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About jaker20 from US:
You Will Never Be MC
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Branding/brand deals (108,321)
by jaker20 from US
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A little late on this, but I always wondered why Mariah didn't have a skin care line. She has the best skin ever. It's flawless actually. She should have launched it around 2005 immediately after TEOM when her music was everywhere, and it would have been the biggest skin care line ever. At that time, her videos were everywhere, and would have served as a great commercial for her products.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 06:51)
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Branding/brand deals (108,255)
by Norman from USA
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To piggyback on the RA, Randy, and Will discussion: Does anyone have any brands they think would be a realistic fit for Mariah to pursue? She doesn't have a proven track record with anything per se, but I don't think it means there isn't anything out there for her.
Also, I'm not sure what her personal branding is anymore. She's being herself which is fantastic, but it's still a business and there should be something to point to outside of Christmas. Staying "booked and busy" is obviously every artist wishes to have, but I would wager something more elevated is needed for her caliber celebrity. More elevated but still accessible, you know?
I think Randy is right about the make-up and perfume routes being saturated. And as much as I like the Black Irish, no one goes out on the town drinking that like vodka and tequila.
I initially thought of shoes, but then remembered the stint on HSN with the clothing and shoes. I'd suggest a brand deal over her own line. Maybe a Louboutin or Jimmy Choo heel named after her, something she wears in a high concept music video (remember those? I'm aging myself). Something like that but fresher and less on the nose than what I just described.
Thoughts? Hey, what about golf clubs for laughs?
(Monday 24 February 2025; 00:49)
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Mariah doesn't need no man (108,198)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah doesn't need a man but she needs someone. With Tanaka and her mom gone, and estranged families, she's alone. She's been better when she's with someone, than alone. I think her calling all the shots in late 90s led to her breakdown. She's carrying a music empire and legacy, and no one person can carry that without taking its toll. Sadly, Mariah is not a very disciplined person. Whether it's being active, food, mental and physical health, getting inspired, she's doing best when someone is pushing her. Now she's just surrounded by people who push her for their own benefits. She needs people who push her because they're real partners and they're real.
I wonder if reconnecting with Walter A would be good for her. They inspire each other, and they make a great team. Their creative juices flow is organic. It's non-romantic, which sometimes is the best partner in life, keeps her inspire and her mind active. And at her age, that is hard to find. Bless her.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 18:23)
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Mariah doesn't need no man (108,188)
by Jamie from UK
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I think she needs to reevaluate her situation, while she isn't broke she obviously isn't getting as much income as before. She's created this whole diva persona and whilst it worked once I don't feel it benefits her anymore. She should reduce expenditures and just focus on herself and kids. She doesn't need to live such an extravagant lifestyle especially with reports that it costs 30 thousand plus just for her to leave the house. I think the whole diva thing is part of the problem, she's lost who she really is. She seemed more together after she had her initial breakdown than she does now. Now it feels like she's lost her personality too.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 12:15)
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Voice (108,197)
by jaker20 from US
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I agree. That's why she needed someone, I don't know, a man, a partner, a strict manager, etc.
Beyonce has JayZ, for all his imperfections, she's got a musical and business partner, and they're in it together. Taylor has her parents who are expect business people. Mariah is literally alone, and being a single mother of 2 is no joke. And then surrounded by yes people, and they all want their rents paid for, but little about Mariah's well-being. Bless her.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 18:12)
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Voice (108,190)
by Brandon from USA
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Lack of discipline has always been one of Mariah's biggest weaknesses. After Tommy, MC's focus shifted to wanting everything to be about fun and partying. Investing in the preservation of her voice and commanding a stage like Whitney or Celine, strong performers, was no longer important. Every "moment" had to be about fun at the expense of her voice. She became comfortable stepping on stage with minimal to zero rehearsal, using back up tracks to compensate for lack of properly resting and preparing her voice for the stage because it's boring and "bleak". Vocal rest is no longer her antidote to neglecting her voice. Unfortunately we now see what happens when an artist neglects their talent.
All is not lost though. It's time to refocus and get disciplined and come back stronger. We know uou can do it MC.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 14:45)
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Voice (108,196)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't think it's just Tanaka. If anything, I think Tanaka was a casualty of Mariah's changed health, either mental or physical, or both.
I would say the obvious sharp decline was early 2021. If you watch MC's Magical Christmas Special, which was Christmas of 2020, she was still very animated and seem to be in on the actual production. And then just a few months later, it was a sharp decline. It was noticeable on the walk and how she talks. A lot of lambs were in denial since then. I'm one of them.
Someone here posted back then that Mariah might have had a serious health scare, but just was not reported. I don't think so. But after the reports of Celine last year, Jamie Foxx, Brian May, and others post covid era, I think Mariah should focus on her and get herself cared for, because she's only got herself now. She was never as active like Madonna or Janet and that eventually will show in middle age.
Sometimes I wish she's still with Tanaka though. With all of his imperfections, he seemed to make her happy. Bless her.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 18:08)
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Voice (108,193)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah's lipping is so obvious now, and people are going in on her in the YouTube comments. She really needs to step back from touring and work with a vocal coach. Like Terna said, it's going to take serious discipline to get her voice back in shape. She should stop touring until Christmas.
It kind of feels like we're watching a different version of what happened with Whitney. Mariah fought so hard to stay true to herself, but now she's almost trapped in this diva persona. She used to talk about wanting the street cred that Mary J. Blige had, she started being raw and unapologetic. But now? It's like she's just withdrawn into this shell.
It's true that Tanaka seemed to have been a source of joy and normalcy in her life.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 16:30)
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Mariah Carey fans wonder if singer is "OK" (108,195)
by jaker20 from US
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Yeah, sadly its starting to go mainstreame. I don't even understand why she's in Vegas again but without any new material. Is she short on cash?
She is giving zero effort, and honestly if she doesn't get it together, it's going to lead to brain rot, if she isn't there already. Madonna and Janet are still extremely active.
Forget albums, Mariah can't even walk anymore by herself.
(Wednesday 12 February 2025; 17:58)
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Rainbow 25th anniversary was a great release (108,163)
by jaker20 from US
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It has a lot of new gems in it. The extended Rainbow's End is one of the best remixes of last year, and I think it will slowly be a classic. If only Mariah put the same effort on Daydream, TEOM, MC OG this year.
(Monday 10 February 2025; 18:09)
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Frustrated lamb (108,162)
by jaker20 from US
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That's how her career is right now: like she doesn't know what's going on or she doesn't care. When she performed With You a couple of years ago, it was at least a production. She times the chorus of the songs with the movement of the feathers, she walks where the dancer are in focus, etc etc. It was not dance choreo, but there was some production there and she's involved.
Now she just walks out and let the dancers do their thing. To me that's a sign that she's not involved anymore. The production and dancers are do their thing and she's given some cues while she's maybe watching TV somewhere or baking.
The lack of effort is reflection of her career right now. No effort, no releases. And from what we've seen, even walking is a huge effort for her. So maybe not even a phone call to collaborators because that's time consuming for her to dial the phone. Just none.
(Monday 10 February 2025; 18:04)
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Frustrated lamb (108,151)
by Brandon from USA
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The most recent clips from the 2025 shows are cringeworthy. In one clip, she was "singing" ILT and there was literally no expression on her face, no energy or anything. In another clip she's singing Fantasy and looks lost as though she's been told to follow the dancer around the stage. She's looking around like she has no idea what's going on in that moment. The comments on the videos were in shambles. MC can only keep this up for so long until mainstream media starts asking questions and she's forced to address it or stop performing until she gets herself together. Does no one on her team ever watch her performances back and see that something is wrong? This era is so frustrating as a lamb.
(Sunday 9 February 2025; 20:38)
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Frustrated lamb (108,161)
by jaker20 from US
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Well in fairness, it's not like Trey himself is in the same level as when I'll Be There was released. Mariah's circle of collaborators is so small and the same people from 30 years ago and they're all in it together.
And that's a downside of it. Because that also means she's not working with new talents, and getting inspired, she's not creating anymore. And her constantly hopping on to Vegas with no new material makes it worse.
She have the holiday season where she's basically doing the same thing over and over. She got the Queen of Christmas label, which she does nothing about. If that's another artist, they would grab it and release a new Christmas album every year, or release a music video of an old Christmas song, or release a new collab every year, and she can't even do any of that.
She's not even doing any new "act" or productions. Remember Bette Midler's shows? It's a show, there's an act each time she's on stage. Either getting into a basic choreo, or character, or creating a world of make believe on stage.
Some artists collaborate when they're blocked, or they remix some of their old songs, they reinvent their materials. Cher turned into a club goddess late in her career and it became her biggest hit.
Mariah meanwhile, she is not writing, she's not making new songs, she's not collaborating, she doesn't get into her show's act. She just walks out on stage and does her same old same old. Nothing new. She's just going through the motions right now.
She actually looks completely bored. I would be too if I'm doing the same tired thing over and over for the last 30 years. It's all about waiting for December and see how the Billboard charts will look for her, nothing else.
(Monday 10 February 2025; 17:53)
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Frustrated lamb (108,159)
by Jamie from UK
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Problem with these stars are that all those around them are on the payroll and don't care as long as they are getting paid. I saw one clip of I'll Be There with Trey, his face was a picture trying to look unaffected by Mariah's lackluster vocals. You'd think he would be able to say something as they go so far back. But I guess he also doesn't want to upset the cash flow.
(Monday 10 February 2025; 09:38)
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Barbra and Mariah (108,135)
by jaker20 from US
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Barbra: 36 studio albums, 12 compilations, and 15 soundtracks
Mariah: 15 studio albums, 6 compilations. 0 soundtracks
Do you see where I'm going here? 2 years later, the album she's saying already have 5 songs done, and she still can't finish it. And now Barbra, who is 82 is releasing another album, while Mariah is doing Vegas with no new song, not even a collab, a remix, or anything.
It is so annoying that every single year, after very Christmas peaks, she can't come up with something, anything. Annoying and sad really. Forget voice or anything, I don't think she's got artistry left anymore tbh. Voice can be layered, remixed and be done with studio work. Artistry you can't, that's really what's she's lost.
(Friday 7 February 2025; 23:10)
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Ed Sheeran (107,863)
by jaker20 from US
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Or maybe someone with a similar folksy sound. I always thought Always Be My Baby have that vibe.
(Thursday 26 December 2024; 01:59)
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Ed Sheeran (107,859)
by Bobby A from United States
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I agree wholeheartedly, but he is not as popular like he was in 2017-2021.
(Wednesday 25 December 2024; 23:02)
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Last Christmas (107,862)
by jaker20 from US
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I think that's partly driven by this year being LC's 40th anniversary with various vinyl releases, documentary, etc, Columbia pulling all the stops this year. Its the same with RACTC 65th anniversary promo last year resulting to it reaching number one. And then this year Brenda is not even competitive.
(Thursday 26 December 2024; 01:57)
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Last Christmas (107,858)
by Edward from USA
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"Last Christmas" (24.55M) trailed "All I Want For Christmas Is You" (24.86M) by just over 1% in Spotify streams on Christmas Eve.
I think "Last Christmas" will eventually be a number one. Hopefully, it happens after Lil Nas X hands the torch back to Mariah, he's been holding it up high for quite a few years now.
(Wednesday 25 December 2024; 23:00)
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Merry Christmas 3 (107,861)
by jaker20 from US
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I think Mariah is more likely to make another Christmas album than any genre. At least that's what I get from her recent interviews. She sounds passionate about it and recently said that she's planning to record another classic Christmas song. Or maybe its just her feeling the season.
Her Christmas catalog is turning out to be a monster success, maybe she wants to capture this moment. And with the current state of pop music being disposable, the timing for another Christmas album would be perfect for her. But that also means many disappoint longtime lambs. But that's where we are right now.
Merry Christmas.
(Thursday 26 December 2024; 00:58)
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Article: Mariah and Anderson .Paak seen holding hands in Aspen (107,855)
by jaker20 from US
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I feel like Ed Sheeran would complement Mariah's current voice more, they would blend a lot better with her current voice, and that would open a lot of potential collabs for her, pop with a blend of R&B but with 70s vibe is what I'm thinking.
(Wednesday 25 December 2024; 20:25)
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Article: Mariah and Anderson .Paak seen holding hands in Aspen (107,853)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Do we really want Mariah X Bruno though? I mean don't get me wrong, I think Bruno is very talented and they'd complement each other vocally, but Mariah literally publicly shouted out Bruno and asked for a collab and he never responded. Leaving our queen on seen.
(Wednesday 25 December 2024; 17:51)
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Passion again (107,824)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah's career has turned out to be quite unique. It's incomparable and insane actually, if you think about it. Even The Beatles didn't get this kind of career re-peak.
Mariah's non-Christmas tour this year ended up being the highest grossing R&B female tour, and then she had to prepare for her back to back international stadiums for China and Rio, so by Christmas season, she's already done so much. Then she got sick and skipped 2 sold out Christmas shows. She burned out.
That's not what you'd think someone of Mariah's caliber would be doing in this stage of her career. I don't think she imagined her Christmas legacy would turn out like this, it's bringing in new lambs, and it's going to challenge the success she built in the past, because it gets bigger and bigger every year. It's a very attractive turn of events for her.
So is there space for a new album? Lets see: She probably start planning for Christmas by [September] if not earlier. This year, she announced it around [August], probably start putting together the team then.
So now this is something she will do every single year. Maybe she'll change it up by doing a few international Christmas dates. They been sending that message to her for years.
And with the success of China and Rio this year, I can imagine she'll be doing that again a few times over.
So she really only have a few months in a year for an album, and unless she is willing to commit at least 4-6 months to it, she won't release it. And I don't see her doing that. It's not a priority for her. If she does, it's likely an album or remixes, and even then she probably will hardly promote it.
(Monday 23 December 2024; 03:11)
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Passion on albums, or lack thereof (107,823)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm puzzled why she's not lining up a banger immediately after Christmas when awareness is very high. She said last year that she's had 5 songs ready. So why is she not able to complete it?
All she needs is one solid banger, or a collab. But she does not seem to have any interest in it, which is very puzzling.
On her recent interview, it seems like she does not care. It sounds like she is getting all her life from Christmas catalog. And I understand, what a fantastic catalog it is. It brought her success into insane stratosphere levels.
But its becoming clear that is losing her artist side. When really, all it takes is one song. Just one good song to carry an entire album.
Very few artists want to invest in real albums anymore. It's good for newcomers to establish their names. But in the streaming era, it seems albums are so disposable. Artists put effort in full tracks and it takes a button press to skip.
Even established names don't seem to care about albums. Beyonce abandoned hers, Ariana just recently said no new music anytime soon even after a successful album this year. Even Taylor's album has 26 or so songs, is that even an album anymore or just to gain streaming count. Adele said no new music anytime soon.
I think Mariah is scared to release an album that will fail. I hope she just focus on 1. That's what Cher's Believe did. What a song it was and it carried an entire album. Otherwise, I don't really think she'll put effort into finishing one.
(Monday 23 December 2024; 02:57)
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Why WBT again? (107,482)
by jaker20 from US
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I wish she had done a deeper cut from TEOM, that would make the gp think in its 20th anniversary that the album is a timeless classic full of bops.
With that being said, it's amazing to see the new gen really feeling it. WB is a timeless pop song. It's amazing that it was created fairly quickly. She also looks great, which I think is part of the song's visuals.
Which makes me think that maybe her "Believe" is just around the corner, and with the right song, it's going to come out of nowhere with a bang like Cher did.
(Wednesday 9 October 2024; 01:02)
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DFAU (107,443)
by jaker20 from US
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This reminds me of Toni Braxton's remix performance of Unbreak My Heart remix, and also Mariah's own My All version at Diva's Live where she switched the end from ballad to upbeat, dance remix. That's what she should do with DFAU. Lambs don't seem to consider this song as one of her best, but I personally love it. But I would love a good twist.
(Wednesday 2 October 2024; 22:45)
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DFAU (107,441)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So basically she did a mashup of the original with the Morales remix. Like she does a mash up for WBT with WBT desert storm remix during some performances. You can find the mashed up version on her Spotify, under the My All EP.
(Wednesday 2 October 2024; 04:07)
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Made For Me (remix) (107,381)
by jaker20 from US
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I agree, I find myself putting this on loops. This one is a great addition to Mariah's collabs.
(Saturday 21 September 2024; 21:52)
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Made For Me (remix) (107,363)
by Billy from Greece
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I just love it. So addictive. I can't listen to it just one. Still on heavy rotation. Kudos to Muni Long as well.
(Wednesday 18 September 2024; 21:56)
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Brazil concert (107,380)
by jaker20 from US
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The videos I'm seeing in Twitter looks so much fun. I hope you had a great time.
(Saturday 21 September 2024; 21:52)
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Brazil concert (107,366)
by Carlos from Brazil
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Guys, I am losing my mind thinking in just one day I will see Mariah live for the first time. I feel very blessed and I hope all the Brazilian lambs have the most amazing time. I also think she will deliver a historical performance at Rock in Rio. I will only attend the São Paulo concert. For you guys to see Rock in Rio live it will be available to stream on Globoplay. 
(Thursday 19 September 2024; 13:21)
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Mariah's mom and sister both died on same day (107,281)
by jaker20 from US
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I actually think her relationship with her mom being complicated, doesn't mean strained. We don't know the full facts.
We've seen them together a lot, and they seem to get along. I see a lot of love there. Maybe by complicated it means her mom being in the middle, or just normal family disagreements like we all do. Again, we don't know to speculate.
So I don't instantly believe her relationship with her mom is strained, we have not seen evidence of this. I think that part is overblown.
(Tuesday 27 August 2024; 20:11)
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Mariah's mom and sister died on the same day (107,274)
by jaker20 from US
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You're making so many assumptions about Mariah and her relationship with her sister Morgan. You don't know how toxic or abusive their relationship was, or if there's anything at all. We don't know. We can't just bring ourselves into this.
We've seen couples from divorces, and toxic family relationships where everyone's just better off if there's no contact at all. I'm sure the smart and resilient woman that she is, she has already given that plenty of thought, to do what's best for her.
And now that she has kids, she even has even more to consider beyond herself. In the end. we and we do what is best for us, our experiences are different.
(Tuesday 27 August 2024; 18:13)
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Mariah's mom and sister died on the same day (107,265)
by Randy from USA
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Stop being so nasty all the time, especially since you're hiding. This may be complex so read slowly. Right now I think cutting people off is considered a flex. People brag about it. I understand doing it as a means to protect yourself. But it definitely shouldn't be done as a punishment or retaliation. Sometimes you must be the bigger person more than once because the other person is severely lacking. I am not criticizing MC for her handling of her abusive siblings. Hell, I would have cut Alison off too. But since I know MC through dozens of interviews, personal songs and a print memoir, I know she's a lot like me. We are both sensitive. And nothing knocks down the wall guarding a sensitive person more violently than regret. That is why people are hoping, not demanding, not forcing, her to have some sort of resolution with Morgan than involves some sort of regular communication.
(Tuesday 27 August 2024; 12:56)
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Mariah's mom and sister both died on same day (107,273)
by jaker20 from US
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This is very sad. I'm glad Mariah had spent some time with her mom before she passed. Condolences to her and her family.
(Tuesday 27 August 2024; 18:03)
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Rainbow 25 (106,697)
by jaker20 from US
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I love TGIFY but I felt like they had no chemistry. I agree that it probably would have been better if it's just Joe. Three artists is a bit of a crowd and on stage, it's even more crowded for her interact with. It's strange how that came about. As far as I know, Mariah's never talked about her collaboration with 98D when all of her collaborations have a story. With that said, I love the song itself, it's actually one of my most played songs in the album when I first had it. Sometimes, I wonder if she will ever add it on her setlist and 98D and Joe show up as a surprise.
I love every single version of the song, including the jazzy one that she performed live a few years ago in Vegas, which she completely slayed by the way.
(Saturday 15 June 2024; 04:39)
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Rainbow 25 (106,675)
by BFF from United States
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I like this "Mariah Only" version of "Thank God I Found You." It provides new insight into the recording process for the single and demonstrates that the song was complete before she decided to add the guest artists.
I've always liked the album version of the song (prefer it to the remix version) and thought it deserved to be a bigger hit than it was. It went to #1 but mostly based on single sales, not radio airplay. Maybe it would've worked better as a duet with Joe without 98 Degrees?
I think the Make It Last version worked best in its iteration without the rap from Nas, but it feels more like a cover of "Make it Last Forever" than a remix of Mariah's song. There are very few elements of the original song in the remix.
(Friday 14 June 2024; 12:13)
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Rainbow 25 (106,669)
by jaker20 from US
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He's been bitter since 1997 but it only came to light when Rainbow was released. He thought Mariah was nothing without him so when the album came out and she seem to be doing just fine and giving no feks about him and then back in the dating game is probably when he started puling those strings in the background.
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Rainbow 25 (106,666)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC was a very confident 30 year old to stand up to Sony. Not too many 30 year old female artists would decide to cut ties with a major company like Sony after unparalled success. I wonder why Tommy gave MC such hard time during the whole Rainbow era. Why was he still mad in 1999 when he granted MC a divorce after hearing Butterfly in 1997? Was he bitter because MC was dating Luis Miguel and working with David Foster? Questions here in Texas waiting for midnight.
(Friday 14 June 2024; 00:21)
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Rainbow 25 (106,648)
by jaker20 from US
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The vinyl design looks very tempting. I just might get it.
(Thursday 13 June 2024; 08:34)
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Rainbow 25 (106,638)
by Nick G from Germany
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The anniversary edition of Rainbow will be released on Friday. What do you expect? Tracks 21-23 are known, the normal version only had 14 tracks, I hope we get [There for me] or [After tonight] with Miguel. I'm looking forward to Rainbows End.
(Wednesday 12 June 2024; 18:23)
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