public, they had a love/hate relationship with Mariah. All of the artists that would site her as an inspiration wouldn't come out until the end of the decade/turn of the century (with the exception of Beyonce who was with DC), not during the 90's. The only time there was real excitement from the general public and not the lambs about a Mariah project was the follow up to TEOM. Its first week sales prove that as Mariah has never been a big first week sales artist, all of her big albums sold over an extended period of time. Lets talk about the music industry next. Awards, really? Is that why she was robbed at the 96's Grammys when she was shut out of all six nominations? The record breaking, blaring from every radio, OSD, wasn't given record of the year or song of the year. No wonder she didn't return until 06 only to be used for promotion, awarded non televised Grammys, and was shut out again from Song of the year and Record of the year. When again, she had another record breaking song of the year. The reason for Mariah's success was the public recognition to her talent. Also, it was the voting public, not the industry that voted for Mariah to top MTV's Greatest Voice in Music. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 19:31)

Re: New album title (60,639) (60,672) by 123 from USA Great minds think alike. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 18:49)

Collabs for the new album (60,644) by 123 from USA I would like Mariah to collaborate with The Internet. The best way to describe their sound is Groove Theory 2016. Songs like: Girl, Partners In Crime Part Three, Something's Missing, Just Sayin/I Tried would give her a fresh new sound. It would perfectly pick up where Miguel and Happy Perez left off. Penthouse Cloud has the type of deep lyrics that I would like Mariah to revisit. A song about all the violence in the world recently. Check them out. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 7:34)

New album title (60,634) by 123 from USA I always wanted a two part album, one called Songbird and the other called Phoenix. If I had my pick, I would like the next album to be called Phoenix, but only if it's full of great songs. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 2:33)

Re: The 90s (60,575) (60,632) by 123 from USA I don't know what 90's you are referring to but Mariah was never considered a serious singer/songwriter. When she came out, she was dismissed as "just another white girl trying to sing black" and was accused of being a Whitney clone. The critics bashed her vocals on Emotions as impressive and not expressive, calling her a showboat. Music Box was bashed for being more MOR and less Aretha and they called her lyrics "cliché". The Butterfly album's lyrics were bashed for Mariah's "10 cent words". Mariah is no longer an up and coming ingénue, she is a legendary music icon. We are currently living in a visual world, whether we agree with it or not, image is key to an artist's appeal. Even Adele has lost weight. It's nice to see positive changes occur for Mariah, even if they are superficial. Mimi L. is a girly girl, a beautiful one at that. She seems to know what she is talking about in areas of fashion, why can't she express her opinion if it pertains to Mariah? Even if you are not into the loss of weight, new hairstyle, costumes, you can always correlate these changes as signs of new music coming soon. I would like to think that Mariah still has some young fans that post on this messageboard. I'm surprised you stuck around because Mariah has been using "dahling" since 1990, like only a regal legendary vocalist would. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 1:54)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey's reality show stalled by diva stylist (60,597) (60,631) by 123 from USA Fire them Mariah as quickly as you fire nannies. Hire Rachel Zoe, she's a ball of stress but she is talented. (Sunday 20 March 2016; 0:45)

Glasgow - Loverboy / When You Believe (60,467) by 123 from USA Is she reading the posts on this message board or what? I've always wanted a Loverboy performance. And she did WYB, someone suggested that didn't they? She looks good too. Is there anyone on the board that went to this show? (Wednesday 16 March 2016; 1:36)

Mariah's World (60,458) by 123 from USA So the name has changed to the show and the premise. There is a new press release and it supposed to chronical the European tour and her wedding plans. Looks like it's only 8 episodes and Mariah's Kardashian shade is in full effect. I refuse to call it a reality show, it is all about getting to know me better and not, as, here I am, getting my nails done. (Tuesday 15 March 2016; 23:13)

Reality show (60,375) by 123 from USA Well this is coming whether I like it or not. I would rather Mariah have her own moments away from her manager and kids, like at the studio. I'd prefer her moments on the show be like taking out that classic rare car to drive only on Sundays because it's so valuable. I was always secretly hoping that she would release all of the video footage of her recording MIAM along with the album, but it never came to be. I would have loved to see when she had all those producers together working on her album (Darkchild, JD, Hit Boy). What were the conversations about? I always looked forward to JD's videos when they would be in the studio because they were so entertaining, you felt like you were there. We never got to see the creative process to avoid intellectual thievery. It would be great to finally see that process. It would help educate the public on how gifted she is. Then they can also highlight her humor and show that the diva she plays is only for the stage. This could make her relevant again to the kids now who didn't grow up listening to her music on the radio. It might bring interest when she releases a new project from another demographic. Hoping it's edited well without too much of Stella's kids or butt kissing to Mariah (you are amazing) by Stella. Stella's response shows she is not ready for prime time. I hope Mariah lets her have it and tell her the Mariah Carey brand doesn't validate rumors with a response. It's the classiest shade I've ever witnessed from anyone. (Saturday 12 March 2016; 3:46)

Still don't know her (60,293) by 123 from USA So JLo says that they've met many times last week on Wendy, but in 2014 she said, "I don't have a feud against her at all," the single-again singer insisted. "I know from back in the day, I've read things that she's said about me that were not the greatest, but we have never met. Like, we don't know each other. I think it's kind of from word of mouth of things that have happened in the past that I'm not really aware of. But I don't know." So you've never met and you don't know each other to you've met many times in a span of one year? Look who seems to be forgetful now? (Wednesday 9 March 2016; 7:16)

Maxwell's new single (60,290) by 123 from USA Should be dropping soon. Since they are both going to perform at Essence this year, I'm throwing my vote in again for them to do a duet together for her new album. Can you imagine Mariah on a track sounding like this one. (Wednesday 9 March 2016; 5:59)

Re: Uturn (60,227) (60,232) by 123 from USA See that is where I disagree. I don't think her last album sounded dated. I think that's why so many of the fans liked it, because she gave everyone a little bit of what they wanted. While we all agree that she definitely should try to venture into new sounds/genres for the next record, I don't want the quality of the music to suffer. The quality of the music wasn't the issue, it has been lack of promotion for those past 8 years once she decided to be a housewife. She definitely had lost her fire during that time so we agree there. Whatever she decides to give us I just hope it's of quality. But for something to take off, she is going to need a lot of promotion. Both from the label (ie Clear Channel deal) and herself showing up at every show doing live performances. She has to have a video and song ready to go at the same time and I'd prefer for the album to be done. So she can properly promote. (Monday 7 March 2016; 4:15)

Re: Uturn (60,211) (60,226) by 123 from USA No offense George, but you are always saying her material is the problem (mainly her rap collabs). Most of us agree that Infinity was a horrible song. But you can't say that about MIAM. The album is full of gems, YDKWTD, Faded, Meteorite, MILG. There were several songs that had #1/top ten potential. The only drawback to that album musically was there was nothing new introduced. Although I would expect that from an album called MIAM, it was more of a retrospect of most of the genres she has covered throughout her career. Promotion was the issue with that album. Regardless of the latest accusations of sabotage (they were label mates for a brief moment on Def Jam), Infinity and the 1 To Infinity album got a good push from the label, and she actually stepped out and promoted the album and performed on several shows. Now that she has more label support and is willing to promote, she needs to bring out really good material. I don't really care for this Kiss Me by Olly Murs. Melodically it sounds just like Jealous from Nick Jonas. I'd rather she work disclosure for a uptempo pop record although pop is a little boring without mixing another genre with it like she has always done. Although, on the top of my wish list is a classic Mariah uptempo a la Dreamlover/ Fantasy/ Heartbreaker/ Loverboy/ #Beautiful. (Sunday 6 March 2016; 20:39)

Alleged track list from Beyoncé’s new album (60,206) by 123 from USA So many topics to reply to but I haven't seen this at all yet. This is the supposed track list of Beyonce's Formation album and Mariah is listed on a track called "Women of the World". The release date is April 1st so I'm skeptical of its authenticity. (Saturday 5 March 2016; 19:09)

2016 Essence festival (60,079) by 123 from USA So I just read that Mariah will be performing at this year's festival. The festival runs from June 30th-July 3rd. Interesting that she keeps booking events without any new music... yet. (Monday 29 February 2016; 3:00)

Re: Rumor (60,054) (60,060) by 123 from USA I like Kiss It Better. It's probably the best song on the album. It sounds like a song that belongs on TLC's CrazySexyCool album. She has several songs on the album that can go number (Love On The Brain and Close To You). The only downfall to the album is it has no uptempos. All mid and like one ballad. You should listen to it. She could have like four #1s from this album. (Saturday 27 February 2016; 22:57)

Wendy Williams (59,984) by 123 from USA "She doesn't have 4 more hits in her soul." If she'd of heard her last album she'd be eating her words. YDKWTD, Faded, Meteorite, MILG. I hope this lights a fire under Mariah and she not only comes out with undeniable music (no more Infinity's), but she sings and promotes the hell out them like she did with the TEOM era. Her live voice is rebounding, she lost the weight, her personal life is on the upswing. Things are lining up for another great era, she just needs to do her part and get out there promote/sing a hot new song. No more of the fast sing/rap style she adopted from Bone, that's hard to execute live (WBT, TMB), an undeniable uptempo is what she needs to perform everywhere. I once read a post on YouTube that "Mariah is always one song away from another big hit". She is the only artist that I feel can do that 25 years into their career. She's only not had a #1 since TMB because she didn't promote and became a housewife, not because the material wasn't good enough, especially those last three albums. (Wednesday 24 February 2016; 6:58)

Number 1's obsessed? (59,983) by 123 from USA What is all this fuss about Rihanna getting another number 1? Is that all Mariah has become to her fans, the artist with the most number 1's? Sure she is marketed that way, I mean, who wouldn't if they currently hold the record, but I thought we all loved her because of her incomparable talent, singing, songwriting, producing songs for us, even 25 years after her debut. That doesn't happen for most artists. Mariah has a bunch of records that she still holds, and there have been several that have already been matched or broken. Adele's Hello matched Dreamlover as the fastest #1 on the Radio Songs chart, Katy Perry beat Mariah's record for most weeks at #1 on the Pop Song Radio Airplay Chart, Lady Gaga matched Mariah's record for most number 1's on the Pop Songs Radio Airplay chart. Does any of this make them any more talented, deserving? No. Most of these artist won't be relevant 25 years in their career. Congrats to Rihanna, her album is pretty good. I a lot of radio friendly songs. Very catchy. I wouldn't count Mariah out, I never thought TEOM would happen and it was like Mariah everywhere, everything, overtaking airwaves in the States. Making and breaking records. It can happen again. (Wednesday 24 February 2016; 5:43)

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