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About Bobby A from United States:
I have been a Lamb since 1990. I know Mariah. I love her music. I breathe her music.
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Article: Brother accuses Mariah of orchestrating YouTube video (108,471)
by Bobby A from United States
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Reading this article is just too much. I am on MC's side. Wasn't it after her book was released and Morgan's lawsuit that we found out MC's relationship with her mother had become strained? Prior to her book being released, MC was on good terms with her mother. Is that correct? I wonder if Morgan while visiting Patricia in Florida upset her about was in MC's book.
(Thursday 27 March 2025; 19:17)
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Article: Brother accuses Mariah of orchestrating YouTube video (108,468)
by Jamie from UK
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All this drama from Morgan and the late Alison. Surely it would have just been easier to stay friends with Mariah, I'm sure she wouldn't have seen them out of pocket. But no they wanted more and became greedy. Now they won't get a single penny from her. Must be awful when your own family sees you as a paycheque. Had they not gone down the path they have I'm sure they would have led a comfortable life courtesy of Mariah, but people always want more and more.
(Thursday 27 March 2025; 17:43)
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Buttery tone (108,455)
by Bobby A from United States
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I hear her buttery tone especially on Melt Away. I just never thought of her voice that way. I just said she was singing in her soprano voice or her alto voice switching bewteen the two voices.
(Thursday 27 March 2025; 00:15)
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Buttery tone (108,444)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, a "buttery" voice refers to a smooth, fluid, warm, and rounded vocal quality. Most of Mariah's '90s catalog is filled with it. Some examples, just to pick a few, include Vanishing, Till the End of Time, Can't Let Go, Music Box, Underneath the Stars, Lead the Way, Open Arms, Melt Away, and Everything Fades Away. Albums like Daydream, Music Box, Merry Christmas, and Butterfly are basically the epitome of a beautiful buttery voice.
Sadly, by 2002, only traces of that buttery voice were still there. And before some of y'all try to nail me to a cross next to Oprah and Gayle, I'm not saying she couldn't sing, she absolutely could still blow, but the fluidity and seamless transitions between registers just weren't the same. A lot of us complained about the heavy use of the whisper register on Charmbracelet, it's funny that I would take anything from her with even half that quality in a heartbeat.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 14:44)
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by Bobby A from United States
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I have a funny story here. I had a blind date on the day TEOM was released at record store in my car. I played TEOM while talking to the guy. Circles played next. The guy said to me when MC's voice sounded hoarse on "I just keep going round and round." My date said, "Mariah Carey sounds bad on this song." He never contacted me again and labeled me as pushy when I tried to defend MC and asked him if he wanted to go grab some lunch.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 21:36)
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Ribbon (108,446)
by BFF from United States
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I totally agree. "Circles", "Mine Again", and "Stay the Night" all sounded strained and that's why I never cared for those songs. "Joy Ride" was slightly better, but overall, the ballads on the album needed more work. I think "Sprung" should have made the main track listing - there is something so effervescent and joyful about it.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 16:27)
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Buttery tone (108,438)
by Bobby A from United States
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Which MC songs have that buttery tone? I am having a hard time understanding what some of the board say that MC has a buttery tone. Could MC's short cover of Faith Evan's Soon As I Get Home demonstrate her buttery tone? I love that short song cover. She sings it pitch perfect and beautifully.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 11:31)
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Mariah birthday month (108,437)
by Bobby A from United States
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I love I Don't Wanna Cry. It is my favorite because listening to it reminds me of spring.
(Wednesday 26 March 2025; 08:50)
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Mariah birthday month (108,433)
by Jamie from UK
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Ok it's approaching Mariah's birthday, or anniversary as she likes to call it. I've looked through her discography to see which singles whether physical, digital or just radio got a March release date. There wasn't many. I Don't Wanna Cry, March 19th 1991 The Roof (Back In Time), March 16th 1998 (UK) We Belong Together, March 15th 2005 Fly Like A Bird, March 13th 2006 A No No, March 4th 2019 Big Energy Remix, March 28th 2022 Out of all her March releases, which is your number one favourite? Mine is The Roof (Back In Time).
(Tuesday 25 March 2025; 18:45)
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Emancipation & Daydream (108,420)
by Bobby A from United States
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Let me jump in this great topic.
Stay The Night/Fly Like A Bird
Fantasy/When I Saw You
(Tuesday 25 March 2025; 04:30)
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Emancipation & Daydream (108,414)
by Jamie from UK
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Ok while it's the 20th Anniversary of Mimi and 30th Anniversary of Daydream. Choose your two favourite songs from each album. Mine are: We Belong Together/Get Your Number Fantasy/Looking In I'm interested to hear people's choices and thought I'd bring some fun to the board.
(Monday 24 March 2025; 18:14)
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Ribbon (108,409)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think Ribbon is the best song that MC, The-Dream and Tricky Stewart have ever written together. The song is probably a favorite among Dream fans. Plus adding Ludacris on the remix was genius by MC. By the way, I am wondering if Angels Advocate will ever get an official release one day.
(Sunday 23 March 2025; 23:40)
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Just makin' the most of life (108,402)
by Bobby A from United States
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Jamie, your post is spot on. Where will MC be in 2026? I believe the nostaglia is going to fade soon without some type of new project. She is going to need to release some type of project next year. Maybe not a new album, but some type of compliation project with something from her vault. MC is a legend who can break the internet with the right complilation and goodies included. I am thinking about something like what Garth Brooks did with Wal-Mart to sell his first ever anthology boxset. I am still in awe of everything she has accomplished in her career. Give me one of her remixes on a new vinyl pressing and I am a very happy queen.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 22:00)
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Just makin' the most of life (108,399)
by Jamie from UK
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The reason she is still relevant and receiving icon awards is because of her early career, those days influenced everything and everyone. If none of that had happened and she came out as she is now I'm afraid she wouldn't be getting and awards. We're nostalgic because she was amazing then, we lived through it and we miss it. None of us are saying she isn't relevant anymore as a person, but music career wise unfortunately no is buying her new stuff. Even her Christmas mania is based on an early period of her career, and let me guess when that was, oh yes its the time we're all nostalgic about. Mariah is a legend and she's reached icon status but it's not for her current music career, unfortunately it's her past.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 09:36)
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Moderator (108,397)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. We have one already - Eric. Who knew that MC's first televised appearance of 2025 could cause so many different perspectives about the state of her career. MC should have prepared us more about what she dealt with during the recording of Caution during her Genius interview. That was the perfect interview for her to come clean about everything that we definitely know now. Caution wasn't rushed. MC just couldn't do vocally with Caution what she was used to doing in the studio. Ten songs was all she could do in the studio because vocally she just couldn't do more. That is just my perspective this week after coming to the conclusion why there is no new album seven years later.
(Saturday 22 March 2025; 01:49)
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Moderator (108,396)
by Steven Berning from USA
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This board needs a moderator.
(Friday 21 March 2025; 20:59)
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Just makin' the most of life (108,388)
by Bobby A from United States
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Boy, you have sum up MC's career in one post. It is not that we are stuck in the past, but we merely miss the old MC who gave a damn about giving 100%. MC spoiled us in the beginning with her perfectionist attitude about her career, songs, and performances. I miss that MC. I miss the studio pics. I miss MC working with the current hottest R&B producer. Mike Will Made It, Dev Hynes, and Danja were all in awe what she brought to table during the songwriting sessions. I miss the excitement waiting for MC to reveal new music was dropping on a certain date. I want the MC back who wrote her most playful lyrics of her career in 2005 with ILT.
(Friday 21 March 2025; 01:58)
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Just makin' the most of life (108,385)
by Boy from The Netherlands
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Pfff, you guys are so nostalgic and stuck in the past. What's with this boomer mentality? It's 2025, and you're still rambling about American Idol, Nicki this, Nicki that, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Jewel something like be for real. Yeah, maybe the average 40+ person would mention them but today's main pop girls are Charli, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor, Billie, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. And guess what? Mariah is still more relevant than ever.
Even Miley Cyrus just gave Mariah her flowers, while Celine Dion (love her though) showed up and got no recognition from Taylor on stage. That's the industry it picks and chooses who it respects. But Mariah? She doesn't need that validation anymore. Billboard literally just named her the #1 pre-2000s female artist of the 21st century, and #12 overall. These aren't just opinions or some delusional fan made resume these are some serious facts.
And this whole "Mariah needs to be serious" mentality. You just want Hero Mariah just like Tommy did. But she was never just that girl. She loves the hood, she's camp, she's extra, and she's always been the dramatic woman we saw in Mariah's World. It's wild how so many of you refuse to see the bigger picture Mariah isn't just a pop star, she's an institution in pop culture.
She can't reverse her age, physical condition, or mental state, nobody can. Even Beyoncé the queen of perfection isn't selling like she used to and still gets called overrated. Madonna? People call her a grandma on stage. Taylor? Gets dragged for her dancing. The whole "perfect pop star" image is a 90s corporate fantasy. Pop culture, audiences, and marketing have evolved y'all just refuse to evolve with it.
And let's talk relevance. Mariah can show up at an award show, turn her head to the left, and it's an instant viral meme. Since the NYE disaster, she's been more relevant than ever. Yeah, people associate her with Christmas, but they also respect the hustle. She's so "irrelevant" that she keeps collecting Icon Awards left and right.
And about Mariah being a "ditzy diva who lost track of reality"? I love Wendy Williams, but we all saw how that ended. For someone who supposedly doesn't have it together, Mariah is still living life on her own terms, blowing her money as she pleases, and not under a conservatorship. That alone is a win in my book.
And honestly, people need to realize that she's just a 50 year old, half a billion dollar worth rich woman living her best life on yachts cruising the coast of Capri in the winter. She is completely unbothered. She doesn't care about you, me, or whatever is happening online. Her career doesn't define her anymore, it hasn't for a long time. She collects her checks, enjoys her sparkling drinks, and keeps it moving. So why are you stressing yourself out over it?
Do I cringe sometimes at the diva act? Sure. Do I wish she had more energy? Maybe. But am I gonna sit here writing an essay about how she supposedly became an "unserious" artist? No. If you're so obsessed with nostalgic Mariah, go watch old performances on YouTube. But free yourself from this toxic outdated way of thinking. She's still here, still winning, and still making history whether you like it or not.
(Thursday 20 March 2025; 23:07)
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Article: Mariah and Anderson Paak are breaking hearts together (108,384)
by Bobby A from United States
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This article made me smile. It must be a good feeling for MC to finally experience chivarly from a man who clearly understands courtship. I am happy Anderson is in her life. She needs someone who understands her and the whole music industry. Anderson clearly gets MC. I just wonder has MC told him everything that has happened since the Caution era. I am playing Leave the Door Open now. Lol. His vocals are so good.
(Thursday 20 March 2025; 15:03)
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Mariah the wonderful human (108,378)
by Bobby A from United States
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I came to that realization on Valentine Day when MC didn't make a new music annoucement after her Vegas shows. Shezz, have you noticed that Nostradamus hasn't made hardly any MC new music tweets this year?
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 21:26)
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Mariah the wonderful human (108,371)
by Shezz from Pk
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I agree. Was it the best speech? No. She is clearly going through some problems and if she would rather have a little bit of fun and be a little ditsy rather than give an inspirational speech, so be it. Maybe she doesn't have it in her at this point to do so. I think her work is far more powerful to be brought down by a speech. I don't think that people who were disappointed by her speech should not comment and move on. Clearly they still love her and want her to shine. What is the point of a messageboard if you can't read a mix of opinions? I personally feel the world tears her down enough, but I understand when others want more. I'm not being a yass queen but I don't think her speech was catastrophic.
Health and happiness to MC and the board. Chin up Bobby, she may not give us another album but we'll get something from her this year.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 11:33)
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I don't Heart (108,377)
by Bobby A from United States
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Anderson Paak is a fine looking gentleman, though. Maybe he is using his connections in the industry to help MC get her voice back. If anybody can get MC to think about having vocal surgery, it is Anderson Paak. He is definitely standing by her side showing he cares about MC.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 21:19)
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I don't Heart (108,368)
by Brad from USA
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Not sure what last night represented for MC or her career at the iHeart Awards. I don't love it at all though. In any which way. She came across as under the influence of something. The only poignant moment re her mom was another pained expression on her face that seemed detached from reality and lost in space. If this is what Mr Paak brings then he can paak and go. She and her children don't need this influence. At a time when she should be showcasing her impact and significance she comes across as zany, addicted, self-absorbed and irrelevant. Not even a word of offering hope and persistence to so many hurting in this horrible world we are in. Nothing. And I don't think there is any new album or material at all. I think it's all over and she knows it. All she has is a little bit of Christmas and that's it. It's over.
(Tuesday 18 March 2025; 22:56)
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I don't Heart (108,372)
by Bobby A from United States
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I need to say this out of love and concern for MC. What is it going to take for MC to let the Lambs know what is going on? I hope she doesn't wait again until there is a threat of a leak to the media. Something is not right with MC. If she let us know on her own terms, then it would be better for her in the long-term. Five years from now and no new album is going to be devasting to her career. Have you noticed that she doesn't mention anymore about working on new music? Listening to Chris Brown's Residuals on the radio makes me miss hearing MC on the radio.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 11:49)
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I don't Heart (108,370)
by Jamie from UK
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I totally agree and something isn't right with her. The only thing that night gave me was the realisation how good Mariah was, those two singers came no where close to the we way she sang those songs. Maybe [you're] right, her realisation of how good she was is maybe getting to her and she knows it's over. Maybe that's the whole problem.
(Wednesday 19 March 2025; 01:44)
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I am trying (108,362)
by Bobby A from United States
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Randy, MC has lost the one thing that grounded her and made people love to hear give interviews and speeches. Her voice was her passion. She doesn't have it anymore to command the stage in any setting.
(Tuesday 18 March 2025; 16:21)
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I am trying (108,361)
by Randy from USA
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People have called me evil, a monster and Satan on this board for years. I really said I would start being more positive once I realized what we do to our superstars i.e Whitney, Prince and Michael. But when I saw MC talk about the lighting and her ensemble at the beginning of her speech last night, I was devastated. At a time I'm trying to make everyone around me take her, her catalogue and artistry seriously for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame vote, I just felt like a fool. And what burned me up even most was all the 'Yass queen, slay' in the YouTube comments. Do they know the genius that once resided in that hollow shell? I'm tryna get people to take her as seriously as Joni Mitchell because I really believe in her talent that much. I have to wonder was she high or drunk last night. I just feel so stupid for blaming Stella for that era or Jermaine Dupri for MIAMTEC's rollout. A lot of Mariah's problem is Mariah. Get some help. PS I did enjoy her mentioning Pat. Oh and I guess she and Anderson Paak are a thing. Eric where's the barf emoji?
(Tuesday 18 March 2025; 15:20)
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Some things will always stay with MC (108,360)
by Bobby A from United States
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Is the lighting okay? Lol. She will never forget about what someone said to her 35 years ago. Or is MC just poking fun at her own insecurities? Also she hasn't use the word ensemble in a long time. I loved the beautiful gown, but why can't she just wear a dress that doesn't require help walking around.
(Tuesday 18 March 2025; 09:36)
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In The Mix (108,356)
by Bobby A from United States
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I love this song. Tonight 8pm Eastern on Fox the world will recognize our MC.
(Monday 17 March 2025; 23:11)
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Always Be My Nodules (108,353)
by Bobby A from United States
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Is this an accurate commentary about MC and why she has lost her voice?
(Monday 17 March 2025; 00:53)
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Always Be My Nodules (108,351)
by Edward from USA
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I think that's the reason why Mariah has probably never gone through with surgery to get those phuckers out. Her voice is literally her whole identity and legacy, and losing the whistle would be a huge blow, considering that's the last trick she has under her skirt. She may not always sound great, but the second she hits a whistle note, the crowd eats it up.
One thing we can say for sure though is that the whistle as we knew it is already gone. And even if surgery could help her overall voice, the recovery would mean strict vocal rehab and actual discipline, but that's not exactly one of Mariah's strengths. More than a whistle here and there, I do miss that buttery and effortless tone she used to have. When she could just sing without worrying about every note. That's what I miss the most.
(Sunday 16 March 2025; 17:21)
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MC in L.A. (108,352)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC is really looking gorgeous in this picture out in L.A. A new promo is saying she is going to perform.
(Monday 17 March 2025; 00:48)
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Always Be My Nodules (108,349)
by Bobby A from United States
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Wow. I didn't know about Monica's vocal problems. I wondered why she sounded so bad on her song Trenches in 2020. She was dealing with vocal nodules back then, but hadn't received a diagnosis.
(Sunday 16 March 2025; 03:13)
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Always Be My Nodules (108,348)
by Randy from USA
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So, I'm doing some insomniac strolling through social media, and I see a video of Monica talking about why she has sounded a mess as of late. She had surgery and went back to singing and didn't listen to her doctor's instructions. I did some digging and found out she had surgery on her nodules. My jaw was as wide as Kelly Price's at Thanksgiving. Monica had been sounding awful according to clips I saw on Tik Tok and I just passed it off as maybe she wasn't as talented as I once thought. I even went so far as to declare the boy now belonging to Brandy. Monica is of little consequence to me because she was never vocally on MC, Celine or Whitney's level. But what this means for MC speaks volumes. Maybe she heard about the risk and was like "Nah, I'm good." What if they told her she could lose her whistle? That's part of her brand now. Although, side note, I'd rather the high chest belts more than the whistle. She uses that as a crutch to prove she still has "it". She now whistles more than a thousand gay tea kettles in London. But seriously, Monica was talking about a four month rehab and recovery. We all know discipline is the arch-nemesis of Mariah Carey. Even if she had the surgery, you think she would listen to instructions? I really want y'all to weigh in on this. Not you Kelly Price. I just can hear MC singing to her nodules, "You'll always be a part of me."
(Saturday 15 March 2025; 17:26)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,345)
by Bobby A from United States
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I understand. I know your perspective was speaking to all in general terms. No worries here BFF. The tone in my writing style comes off as overly sensitive. I try not to take things so personal, but it comes out at times in my posts. Plus, my dysgraphia has really shown up a lot in my posts during the past week from stress. I say the words in my mind, but I don't type them. So, all is good on this beautiful Friday. I got to take a step back this weekend and forget my job while on vacation. I understand now how MC felt on American Idol being in a toxic workplace.
(Friday 14 March 2025; 09:12)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,344)
by BFF from United States
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Robert Anthony, I hope you know that my post was not directed against you but all of the people who have been so cruel to Mariah throughout the years. It really feels personal when people are so mean and disrespectful to her. I felt it when people made fun of made for loving her in childhood, adolescence and adulthood. You just wonder when people will embrace her for the truly great, international, boundary-breaking artist that she is.
(Friday 14 March 2025; 00:04)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,343)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Randy. What is it about a pear, though? I come here to take my mind off my stressful job this year. I am just mentally drained teaching in this affluent school. It is not the students, but the so called professional adults and demanding parents that I work with. Sometimes my posts are result of how hard my day was and how much I can't wait until May 23rd to free myself from this school. I understand how MC felt when Virgin wouldn't let her alone during the promotion of Glitter. Anyway, I hope MC is showered with love and praise on March 17th when she receives her iHeart Radio recognition.
(Thursday 13 March 2025; 08:40)
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Rock and Troll Hall of Fame (108,342)
by Randy from USA
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Robert grow a pair. You are the balance this board needs. Do not pay attention to whoever that said whatever. I haven't paid attention to her since she used to be popular. I used to say all the time we need you, Terna, jacker20 to balance the equation. My job, and when Andrew was here's job was to unbalance it. Anyway, to bring us to all back on point, I don't mind MC being last out of Mary, Madonna, Janet and Whitney. I mind the constant rejection, if it happens again. I could care less she married the Svengali that discovered her, that her live performances are as inconsistent as JLo's love life or that she'd rather appear a ditz obsessed with lighting than a living legend. MC is the best singer songwriter combination of all time. She has the record sales, lyrics, melodies and fans to prove it. This industry is biased against her and it shows. PS this is an industry that has given Britney Spears and Nicki Minaj MTVs Video Vanguard award before Paula Abdul, who hasn't received it. Think about that.
(Thursday 13 March 2025; 01:14)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,339)
by Bobby A from United States
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My post was not meant to disrepect MC. I was thinking outside of the box again. I will stop thinking so much. There will be positivity from now on.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 14:05)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,338)
by BFF from United States
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Mariah has collaborated with a diverse range of artists as well. She's recorded songs and sang live with Luther Vandross, Whitney Houston, Luciano Pavarotti, Boyz II Men, Aretha Franklin, Carole King, Babyface, ODB, Rick James, Eric Benet, Jay-Z, Willie Nelson, and the list goes on. I'm telling you, people disrespect Mariah out of spite for all of the reasons Randy and I elaborated upon in our posts.
(Wednesday 12 March 2025; 11:39)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,336)
by Bobby A from United States
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I have been trying to think of one reason why MJB was inducted last year. MJB has collaborated with a diverse group of artists like U2, Elton John, Sting, Ray Charles, and George Michael. MC's career has been lacking in that area by no fault of her own. Timing and personal reasons just got in MC's way to collaborate with more diverse artists.
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Are you kidding me? If it isn't her image, then it is her performances. She must be doing right if she is singing at King Charles' residence. You will never see MJB singing there or in China Mary was literally groveling to Taylor Swift.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 19:01)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,333)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC commanding the stage is something that Tommy could have done to help [nurture] in MC. He could have easily hired a great performer like Quincy Jones to help MC with her stage presence. MC would have listened, but he wanted to keep her underneath a glass jar and not become too big of a performer. That is one thing that he could have done better for MC's career. Anyway, I hope she wins the nomination this time. MC needs a huge interview or philanthropic event right now to make the media talk about her to increase votes.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 11:56)
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,332)
by Brandon from USA
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Randy, I 100 percent agree with [you]. However, Mary, Janet, Whitney and Madonna (Celine as well) all take their artistry seriously, which includes being respected performers/entertainers. They are all confident in their craft, put the work in and it shows in their performances. They present themselves as confident artists to be taken seriously in their interviews. They command respect on the stage whether you like their music or not. Mariah has never mastered the art of performing and always presents herself as insecure. While MC has the record sales, she does not have the same respect on the stage which is why it has taken so long for her to be added to the RRHF. MJB is not a great singer and is often off key, but she gives her all whenever she performs. MC has been on autopilot for many years now unfortunately.
(Tuesday 11 March 2025; 05:10)
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