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The Butterfly Lounge: The Atlanta Sessions (99,123) by 123 from USA So it looks like she is working on a project documenting her creating music in the studio. Finally. If this isn't the best idea in years. I feel like this might be the filming though if reinterpretations of her previous songs (We Belong Together, The Roof). Wondering what she cooked up with her band in Atlanta. Question, any albums or artists you'd like Mariah to work with on a new record? What are people wanting from the new album? (Sunday 12 December 2021; 18:35)

Re: Christmas BPCH (Magic Continues) (99,036) (99,037) by 123 from USA Visually speaking I loved the production. I was surprised that she changed up a few vocals on FILAC. I thought she was going to mime to the studio version. I like the new vocals to BPCH. I'll take full voice mid range Mariah vocals over whispery vocals anyday. I like the vocal choices she made and replaced high bells with high falsetto notes or whistles. Two small critiques. This was too short. It was almost like what is the point? She could have added a couple of other songs she didn't sing in the previous special to continue to push other Christmas songs especially the ones she wrote. She's been promoting that her voice is in the best condition it's been in a long time, but anytime she belts high on the new BPCH vocals, it sounds digitally altered and not in a good way. I hope she can really rest and stay away from vices that dissipates the voice. I need full voiced vocals on the next album. (Saturday 4 December 2021; 23:38)

Re: Luis Miguel series (98,940) (98,948) by 123 from USA No problem Dee. What where your thoughts? (Monday 15 November 2021; 07:09)

Re: Luis Miguel series (98,941) (98,947) by 123 from USA If you listen to lamb folklore it was After Tonight that he was supposed to duet with Mariah on for Rainbow (now I think that was the song Mariah wanted Toni Braxton on). You had me thinking so I did some digging and this article confirmed what you are saying. David Foster was supposed to produce LM album, Great American Songbook but they sell out over the autotune issue and from the understanding the album never came out. LM did release a version of the song in 2020 with Celine Dion to his fans on Instagram (they sound great together I may add). Do you think that was calculated shade since he removed Mariah and put Celine on instead and only released this one song, especially since this story would be told on his series? Anyway, here is the article I found. (Monday 15 November 2021; 07:08)

Luis Miguel series (98,939) by 123 from USA So I saw this clip on the breakup of Luis Miguel and Mariah. Interesting is was all over a war of the egos. I mean, if you don't want your voice to be altered because you came to the session unprepared and drinking alcohol while recording of course you are going to sound flat and need "help". Lol. They referred to the producer as David. I have a feeling that's David Foster and the song was "After Tonight". Mariah should have given the rights to the song (if they asked for it). May have gotten it some streams and some cash in her pocket for doing nothing. The actress can really sing. That climax was Mariahesque. Especially the whispers. Here is a clip. (Saturday 13 November 2021; 20:20)

Re: Mariah McDonald's (98,919) (98,922) by 123 from USA I thought the Snickers add was brilliant. One of the best SuperBowl commercials that year. As long as the official add is good, you can pretty much sell anything. (Thursday 11 November 2021; 16:55)

Re: Mariah McDonald's (98,912) (98,913) by 123 from USA This isn't a new low but actually a testament that she can still nab an endorsement deal with a major fast food chain. J Balvin, a huge Latin artist, had his meal there, Travis Scott, a big hip hop artist, had a meal with them. Nelly and Anitta have meals with Burger King and Meg The Stalion had sauce with KFC. Only artists with major pull or a proven track record get these deals. I rather an endorsement I can afford rather than an expensive champagne I'm never going to buy. Hopefully her née song will play in the background during the commercial. She should have two versions, the night version should be the ballad and the day version. Should be the gospel part. I hope a shake or ice cream come with her meal and an hi c orange. Lol. (Thursday 11 November 2021; 02:42)

Re: Mariah - new label (98,895) (98,900) by 123 from USA Kirk Franklin is under the RCA Inspiration imprint as he is a gospel artist so I think that's why it's also included but I would t be mad at a gospel album. She's needed to do a gospel and jazz album for the longest. (Wednesday 10 November 2021; 03:46)

Mariah - new label (98,892) by 123 from USA So according to the New York Post Mariah is releasing music on her own imprint "MARIAH" in partnership with RCA records. So her deal with Epic must be over. Seems like a smart move so far. She was able to get to collab with Khalid, a big artist on RCA and Kirk Franklin who is signed to RCA Inspiration. (Tuesday 9 November 2021; 17:43)

Re: Babyface (98,877) (98,887) by 123 from USA Babyface hasn't had a hit in decades. I liked his 90s productions but Mariah was always the better songwriter. (Monday 8 November 2021; 19:08)

Fall in love at Christmas time (98,821) by 123 from USA I love love love the snippet. It sounds promising and the smidge of vocals I heard already surpass Cautions restrained vocals. Khalid sounds really good on the record and they blend really well together. I'm not even mad that it's a ballad. Doesn't sound like anything she's done but still r&b. I was dreading more Christmas stuff because all I want is a new album, greasy songs and vocals, a TEOM level push of her records (I really wish she'd spend her own money if the label doesn't want to give the proper budget) and some live singing. Two songs tops for each performance and sing everywhere - lol. One can dream right. Anyway excited for this new Christmas record. (Tuesday 2 November 2021; 06:30)

Re: Tanaka and MC (98,706) (98,707) by 123 from USA She has said she will never get married again and is not having anymore kids. This was before she got with him so I'm sure he is aware and seems to be happy with their current arrangement. (Thursday 7 October 2021; 01:25)

Re: Mariah and Ryan Reynolds in romantic comedy movie (98,554) (98,556) by 123 from USA I disagree that she is a bad actress. She's good when she isn't playing herself or some version of her and when required to take direction. She's used to having control, and when she does, the results suck, hence that horrible Hallmark movie. She was amazing in Wise Girls. I didn't see Mariah Carey when she played Rachel. I would love another gritty role as a supporting character. A comedy would be great but only if she had 0% control. (Saturday 28 August 2021; 00:26)

Re: MC's sexiest album cover (98,477) (98,481) by 123 from USA I liked how she said for her new project that she wouldn't even care if she was on the cover. That's new for her as well know she is very particular about her looks. If anything I'm hoping it's her evolving as an artist and diving more into her artistic side instead of leaning towards the same vanity shots. I love the blue She Hulk Caution cover. I didn't think she would have the guts to do that. Hoping for more artistic album covers in the future. Notable mention to the Emancipation and Butterfly covers. The close up Music Box cover is her most beautiful cover. It just can't be topped. (Sunday 1 August 2021; 09:48)

Re: Wedding song (98,166) (98,173) by 123 from USA Music Box. It's a good choice if you are looking for someone to sing it. It's sung mostly in her middle register with few transitions and inflections. Part of what Mariahs song so hard to replicate is all the transitions. She's whispering on second, diving to a deep note the next, only to jump up to a high belt and then go into her falsetto. Who can keep up with that - lol. (Tuesday 15 June 2021; 05:16)

Spoiler alert (98,129) by 123 from USA For those that don't want to wait until midnight. (Thursday 10 June 2021; 00:38)

Somewhat Loved (98,128) by 123 from USA I heard the full song and I like it. The vocal approach is reminiscent of E=MC2. Sung straight forward and in her mid range. I really like the lyrics. The intro is beautiful and I love the verses. The bridge is a little busy. No big vocal moment at the end sans a few whistles. It's probably her most poppy sounding r&b song since Beautiful. It has potential. Not sure if Jimmy Jam and Terry’s label are going to put any money behind it for radio but it’s nice to have a new song. I really relate to the lyrics currently so I’ll be living with this song this summer. (Wednesday 9 June 2021; 23:48)

Re: Caution deserved better (98,123) (98,127) by 123 from USA The problem with Caution is the label didn't send any of its singles to all major radio formats, they only sent them to adult ac and urban ac to die a quick death and not even chart. I see Mariah is following Melissa to Range Entertainment. I'm wondering if they have a plan this go around to fund the radio promo themselves and reach out to the executives of big radio stations to set up deal where she promises to do interviews and Christmas concerts if they put her new singles on rotation. Gone are the days where labels put money behind her. She's going to have to use her contacts and own money to push her songs if she really wants a hit because Epic isn't giving her much support or a decent budget to score a hit. I know she is used to being catered to but if she wants to chart, Mariah and her team are going to have to take matters into their own hands. She has the money and the connections. It's time to put that into action. The Caution Tour was excellent. It really was a tour for the lambs. She did fan favorites like AYNAF and YDKWTD from the I AM album and the ABMB remix. It's my favorite tour so far. (Wednesday 9 June 2021; 23:44)

Carlos Santana collab (98,068) by 123 from USA I need them to work together. The Macy's commercial where she sings to his melody in Spanish and then starts scatting is nice. I've been wanting this collab for a long time. (Wednesday 2 June 2021; 15:33)

Breaking down the Lead The Way runs (98,062) by 123 from USA For all the Lead The Way lovers or just folks who love a good vocal breakdown, this is a must watch. I love how he plots every single note and every goes into detail in the small little inflections and changes within each run. She sings them so fast I guess I didn't realize how complex they are. It's one thing to be able to mimic her runs like the Lead The Way challenge but it's an entirely different thing to actually come up with these runs. This is a must watch. I felt like I was back in math class trying to get from point A to point Z. I love how the guy doing the analysis gives a lot of respect for the complexity of these runs. (Wednesday 2 June 2021; 01:33)

New game: favorite non single Walter album cut (98,061) by 123 from USA Let's play a game. Since so many people love Walter on this board, what is your favorite Walter produced non single, album cut. My vote is for All I Ever Wanted for the lyrics alone. "If you only knew, what I feel for you. If you only lived for me, the way I live for you." This song always gives me the feels. I seldom listen to it for some reason but when I do I get lost in the song. Anyone else? Your pick and reasons why. (Wednesday 2 June 2021; 01:27)

Re: So much better (98,059) (98,060) by 123 from USA I love I don't. I think it got a bad rap because it came out during the nightmare era and YGs intro was entirely too long and only brought the song down. I always listen to the no rap version of this song. I love the melody to the verses and the pre chorus and lyrically the first verse is very Mariah while the second verse is very Mimi. She looked great in the video but the 3 and a half minutes of meaningless posing without any attempt at a storyline killed the video. Had they had Mariah walking in the bedroom of that mansion catching her WBT lead in bed with another woman and Mariah storming out of the house while stealing the keys to his luxury vehicle, crashing it and it burst into flames with a trunk full of his belonging and the skirt of the wedding dress peaking out of the trunk... any lamb on this board could have came up with a great inexpensive concept. If you were hired to redo the I Don't video, what would your concept be and how would you roll out promotion for the song if you were in charge. Let's get this board moving again. (Wednesday 2 June 2021; 01:23)

Re: Somewhat Loved snippet (98,027) (98,032) by 123 from USA I loved it. The hook was catchy and I liked the bridge. Hoping for a vocal moment at the end. Her voice sounds really good and she is singing in full voice. Gone is the unnatural vocals on certain parts of her home performances. She didn't sound well on those. Though is the first song since Beautiful that has the mass appeal sound she was known for in her early years blending pop and r&b. I see Jimmy and Terry's people took the song down. Who are they signed to? I wonder if they are releasing it as a single and giving it a decent radio budget. (Tuesday 25 May 2021; 09:14)

Re: Somewhat Loved (98,019) (98,022) by 123 from USA I like it. If the piano sounds familiar it's because you have heard it before. It's Guy - Piece of My Love, which was sampled for Mariah's Crybaby along with a plethora of other songs. (Monday 24 May 2021; 01:07)

Re: The art of forgiveness (97,993) (97,997) by 123 from USA This is a dead subject. Besides, they continue to take swipes at each other. The song goes number 1 finally and he does an interview again that she has "erased" him from the songs history when she gave him credit in a video weeks prior to the song going number 1. Plus, I would have stopped mentioning his name too when he when on record saying it wasn't his most favorite song he wrote (a swipe to her as a songwriter) and that the going up and down the scale as the melody was so basic (a swipe at her musicianship) he was worried what his musician friends would say. Plus there are times he is interviewed about the song and he barely if at all mentions her involvement. I knew after he came out last year about her trying to not give him credit there would be payback and it came with her only mentioning his name once in passing in her memoir. Brutal. I think he won this war when he sold his half of the royalties to someone other than her. Not sure they will make up, like, ever. It would be nice to forgive, even if they never work together because who wants to keeping carrying that for years. I would leave that situation where it's at. (Saturday 22 May 2021; 00:34)

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