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Lovers and Friends performance (102,672) by BFF from United States One Sweet Day with Boyz II Men (Sunday 7 May 2023; 15:57) this is a reply to message 102,669

Lovers and Friends performance (102,669) by Bobby A from United States Well, MC made us proud Lambs. She has her voice. I loved the Til The End Of Time - Camouflage - Vision of Love - hello lovers and friends intro. Mimi is even looking like she stepped back into her Touch My Body video. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 08:51)

Why is MC such a brilliant songwriter? (102,664) by BFF from United States I love Stevie Wonder and agree with everything you said, but he didn't write the lyrics or the music for "For Once In My Life". That song was recorded before he started taking more creative control over his music. (Friday 5 May 2023; 18:04) this is a reply to message 102,645

Why is MC such a brilliant songwriter? (102,645) by Bobby A from United States This question came to my mind yesterday watching one of the American Idol contestants perform one of Stevie Wonder's most well known hits- For Once In My Life. Stevie Wonder will always be regarded as a brilliant songwriter because of his unique ability to draw in the listener with his lyrics and melodies. And that is exactly what MC does with her lyrics and melodies. Lastly, MC does that unique humming and singing to the melody of her songs that very few singers do. ABMB is a huge example of MC at her best. MC is one of the greatest songwriters to live. What do the Lambs think? (Monday 1 May 2023; 20:00)

What is your initial fan story? (102,624) by BFF from United States For me, hearing "One Sweet Day" on the radio when my mom was picking me up from school is probably my earliest memory of being aware of Mariah's music. My maternal grandfather had recently passed away, so the song had particular resonance for my mom and our family. I was three years old when Mariah first came out but really became cognizant of her music around the "Daydream" era. (Monday 24 April 2023; 20:00) this is a reply to message 102,618

What is your initial fan story? (102,618) by Bobby A from United States What fascinated you about MC at any era that compelled you to become a lifetime fan? For me, it was Love Takes Time. Hearing this gem constantly on the radio made me know I was going to be a fan for life. (Monday 24 April 2023; 01:02)

Legacy (102,610) by BFF from United States I totally agree, Randy. AIWFCIY is one of the least impressive popular songs in her catalogue. I also think that "Hero" is pretty overrated, and the fact that she wrote it for someone else indicates to me that it shouldn't be considered her signature song. To me, "Vision of Love" is her signature song. It is one of the most triumphant, mature, transcendent, and confident songs in her catalogue. I think it needs to elevated above "AIWFCIY" and "Hero" - neither of those songs truly represent her artistry. "Butterfly" is considered by most OG fans to be her best album, but, to me, "Emotions" is either a very close second or tied for first place. That era was Mariah at her most authentic. She was in full control of the creative direction of that album. Her presentation was reserved but confident, and her image was very simple. I would've pushed her tour during the "Emotions" era to silence the naysayers - "Unplugged" was great but not enough. She was not yet in the unhealthy marriage to Tommy (that relationship should have remained professional). And she was not pandering to any particular audience in the way she did post-1997. (Saturday 22 April 2023; 15:13) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,592) by BFF from United States Yes to all of this. And Trey Lorenz, Patrick McMillan, and the other guys backing her up during live performances were phenomenal. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 03:03) this is a reply to message 102,586

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,586) by Jamie from UK Emotions album is one of my favourites, it oozes soul, her voice is so warm and the ballads are perfect. Till the End of Time is a masterpiece, it's beautiful. And one of my all time favourite songs is Can't Let Go. The video portrays a classy Mariah, something about her in that video is different she shows so much passion. Her image was so refined during this album wholesome, relatable and appealing. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 21:19)

Anytime You Need a Friend - Extended (102,591) by BFF from United States What crazy person decided to leave out the extended fadeout on this song? The vocals at the end are absolutely sublime and should have been included on the final studio version. Mariah totally goes off, and I'm here for it. (Thursday 20 April 2023; 02:39)

Female singers (102,581) by BFF from United States I disagree that Mariah's "racial identity" was concealed during her early years by Tommy. She is on the record in one of her first TV interviews in 1990 about this. Critics like Nelson George who made Mariah's "racial identity" into a big deal were the problem, not Tommy. No other female singer of that era (or any era, really) was called upon by critics to constantly explain her "racial" background. No one made a big deal about Whitney Houston's background, Celine Dion's background, or Toni Braxton's background. Just Mariah's. And the people who constantly asked her to self-identify so were feeding into racialist and racist thinking. This is the same BS that got applied to gay/lesbian artists who would rather focus on their musical output than constantly have to discuss their sexual orientation. The implication of this never-ending discussion is that African-Americans somehow are inherently better singers than people of European descent or that skin color has anything to do with singing ability. And Mariah was called upon to pander to this nonsense. Listen to a Janet Jackson record alongside a Celine Dion record, and you'll know that this is absolute BS. Fans who continue to focus on this (and even Mariah herself) cheapen Mariah's artistry and accomplishments. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 13:38) this is a reply to message 102,580

Female singers (102,580) by Bobby A from United States One thing that I did notice from 1990-1997 is that Tommy concealed her bi-racial identity in any way that he could. Go back and watch those early 90s performances and interviews, it was hard to tell during those years that MC was bi-racial at least for me. Tommy's oppressive behavior over MC really did something to her emotionally and mentally. MC was never the same woman after 1997. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 03:10)

Female singers (102,578) by BFF from United States Oh, I totally agree that marrying Tommy undermined her credibility in the eyes of some people. I also agree that he had a positive impact on her career prior to their separation. I think Mariah also had a lot to do with her own success, but Tommy should be given the credit he is due. He was correct to steer her away from movies. I wish she had opted not to marry him and instead only interacted with him in a professional capacity or maybe tried a bit harder post-1997 to be civil and professional. I think marrying him meant she had something to prove once they separated in 1997/98 and it resulted in her making a number of poor choices in the ensuing years just to be "anti-Tommy" rather than being "pro-Mariah". Backing out of the US leg of the "Butterfly" tour for that stupid movie with Chris Tucker (ugh), rushing the "Rainbow" album out the door, watering down the original concept for "Glitter", tacking way too many rappers onto songs on "Rainbow" and "Glitter", focusing too much on her image and not on her voice, etcetera. (Wednesday 19 April 2023; 01:19) this is a reply to message 102,575

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19)

Female singers (102,572) by BFF from United States I think each case is unique, and I don't think this is necessarily an issue of industry sexism. Britney Spears and her management chose for her to have an inappropriately sexualized image from the start of her career, and I believe that is the genesis of a lot of her issues. Britney could push herself harder on the choreography front because she didn't write/produce her own material and never sang live. I believe Mariah overworked herself due to her deep-seated insecurity around identity, the chaotic/dysfunctional nature of her childhood, and her decision to become romantically involved with her boss (Tommy). It definitely did not help when Nelson George called her a "white girl who can sing black" and when people started setting her against Whitney Houston. And let's be honest, Whitney and her fans wish that she had written and sang a song as great as "Vision of Love". Still grinds my gears that Whitney is seen as having more "credibility" when she didn't write or produce a damn word of her own material. Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder. But really ever since 2001, Mariah has been pretty relaxed on the career front. Long periods between studio albums, some touring but nothing as strenuous as what other artists do, detours into movies. I don't think Mariah has pushed herself particularly hard since the early 2000s. The bottom line is that all people in the entertainment business opted into this for their career and can walk away at any time if it's too much for them. They all have the privilege of earning a living from something other people do as a hobby. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:20) this is a reply to message 102,567

Female singers (102,567) by Bobby A from United States Why do female singers seemed to have various career setbacks and have a hard time telling people no more than male singers? From MC to Britney to Ariana to Adele to Toni Braxton, it has happened to them all. They just to seem to have more career problems after a fast ride to success. While male singers from Usher to Kem to Sam Smith to Ed Sherran have more of a balanced approach to their career success. Are female singers pushed harder to become successful at a faster pace than their male counterparts? Looking at Ariana's recent video post of her looking frail and not looking like she did 2 years ago prompted my post. She looks like she is just tired from recording and touring from the past 10 years. (Monday 17 April 2023; 04:35)

"Emotions" album appreciation (102,562) by BFF from United States I find myself looking back on this album/era regretting that it hasn't been properly appreciated by fans and critics alike. I consider it Mariah's most "adult" album and my second favorite behind "Butterfly". Songs like "Can't Let Go", "If It's Over", Make It Happen", "So Blessed" and others sound and feel like they were recorded/written by someone much older than early 20s. Having C+C Music Factory alongside Walter Afanasieff really helped her strike a "just right" balance of soul, pop, gospel, and house. It was also unique in the sense that she was not yet married to Tommy but had full control over the creative direction of the album. It makes me wonder what her trajectory would have been if she hadn't decided to marry Tommy. Don't get me wrong, I love "Music Box" and "Daydream", but "Emotions" really tops both of those records in terms of writing, vocals, and production. She seemed much happier in the "Emotions" period and not very happy during the 1993-1996 period. It's such a unique moment in her catalog and career. (Sunday 16 April 2023; 02:19)

Article: Track list revealed for Mariah's new album (102,514) by BFF from United States She should have released the album as "The Art of Letting Go" on the original release date. "Me I Am Mariah" has some good songs, but it does not work as an album. Like "Rainbow," it felt like something she released simply to fulfill contractual obligations. Collaborating with Miguel on "#Beautiful" was a smart move, but the momentum got squandered. (Saturday 8 April 2023; 14:24) this is a reply to message 102,512

Article: Track list revealed for Mariah's new album (102,512) by Edward from USA An employee at Walmart was responsible for the title leak, but I doubt it was the reason Mariah scrapped everything. At the time it was about to be released, she was still in a relationship with Nick. When their relationship started going down south is when TAOLG didn't make sense to her anymore. (Saturday 8 April 2023; 13:09)

Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,395) by BFF from United States I prefer "Ken Lee" to "Without You". It's more soulful. (Friday 24 March 2023; 23:27) this is a reply to message 102,391

Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,391) by MC85 from Canada I have worked with and still do work with lots of much younger people, from early teens to mid-to-late 20's and they all know and can sing along to "Obsessed", even well before it had it's little semi-recent viral moment. So that's my choice, though definitely "Without You" isn't far behind though WU isn't as familiar to the young'uns. (Friday 24 March 2023; 19:37)

Pick 5 favorites re-imagined by the same producer (102,242) by BFF from United States I would love for Mariah to work with Blood Orange/Devonte Hynes again. I loved his first album as Blood Orange and love the "True" EP that he produced with Solange. I always wished that Solange had cut an entire album with him rather than just six or so songs. (Sunday 19 February 2023; 15:28) this is a reply to message 102,237

Pick 5 favorites re-imagined by the same producer (102,237) by Bobby A from United States I was thinking this morning how MC's You're Mine (Eternal) and Keyshia Cole's Stubborn definitely have that Rodney Jerkins signature sound. Then I thought about wouldn't it be cool if MC released an album of her favorite album tracks re-imagined by the same producer. Here are my five favorites that I would like re-imagined: 1. You're Mine (Eternal) - Rodney Jerkins 2. Ribbon - Christopher Stewart/The-Dream 3. Giving Me Life - Blood Orange 4. Meteorite - Q-Tip 5. Shake It Off - JD/BMC/JA You know I had to have a JD track. Lol. (Saturday 18 February 2023; 14:08)

New picture (102,174) by BFF from United States I think Mariah crash diets when she is preparing for a promotional blitz and then puts the weight back on once she's done with promoting her latest project and goes back to unhealthy patterns. I think it's as simple as that. Maintaining a healthy weight and fitness requires more than just temporary dieting and quick fixes - it involves adjustment of one's lifestyle. This means a lifestyle that includes regular exercise, healthy eating, abstaining from alcohol and other unhealthy substances, good sleep habits, et cetera. I think Mariah can do the exercise and healthy eating bit, but her Achilles heels always seem to be her poor sleep habits and her consumption of alcohol. (Friday 3 February 2023; 15:50) this is a reply to message 102,164

New picture (102,164) by Randy from USA I struggle with weight. I can't imagine what it's like to be in the public eye with paparazzi outside your building. But why does it seem MCs weight goes up and down so much and so quickly. Maybe this is a bad angle. But I swear it reminds me of the parody Debra Wilson and MadTV did with the "I'm Not Insane" where she sings the line as MC, "Although my weight, does fluctuate." Any thoughts on this phenomenon where MC goes from a size 6 to a size 16 in a matter of two months? (Wednesday 1 February 2023; 02:11)

Beyonce lipping (102,117) by BFF from United States Yeah, I'm not a fan of the "everybody else is doing it, so why can't we" approach to lip-syncing. The fact that a number of artists lip-synch a good portion of their shows does not make it any less dishonest. Bottom line: People are forking over hard-earned money for often exorbitantly priced tickets to see a show and to support the artists they love. If an artist advertises themselves as a "singer-songwriter", vocalist", et cetera, they need to be singing most or all of the songs live. And if they're not confident they can handle the songs live, they need to work harder at training their voices and getting fit for the tour, adjust the songs to fit their voice as it is, or they need to not go on tour. The fact of the matter is that these artists have the privilege of earning a living from something that most people do as a hobby. (Monday 23 January 2023; 14:59) this is a reply to message 102,112

Beyonce lipping (102,112) by Tyler from USA I just saw a few clips from the Beyonce show and she pretty much lipped the same amount as MC. All of the harder runs and notes were completely pre-records. I was surprised given that fact this was a very low choreography driven show. I'm not saying this to put another artist down to make Mariah look better but the fact there's very few artist doing 100% live shows. I think the days of 100% vocally driven concert of the 90's are gone for most artist not just MC. All we need is Beyonce's audio guy to help blend the vocals and more practicing on Mariah's part. (Monday 23 January 2023; 00:06)

Memoirs is underrated (102,113) by BFF from United States I agree. I think the "Memoirs" album is underrated and better than E=MC2, but it's too long. I really don't like "Obsessed" amongst the singles in her catalogue - the auto-tune use was a major turnoff. I probably would have picked a different song to remake other than "I Want to Know What Love Is" - it just didn't work and felt a little random since she hadn't covered anything in a while. I went to the Atlanta tour date of the "Angels Advocate" tour and remember being bummed when the remix album "Angels Advocate" was cancelled. She leaned pretty heavily into her role in "Precious" during this period, which was a little surprising considering how small her role is in the movie. Everyone was like "Oh, this is proof she can act." but I found her much more compelling in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". Her role in "Tennessee" was much larger and she recorded two songs for it, but she hardly did any promotion for the film or "Right to Dream", which is a great song. (Monday 23 January 2023; 00:33) this is a reply to message 102,111

Memoirs is underrated (102,111) by Randy from USA I feel like the album is underrated and too long. I don't begrudge any of the songs but did Ribbon, More Than Just Friends, Standing O or Inseparable add anything to her catalogue? I do love Languishing though. It's actually one of my most played songs by her right now. (Sunday 22 January 2023; 22:40)

Caution (102,097) by BFF from United States I agree. I think Mariah needs to really train her voice up and go back to writing lyrics on her own rather than with collaborators. I think collaborating on the music makes sense, but her songs lose her unique touch when she brings in lyricists to collaborate with. I would prefer a second "Rarities" collection this year over a half-baked "Caution"-like album of new material. (Thursday 19 January 2023; 20:47) this is a reply to message 102,096

Caution (102,096) by Edward from USA I was listening to Caution yesterday and I couldn't believe it's been almost five years since its release. One would think Mariah recorded a lot during the pandemic, so there should be enough material to at least release a solid EP. I do miss "The Voice". Sometimes I'm not sure if Marian wants to sing anymore. Most of her one-song projects in the past ten years have been lackluster, half-cooked. Her songs used to have legs of their own, but for a while now those legs are based on a hype that renders them crippled when you get to listen to them. Most cuts that didn't make it into her albums in the 90's are simply great. I'm not talking about her voice, but the artistry in her music. Butterfly was sung in her whisper register, but oh boy, those lyrics, the sentiment, the music, it didn't need an introduction. It's as if she were done with music but she's thrown into the spot light for a whole month every year and she has to act on it for financial reasons. I hopefully we get some quality music this year. Something different. (Thursday 19 January 2023; 13:26)

Improvements to Glitter (102,087) by BFF from United States I think Mariah could have improved the outcome of the "Glitter" era by only committing to six songs on the soundtrack rather than twelve. I remember her mentioning this during the Fox Family channel documentary about the making of the movie and soundtrack, and I think this makes total sense. She could have structured it in a similar fashion to "The Bodyguard" soundtrack where Whitney only contributed about six songs. I think this would have taken some of the pressure off and might have made her less exhausted. It might have even prevented the sabotage of "Loverboy" because she could have gotten the movie and soundtrack out before Tommy and J. Lo did her dirty. I'm pretty sure the release was initially late 2000 or early 2001. I would have limited Mariah's soundtrack contributions to the following: 1. Loverboy ("Firecracker" original) 2. Never Too Far 3. Want You (with Eric Benet) 4. All My Life 5. Lead the Way 6. Reflections 7. Twister The rest of the songs just don't work as well. She probably could have gotten permission to use songs like "Never Too Much" by Luther Vandross, "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash, and the originals of the songs she covered. I even think that song "We Could Have Been" by Eric Benet could've worked on the soundtrack. Just some thoughts I had. I think the film might have turned out better if Mariah had relinquished a bit of control over the soundtrack and allowed contributions from other artists. She would've had more time and energy to devote to the acting, writing and production on the film. (Monday 16 January 2023; 18:48)

Butterfly (102,084) by BFF from United States "Butterfly" is one of the best ballads she ever wrote. I wish Sony had commercially released it. I think it could have gone to #1 easily on the strength of the ballad version as well as "Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise)". (Monday 16 January 2023; 15:57) this is a reply to message 102,071

Butterfly (102,071) by MusicfanJ from Germany This song is still so brilliant. By the first listen in 97 I loved this song. I think it's beside "Hero" Mariah's hymn. An emotional ballad, poetic lyrics and a beautiful, classy video. We all know that Mariah described her new free life with it and the tough relationship with Tommy. But for me the song can also be about friendship, changes, dreams and life in general. Today the people won't get a song like this again. In 97 the music and the artists from many genres were really awesome. Music will always be a mirror of the times. I miss those days. (Saturday 14 January 2023; 17:20)

The vocal performance award (102,083) by BFF from United States I think her lack of touring during that period contributed. She neglected to do a concert tour until 1993. And even when she did tour in the 1990s, the tours were very short. Whitney Houston and Celine Dion, though they did not write or produce their own records, both toured extensively. If you do not tour, how can anyone know that you have the chops to pull off a "vocal performance"? Mariah definitely did have the chops, but she and her management should have pushed for more extensive touring during the 1990-1997 period. Her decision to end the "Butterfly" tour early to pursue that silly movie role with Chris Tucker was a very frustrating choice. (Monday 16 January 2023; 15:46) this is a reply to message 102,066

The vocal performance award (102,066) by Bobby A from United States I think it was because of the lack of consistency with MC's sound from 1990-1997. She started out with a pop debut album in 1990. Emotions had more of a R&B sound. Music Box went back to a pop sound. Daydream was totally a R&B album. Butterfly moved MC more into the hip hop R&B world. Do you see how the Grammys committee would be confused about MC's sound and direction? (Friday 13 January 2023; 01:04)

Primary custody (102,082) by BFF from United States I agree that it's great that she got Roc N Roe out of the marriage. I'm just not sure Nick Cannon was the best choice for co-parent and life partner. (Monday 16 January 2023; 15:38) this is a reply to message 102,067

Primary custody (102,067) by Stacey from USA I don't see Mariah's marriage to Nick as a mistake. She got Roc and Roe out of it. (Friday 13 January 2023; 06:35)

Primary custody (102,057) by BFF from United States Why do all of these people opt into this situation knowing that Nick has children with multiple women? Have any of them heard of birth control, contraceptives, or any type of pregnancy prevention mechanism? Nick Cannon's reputation definitely precedes him, and clearly he has no interest in condoms, vasectomy, et cetera. It's not exactly news that he likes to sleep around. My guess is that many of them want to be taken care of financially. I love Mariah, but marrying Nick was definitely a very poor decision on her part. I get that she wanted children, but someone with her financial resources could have easily done it another way. Not sure what her chances are for primary custody, but it does seem like she is the more competent parent. (Thursday 12 January 2023; 15:51) this is a reply to message 102,056

Primary custody (102,056) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes, but it's understandable for Mariah to take this step. I don't know about the US law but here Mariah would easily get the primary custody. I mean with six different mothers, we call that antisocial here. Sorry, but it's the truth. And maybe Nick won't stop and there will be a another woman with a child from him. Definitely not a normal situation for children. So I hope Mariah is getting the custody. (Thursday 12 January 2023; 14:06)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,025) by BFF from United States These are the singers that come to mind for me. 10 Female singers: 1. Aretha Franklin 2. Linda Ronstadt 3. Donna Summer 4. Whitney Houston 5. Mariah Carey 6. Celine Dion 7. Wynonna Judd 8. Etta James 9. Bonnie Raitt 10. Carrie Underwood 10 Male singers: 1. Marvin Gaye 2. Seal 3. Bruce Springsteen 4. Luther Vandross 5. Prince 6. Bill Withers 7. Stevie Wonder 8. Otis Redding 9. Steve Winwood 10. Teddy Pendergrass (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:34) this is a reply to message 102,007

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007) by Norman from USA After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability? Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right? Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking. Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order): Mariah (obviously) Whitney Celine Etta James Aretha Ella Freddie Mercury Donny Hathaway Luther Linda Ronstadt Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder Bono Rocio Durcal Prince Barb[a]ra Streisand George Michael Al Green Axl Rose Tina Turner Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists. What say you? (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32)

RS (102,024) by BFF from United States Donna Summer is not comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna? Beyonce lifted the hook for "Naughty Girl" from "Love to Love You Baby". She and Rihanna would not have careers without the existence of Donna Summer, and they are both mediocre singers in comparison. (Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:25) this is a reply to message 102,015

RS (102,015) by Mariahsbaby from usa Rolling Stone on the list: "In all cases, what mattered most to us was originality, influence, the depth of an artist's catalog, and the breadth of their musical legacy. A voice can be gorgeous like Mariah Carey's, rugged like Toots Hibbert's, understated like Willie Nelson's, slippery and sumptuous like D'Angelo's, or bracing like Bob Dylan's." And they also added: " Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices list. Talent is impressive; genius is transcendent." Celine Dion is the only one who we should really be upset about, Donna is not even comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna has one of the most iconic and well known voices, her songs are played around the globe. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 19:28)

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,012) by BFF from United States 100 percent agree. Celine Dion has been singing her face off for decades, and Rolling Stone snubbing someone with such technical prowess is a travesty. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 16:22) this is a reply to message 102,008

Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,008) by Stacey from USA We can argue about Mariah's place on the list, etc. But Celine missing? That's a huge mistake from Rolling Stone. Shame on them. (Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:36)

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