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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,864) by Stacey from USA
Well said. I watched that scene where she's having a seizure. Heartbreaking.
(Thursday 11 July 2024; 04:18)
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Specific lyric on Obsessed (106,863) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
Wow. It's really difficult to guess what she's saying there exactly. I really don't know. Also, doesn't she say "You love me, you love me..." instead of "You like me"?
(Thursday 11 July 2024; 01:15)
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Specific lyric on Obsessed (106,862) by Chris from United States
Always thought it was "But I can't do nothin' for 'em."
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 21:32)
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Specific lyric on Obsessed (106,861) by Robert-Anthony from United States
MC said, "Like I can't control nothing."
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 21:03)
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Specific lyric on Obsessed (106,860) by Randy from USA
Since it's kinda quiet, on the Gucci Mane version of Obsessed, probably the original version too, there is an adlib I cannot understand and it's bothered me for years. She says "He's all up in my George Foreman." Then there's some more singing and then she repeats "He's all up in my George Foreman." And she starts "But I-' I can't for the life of me figure out what she's saying. It's before she says "You like me. You like me. You really really like me" as the song fades. The lyric sites are saying, she is saying, "But I can't do nothing for him." That is not what she's saying. Anybody have any ideas?
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 20:20)
May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,859) by Shezz from Pk
I agree on some points for sure. It is a business after all. Maybe she wanted to share her story with the world, maybe her label/company pressured her to. No doubt it will benefit her career somewhat, whatever the underlying motive was. The fact that she wanted cameras to capture her suffering. Hmm. Mariah would never do that for sure. All the best to Celine though, I hope she recovers fully and tours again soon.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 15:35)
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Holiday (106,858) by Jamie from UK
Good spot. I was in a cafe Sunday and Hero came on. Seems to be hearing her a lot at the moment out and about.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 09:24)
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Lucky Daye (106,857) by Jamie from UK
I hope those rumours are true. We defo need an original song from Mariah and Ariana. And yes whilst she is all about Christmas it does now restrict her release dates.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 09:22)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,856) by Jamie from UK
I'm sorry I'm not ashamed to have said that, I love Celine and I never said it wasn't awful what she's been through. It's a terrible disease and I can't imagine how it's been for her. However let's be realistic, this is the entertainment industry and where's there's money to be made the industry and its stars will make money out of such things. That's not me taking away from her illness as you think I am. I'm just stating a fact. Could Celine have chosen just to get better and not even mention about her voice then just release a new album, absolutely. Or does she document her whole experience and make money off it, then release an album and make double the money, course she will. She's a business woman at the end of the day. It's heartbreaking what she has been through and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. So don't tell me I'm being callous when you don't even know me.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 08:45)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,855) by Malcolm from Asia
I believe Mariah is the kind of person who doesn't like to be a victim in her own story. She will never be vulnerable like Celine because she narrates her story and struggles in a way that is strong-headed, this is why she's not getting the sympathy of the public even after what she's been through.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 02:53)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,854) by Will from England
"Miraculously she will soon be able to sing again and then a new album and book will be released about her struggles and then she's laughing all the way to the bank." To be so callus about a life threatning condition with no cure that triggers when she is doing something that brings her joy, is honesty horrible. I would hope that is there is nobody in the world who, after watching her actually have a seizure and what it looks like, would ever have the momentary flash of genuine thought that she would be "laughing all the way to the bank". What a careless, heartless comment to make and you should be ashamed.
(Wednesday 10 July 2024; 01:31)
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Lucky Daye (106,853) by Robert-Anthony from United States
His current #1 Urban AC song, That's You, was co-written by Bruno Mars. I believe MC has reached out to Lucky Daye because he didn't like my X collaboration post on June 29th like he did my two previous posts earlier this year and last year. She probably told him don't let anybody know we are going to collaborate. His tour starts July 11th through August 28th. I am sure they have already collaborated because of his tour and The Celebration of Mimi shows

So far, we have rumored collaborations with Solange, Anderson Paak, Bruno Mars and Max Martin.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 23:27)
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Holiday (106,852) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I went to the Rhine river today. There was a boat with a young family on it, and the boat was named Mariah. Isn't it cool? I would love to be on a boat like that. Happy holidays / vacation everyone.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 20:08)
Ace (106,851) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
It's just so funny how it can be news that Mariah aces on her own songs. But at lest we know she reads the New York Times.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 18:14)
May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,850) by Jamie from UK
I disagree, Mariah has said her voice isn't where she has liked it to have been on various projects and when she is performing live and not hit the note how she wanted she's said on numerous times, it is what it is. I think she does acknowledge the change in her voice but just on a personal level and doesn't feel the need to announce it like Celine has. Celine had lip synced for a while now too, had she not got this illness would she be doing this documentary and saying she can't sing, I very much doubt it. Whilst she has been really ill, she's capitalising on the fact and throwing in that her voice wasn't what it was, because let's face it, the programme wouldn't be as interesting if it was just about her being ill. Miraculously she will soon be able to sing again and then a new album and book will be released about her struggles and then she's laughing all the way to the bank. Sorry to sound cynical but it's easier to associate the loss of a once powerful voice to something else than just older age, if Mariah had been severely ill like Celine she too could have done a programme and said that's what attributed to her vocal decline but without that it doesn't make an interesting story.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 18:03)
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Lucky Daye (106,849) by Shezz from Pk
I hadn't heard of him before. Nice. I think MC has recorded a lot of different styles of music in the last few years from contemporary rnb to pop to dance and disco. It'll be interesting to see if she ends up with a varied album or commits to one particular style. Rumours are that Ariana has put her in touch with Max Martin and they have also recorded. I hope we get an original song this year, even if the album is released next year. It's funny how Christmas is her most popular time but also restricts her for a few months.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 17:37)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,848) by Brandon from USA
I totally agree with Shezz when he says that Mariah is fine doing what she's doing. She's not interested in selling out stadiums anymore. She's happy with doing shows here and there throughout the year and then popping up at Christmas time to collect her coins. I don't get the hunger to master her craft like Celine has right now. Celine could have just lipped her way through entire shows like MC is doing right now but she is hungry to be the best and not ok with deceiving her audience. Celine also has always admitted that the older she gets, her voice has changed and she can't sing like she did when she was younger. MC would never admit the significant changes in her voice. It all comes down to confidence. Celine is confident and MC is not. Celine has done the work to become a dynamic performer and MC has regressed in her craft in my opinion. I'll always champion for MC but she has to get off autopilot and clock in.
(Tuesday 9 July 2024; 14:39)
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Lucky Daye (106,847) by Robert-Anthony from United States
Do you think R&B singer, songwriter, and producer Lucky Daye could be that one collaborator MC needs to bring MC16 closer to being finished? This man is a brilliant artist in the way he crafts his songs. His latest album, Algorithm, is a masterpiece. Take a listen to Soft, Mary, and this interview.
(Monday 8 July 2024; 22:47)
May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,846) by Will from England
"Nothing great is forged in comfort, and I think she's gotten comfortable with where she's at and what she's achieved." You've hit the nail on the head with this, on where Mariah's head could potentially be. She doesn't have to fight anymore, and so she's taking time to enjoy her life and whatever side quests she's doing at the moment.
(Sunday 7 July 2024; 23:12)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,845) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Yes, I believe she will never talk openly or at least not now and she won't leave the diva antics because it's a protection. She's not like Céline. Mariah is more like Marilyn Monroe. We all know she loves her, they have some sad things in common. The traumatic childhood, loved by the world but still insecure inside. The relationships with different men that didn't work out. I do wish Mariah would get a little more relaxed. She's even more adorable when she's relaxed and not only the diva the people know her for. The "mop song" was hilarious. She can be so funny. A lot of people don't know that she's so funny.
(Saturday 6 July 2024; 19:21)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,844) by Norman from USA
That's not happening. I agree she needs to try something a bit different if she actually wants to sell again, but I'm not convinced she cares about it. When she cares, she commits 100% and goes all in. When was the last time she really pushed? Memoires? #Beautiful during Idol? I love Caution and the videos, but I'm not sure she was 100% all in, but she did step a bit outside of her comfort zone by collaborating with some of those producers.

I think she needs a partner to work with, someone like an LA Reid type of figure to push her. I think she does her best work when she's challenged and maybe even doubted, so she fights to prove them wrong. I think it has to be someone with a lot of knowledge and power - someone who she respects but that doesn't just agree with her on everything. Nothing great is forged in comfort, and I think she's gotten comfortable with where she's at and what she's achieved. She's magical in music, but business savvy, PR and branding are whole other beasts she never quite navigated successfully on her own. Her current team might have all the answers and ideas, but is she interested? I don't know.

Do I think she wants that 20th #1 or 21st? Absolutely. I'm just not sure she currently has the drive to do so. Plus, these #1s are kind of a joke these days. They don't seem to be earned as much as they're curated through different media. But that's another Oprah.

I can see her maybe changing up the producers a bit, but I'm not sure what else she'd actually change. There's a lot of different ways she could push for a fresh sound and image while remaining true to who she is, but up to her to want it.

Just my late night 2 cents.
(Saturday 6 July 2024; 12:11)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,843) by Shezz from Pk
I agree. Mariah and Celine are two very very different people. Mariah is way too guarded and very insecure to let go of her armour. Celine is a performer, that is her essence. Mariah is a creator. Yes it would make her more relatable perhaps to some but she will never open herself up to the ridicule and public shaming that will come with it. I think she deals with enough already. Celine is hungry to be the people's princess. Mariah is not. She is fine doing what she's doing. She doesn't want to sell out stadiums anymore like she did in the 90s. She's happy with theaters and the exponential success she gets during Christmas in between. As far as I know, Celine never said she turned to partial lipping to deal with her issues. She just said she could not sing as well. Those are two very different things. Randy, as beautiful as it may be, I think it's too late for Mariah to learn an instrument. It's clearly never been a priority for her. People still fill up her concerts, good for her and good for the people who enjoy it. I still have high hopes for MC16. I don't think she will suddenly change her style and start making Barbera [sic] Streisand like music. She will make the music that she enjoys. I hope it's something we will all love.
(Saturday 6 July 2024; 07:38)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,842) by Robert-Anthony from United States
MC's facade (the jokes, the rambling during interviews, and her childhood trauma) that she has built and uses to cope, is going to make it hard to drop her diva antics. It is her shtick now after of these years.
(Friday 5 July 2024; 20:03)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,841) by C from United States
Won't happen.
(Friday 5 July 2024; 18:12)
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May Céline inspire Mariah? (106,840) by Randy from USA
Mariah is a rebuilding project at this point. The first thing that has to go is the diva like antics. She has to drop the mermaid gowns. The obsession with lighting, hair and make up. Learn to play an instrument, like piano or guitar. She has been saying I'm a terrible piano player for how many years? Long enough to learn the same chords used in all of pop music. My real MCArchives family, listen to the instrumental of We Belong Together. It's four chords. I can play it. And I'm a terrible piano player. Toni Braxton plays piano. Madonna learned guitar. She has the money for a one on one teacher. Once she learns that, she can sit on stage and sing a new song followed by an unplugged version of one of her hits on a talk show. People will respect and love that.
(Friday 5 July 2024; 17:00)
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