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Respect (42,535)
by 123 from USA
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I do not understand why I have seen so much disrespect from fans to Jermaine during this era. You can voice your opinion without hitting below the belt with disrepecteful comments about someone's financial situation. You question someone's intelligence and publically call them inaquaquite when it's obvious to everyone with intelligence that the silence is intentional and there is something secretly brewing and Mariah is purposely not giving us any information at this point. There is a different strategy that is being used, one that involves secrecy and possibly a surprise factor. What did Mariah do when her album title got leaked without her approval? She changed it and changed the direction of the album. Has anyone been reading that iTunes already has deals with other unnamed artists to do more iTunes exclusives a la Beyonce. I wouldn't be surprised if she has a similar set up with this new project. Mariah has discussed using different methods to release music during the turn of the millenium indicating that the labels are to blame for not embracing new methods of getting music out there when the internet came about. And enough with everyone thinking that Jermaine is a "yes" man and that Mariah would have someone on her team that was taking advantage of her that she wouldn't for a second sniff that out.
(Wednesday 9 April 2014; 5:49)
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Stephen / Jaker20 (42,320)
by 123 from USA
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To me it was a mixture of things of why it pushed back, it wouldn't be fair for me to say it is just ego. From the poor response to the lead single in 2012, to the rushing to get done while trying to promote the rising Beautiful, to the injury that was so close to or may have changed her physically, to the waiting to see what the public response is to a single. She is keeping everything so secretive and I kind of get why, it would be awesome if she cooking up a surprise double album. You don't want a surprise being spoiled that you have been cooking up for 4 years. In my opinion, the CD is coming out May 6, hell or high water, it has already cost the label to much money for producers, studion time, etc to not obtain a return. If this is the last album on IDJ, then it would be in her best interest to have a hit album in order to up the bargaining power on a new contract with the same label or a new one.
(Tuesday 25 March 2014; 5:42)
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Album release / Stephen-Edward / managers (42,283)
by 123 from USA
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Stephen/Edward, I don't agree with your hypothesis. Mariah said on an interview that "people" kept telling her to drop the album and let it do what it does. By "people", I believe she is referring to the label and management. She said she didn't want to do that because it didn't feel complete etc. I believe the reason why it haven't come out yet is because of one thing, ego. Mariah wants a hit, point, blank, period. She wants to be on top and is used to having a song or two charting well before she releases it. Everyone is claiming she shouldn't have friends as managers but JD has done a good job, and no one can make her do what she doesn't want to do. Everyone wants her to phone Benny, but does anyone remember E=MC2? As soon as the album dropped, she disappeared. He was her manager then. Chris Lightly couldn't get her to promote Obsessed or Memoirs, because she decided to promote Precious for Lee and because she felt she had potential Oscar buzz in film which she has always wanted to be successful in. I guess she felt she could flop a few records and always come back she has already made one of the biggest comebacks in history. I just want her to not release anything else until the album is done. I may be alone on this one, but I still want her to promote You're Mine once she is done with the album.
(Saturday 22 March 2014; 2:02)
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Marissa (42,156)
by 123 from USA
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I have to address your posts because they are filled with inaccuracies. Mariah is not insecure towards new singers, however she is annoyed one artist's team is using her name, fame, and incomparable level of talent to describe someone who is supposed to be new. Mariah has praised Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, and Rihanna all who are far more successful than Ariana and who are more of "threat" at breaking Mariah's records, especially Rihanna's string of number ones. Mariah may have access to the whistle register, but she sounds nothing like Minnie, hence the term inspired. Mariah was compared to Whitney in the beginning because they have similar sounding upper belts and Mariah was put with producers Whitney worked with. Once Mariah got more control, her sound had changed from Whitney's. Why would Mariah, like you suggested, make songs like Almost Is Never Enough? She has actually already created the same song in 1993 called Never Forget You. So I ask why would she bother to make the same song she created in 1993? You say she should stop making the same sounding wbt ballads and then in the same breath you want her to re-create a song she did years ago. Play both songs side by side, tell me she wasn't ripped off. Ariana shaded Mariah by not naming her as in inspiration when asked in an interview, yet all of her YouTube videos are Mariah covers. Her producer Harmony Samuels admitted to going for the 90's Mariah sound.
(Sunday 16 March 2014; 19:14)
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Mariah praises originality, not clones (42,078)
by 123 from USA
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I'm tired of people saying that Mariah is immature towards Ariana and that she doesn't embrace younger singers. That is far from true. She stated on idol that Kelly Clarkson was singing her songs better than she did, she has praised Beyonce, Rihanna who have also been inspired by Mariah. The difference between those three and Ariana is they have their own sound and they are not rip offs. Ariana's album was going to be called Daydreaming before they changed it to Yours Truly. Walter A said that Babyface called him asking how to make that Mariah sound for Ariana, which shows on the blatant rip off of "Never Forget You". Listen to "Almost Is Never Enough" side by side and tell me it is not the same melody. One of Ariana’s producers admits to giving Ariana Mariah’s sound in this article. Plus, it was Ariana who dissed Mariah by citing her list of inspirational singers but omitting Mariah (as in this article) when she has YouTube videos singing nothing but Mariah songs. Her manager even went on twitter saying "Ariana Grande Is one of the dopest new female vocalist out right now that chick can sing for real. Yeah I said it.” Here is the article confirming this. So I ask, if her manager is promoting her as the New Mariah, her producers are purposely giving her the Mariah sound, and she is obviously mimicking your style yet leaves out your name in your top influences list, I would be mad too. I’m tired of people saying that Mariah is immature towards Ariana and that she doesn’t embrace younger singers. That is far from true. She stated on idol that Kelly Clarkson was singing her songs better than she did, she has praised Beyonce, Rihanna who have also been inspired by Mariah. The difference between those three and Ariana is they have their own sound and they are not rip offs. Ariana’s album was going to be called Daydreaming before they changed it to Yours Truly. Walter A said that Babyface called him asking how to make that Mariah sound for Ariana, which shows on the blatant rip off of “Never Forget You”. Listen to “Almost Is Never Enough” side by side and tell me it is not the same melody.
(Thursday 13 March 2014; 7:49)
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Diane Martel (41,805)
by 123 from USA
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Yes Carly, she should def work with Diane again. She always did a great job giving Mariah’s videos a plot and made her act out her scenes to where she was actually doing something that prevented her from looking into the camera thus appearing more natural. Of course she made sure she gave her the solo beauty moments as Mariah wouldn’t have it any other way, but she always seemed to have plenty of other footage that helped tell a story. The Roof was brilliant. I also really liked Breakdown, even though the chair routine seemed to slow the video down in the beginning. I enjoyed the choreography. Many people are against it, but her moves were always simple and cute and it prevented her from posing unnecessarily. Debbie Allen has done a great job incorporating Mariah into the choreography, even if it is minimal. I enjoyed the Obsessed choreography, I liked how they lifted her in the air. Choreography is needed in a video, even if it is minimal, so that it gives the artist something to do instead of staring into a camera for 3 minutes while posing unnaturally. It doesn’t have to be dancing, it can be as simple as acting a scene out and directing the artist on how it should be acted out in order to keep the artist from focusing on how they look from whatever angle they are being shot at. It should be the director, not the artist, making sure that the artist’s appearance is still appealing while still coming off as natural as possible. Mariah only changed to shots from Herb Ritts directed video because he made sure that she was still aesthetically pleasing while appearing as natural as possible. I don’t believe she stared at the camera once in that whole video or was even given the chance to pose unnaturally.
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 3:31)
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Label / album situation (41,803)
by 123 from USA
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Even if the label isn't supporting her, as long as they are releasing the singles and ultimately the album, she should go all in on making it a success. Once LA left, the label didn't release anymore of her projects such as the remix album. Mariah even expressed how she was hoping the label would just release one of the remix songs on Memoirs and see what happens. I do not know if anyone else picked up that a label head's name was mentioned during her MTV First interview while promoting You're Mine. To know that a label head is present during promo at a MTV interview is concerning, especially when Mariah stated that he hadn't heard the three new songs that she completed. I always thought that all songs had to be submitted and approved prior to appearing on an album. That leads me to believe that hell or highwater, the album is coming out and both parties will be parting ways. The release of the album has dragged out long enough and I believe both parties are aching to be rid of each other. Why would she release a single if she is still working on the album? It is like Beautiful all over again. She was so busy trying to finish the album that she didn't have time to promote the song, had she, it would have went number 1. It was doing well with the handful of performances she is doing. She needs to stop rushing everything out, even Beautiful felt incomplete and rushed out because they had a good lead single on their hands, but there wasn't even a bridge on that song.
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 3:02)
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It's Like That (41,802)
by 123 from USA
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Mimi L, I love that song. It was a smart move for them to release that song first instead of the boring, yet extremely different, Say Something. Even though it was an uptempo, Mariah turned up the vocals during her ad libs like she was roaring back into radio demanding a hit. The beat was so sparse, that the backgrounds and ad libs really stood out. I love how she didn't let up on the vocal either and rocked out with fat man scoop at the tail end of the song. I also loved that it had a pre-chorus. There was another diva that had a club song out at the same time and I was almost sure people were going to gravitate to that song instead, but I believe that Mariah did a smart choice in releasing a harder edge club banger that matched the Lil Jon/Down South sound that was dominating the airwaves during that era. It was also a different sound for her as she had never released a club banger as a single previously and there was no other song on the radio with that type of vocal performance over a hip hop beat. Regardless of the direction she chooses this go round, whether it be Urban, R&B, Pop, Jazz, or little bit of all of those genres, one thing has to happen, she has to sang her face off. No one else has that voice and if she doesn't capitalize on that, her not so secret weapon, she will blend in with all the other songs on the radio.
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 2:45)
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You're Mine stats (41,801)
by 123 from USA
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So it looks like the song re-entered the iTunes 1000 after yesterday's performance, even with all the bad press and twitter comments. All she needs to do is continue to line up performances at least once a week for the next 6-8 weeks. I tracked Beautiful's chart performance on iTunes like a hawk when it was released and each time she performed the song, regardless of how good or bad it was, it would shoot up the iTunes chart. The same can be done with this song. Not many people know of its existence yet. Common promo, it can still happen.
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 2:35)
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New songs? (41,800)
by 123 from USA
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"I Don't Wanna Stop Loving You" Songwriters: Mariah Carey, Usher Raymond, William Edmund Young "I Got A Man" Songwriters: Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige, William Edmund Young "Love Like This" Songwriters: Mariah Carey, William Edmund Young "Man Of The Hour" Songwriters: Mariah Carey, MVP Sowestbred, William Edmund Young "This Is For Real" Songwriters: Mariah Carey, Tupac Shakur, William Edmund Young So these songs were registered years ago when she started working on this project, I wonder if any of them will land on the new album or be released as extras or unreleased songs. I really like the titles like "Man Of The Hour" and "I Got A Man". It is interesting to see Usher and Mary J listed as songwriters. The Tupac song must sample one of his lyrics. What does everyone else think?
(Thursday 27 February 2014; 2:30)
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Bad press (41,758)
by 123 from USA
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So the bad press is starting again regarding her lipping her BET performance. Ugh. Now I've given up on wanting her to sing live, but singing is supposed to be what she is known for. The casual or even non-fans are starting to get hip to what the lambs have known for years. I really liked the performance and I have no clue as to why she would fly all the way to PR when the video playing in the background of the performance was light years better. She needs to do videos where she is acting something out or using some props but never where she is just staring into the camera as she always looks like she is trying too hard. She needs to get to performing this song like, yesterday, and make sure the performances are good. I hope the learned from the messy Beautiful performances. I like the You're Mine and want it to do well.
(Wednesday 26 February 2014; 8:27)
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Album title (41,465)
by 123 from USA
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I wonder what she is going to call the album now? Does anyone have any suggestions? I read someone say The Dedication. Not bad. She keeps emphasizing the word “Journey” whenever she speaks about the album. Maybe she is contemplating Journey as a possible title or something like it. I was hoping she would release a double album and call one Songbird and the other Phoenix. Like the beginning and the end. What do you all think?
(Wednesday 19 February 2014; 3:42)
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I don't even know what to say, but I will anyway. (41,464)
by 123 from USA
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I’m so confused at all the comments on here stating, these are the reasons why MC’s song isn’t a hit. Did it not just get released to radio today? All the reasons everyone is posting are all reasons that were given before by the media. She’s a diva, she isn’t relatable, her music doesn’t match the current format, her voice isn’t the same, she’s too old, how she dresses, and the rest of the reasons you all gave. Once Glitter happened, this is what was said. Then she took a long time away, longer then any other time in between albums and TEOM was released. It also was pushed back. Mariah said Almost Home was a separate project from the album so that doesn’t count. Triumphant was the learning experience. She released a lazy, uninspired lead single and the results showed that people weren’t having it. So she backed up and re-worked it. When has she ever charted high on iTunes? Until Beautiful, I hadn’t seen her chart that well there, so why should we care now? She is working the radio circuit which is what she needs to do to gain radio support. She is humble enough to know that without radio support, the song goes nowhere. She is playing the game and creating a relationship with these stations by either calling in or showing up for an interview to promote her record and hopefully convince the station to play her song. You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. Besides, Beautiful didn’t start moving on iTunes until she started performing the song anyway.
(Wednesday 19 February 2014; 3:40)
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My own 2 cents (41,401)
by 123 from USA
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People talking about Mariah just making music and not caring about the charts is off base. When you have a record contract, you have to care. Now I firmly believe that her last two albums weren’t a success because of two reasons: lack of promo and poor single choices. For the first time in her life, she chose her personal life over her career, and I’m ok with that. She has had enough time to enjoy her personal life with her marriage and birth of her twins and I believe she is finally ready to come back. She is coming back hard with the promo and a great song. I firmly believe that her career now has her full attention. Now, is she expecting everything to go number 1? No. However I also believe that she has an album full of great songs that have potential to go number 1. Obsessed didn’t do so well at first but it eventually went on to chart at number 7 with little promo and Beautiful charted at number 15 even with the discombobulated promo and so so performances. If you like the song, support and lets just wait to see what happens. Heck, if people have creative ideas, post them, you never know.
(Monday 17 February 2014; 1:04)
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Too early to tell / give credit when due (41,399)
by 123 from USA
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Are fans really calling You're Mine a flop already? She just released it and has been promoting non-stop since its release. I see people saying she needs to promote more. This woman has been everywhere, calling in radio stations, wedding ceremonies, video countdown shows, all except go around and kiss babies at this point. We have yet to see what else they have planned for the song. JD has been doing a great job getting her back out there and staying out of the way which is commendable. iTunes is not the end all be all. Have people forgotten that Vevo streams count towards chart positions? Both the original and remix audio were available the same day of release and both videos within a couple days of each other. All on Vevo. I assume they are getting streams first and then will proceed with strategically placed performances right before it officially goes out to radio. Why are people saying this song is boring? It is the best song out of the bunch so far, and you don’t release an uptempo in the middle of winter, you save those for the spring/summer. Can we also let the song to grow and the promotion to continue? Just because it doesn’t shoot to number 1 its first week doesn’t mean anything. This song is a hit song, mark my words. For those saying that she won’t reach the top like she did in the 90’s, did they forget the record breaking WBT and TEOM? She was bigger then than in the 90s.
(Monday 17 February 2014; 0:52)
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This era (41,277)
by 123 from USA
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I believe M is off to an awesome start with this new single. A promo video right before the release of the single and the BET performance. She dropped the single, its remix, and video all on the same day and went on a slew of interviews. Today she did more and tomorrow we get the dance remixes and the remix video. The timing couldn’t be more perfect for a ballad when it’s cold outside during Valentines. She seems to have fixed most of the mistakes made for the release of Beautiful. Clueey, she must have read your message about the Mabach and decided to do one better and light up the Empire State Building. She also finally dropped a great solo song that is classic, yet current, with a great vocal climax. The only somewhat gripe is the video, and her alcohol consumption during interviews, which may be causing her to lack the ability to have a conversation with the interviewer. She seems better in interviews during press day # 2. Since the board seems to be unanimous about this issue, I ask everyone to pray for her. You never know what someone might be going through, regardless of their success, money, and team of employees. The people around her in 2001 weren’t looking out for her best interest, so we can start by praying for her and wishing her good health, happiness, and success with the new record. I just want to thank her for the effort she has put forth this go round. We complained and for the most part, she has delivered.
(Friday 14 February 2014; 8:41)
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You're Mine cover (41,205)
by 123 from USA
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This song is really taking off. There is already a cover by a brilliant up and coming artist. Please listen to the following video. Durand puts his own spin on the song while including Mariah's legendary whistle register. He takes is to a sexy place. I hope Mariah hears it and re-does a version like this.
(Thursday 13 February 2014; 6:49)
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New single (41,135)
by 123 from USA
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So what time exactly will the new single be ready for purchase?
(Wednesday 12 February 2014; 3:00)
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You're Mine (41,061)
by 123 from USA
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So I just heard the leaked version. This is what I have been waiting for. It’s a perfect merge of Mariah/Mimi. She needed to come hard with a ballad for Valentine’s and this song is Mariah at her best. The lyrics are brill, the melody is chill and catchy and the vocal performance at the end reminds you why she is Mariah Carey. For those who thought she couldn’t do it again, she is back. This song shows the perfect mix of a mature sound, artistic growth, while still creating a song that radio will eat up and become an instant hit. This will be a number 1 record, mark my words. The Art Of Letting Go was a throw away to hold us over, this is the real single and it delivers.
(Monday 10 February 2014; 4:19)
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Mariah Daily Journal (41,059)
by 123 from USA
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That's too bad that the site is shutting down. I liked how they had all of the magazine interviews housed in their database where I can go back and reminisce or learn something new or back up something I knew she said before. They used to have a comments section and I feel like I was partially to blame for the removal of it. There was several fans on that board who bashed anything urban she did and wondered why she was trying to be "so ghetto" and who also had some insulting things to say about Nick or blamed him for anything. I always defended him because, her personal life should be off limits and I believe that as her husband and father of her children, people should respect him. Especially because he seems too genuinely, love her. This "touchmybody" character who just waited for me to post only to attack me and provoke a response. Then there was this "Avila" character who loved to argue with me and would always respond to my post with some snide counter argument. When Oh Santa came out, I was attacked by both of them because I didn't like the song and they demanded that I love everything she releases. After that ordeal, the comments section was closed. So when I discovered this site, I was so happy that I could interact with other fans that I promised to avoid confrontation and just try to turn the other cheek if someone came at me, and start to curb what I say.
(Monday 10 February 2014; 4:15)
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Enwar00 (41,012)
by 123 from USA
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I don't know much of anything in the city. I just moved here not too long ago for a job and to escape the trappings of Boreville USA. Lol. I love Paperboy. I'm a 90's hip/hop and R&B head. If you went Sunday night, then yes, that was in fact Valentine's day. I went that same night. She was like super late, more than usual. She was in really good spirits when she was talking to the audience during the first half of the show. She left so abruptly, and my friend who got us the tickets is like, she will come back out to do an encore, she always does an encore. I'm like, she barely looked back, she is not coming back out. All of a sudden the stage lights went out and the audience was confused and didn't know that the show was over. Lol. I didn't get a chance to get a tour book, it looked better than The Adventures Of Mimi one, I went to that show too. I don't know too many people here so we should hang out, especially since the new MC project is coming. It would be cool to discuss. My email address is JoseJRodriguez1112@yahoo.com.
(Saturday 8 February 2014; 22:37)
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Promotion / album / Christopher (40,982)
by 123 from USA
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Christopher, don't fret. News is starting to trickle in on Mariah's plans. She is supposed to be on the View next Wednesday to promote her new single Be Mine. I'm assuming they either changed the name or changed it slightly on the press release like they did Beautiful on Showbiz by calling it Gorgeous. I heard about this song way back in 2012 as the follow up to Triumphant called "You're Mine". That would be perfect for V-Day I know it isn't like her to stay quiet but I believe she really wants her album to be a surprise to the fans and release the plans right when she drops it. I was getting worried as well but just kept my trust that she is brewing something good and is just keeping the info under wraps to take advantage of the surprise factor. Clueey23, you just might get your Maybach moment. Lol.
(Friday 7 February 2014; 5:39)
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Obsessed/Enwar00 (40,938)
by 123 from USA
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I remember when I heard the song one of my friends was like, "She will never do it, but wouldn't it be cool if she did a Bianca/Mariah bit again, but this time, she would be dressed up as M&M instead of Bianca." Then the video came out. It seemed kind of rushed, like they didn't have much time to make it. I'm used to bigger productions from Brett. They could have had a funny fight scene. If there was any more Chicago fans on this board we could put one together. If you want to meet up we can start small. Lol. What clubs do you go to where they actually play Mariah? I have never heard Loverboy anywhere. The last time I heard Mariah at a club was like, two years ago, they played the Fantasy remix. I rushed to the dance floor. Did you go to her Valentine's Day concert when she came for her Angel's Advocate Tour? It was interesting to say the least.
(Monday 3 February 2014; 5:28)
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Mimi L (40,937)
by 123 from USA
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It is hilarious that you are getting a thumbs down, but most people don't like to live in peace and love to watch drama unfold. That's why reality shows are so popular these days. Yes the Madonna line was classic, and then when she changed her image and people starting ragging on her saying she went wild she responded with, there are people out there that are a little more extreme, especially some of these "singers". She always knew how to throw an underhanded jab. I guess that is why I love "Did I Do That?" It was probably her first diss record to a past relationship. For those that don't like that song, you have to get past the beat and listen/read the lyrics. I also really like "Clown", she should have released that as well as "You Know You Got Me". Charmbracelet would have blown up.
(Monday 3 February 2014; 5:14)
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Obsessed (40,915)
by 123 from USA
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I'm a guy and I love this song. When I heard it I thought, what! Mariah snapped! From the clever play on words (MC to MC, when you need an MC), to the slick talkin lyrics, and the super hard beat. I loved how they started mimicking a Dre production by playing the heavy keys at the 3:30 mark of the song. The icing of the cake was "you're all up in my George Foreman (grill)". For someone who most people brush off as pop fluff to pull off such a hot dis record, no other female in the game could have pulled off this song. Especially not someone who started off singing soul ballads. This song shows off her versatility as a singer/songwriter/artist. If anyone else would have attempted this, it would have come off cheesy.
(Saturday 1 February 2014; 5:44)
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