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Favorite Mariah Hip-Hop collaborations (108,485) by BFF from United States
Totally fair. I just find the Fantasy Remix very "cut and paste" in terms of Mariah's remixes whereas the hip-hop remixes for songs like My All, Always Be My Baby, Heartbreaker, Thank God I Found You and Honey (So So Def) were re-sung, re-recorded, and re-written with new samples in an incredibly creative way. I also just find Wu-Tang Clan and ODB a bit overrated in comparison to other hip-hop acts from the 1990s. I particularly appreciated Mariah pulling in Missy Elliott and Da Brat on the Heartbreaker remix for an answer to Snoop Dogg's "Ain't No Fun".
(Saturday 29 March 2025; 18:02)
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Favorite Mariah Hip-Hop collaborations (108,481) by BFF from United States
I was talking to someone the other day about how I felt the ODB version of "Fantasy" is a bit overrated and played out. It's the one that everyone knows - I actually quite like the original version and the House remix more. Though I do appreciate the "Me and Mariah go back like babies and pacifiers" line. I use that one a lot. What do you all think? Favorite Mariah hip-hop collaborations/remixes? These would be my 10 favorites

1. My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def Remix)
2. The Roof (Mobb Deep Extended)
3. Breakdown (Mo Thugs Version)
4. Crybaby
5. Always Be My Baby (So So Def Remix)
6. Underneath the Stars (Drifting Remix)
7. I Still Believe/Pure Imagination
8. Honey (So So Def Remix)
9. Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix)
10. Heartbreaker (DJ Clue Remix)

I never really cared for "I Know What You Want" with Busta Rhymes. And I still feel like Mariah's golden period for these collaborations was that 1997-2000 period.
(Saturday 29 March 2025; 14:29)
Happy birthday MC / What y'all playin? (108,479) by BFF from United States
I'm all up in my feelings with "Can't Let Go", "Can't Take that Away", and "My All/Stay Awhile".

"Can't Let Go" is hitting especially hard (particularly the Soul Train performance) due to certain men who are sending mixed, hot/cold signals.
(Saturday 29 March 2025; 14:01)
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Ribbon (108,446) by BFF from United States
I totally agree. "Circles", "Mine Again", and "Stay the Night" all sounded strained and that's why I never cared for those songs. "Joy Ride" was slightly better, but overall, the ballads on the album needed more work. I think "Sprung" should have made the main track listing - there is something so effervescent and joyful about it.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 16:27)
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Emancipation & Daydream (108,443) by BFF from United States
I was hearing Mariah very early on in the 90s and remember songs like "Dreamlover", "One Sweet Day", "I'll Be There", "Always Be My Baby", etc on the radio. But I became a massive fan during the "Rainbow" era. It's not her best album, but it was an incredibly fun era that I loved. I think Mariah was sending subliminal messages to my young gay boy self with that album cover lol.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 14:37)
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Late 90s / early 00s Hero renditions (108,442) by BFF from United States
I keep listening to this rendition of "Hero" from the Rainbow tour and am in awe of how the song really took on a different meaning for Mariah at that point in time. She finally understood why the song was so important to so many of us. I'm at a point in my life where I really need the song after a long period of shrinking myself for others.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 14:33)
Emancipation & Daydream (108,417) by BFF from United States
TEOM:

Sprung
Fly Like A Bird
honorable mention: Say Somethin'

Daydream:

Slipping Away
One Sweet Day
honorable mention: Melt Away
(Tuesday 25 March 2025; 00:36)
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Love letter to MC (108,415) by BFF from United States
Amen. Mariah, we love you unconditionally and support whatever you decide to do.
(Monday 24 March 2025; 23:17)
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It's divas week (108,406) by BFF from United States
You're putting a rush on us, Randy.
(Sunday 23 March 2025; 12:42)
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I don't Heart (108,379) by BFF from United States
I definitely approve of Anderson from an aesthetics standpoint. He's very good looking, and he seems like he has a kind and upbeat persona. Also quite talented from a musical standpoint. Overall, he's probably one of Mariah's better choices in terms of men.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 23:29)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,347) by BFF from United States
I totally get it. I'm a very sensitive person and take things personally at times as well. I hope you are able to find a better workplace soon.
(Saturday 15 March 2025; 14:07)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,344) by BFF from United States
Robert Anthony, I hope you know that my post was not directed against you but all of the people who have been so cruel to Mariah throughout the years. It really feels personal when people are so mean and disrespectful to her. I felt it when people made fun of made for loving her in childhood, adolescence and adulthood. You just wonder when people will embrace her for the truly great, international, boundary-breaking artist that she is.
(Friday 14 March 2025; 00:04)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,340) by BFF from United States
No worries, Robert Anthony. I just think that people underestimate the level of disrespect/venom that people have directed at Mariah over the years. It's been memory holed by a lot of people, and many think that a few retrospective positive reviews of "Daydream" or "Butterfly" somehow makes up for how poorly she was treated at times.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 17:16)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,338) by BFF from United States
Mariah has collaborated with a diverse range of artists as well. She's recorded songs and sang live with Luther Vandross, Whitney Houston, Luciano Pavarotti, Boyz II Men, Aretha Franklin, Carole King, Babyface, ODB, Rick James, Eric Benet, Jay-Z, Willie Nelson, and the list goes on. I'm telling you, people disrespect Mariah out of spite for all of the reasons Randy and I elaborated upon in our posts.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 11:39)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,334) by BFF from United States
I agree, Randy. And this whole thing started with the "white girl trying to sing black" BS that was used to undermine her. None of the people you mentioned wrote every song on their first album and continued to write and produce on subsequent albums. The industry has never given her the respect she deserves because they never bothered to look beneath the surface level journalistic takes written about her in the 90s and beyond. That's why the Craig Seymour interview from 1999 is so important and one of her best interviews. She's able to elaborate in detail about how critics created this overly simplistic racialist narrative about her (and honestly re-traumatize her in the process), claiming that she never did R&B/club-inspired records before the "Fantasy" remix or the "Butterfly" album and claiming that she was just a middle of the road adult contemporary artist. The reality is that "Emotions" was heavily influenced by R&B, soul, club, and gospel music. And even the stuff on the debut and "Music Box" was. I mean, did these people even listen to the albums?
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 14:22)
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Precious (108,327) by BFF from United States
I'm not sure I agree with Mariah's thoughts on Terrence Howard for the role of Dice. I think Max Beesley worked well because of his acting talent and because he was also a musician. I do not agree that Beesley was chosen over Howard due to racism.

I'm also not a fan of Terrence Howard as a person because of his history of misogyny and abuse of women. One of the incidents happened around the time he was cast in "Glitter". There are better African-American male actors who actually treat women with respect and decency.
(Saturday 8 March 2025; 14:56)
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Precious (108,322) by BFF from United States
Well, I think Mariah was actively discouraged by Tommy to take roles that she was offered in the 1990s. She has alluded to the fact that there were film roles offered to her that made other people movie stars. I also think a lot of her efforts to break into movies during the 1997-2001 period were derailed and sabotaged. If you recall, she cut her Butterfly Tour short because she wanted to do a movie called "Double O Soul" with Chris Tucker but then Tucker backed out, leaving Mariah with nothing to show for her investment in that project. She was also attached to a project called "The Sweet Science", which seemed very interesting but never came to fruition (most likely due to the response to "Glitter"). "Wisegirls" never went anywhere outside of the Sundance circuit, even though it was an interesting project.

The role she took in "Tennessee" was solid and her role in "Precious" was small but interesting. I think she could get away with another attempt at making movies. Whitney did "Sparkle" pretty late in her career. Diana Ross did a few made for TV films in the 90s when she was in her 50s. It's still possible for Mariah to do something different if she wants to.
(Friday 7 March 2025; 15:11)
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Precious (108,317) by BFF from United States
I was also there in the 90s watching Mariah's career. Mariah was commercially successful in the 90s but not respected by the industry or by critics. It really all started when Nelson George referred to her as a "white girl trying to sing black" and also reverberated with the 1996 Grammys snub. I also remember Sandra Bernhardt directing some really racist statements at Mariah in the late 1990s (statements I won't repeat here because they are awful). It was never "cool" to like Mariah until very recently. I remember all of the thinly veiled homophobia that was directed at me during middle school and high school because I loved Mariah.

"The Bodyguard" has great songs on the soundtrack, but the film itself and the acting are not good at all. There was definitely a reason why the film had sat in development purgatory since the mid 1970s. It was originally intended for Diana Ross. I doubt that it would have been produced if Whitney hadn't been the huge star she was in the late 80s/early 90s. Whitney was good in "Waiting to Exhale", for sure, but that's as much due to Forest Whitaker's excellent job directing as it was due to Whitney's acting.

I believe "Glitter" could have done just as well as "The Bodyguard" if there hadn't been so much venom directed at Mariah in the late 1990s/early 2000s and if there hadn't been so many issues that Mariah had to deal with during the 1997-2001 period of her career.
(Thursday 6 March 2025; 12:32)
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Precious (108,315) by BFF from United States
Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner had *zero* chemistry in "The Bodyguard", and the songs she recorded were all written by other people except for "Queen of the Night".

"Glitter" is a superior project in every respect. Mariah's approach to acting was more endearing and humble than Whitney's. The chemistry with Max Beesley, though he wasn't the first choice for the role, was better. Mariah poured her heart and soul into the songs she wrote for the soundtrack. The only reason why people retrospectively think of "The Bodyguard" as better is because the soundtrack and film were very commercially successful. The film itself received poor reviews and is just incredibly dull in comparison to "Glitter", which took more risks.

I'm willing to fight the battle for "Glitter" because the way people rejected it, for me, symbolizes the way that people rejected Mariah in the 1990s.
(Thursday 6 March 2025; 00:56)
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Precious (108,312) by BFF from United States
I highly recommend that you watch "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee" in addition to "Precious" if you haven't. The roles that Mariah took in those movies are much more substantial and grittier than the parts in "Precious" and "The Butler", and they really allowed her acting talent to shine through. That song "Right to Dream" from "Tennessee" is just incredible.

I honestly think "Glitter" is worthy of reappraisal - I often wonder if substantial portions of the filmed scenes were cut out to get the PG-13 rating and to adjust for the fact that Tommy and J. Lo sabotaged the "Loverboy" single, which was an integral element of the movie's plot. They definitely had to add the new version of "Loverboy" in during post-production. To me, Mariah's almost "awkward" portrayal of Billie works well because it lends an honesty and authenticity to the insecurity Billie feels from being abandoned by her father and mother and how she feels as a mixed race person. You can tell that, like Mariah, Billie worries that the rug can be pulled out from under her at any moment.

She worked with a very non-mainstream director (Vondie Curtis-Hall), whose only other film credit at the time was "Gridlock'd" with Tupac Shakur and Tim Roth. She made very non-mainstream choices for which music from the 80s to focus on (R&B and club scene rather than pop). It seemed like all of the elements were there for something great and interesting. But the filming delays, the last minute pivot to the "Rainbow" album, the sabotage of the soundtrack, the delayed releases, Mariah's mental health struggles. It all felt so unfair to Mariah, and she just kept getting hit with poison darts left and right from basically 1998 to 2001. The reviews for "Glitter" were bad, but I think hardly anyone saw it (including critics). The film is definitely better than "The Bodyguard" in my opinion.
(Wednesday 5 March 2025; 15:20)
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The issue I have (108,297) by BFF from United States
I always thought Mariah's best interviews with were people like Donny Simpson, Craig Seymour, etc. The interviews she did with them always went beneath the surface and challenged Mariah to reveal different sides of herself.
(Saturday 1 March 2025; 16:06)
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Breakdown (108,292) by BFF from United States
It's like out lives are the Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton catalogues. Please make it stop.
(Saturday 1 March 2025; 00:43)
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Breakdown (108,288) by BFF from United States
So I've gone from singing "Lead the Way" to pumping "Breakdown" in the span of three weeks. Mariah really knows how to sing/write a song about emotionally unavailable men. I was getting all of these signals from him for weeks and this week all of a sudden it's like I've been iced out. I'm all up in my feelings.
(Friday 28 February 2025; 23:41)
Free music (108,281) by BFF from United States
Randy, your post reminds me of how many artists missed out on #1 records because their labels wouldn't issue CD Singles. "Torn" by Natalie Imbruglia, "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, "I'll Be There for You" by the Rembrandts, "Killing Me Softly" by The Fugees, "Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls, and the goes on.

Here's a full list of Airplay Only hits if you need it.
(Thursday 27 February 2025; 20:45)
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My All live performances (108,265) by BFF from United States
"Just one more night. Just one more niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight."
(Tuesday 25 February 2025; 00:47)
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