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About jaker20 from US: You Will Never Be MC

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,412) by jaker20 from US
Yes and then you went into a litany of what she and her label is doing. You literally posted that on Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51. Lol. I'm sorry I just think you're funny. Ok I'll stop now.
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:28)
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,403) by jaker20 from US
I need Wham's Last Christmas to go no.1 at some point too. Michael deserves it.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:29)
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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,402) by jaker20 from US
"Brenda didn't write RATCT, she basically doesn't profit much from it."

"Who has been boycotting that frail old lady Brenda for four years now?"

Then its entire possible that she's over this and these aren't fully her doing. Business people are profiting off of her. Aka labels and industry people.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:24)
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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,400) by jaker20 from US
I think you need to calm down. Now you're backpedaling again lol. You said the music industry don't have a say, then you say they kind of do. lol. Come out and be real now.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:07)
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Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,396) by jaker20 from US
I'm thinking Mariah walking on the streets of Paris like that Say Somethin' video but less sexy. But Mariah's Christmas image is festive so I don't know if she'll be up for it. But look at Last Christmas, which is a sad song.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 19:51)
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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,395) by jaker20 from US
Pedro's post isn't paranoia, is it actually true. I'm not sure you fulling understand how it works. A few days ago, you said labels have no control, and I explained to you how that is not true.

Labels can influence placement on playlists through Discovery Mode. It is a feature for artists which is some kind of digital payola, where labels received reduced royalty in exchange for prioritized placement. It is not pay by play, but if you understand algorithms, it is very effective.

The placement of a song in a playlist with millions of users is very consequential. Im not sure why you're comparing it to you playlist lol. They are not the same. Regular users normally plays a playlist pushed to them by the app, and then stop at a certain point. So makes a massive difference.

So the past few weeks, Mariah has not been added on some of the biggest curated playlists, until recently. Brenda's song has been on playlists mentioned below that often doesn't even have to do with Christmas. And that already works against Mariah in terms of boost from algorithms. It has a slower headstart.

Like I said, Brenda's team has been aggressive this year and we give them that credit. Mariah's hasn't, probably they felt they didn't need it which I think is a mistake.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 19:02)
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Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,387) by jaker20 from US
It gives me the feels the classic feels. I think this song deserves a proper video. One that has a story, similar to Wham's Last Christmas. Same with "When Christmas Comes". Both are original MC Christmas songs too.
(Monday 4 December 2023; 06:02)
We lost the #1 (104,371) by jaker20 from US
Spotify US has around 45M users, while Apple has around 30. There's also a tiered system in Billboard where ad supported streams are counted, even though they are given lesser points, but Spotify ad supported subs is more than double their paid subscribers. That's been the case for many years now.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:19)
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366) by jaker20 from US
What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46)
We lost the #1 (104,365) by jaker20 from US
I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.

Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,344) by jaker20 from US
I'm responding to your post about you saying "the music industry does not have much control over anything anymore" which is incorrect. And everything you explained contradicted yourself.

(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:51)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US
Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right.

Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond.

I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it.

But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake.

As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17)
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,336) by jaker20 from US
Um Spotify has its own version of digital payola, with reduced royalties for some kind algorithmic boost via playlists. And Brenda's team have been very aggressive this year, having multiple versions included in playlists and having it strangest playlists like pop and teen playlists. These are Spotify curated playlists.
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:15)
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Would you rather (104,290) by jaker20 from US
Brand new album. That is how she stays relevant. Even if it's not a blockbuster hit, a good album is a good album, and it eventually reaches new fans. That is what happened to Caution, its impact was slow burn.

And in my opinion, it set the stage for the smashing return of AIWFCIY in 2018/2019. She needs to go back to releasing albums. That's her starter pack for the new gen to her classics.
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:47)
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Who is Jack Harlow? (104,251) by jaker20 from US
He also had a big no.1 hit last year with First Class which heavily samples Glamorous by Fergie, who imo, like Mariah in BE got screwed over and due to a bunch of technicalities did not get credited.
(Monday 27 November 2023; 21:31)
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Amy Grant album Heart In Motion (104,250) by jaker20 from US
What a great album. All the while I was thinking, maybe this is the direction that Mariah should take? Midtempo songs that are pop but have a classic sound to them. Light bops and not too serious, it reminds me of a bunch of pop songs that all sounds like Always Be My Baby.
(Monday 27 November 2023; 21:26)
AIWFCIY (104,249) by jaker20 from US
Is now 50th biggest hit ever in BB charts. It will continue to climb in the next couple of weeks and enter top 40, becoming MC's 3rd in the chart, after OSD and WBT. By the end of this season it could be the 15th biggest hit ever, surpassing The Beatles' Hey Jude. Needless to say, next year will be big huge year for Mariah, with the MC album's 30th anniversary.
(Monday 27 November 2023; 20:59)
Mariah now most streamed female on Apple Music (104,208) by jaker20 from US
This is why she will never give up on Christmas. It rubs off on her entire catalog.
(Friday 24 November 2023; 18:00)
View from here (104,195) by jaker20 from US
It was a very noticeable shift. Immediately right after the TMB video, she was completely different in how she carries herself. Like I said, that video is probably the last time that we've seen Mariah move as much. So clearly whatever it is that caused her being stiff happened immediately after that.
(Friday 24 November 2023; 02:25)
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Stiffness (104,194) by jaker20 from US
And I am entitled to call you out and exposing you for what you really are, and what I have seen you posting around here, posting, unprovoked anti-LGBTQ comments, purely for the intention of maligning the community. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(Friday 24 November 2023; 01:53)
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Stiffness (104,188) by jaker20 from US
Over-sensitive alphabet people? Why bring unnecessarily shady and passive aggressiveness here. This is now the 3rd time I've read these microaggressions in a few weeks and it's just so sickening. I'll leave it to the mod if you want to post this reply but for a fanbase that's heavy on LGBTQs this sure is lacking tolerance.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:29)
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Justice for Can't Let Go (104,185) by jaker20 from US
What a beautiful song. The lyrics and the beats sounds timeless. And I love her hair in the video.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:28)
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View from here (104,184) by jaker20 from US
Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye.

She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor.

Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16)
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Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,154) by jaker20 from US
20 songs in the chart, and then disappear the following week. Mariah should do something big next year during the album's 30th anniversary and have every song chart.

Anyway, Brenda could take it this year. Mariah will probably do something big next year, so if she gets a couple of weeks this year, she'll probably take the record back next year. But she should do a good festive video every 2 years anyway, since that is all she is doing now.
(Tuesday 21 November 2023; 17:49)
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Tour outfits (104,153) by jaker20 from US
I do like that head crown but Beyonce and a few other artists already did it so it has less of an impact. It should have been like halo stars instead so it's slightly different. Mariah needs to find something that is unique to her since she is doing this every year.
(Tuesday 21 November 2023; 17:37)

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