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Re: Variety and lawyers (69,795) (69,815) by RibbonB from USA She likely talked to a lot of people, Lee Daniels, her lawyers, agents, husband etc. But she is talking in retrospect to where it went wrong. I mean Prince is gone and he didn't even have a will, but he had the forethought to know the internet was bad for musicians' profit. Just because he said go for it, doesn't mean he has all good ideas. Lol, but I am sure she doesn't think his motives for encouraging her are impure. But she might think her lawyers were motivated by money, not her best interests. (Monday 12 December 2016; 12:54)

Re: Mariah and other female singers (69,813) (69,814) by Malcolm from Asia Don't forget Lady Gaga and Rihanna. Maybe Mariah just doesn't really know them or listens to them? Mariah is old school so I guess that's why. I think if Selena or Ariana will go to her concert, she will eventually know them. They must do the first move for them to be noticed by her. Look at Tori Kelly, Fifth Harmony and Sam Smith, they reached her first and now Mariah knows them. (Monday 12 December 2016; 12:45)

Mariah and other female singers (69,813) by Sheila from United States Mariah seems to respect the older girls, Beyonce, Shania, Aretha, Janet, Katy Perry, she's cool with them. But the Arianna's, JoJo's etc it seems like she does not want to associate with them, or take photos with them. Not sure why. (Monday 12 December 2016; 11:53)

Re: (69,806) (69,812) by darrian liu from taiwan I need this collab to happen. I'm also a part of the Beyhive and it's been a dream of mine to see both of my queens collab. (Monday 12 December 2016; 10:48)

AIWFCIY's chart position this week (69,811) by darrian liu from taiwan According to this prediction of this week's Hot 100 (it's not yet updated), AIWFCIY moves up 6 places from its #23 debut right up into the top 20 at #17. I don't know for sure if this is accurate but if it is, this is quite impressive. The song took longer to hit the top 20 last year and if the song continues to perform like this, it wil hit top 5. Or, if it replicates last year's chart performance, it would hit #7 or #8, which is still in the top 10. Fingers crossed for a top 5. C'mon guys, let's fight harder. (Monday 12 December 2016; 10:45)

Stella reminds me of Howard K. Stern (69,810) by Gigi from USA After seeing the photo of Stella out in NYC wearing a heavy shawl while Mariah's wearing a revealing bodysuit in winter-like weather - it dawned on me that Stella reminds me of Anna Nicole Smith's lawyer, agent, manager, friend and supposed lover Howard K. Stern. With the exception of the "lover" part - Stella and her family are pretty much acting as all of those things for Mariah now, right? If you ever followed Anna Nicole Smith's life, Howard K. Stern was an outright enabler. I don't think anyone believed he had Anna's best interests at heart, as she was constantly the laughing-stock for the tabloids, yet she kept him around for 15 years until her death. Why? Because he was a yes-man who followed her around and gave her everything she wanted to "make her happy" and to remain in her inner circle. He knew all of her insecurities and weaknesses and played them up to his advantage in order to maintain his lifestyle. And well, we all know the ending to that story. If Stella was a true friend, why wouldn't she advise Mariah to cover up so she won't catch a cold or worse, get pneumonia? If she was a great manager, why hasn't she debunked all the rumors swirling around about Mariah being a gold digger and possible cheater? Whether the Bryan Tanaka romance is real or fake, what true friend wants the world to know that their friend/client was emotionally cheating with their backup dancer while engaged? And you can't tell me she's "too busy" because she constantly "likes" memes on Instagram and actively searches for posts criticizing her so she can leave "kissy lips" in the comments for the poster to let them know she read it. My point is, there's a lot of destructive behavior going on that a real friend and manager would not allow if they truly loved that person. And for all the fans who keep screaming "Let her live" - you are the same fans who act dumbfounded when your favorite celebrity dies as a direct result of their destructive behavior and then you start pointing fingers when you could've pointed them while the celebrity was alive. I've seen it happen so many times. I just wish there was something we could do before it's potentially too late. (Monday 12 December 2016; 9:28)

Beyoncé IG post (69,809) by Terna from Nigeria It seems Beyoncé came to her Beacon show last night. (Monday 12 December 2016; 9:01)

(69,806) by Tameka walker from United states Beyoncé came to see Mariah 's show and I personally would love for them to collaborate on a track. Those voices are phenomenal that track would be bananas. It would be a number one hit if they collaborate. I am a fan of both could you imagine the beehive and lambily coming together? (Monday 12 December 2016; 8:03)

Episode 2 (69,805) by Lila from United States Watched it online for free again. I somewhat hoped it was going to get somewhat better the second episode but I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up. Stupid dressing room meet with Tanaka. Rolled my eyes. The stupid handshake. Rolled my eyes. The fact that you can tell it's so fake. Rolled my eyes. Oh Lord, back to the Apple TV bullsh*t. Rolled my eyes. Hearing her sing Touch My Body during rehearsal was cute. We did not need to hear yet another recap of the Tommy Mottola days. Dumb Stella giving us nonsense about how a 12-year-old is perfect for running Mariah's social media. Rolled my eyes. We get to hear about how everyone's scared to lose their job. According, to one person, some people were fired but some people did just plain leave. I think more people left than were fired. Molly and Kristofer... uhhh. I don't know what was to be accomplished with throwing them together. We get James again. Again, awkward knowing that they're no longer together and the split was not good. I don't think Anthony was wrong for not wanting to share a bus with Mary Anne's kid. The dancers do work and it's not a crime for them to want time to themselves after that. Mary Anne's kid should've been left at home with the husband and Mary Anne needed to chill the f*ck out. It was not the end of the world that grown people didn't want to share a tour bus with her child. Also, instead of Stella fixing the situation, she did nothing but talk to the camera about them needing to get their sh*t together. You can definitely see that the tour was messy and unorganized. Yeah she's a big help. We barely got any footage of the performances to be able to tell if any chemistry was off between Anthony and Mariah, so it was ridiculous to hear Anthony complain about it. We can't tell. For the episode to be an hour long, there could've been much more of the performances shown. Lastly, all the talk about motherhood and the kids came across as fake for me. It felt more like instead of just being a good mom and us seeing that, Mariah was trying to convince the audience, herself, or both that she's a good mom. That line about everything she does (she was referring to her working) being for the kids, felt ingenuine. Music, touring, the entourage and all the rest is for Mariah, not for the kids. Then that scene talking about being single mothers. Rolled my eyes. I hope no one thinks that we're getting a real look at Mariah, her life, feelings, or thoughts, we're definitely not. Heck, we're not even getting a real look at her entourage. I watched two episodes and I'm good. (Monday 12 December 2016; 7:39)

Re: What on earth (69,779) (69,804) by Sasha from Nomansland And she complained last week on stage she had a cold since two days as a reason for a poor vocal abilities. (Monday 12 December 2016; 7:30)

MW episode 2 (69,803) by RibbonB from USA I took the time to watch tonight's episode because Roc and Roe were being featured somewhat. I love seeing them and they are both totally adorable. Love the Mariah mommy moments. If the show were Mariah on stage and at "home" with the kids it might be a more interesting show. 1. Molly is a waste of screen time. She is a dingbat and should never have been hired. Even as apparent comedy relief for the show, she is not funny. Why would any manager hire someone to make fun of after bragging about firing people left and right for not doing good jobs? 2. A 12 year old as social media manager is idiotic, Stella's theory of appealing to 12 year old Mariah fans is stupid. 3. Stella is inept as a manager/executive and tone deaf about what is appropriate. She is insane to think it appropriate for a 6 year old boy to travel on an adult tour bus with dancers for weeks at a time. That is not the place to cut budgets. She is not thinking about the security of the child, nor the privacy of the adults who are dancers not babysitters. 4. The Maryanne attitude was over the top and wrong. She shouldn't even want her son on a bus with grown men. 5. Stella is so lame she couldn't handle the issue she created? Really dumb All in all I think the show could have been better received and better promoted without all the typical reality show mess and leaks. Stella is tone-deaf to what could really work well for Mariah IMO. (Monday 12 December 2016; 7:21)

Re: Mariah Carey: "I don't know what people think of me" (69,780) (69,802) by Felix Pires from Holland Still sad in my eyes. MC loves you girl, kisses. (Monday 12 December 2016; 7:13)

Beyonce at Mariah's Beacon show (69,801) by Malcolm from Asia So nice of Beyonce attending Mariah's show together with her daughter Blue Ivy. I love it, they made my day complete. (Monday 12 December 2016; 6:41)

Re: It's amazing (69,785) (69,800) by radhames from Curacao It is so nice to see other lambs here on this board sharing similar thoughts as mine. It's the same lambs that are complaining over and over again. If the woman wants to exit the theatre she just performed and walk in the streets of New York in a bathing suite, because it makes her happy, than I'm also happy. In 1997 or somewhere around that time she was also dressing ultra sexy, so obviously this is nothing new. I really can't comprehend these "lambs", as if in their lives they are the perfect person. Are they lambs or goats? (I wonder if goats will get censored again.) I am exited this Christmas season because she is everywhere, like she is embracing the role of queen of Christmas. Mariah's World every Sunday, VH1 (most viewed YouTube's video from that show), successful Beacon shows (duet with R.Kelly and John Legend and attended by Shania Twain, Beyonce and still counting), James Corden, DJ Khaled, Times Square NYE, Stella even planned Christmas shows for 2017 in Las Vegas, etc. Shouldn't we all be exited AIWFCIY may get into the 10 of Billboard, 22 years after its release. Now I have another thing to say to people when they say she's irrelevant. Most importantly: her voice. Her recent performances of Joy to the World reminded me again why I became a lamb. So basically what I want to say is, I'm in love with this new era. Now I feel like I can have another TEOM record-breaking era. Side note: They said MW will be a train-wrack and will not watch, but they are here writing reviews. Lol. Blessed week Lambs. Team Stella. (Monday 12 December 2016; 5:54)

I think she does know (69,799) by Lila from United States Personally, I have a feeling that Mariah knows, to some extent, on some level, etc. what people think and say about her. Even if she hasn't read every specific comment, I think she knows that much of the public doesn't particularly respect her. I think reality always seeps in somehow someway. (Monday 12 December 2016; 4:35)

Re: Variety and lawyers (69,788) (69,798) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The funny part is majority of the people watching the show, fans, non fans, reviewers, immediately state how they dislike Stella yet Mariah doesn't see it. (Monday 12 December 2016; 4:17)

Why did she reschedule her final Vegas dates? (69,797) by SM from Citizen of the World Does anybody have more information? (Monday 12 December 2016; 4:07)

Re: Variety and lawyers (69,788) (69,796) by Lila from United States "Maybe upon reflection she feels that he lawyers did not negotiate the best deal for her and her brand at the time." If she feels that way, then fine. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with the "they made me" part. I'm sure her lawyers were looking out for their own interests but saying they made me makes it another case of "the venture went South, gotta blame the situation on someone else". I agree that Mariah is easily manipulated. At the same time, she then needs to acknowledge that she doesn't have or use the best judgement, instead of saying that someone made her do such and such. Overall, I think Mariah's life would be so much easier, if she would stop trying to be ride or die for and friends with people that work for her. You can be friendly but you don't have to be friends with them. She needs to draw a line, set the boundary, and say don't cross this. (Monday 12 December 2016; 4:02)

Re: Variety and lawyers (69,783) (69,795) by Edward from USA Mariah should make up her mind about how she got to be a judge on American Idol. First she said she consulted with Prince, and he told her she should do it, so she went with it. Now she's backpedaling saying her lawyers pushed her to sign on the dotted line so they could get a commission. You signed on the dotted line because you wanted those $20,000,000. You wanted those coins, so you should just own it regardless of how things turned out. (Monday 12 December 2016; 3:50)

Kelly and Legend (69,794) by B from USA I loved Mariah and R. Kelly's duet of The Christmas Song. I also loved Mariah's performance of When Christmas Comes with John. I wish I could've attended the annual Christmas residency at the Beacon Theatre. (Monday 12 December 2016; 3:18)

Mariah's World (69,792) by B from USA The first ten minutes of the second episode of Mariah's World were perfect. She was singing live with rehearsing and talking about the Butterfly album and era and why she didn't tour that much (Tommy). Hoping for more moments like this. Maybe we shouldn't have made assumptions about this docuseries. (Monday 12 December 2016; 3:13)

Two legends. (69,791) by Letters From Adi from India Shania just posted a picture of them together of the night she visited her show. Mariah in her high heels seems rather tall lol. (Monday 12 December 2016; 2:52)

Re: Madonna's sales vs Mariah's (69,730) (69,790) by darrian liu from taiwan I saw this recent Billboard article and while Madonna is the best selling female artist worldwide with 300+ million records sold, Mariah is the best selling female artist of the Nielsen Soundscan era which starts in 1991 with 55 million albums (not records) sold. However, if we're talking of all time in the US alone (including the Nielsen Soundscan era), Barbra Streisand is actually the best selling female artist, with 68.5 million albums (again, not records) sold. Madonna is the best selling female artist worldwide, Barbra is the best selling female artist in the US, and Mariah is the best selling female artist of the Nielsen Soundscan era. (Monday 12 December 2016; 2:00)

AIWFCIY discount / #1 potential (69,789) by 123 from USA Does anyone think they will discount the song to increase its chart potential? What other big promo events does she have lined up? (Monday 12 December 2016; 1:22)

Re: Variety and lawyers (69,783) (69,788) by RibbonB from USA Mariah does have power, but she also has issues of trust and maybe a little paranoia about people's motives. I think she is trying to get to a place where she surrounds herself with people she can trust, but she must know that, that hero lies within herself, and do some soul searching and self reflection, or even take some time off. She is easily manipulated and maybe hopeful to a fault. Famous people get let down all the time and have to wade through people who have their own best interests at heart vs. Mariah's. Maybe upon reflection she feels that he lawyers did not negotiate the best deal for her and her brand at the time. Stella seems like a master manipulator, recommended to her by a good friend. While many of us see her as a snake and sycophant, Stella came in playing to Mariah's ego and capitalizing on her fears. Perhaps more will develop as the show rolls on. Stella looks atrocious for her part in this mess. She might want to get some help and redirect before she sinks the ship. I keep referring back to Mariah's former dancer's comments. (Monday 12 December 2016; 1:01)

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