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Re: Stella: A 360 view (70,893) (70,894) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines So true. The lines are too blurred. Makes you wonder exactly how much Mariah saves as her current team is practically a multi-tasking one-stop shop - none of whom apparently have never heard of the word "boundaries" before. (Friday 6 January 2017; 10:46)

Stella: A 360 view (70,893) by Marissa from USA One of the biggest issues lambs have with Stella is that she has become Mariah's PR person, whether officially or unofficially. What happened to having a PR person that gave politically correct, professional statements to the public? Since when does a manager double as PR, especially one as crass and belligerent as Stella? This whole all-purpose job role irrespective of her weaknesses has got to go. If she just managed and that's it (no interviews, no TV roles, no obnoxious Instagram posts), I think most people would find her at least slightly tolerable. The only reason lambs immediately dragged Stella after NYE was because she's constantly shoved herself down our throats by chasing fame, so we knew exactly where to look when shit popped off. In an interview she said that she came on the scene only because she wanted to help Mariah extend her brand into different areas beyond music. Dealing with Mariah's music career was just a necessary evil, so it's not surprising that music has been neglected during this entire era. Her intention was never to boost MC's music career and she's admitted that herself, but that's the issue. She's more passionate about dragging MC into TV than she is about helping her dominate music, the reason why we became fans in the first place. Without these TV and movie projects, Stella's irrelevant and out of her league, so she has to keep MC booked with side-projects so she looks like she's indispensable. The bottom line is that MC can't do anything as well as she can sing and songwrite. No one is checking for her directing, producing or acting besides a few lambs, and if you suggest any of these things to the general public they usually just laugh. The running theme in MC's camp is people biting off more than they can chew in their roles. A TV producer managing music, a 13 year old managing social media, a dancer doubling as a boyfriend. The lines are too blurred. I do think that Stella has leadership qualities and could do someone good as their manager, just no musicians, especially not of Mariah's caliber because she doesn't know shit about music or tact. I think she'd be a good manager for a person who's only a reality star, because all of the antics she starts could easily be spun for ratings. She does know how to boost a person's relevance at all costs, but she doesn't get that that formula only truly benefits people who have nothing to lose, not legends. If someone like Kim K goes from being in a sex tape to having her own show, game, stores, etc. that's a come up because she didn't have shit to begin with. If Mariah goes from having 18 #1 hits, a flawless voice and 200+ million records sold to forcing her backup dancer to pick her up and kiss her on the beach for staged photos, that's an L. (Friday 6 January 2017; 9:41)

Re: Billy (70,892) by Nikki from usa Mariah couldn't have done that. She was deaf, not confused about her lyrics. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:47)

Really Tommy? Stella shush, MC's recovery (70,891) by Nikki from usa That's funny coming from a guy who tried ruining her career. However, not only is he right, but it's nothing different than most of us on this board have been saying for awhile now. I appreciate MC willing to give people a shot and not firing at the first mistake, but you need to surround yourself with people qualified to do their jobs if you don't want to do their jobs for them. I thought she learned that lesson from Glitter. Everyone but one actor had ever acted before and the director only had 2 movies under his belt. I'm sure Stella came at a time when MC was down and she got used to the family moment. Even if Mariah thinks Stella might not be her best option now, I'm wondering if Stella knows to much for MC to risk letting her go. Simply because Stella loves drama. Maybe help give Stella her own reality show to keep her busy and only keep her around for anything not to do with music or management parts of career. If you want to hear what Mariah would sound like "winging it" than check out the 2014 debacle - that's Mariah singing deaf. She was off and on. That's why you can't sing as a professional singer while deaf. After that she's done over 100 great performances to redeem herself, but the gp doesn't notice. Because, Mariah's recovery has to be as grand and exposed as her fall. Mariah should open a major worldwide televised event with all the live if not acoustic bells and whistles completely by surprise when nobody knew she was even going to perform there. This was another Glitter moment, time to TEOM this s**t. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:46)

Let's move on, make it work PR Team (70,890) by Ethan from United States The only one thing to redeem the NYE's performance is the PR team needs to get Mariah perform live (at least 75% of it) at the Grammys this year, paying tribute to Prince and/or George Michael. Good luck Stellaif you're reading this. On than that, I'll see her on tour with Lionel Richie this spring. I can't wait for the ballads and Endless Love. Anyway, either way she's getting media coverage. (Friday 6 January 2017; 8:39)

Tommy (70,889) by darrian liu from taiwan His message for Mariah is solid. Perhaps once more she should do what Tommy tells her to do, just one last time. It would serve her greatly. (Friday 6 January 2017; 6:49)

Maybe we can contact Nick Cannon (70,888) by DreamLove from USA I was thinking about how we can reach Mariah Carey to tell her how we feel about her manager/team. We know we can't say anything to her via social media because Stella has all of that on lock and probably all the fan letters too. I know Nick Cannon might not have direct access to his stuff but enough letters/messages might make its way to him and he might say something to her (maybe). Should we write Brett Ratner, Randy Jackson, Da Brat? What as fans can we do to get our message across about Stella? Any suggestions? (Friday 6 January 2017; 5:57)

Tommy vs Stella (70,887) by tadatorao from japan Mariah has claimed for years that Tommy has controlled and imprisoned her. I hope she would soon realize Stella is doing the same to her, just on a more abusive, hyprocritic and devastating level. (Friday 6 January 2017; 5:53)

Re: Mariah the psychic (70,873) (70,886) by Dennis from Miami, FL After reading Tommy's statemen I can't get Subtle Invitation out of my head. Tommy is making Mariah a subtle invitation "If she hurts you or misleads you all you need to do is call me." And part about Stella is "She's a damn fool." (Friday 6 January 2017; 3:26)

Trending (70,885) by G.G. from USA With all the backlash Stella is getting right now for her unprofessional, self serving behaviour, this is the time to make it happen. We need to get #firestella trending on Twitter and Instagram. Maybe, making a well publicized fuss about Stella at this specific time will open Mariah's eyes. (Friday 6 January 2017; 2:49)

Mariah Carey's legacy in critical condition (70,884) by Jono from USA I've allowed a few days since the debacle to process my thoughts. But basically I have this to say: not just her career, but her legacy is in critical condition. When Mariah had issues in the past, whether they be personal or professional, there was never a doubt that she couldn't sing. All it took was that one hit or performance for people to remember what she could do. But now, the very thing that made her famous is now the very thing that is destroying her. The irony is apparent. She has reached a crossroads in her life where she decides which direction to go. If anyone finds the humble girl who put her music above everything else, please let her know she is dearly missed. I just want to leave this right here, which is interesting considering where we are now with her. (Friday 6 January 2017; 0:55)

NYE performance (70,883) by Billy from England, UK Mariah should have done this. (Friday 6 January 2017; 0:16)

Stella hungry for fame article (70,882) by Shezz from Pk Haha I wonder who Page Six spoke to. Danielle? Anthony? Funny how it says exactly what we have been saying and speculating. She's in too deep with Stella. Ribbon I totally agree to keep Stella to manage Mariah's tv/movie projects and get someone else for music (though it seems like she wants to take a break from it for now and focus on these other projects which frankly she has been talking about pre Stella). (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:40)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,871) (70,881) by Lila from United States Let's dead this conversation because I have no time for lies and fallacies. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:31)

Where will she go from here? (70,880) by Tijl from Belgium After a truly fantastic celebration of the New Year there was definite backlash upon reading what had happened across the Atlantic. Both cringeworthy and tragic, the NYE incident is exactly what needed to happen to Mariah, especially since she didn't take a lesson from the Rockefeller performance two years earlier. I honestly adore and love this woman but over the last year my admiration has cooled down considerably as her attributions have been focused merely on sideprojects than on music, the latest tour as an exception. The reactions in the media are blown out of proportion as I do believe there have been technical mishaps on stage that night. However her reputation is now completely covered with - glittery - mud if not shot to hell. My thoughts are with her and I pray she will make some much needed and intelligent decisions to save and redeem her career. Mariah, I beg you: - Get rid of the Russian general as she is not considering your career but merely hers. - Take some time off and step away from endorsements, don't do interviews or anything. Get under the radar and build up some mystery and prepare for a truly amazing comeback. - Get back to your inner soul and do what you do best: writing inspirational music that you sing from from the heart. - Become the butterfly you are and understand how beautiful you are. No need to give up the ensembles but dahling you would blow everybody away in some proper couture. I enjoy ya, appreciate ya and luv ya but Mimi, it's time for a real emancipation. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:29)

Wow - this article (70,879) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago I don't think I've ever read an article as fair or as on point as this. I hope it finds its way to her. I just tweeted it, but we know how that goes. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 23:08)

I want to know (70,878) by Dennis from Miami, FL Dear webmaster, just for fun, I ask you to confirm or deny only. Do the Stella defenders have US IPs? It's getting more and more bizarre how they kiss each other's behinds. [Webmaster: I know their ip-numbers, but I don't know where they come from. I was thinking the same. Maybe I should have a new emoticon of kissing asses.] (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:58)

Re: Stella's backlash (70,840) (70,877) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin But she could be even worse to keep her plus she definetely has a confidentially agreement. And also she already has gotten what she wanted. We all know her now. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:56)

Re: Tommy Mottola (70,866) (70,876) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin You are so right, Stella yes defends her but with such a bad manner that sometimes would be better not to. Mariah in the past was always keeping it classy as well her reps. Now Stella goes out all furious or upset talking in a way that ends up being embarassing and definetely not respectable. She talks more like an desperate housewife with low class than then manager of one of the greatest and most succesful artists, a living legend, that she should. But Mariah seems to trust her blindly. Hopefully she will realize soon. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:47)

Re: Tommy has a point (70,867) (70,875) by MusicfanJ from Germany I was watching a TV-special about the 90ies. Mariah was praised for that period. The last comment was that now she's only known for being a diva and that James Packer "debacle". Mariah is too precious as a "brand" and too talented for that horrible management she has now. Like Bill on this board said, just watch the Daydream tour, listen to her best songs, the remixes, her whole music catalogue and then take a look at the reality show created by Stella. It's unbelievable, like a nightmare. I have never seen a person less professional. (The vulgar comments from her.) I was shocked. If that is Mariah's goal: bravo. Mariah's career is too big and unique to get to this level. I wish Mariah would think about the comment from Tommy. What must happen that she is realizing something has to change? We love Mariah and that's the reason we all care and want the best things to happen. I'm so fed up with the latest "headlines". And with the circus MC is surrounded with. I have to calm down but Mr. Mottola hit the nerve. To quote MC: I still believe that every after storm a rainbow appears. Well it's a big storm. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:45)

Re: Tommy has a point (70,867) (70,874) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin Never liked Tommy and sure Mariah had suffered next to him, but apart from their personal relationship he knows the bussines inside out and sure he admires Mariah. I don't think that at this point he likes seeing her suffer through that mess and in his message he is actually supporting her and defending her he is just stating the obvious. This could happen to anyone but an artist like Mariah should have a team that would minimize the chances and be able to protect her. All those months Mariah has been unprotected whenever something goes wrong she stayes exposed. Her team (Stella and co) should have made sure that the tech part is on point or even push to cut for commercial or even after to deal with the crisis and a mess in a more respectable way and not with statements against DC including the F word etc etc. But we are talking about the same team that let here be late on a concert because they didnt know the time differance. Her public image hasn't been protected and definitely her integrity has been even more damaged since Stella, because she seems either not to know how to deal with or she just belives that all those gossip and cheap publicity is good but Mariah is not Kim Kardashian or a new artist that needs that kind of exposure. She went to Sony and they made some great moves to restore her image and then Stella came to let her exposed to the media so they can cut her in peaced every second week. So yes Tommy is saying just the obvious Mariah deserves a team of professionals not a kindergarden. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:40)

Mariah the psychic (70,873) by Lara from Middle East Some of her songs' lyrics are kind of psychic. "You're so Cold" could work for Tommy , "Love story" with Nick, "Thirsty" for Stella and Tanaka, "Clown" for her actual self. Let me know if you have other suggestions. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:38)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,871) (70,872) by Edward from USA Nick and Mariah are friends, and seem to be co-parenting very well. Only they know what happened between them, the rest is pure speculation. Mariah wasn't a damsel in distress when Nick met her, she was a grown ass woman, even older than Nick and very well seasoned. Listening to his version of the way they were when they were a couple is as interesting as listening to Mariah and her alleged diss songs. The truth is usually right in the middle. So, there's nobody to demonize here, they got into it, they were happily married for six years, and they ended it. It takes two to tango. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:37)

Re: Blind Gossip article (70,848) (70,871) by Dennis from Miami, FL Nick caught Mariah in her insecure moment and abused her. I don't say it's the universal truth. That is what my experience is telling me. I wanted to say more, but I don't want to talk about another artist. (Thursday 5 January 2017; 22:08)

Re: Article: Tommy Mottola says ex-wife Mariah Carey needs help (70,859) (70,870) by Edouard from France Totally agree with you Betty . (Thursday 5 January 2017; 21:26)

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