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Tori Kelly - AIWFCIY (96,978) by 123 from USA I would say this is the best original cover next to Shania Twain's cover back in the 90s. I love that she made it her own instead of trying the impossible by attempting to duplicate the original. Love this girl's riffs. You can tell she went to the school of Jazmine Sullivan and Kim Burrell. Love that Mariah gave her the rights to cover it. (Friday 18 December 2020; 16:03)

1995 Chart battle (96,977) by 123 from USA 95 was a crazy chart battle of the divas. Mariah came out swinging with a monster album. I didn't know how bad their labels were using them to compete with each other for chart dominance and bragging rights. For Janet to come out first and hit #1, only to be dethroned by Mariah with Fantasy for the #1 spot, only for Mariah to be knocked off the top spot by Whitney, and then for Whitney to be knocked off the top spot by Mariah and Boyz II Men. This MTV link from that year provides a nice overview. (Friday 18 December 2020; 15:54)

Sleigh Ride (96,893) by 123 from USA This was probably my favorite part of the special, probably because it's a mew song. She sounds so good. I love when she sings in her full mid voice and avoids whispers. No need for belts when your tone in full voice is so buttery. She adds a few slight inflections to pepper the delivery and throws in some whistles to add that wow factor. I love that when she gets off the sleigh the camera angle is no loner just on her "good side" Mariah never stares into the camera and moves around naturally and not once does she try to give a sexy look or pose. It's perfect. I love this fan made video. (Wednesday 9 December 2020; 20:03)

Re: Signal to MC (96,836) (96,842) by 123 from USA Mariah is well aware that working with artists of the day will help her chart. Anyone with a brain knows this. What people have failed to notice is, unless it's a Christmas project, the label ain't paying for an A list top tier artist to appear on her albums. They wouldn't pay for Cardi to jump on A No No. if you notice, Epic has only put money into anything Christmas related. They pull out all the stops and pour money and marketing into it because they have proven, guaranteed monetary returns. Caution was the first album that Mariah got an embarrassing low amount of support from the label and their budget for radio was restricted to AC stations only (no other radio formats were sent With You to even have the option to play) or Urban AC for A No No months after the project was released and already lost any kind of possible momentum. Had they put the money in and sent GTFO to all formats it would have made a splash and peaked interested because it was quite shocking to hear Mariah use a cuss word in a chorus and yet sound so good. I have a sneaking suspicion that either A, Ariana was a second choice to Kelly Clarkson who may have pulled out because of scheduling conflicts or B, because attaching her to a Christmas song was the only way the label would cough up money to pay for both Ariana and JHud and also get Apple TV to fund the video/performance. Not sure if this is a strategy for Mariah to prove to the label that if they pay for top tier collaborations, that they will make a nice profit in return. I'm hoping she gets success off this collaboration so that the label starts giving her the budget she needs for her next project, especially when it comes to radio promo and marketing. Mariah is not a streaming artist and needs to be played and pushed on major radio formats to see any type of future success along with a high profile feature. All she needs is one hit to get the funding and backing from the label that she deserves. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 23:58)

Re: Heroes / Hero / Joy To The World medley (96,781) (96,788) by 123 from USA I liked the new [Joy to the world] arrangement she did for that legendary intro. She's been singing it the same since 94 so I welcome the few little changes to it. We all know she pre-records (in caps) everything but not a big fan of the overuse of melodyne lately. Her tone sounds unnatural. Just do multiple takes Mariah and cut and paste your vocals. I'm fine with that. Full voice Mariah is always what I prefer then that airy whispery approach to took for the whole Hero part. (Friday 4 December 2020; 05:00)

Naomi Campbell interview (96,723) by 123 from USA This was good. I learned some new things I hadn't heard before and I love their friendship. I have a feeling the collaboration she is referring to is Drake but I wonder what song from the book he wants to sample? Here is the link. (Wednesday 25 November 2020; 06:19)

Re: Oh Santa! fun Ariana Grande and Jennifer Hudson (96,676) (96,678) by 123 from USA Hi Edward. She indicated in [Watch What Happens] live that she recorded a scratch demo and then had Mary Ann do one and send that out to Faith as she never sends out her own scratch demos. A fan had asked about the song and that was her answer. (Thursday 19 November 2020; 18:42)

Re: Cory Rooney (96,657) (96,661) by 123 from USA I'm shocked that he stepped forward to admit that he witnessed the knife incident, confirm what Mariah said in the book and then turn around and call her a liar. The tweet was posted a month ago only to be deleted. He threatened to reveal "the real truth" but so far it's been nothing but crickets. Someone in Cory's camp must have talked some sense into him by letting him know you can't justify placing a butter knife to someone's face. You can still do severe damage if it's directed to an eye or any orifice. He chose a side when their marriage was ending. Everyone sided with Tommy because he was the boss and the man with all the power. That's why she fired everyone on her team when they divorced so she could start fresh. Her career was never the same after that. The last few albums on Sony were a reflection of what happens when you go against the boss. Cory was then given to JLo and Walter to Celine. They were rewarded for their loyalty with artists Tommy wanted to promote and take Mariahs AC and Urban audience away from. (Wednesday 18 November 2020; 19:15)

Re: Stacey (96,637) (96,643) by 123 from USA Stacey, you have always been one of my favorite posters here. We share a mutual love for our favorite album Daydream (hence the profile pic from that era) and always bring a unique prospective. Praying for you and your spouse tonight. (Monday 16 November 2020; 06:11)

Re: Cory Rooney (96,573) (96,642) by 123 from USA Will I'm surprised you didn't see his response to the book. It answers two questions. The first, the reason why they don't work together anymore, and the second, he was one of the two people who witnessed the butter knife incident with Tommy. He went in on Mariah calling her a liar who has been lying about Tommy, JLo who he says has never done anything to her, and himself. I'm confused why he added himself into the mix because I can't recall her ever mentioning him at all. He paints a different picture saying Mariah was belittling Tommy at dinner and that instead of exploding he picked up his butter knife and "tapped it" on her cheek saying enough. Not sure how that shows restraint or how his response was ok even if it's true she was belittling him. My question is, if she was, what was the reason? I can't picture her walking in and belittling him in front of mixed company for no reason. He claims he is now going to let the real truth out only to delete the tweet later. I have a feeling Walter was the other witness. Here is a link to a pic of the tweet. (Monday 16 November 2020; 04:11)

Long Ago / This Love mash up (96,571) by 123 from USA For those that don't like the song, they should give this mash up a try. I've always loved Long Ago as it was one her her few album cuts the dipped deeper into the sophisticated r&b genre that last existed in the 90s. The lyrics have always been poetic to me and who doesn't love the way she sings, "I gave you my body and soul." I would have never thought of putting these two songs together but they fit like a glove. It gives the song new life. (Monday 9 November 2020; 06:51)

Re: I'm an actor daaahling (96,536) (96,537) by 123 from USA I have to disagree about Wise Girls. That was the only role she completely transformed into someone else. I forgot it was Mariah Carey I was watching. She needs more roles like that. Gritty roles that are the opposite of her public persona and in an ensemble cast where she is a supporting role. The butt grabbing scene was the best scene in the whole movie. (Wednesday 4 November 2020; 22:19)

Re: Lovecraft Country (96,303) (96,304) by 123 from USA It doesn't have anything to do with werewolf or twilight type stuff. I'm not into that either. It's Sci Fi. The title does give that impression though. A human give two androids 6 embryos to go to a far off planet to raise them to be atheists as he felt believers destroyed their world. One of the Androids is... special. It gets good when a ship of believers arrive and some spiritual stuff starts to happen where the atheists start to question their non faith. The one Android is no joke. (Friday 16 October 2020; 20:22)

Where I Belong (96,301) by 123 from USA The long awaited "Where I belong". (Friday 16 October 2020; 19:15)

Re: Lovecraft Country (96,286) (96,291) by 123 from USA Hey RibbonB. This is the website I use to watch both shows. (Friday 16 October 2020; 17:05)

Re: Lovecraft Country (96,272) (96,278) by 123 from USA I love this show. It's kind like a period piece mixed with Sci fi with black leads. I've been busy with work so I've only gotten to episode 4. I will have to binge watch this weekend. Have any of you seen "Raised by wolves"? It's my current addiction. I watch both shows on a website online for free if anyone wants the link. (Friday 16 October 2020; 02:02)

Re: What if (96,263) (96,275) by 123 from USA Edward. Now you are sounding ridiculous. That's the point, Mariah wouldn't have done that. Mariah could have still squeaked about a whistle note that night. She used to compensate with tons of whistle notes in 2005 when her upper register was lacking. She let out a whistle note in 99 even after Diana told her in rehearsal "you will not be hitting that note tonight" only to have the note edited out per Diana's request when the show re-aired for reruns. You see Mariah open her mouth and nothing comes out. Whitney wouldn't have stepped up to Aretha, her Godmother and the same lady who her mother sang backup for because she knows the rules. Respect your elders if you want to be part of the soul singer circle. I remember in a late 90s Whitney interview they said you are the biggest singer since Aretha. Whitney's was like "Oooh um don't tell Aretha that." She knew to respect Aretha and she didn't want any smoke from Aretha or her mother Cissy. It's not a race thing, it's respect. Mariah thought Celine should have stood down. Celine was defending Carole because Aretha sang over Carole and Celine's parts, so she took revenge and stepped up to Aretha. Are either of them are wrong? No. It's subjective. Mariah is ok to feel the way she does. Celine is ok if she felt she wanted to defend her friend. Neither are wrong but why is Mariah being crucified for feeling like you should respect those that came before you. And to say she overhang with her male counterparts. She's the soprano. She is supposed to sing the top notes/harmony. And why can't she include this in her book if she felt it important. It's cool if you guys are disillusioned with her, I'd respect you more if you left like Randy did. But to keep coming here just to keep the tone of this board so toxic is concerning. This is not normal. We get remixes, rarities, vinyls, a book that some of you hate, and looks like she isn't done. Let the rest of us that accept who and what she is in 2020 enjoy our little Mariah hobby. God Bless and hope some of you find some happiness in your lives. (Friday 16 October 2020; 01:04)

Re: Trash (96,095) (96,204) by 123 from USA Just to add a correction here on the Patti/Mariah diet. Patti didn’t drown out Mariah. She had Mariah's whistle note edited out of the performance. There is a non edited clip floating around. These older divas do not play. They demand respect or they will pull rank and have the producers edit the performance. The same thing happened in Divas 99. During rehearsal Mariah hit a whistle note when all the divas come out to sing together, only for Diana to turn around and tell Mariah, you won’t be hurting that note tonight. Mariah defied Diana during the live show and still hit the note since she was crucified for not singing more for the first Divas only for Diana to have the producers edit the note out. It’s an unwritten rule. You don't out sing the elder divas/artists or will suffer the consequences. The pic the divas took at the end of the first Divas Live said all that Aretha was feeling. She only posed with Mariah and Gloria, while poor Carole, Celine, and Shania were in the back. Petty, sure, but Aretha made her point, and so did Patti and Diana. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 17:33)

Re: Cool On You (96,177) (96,203) by 123 from USA "Kick rocks." "Eat dirt.". Love this song. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 17:04)

Re: Allure (96,186) (96,202) by 123 from USA I feel bad they weren't mentioned and to me this was really the start of her musical liberation. I read in an urban magazine at the time that Tommy shut the label down as the start of his plot to punish his billion dollar investment (oops I meant Mariah) for leaving him and escaping his grasp, even though they had a top 10 (Billboard Hot 100) hit with [All cried out]. Per the blind item, Mariah called every major label and offered to sign with them if they picked up the acts that were dropped from Crave. All her calls went unanswered as I'm sure Tommy sent Steve Stoute to threaten any label exec that dare interfere. This would have been a good story to tell in that princess chapter. I heard Allure went on the Wendy Williams radio show and when she mentioned it to Mariah, Mariah cut her off and changed the subject. I feel bad for the group. [They] signed with smaller labels but never got the push or material that they had access to when they were with Sony and faded away. (Wednesday 14 October 2020; 16:55)

Re: Promo / Mariah's biopic (95,890) (95,894) by 123 from USA So Mariah's team has been doing a great job with the roll out and promo. They sent the book to celebs including Bebe Rexa and Lee Daniels. Lee teases that Mariah is getting a movie. Sounds like he wants to be on the helm of that project. I wonder if this will be a mini series or go to the big screen? (Thursday 1 October 2020; 17:41)

ET rare moments (95,762) by 123 from USA So good. I wonder if Mariah has the full footage of some of these backstage performances and rehearsals. Of course they had to throw in a shady moment. Before I don't know her, there was "I didn't see her". Lol. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 01:57)

Mariah approved spoilers (95,759) by 123 from USA I love how Mariah will rename a whole project of someone else leaks it before she does. But as long as she does it, it's all fair game. Still not a fan of [Here we go round again] but those vocals are insane. Is she belting at the top of her register? Show off-lol. Lullaby of Birdland sounds so dreamy and it sounds like a proper studio recording. I told y'all Cool On You was hot. It screams hit, and no surprise since everything recorded for [E=MC2] was intended to be a single. It sounds more Daydream like than [E=MC2] and could have nestled quite nicely in between Long Ago and Melt Away. Don't go to her twitter if you are still trying to wait until the release date. The album isn't even out and it's already my new obsession. (Friday 25 September 2020; 21:29)

Re: Interview (95,734) (95,740) by 123 from USA Hi Billy from Greece. Here is a very low quality rip. Fyi, there are spoilers from the book in this interview. (Friday 25 September 2020; 05:16)

Re: Mariah is everywhere (95,714) (95,738) by 123 from USA Lambs on another board were flipping out that there was no promo outside of her social media but I knew they would wait until closer to the release date to start promo. The Oprah interview was good. I like that Oprah took Mariah to task when she tried to avoid one of her questions. Mariah can do this with other interviewers but she knew Oprah wasn’t going to let that one go. Dont watch it if you don’t want spoilers of the book. (Friday 25 September 2020; 01:04)

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