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Re: Fest suggestions to Mariah (70,676) (70,685) by Marissa from USA Yes. Even if Stella had nothing to do with this debacle, she still is the queen of burning bridges and destroying relationships, and even if Mariah fires her today she will still have to deal with the aftermath long after she's gone. I understand wanting someone who you feel stands up for you and is in your corner, but Stella takes it too far because she has absolutely no class or diplomacy. Even if it was DCP's fault, she could have put that out there without being dramatic and labeling it as "sabotage". Now imagine if something like this would have happened at the Grammy's or VMA's and Stella would have released a statement like that. I know she may think she's tough with her iPhone, unblended makeup and 12 inch acrylic nails but her petty clapbacks don't stand a chance against a big network or company that wants a war against Mariah. It's kind of like having a gang member as your bodyguard. They might defend you but their own beefs with other people might f*** around and get you killed. It's not just about Mariah and her individual actions. She will pay for the sins of the company she keeps too. Mariah is in too vulnerable of a position to allow fights to be picked with corporations. As long as she keeps lipsyncing and doesn't take care of her voice it will always be easy to "sabotage" her by releasing mic feeds and exposing backing tracks to create a viral, humiliating moment. Stella better shut up (or better yet step down ). (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 2:41)

NYE performance (70,684) by Joe from United Kingdom I aint posted here in awhile but here goes. I got love for Mariah, I even went to see her at the Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour in London where she did a good job. I'm just at a point now where I'm like I'm not gonna make any excuses anymore. I have to be real, people already don't wanna see you win which is sad but what can you expect when everytime you sing on national TV where it counts where everybody will be watching you either completely lip-sync or make an unrehearsed embarrasment of yourself. I actually think when she wants to she can still sound pretty good, her improvising and freestyle moments show that. If you ever want to sing on TV again sit on a chair, drop the glamour, drop the I gotta have the right camera angles, forget going on stage with a glass of wine in your hand, drop the key of the song to what you can manage, rehearse it and sing the song. You are a singer. I understand not having anything to prove but have you completely lost sight of what made people fall in love with you in the first place. I'll continue to be a fan but this is just getting a bit ridiculous now. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 2:14)

Mariah and Stella called train wrecks on news (70,683) by Ty from USA Dang man, the radio was brutal calling Mariah lazy and pass her prime. They said she won't focus on her craft and she's scared to sing and Stella just let's this continue. Benny medina would never. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:52)

Re: Something in the buttermilk ain't clean (70,680) (70,682) by Licia from USA Thanks for the explanation. I've been trying to understand how the ear piece and monitors could effect the performance and how them not working prevented her from continuing. I want to understand what happened. Not just throw sand in her face. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:48)

Mariah Carey team: Here's what really happened (70,681) by THE TRUTH from USA Okay Mariah needs to run not walk away from Stella and family as fast as she can. Yeah Mariah dropped the ball, and messed up big time but if she owns up to it and accepts responsibility (something she's never done in her entire career) people will cut her a break because she's a legend and has written so many songs which are like the soundtrack to so many people's lives. If she continues to have Stella run interference, lie, and insult TV networks, production companies, media, etc on her behalf and in her name the only winner in the end will be Stella. Mariah will forever be a punch line and the brunt of cruel jokes. There is much damage control to be done as is clearly evidenced just reading the comments on Lionel Richie's Facebook page. People aren't looking for arrogant diva-ness, that's tired. Some humility and authenticity would go a long way right now. Taking a long break and finally coming back with a great record wouldn't hurt either. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:13)

Re: Something in the buttermilk ain't clean (70,673) (70,680) by Jo-B Sebsky from United States It's called the voice jammer effect. On a stage that big and among a crowd that large singing without a monitor is impossible. Without the monitor, you sing into the microphone and hear your voice back delayed by a few milliseconds (depending on the how large the venue is) because your only audio reference is the speakers facing the audience. She was able to sing small phrases but if she sang anything longer the delayed audio reflections would have messed her up and she'd immediately have issues continuing. The dancers, on the other hand, don't need monitors because they aren't contributing sonically. This means they can react to the music without worrying about losing their timing because they don't have to worry about delay. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:12)

Re: The Truth (70,665) (70,679) by Will from England There are photos of Mariah at sound check and dance rehearsals. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:11)

Re: The Truth (70,665) (70,678) by THE TRUTH from USA You are so on point with this post. Kudos. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 1:00)

Auld Lang Syne / Stella's EW interview (70,677) by G.G. from USA Auld Lang Syne was lipped ok, why not keep going? This whole situation is weird, something isn't right. I see Stella is back to telling people to f- off. How classy. What a good look for Mariah, having a trash bag as a manager. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:59)

Fest suggestions to Mariah (70,676) by Edward from USA I won't regurgitate what everybody has already stated concisely and precisely. These are a few suggestions to Mariah 1. Take a break from the spotlight for a year or so, you've already made enough headlines for the wrong reasons. Let us miss you, be elusive. 2. Get Mariah's Word off the air, it's not a good docu-series but it isn't good reality either. 3. Go back to that place where you had nature and horses around you while you wrote those great songs on a notepad. 4. Forget about touring for now, and focus on your babies, on your mother, on your music. 5. Work on your voice and comeback with great music. Great music is great regardless of chart position. 6. Lay off the booze, it has clearly affected your voice greatly, but there's still hope. Work with a vocal coach. 7. Get rid of Stella, even though she comes across as if she were always rooting for you, she and her foul mouth are about to get you in trouble because she lacks professionalism. 8. Take this NYE performance as a sign for you to humble yourself and get real professionals in control of those things you don't know We can't pretend this is an isolated incident, it has happened many times before at different magnitudes, but it has. The question would be, why does it keep happening? (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:55)

Re: NYE performance (70,656) (70,675) by Licia from USA I agree. I don't believe she planned to lip the whole thing. I expected there to be some. I was just flabbergasted by her not stopping and either having someone fix the issue or try to sing what she could. It made me sad to see her so defeated, but it pissed me off that she gave up so easily. They are even handling the press surrounding this wrong in my opinion. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:46)

Re: The two Stellas on MCArchives (70,669) (70,674) by Marcus from Brazil Good riddance. Now you can sashay away to Mariah Buzz or Mariah Network. Bye Terna. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:23)

Something in the buttermilk ain't clean (70,673) by Marissa from USA The more I watch the clip, the more confused I get about this performance. If she couldn't hear herself/the monitors weren't on, how was she able to occasionally sing snippets of her songs and how were the dancers able to be on point with all of their dance moves? Don't get me wrong, clearly something went wrong, but I do think a large part of it was her just being too afraid to sing. The few parts that she did sing she didn't even sound bad, so she might has well have just kept going. If she's at the point where she doesn't feel secure enough to sing 3 measly songs without backing tracks, her voice overall is in horrible shape and she needs to come to terms with it, do something or stop performing. I can understand having some backing tracks for the Vegas show because she's performing 18 songs and does need to preserve her voice, but damn. If you're at the point where you can't even play it off anymore and wing it, you have no business performing. Take on the gigs that you're prepared to handle, not just what will get you attention and a check. Stop performing songs that require you to be the vocal acrobat that you once were and take it easy. It's okay to switch out your popular, but complex songs for songs that are easier to sing. Chasing who you once were is only going to get you embarrassed. You want to be who you once were but don't want to put in the effort that you once did. If you want to compete with the Mariah of '95, you're gonna have to put the drinks down, record songs that you can actually sing live, take multiple days vocal rest, get a vocal coach and attend sound checks. Again, put in the effort or retire. Mariah, I'd rather you just admit that the thrill is gone when it comes to your passion for music and excellence and just have a seat. You still have your "music is my life" script but your actions are speaking louder than words at this point. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:21)

Poor thing (70,671) by Sasha from Nomansland Once again, she had everything in her hands since day one to build an empire. Just because she's unable to put herself in question and evolve and accept that she's a simple mortal like everyone, that she's getting old and change, she prefers wandering in her fake world. I think she's (in purpose) so disconnecting to reality that she doesnt know what's real or what's not. Life has just became a game and an endless party because she's lost and doesnt know what to do with herself. I may sound harsh and rude but I can't feel pity for her anymore. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:20)

Re: Still to come (70,659) (70,670) by Sasha from Nomansland Ughh I repeat myself but they look like mother and son. It's disgusting. If Mariah was still hot like in 2008 I could understand but how in hell a young and cute guy could possibly be interested in a 46 years old dressing like a drag queen and unable to sing her own song live? The power of money I guess. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:04)

Re: The two Stellas on MCArchives (70,639) (70,669) by Terna from Nigeria Lol. I also wondered why my original message was censored. Trust me there was absolutely no foul language. I don't need to curse to get my point across what he censored was the "and" sign (&). Eric I dunno what passive aggressive game you've begun playing but I don't do passive aggression. If you don't want me on [...] message board just say so afterall it's already rundown with [censored], [censored] and [censored] claiming to be Mariah Carey fans. Mcarchives.com doesn't validate my fandom. I didn't get permission from you to be a Mariah Carey fan, that happened way (all caps) before I discovered your site, and it wasn't even my number one go to site then. That was Mariah Buzz and the Mariah Network. (Tuesday 3 January 2017; 0:03)

Re: MW episode 4: Mimi L review (70,663) (70,668) by RibbonB from USA The whole story line is asinine. Sheesh. (Monday 2 January 2017; 22:29)

This is so frustrating (70,667) by automatic_prince from Germany Hi everyone. I read this amazing board often but this is only my second time posting here. And as I'm typing this I realize that I only seem to feel the need to post here when something tragic happens. I think the last time I posted here was after her disastrous Elusive Chanteuse Show in Tokyo. I couldn't believe it was happening back then and neither can I right now. I guess I just need to feel the warmth and the cuddles from the Lambily to get through this fiasco. So thanks for being here. I mean this is really bad. Most of my feelings have already been expressed by other members on this board so I don't need to go into detail about what needs to change in Mariah's career. I'm just going to end on a more superficial note and point out that in opinion she looked absolutely fantastic. Possibly her best look in the last one or two years. That's why it's even more frustrating. It could have been perfect and we could have had an amazing performance to look back at. Well it was not meant to be... again. (Monday 2 January 2017; 22:29)

Re: Like Godmother like daughter (70,646) (70,666) by Malcolm from Asia But the thing with Patti and other singers that suffered a related mishap, they handled it like a pro. It could've been better if she approached it differently, like cut the music and say in front of millions of people that there is a problem and sincerely apologize so that she didn't get huge criticism like this. But the damage has been done and I just hope she sees this incident as an opportunity to do better next time and reflect from it. However, I just heard that this can be possibly an inside job for the sake of Mariah's World. If that's true, Shawn, Brett, Lee should help Mariah to get rid of Stella because this is not shaping up well (see Stella's Billboard article), just the fact that Mariah is making headlines all in a bad way. And please help her in her mental health, because honestly if she's in the right state of mind, all of this bs would not have happened. She's already 46, she should know better because like what she said it will always comes down to her. Take responsibility for your actions like an adult and keep in mind that work ethic is everything whether you're a legend or not. One thing that will help this nightmare to diminish is to do a Facebook Live and sing a song, straight up live, because we all know that's the whole point of why people is going nuts about this. (Monday 2 January 2017; 22:23)

The Truth (70,665) by JAXGH from United States Mariah knows she will sound bad if she can't hear herself. All singers absolutely loathe not being able to hear themselves because they have no judgement if they're doing well or not, if they're in tune, or sounding flat. She didn't risk it, so she just didn't even sing. Because if she started to sing (without hearing herself), she'll sound obviously relatively bad and that will give haters more power to say "she can't sing anymore". She was just mortified through out the whole thing, she messed up the intro and that probably stuck in her mind and probably already embarrassed (her mouth didn't match Auld Lang Syne). It was a major giveaway. Even the way she talked, you can tell she has no judgement, she just sounded like she's mumbling words. I still think she could've been like "Stop. Stop I can not hear myself." Apologize to the audience, have a diva moment whatever, until she can hear it. Screw the time frame they have for commercials, she's already screwed over by the tech team, but she also screwed the tech team over. All these people are probably pissed at her. Mariah is the only one that didn't attend the tech rehearsal, everybody else came so everybody else's performance went smoothly, except hers. Everybody's ear piece was working, except hers. See a pattern? The tech team devote the time of day to rehearse despite it being a holiday and being away from family but Mariah's lazy ass decided not to even bother and send a double to rehearse for her (****** ridiculous, maybe this double should've been the one that performed lmao). That's what happens when you think you're too "good" for rehearsals and waste people's time. They start to dislike you and let you suffer for it. The in-ears not working is no incident, they purposely gave her a broken one. Mariah may be the biggest "star" there but that gives her no reason to be unprofessional. Even new comers like Fifth Harmony came to rehearse and took their performance very seriously. It's a shame. (Monday 2 January 2017; 22:11)

Re: Billboard article (70,652) (70,664) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Yes dahlin' just watched it and posted the recap. (Monday 2 January 2017; 21:48)

MW episode 4: Mimi L review (70,663) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter 1) Festivities on the jet. They are playing "Oh Santa". I almost forgot how festive the song was. 2) Lee Daniels is here. They are discussing about their difficult past and how they have both been victims to predators and how they mask if differently, with Mariah using her diva antics as a self defense. Good for him to give a little background for people to understand Mariah's attitude a little better. 3) Molly is setting up an Easter party for the kids and she'll be the Easter Bunny. Mariah looks like a million bucks at the party. Cute moment with Dembabies. 4) Thirsty Tanaka is back practicing how to get out of the anniversary cake and spray champagne while doing a hip thrust. He is also talking about how MC opened up to him back in 2006 and told him to be more than a dancer and invited him back to her house to listen to her then unreleased music. Too many lies detected. Girl bye. 5) Mariah prank calling Molly, as Pamela, to order Mozzarella Sticks. 6) Mariah is at the party now, Tanaka is pulling his stripper moves. Tanaka running his hand through Mariah's thighs, Mariah pouring a glass of bubbly on Tanaka, while dude ripples away. 7) Anthony is talking about how he and everyone else in the room is noticing Tanaka is all over Mariah flirting away and Anthony is like it's awkward because she is engaged. Honestly I don't know what they wished to achieve using this story line. It makes Mariah look bad. Also awkward is Mishka is hanging around drunk and occasionally shirt less adults watching this sexual tension go down. Oh wait the other children including Dembabies are there too. Weird. 8) Stella is pissed because Molly is playing with the cake Tanaka came out off. Stella is saying she wants to "wring her neck" because she isn't paying her to fool around. So rude. You are out there partying along with everyone else so why can't she do the same? 9) Stella's World moment where she is showing how her life is after the show. She has 2 sick children she needs to take care of after having Mariah do her duties. She goes on and on about the no glam side of being a single mommy while Mariah is just sitting in the back, because duh, you don't interrupt the real star. 10) Molly went to get a tattoo, for all of you that care. 11) Tanaka is happy he finally got his time with Mariah. 12) Back to Stella's World. Stella is going off on Molly and going on and on about having to take care of her sick kids with no help. Then why bring them on such a hectic tour? 13) Snippet of "Close My Eyes" while some fans talk about what Mariah and her music means to her. It was a sweet moment. They also showed the scene with the fan giving her the cross. 14) Another long Molly-Stella scene. Why is this even required? This girl is not even related to Mariah and we all know it's a staged storyline. 15) Stella kissing Mariah's behind. Next week's preview, Tanaka is getting uber touchy with Mariah. At one point he asks Mariah "Are you really going to marry this guy?" Mariah asks "Why?" He says "I just really want you to be happy." Tanaka get the eff out. (Monday 2 January 2017; 21:46)

Re: Still to come (70,659) (70,662) by RibbonB from USA Barf indeed. Lord, ok save me the recap if this is all it was about. Now I am reading that his "ex" was throwing shade on social media, until she made her accounts private. She posted about Karma doing it's work re: the NYE performance and about watching their (M. and the hired stripper) house of cards built on Satan burn up, lol. Ugh, this whole reality thing has been a debacle and M looks to be carrying it into 2017. Sadly, I hope the ratings last night flopped like Stellars pre-boob job flap jack "bitties". Something needs to get M. to focus on what got her the fame, the voice. (Monday 2 January 2017; 21:38)

Re: My thoughts on NYE (70,643) (70,661) by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA I don't think she can sing the highnotes consistently anymore. She's been lipsynching the Emotions' end high notes since 1998. I think she may still be able to hit high notes but they are the quality or controllable enough to work in a song like Emotions. There is something wrong with her high notes. (Monday 2 January 2017; 21:30)

Re: Mariah Carey interview with Ryan Seacrest (70,653) (70,660) by Lara from Middle East The only thing I could feel is how much this song by Wham reminded me of Mariah's "Prisoner". (Monday 2 January 2017; 21:15)

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