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Tommy again? (111,706)
by Edward from USA
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"HFIA" is a great album and we should all be happy about that. Some people need to realize that Mariah's longevity itself is something to celebrate, 35 years in the business and still this relevant is no small feat. At this point, the conspiracy theories are just exhausting, there's not a one-eye man with crooked teeth and twisted fingers trying to sabotage her. Back in the 90s and 2000s, adults bought CDs and singles, which boosted sales. Today, everything revolves around streaming, and teens are mostly the ones driving that now, it's a completely different game. You don't even have to buy "HFIA", it's available on every streaming platform. But to match a single album purchase, you'd have to stream it over 1,500 times, which is nearly impossible for the average fan. Other than the holidays, when she reigns supreme on all streaming platforms, unfortunately, she doesn't benefit as much from the streaming-heavy system.
So, as I stated here before the album even dropped: don't stress over "HFIA" on the charts. Don't let numbers distract you from the fact that Mariah has given us something precious with this album.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 14:56)
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Here for everything but it all (111,705)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah. I concur with this completely. Can we please stop hearing about Eminem and Jennifer Lopez already? Does Andy Cohen not have anything more interesting to ask her? I am sick to death of the "I don't know her" nonsense. Mariah has a brilliant new album out, and these people opt to ask her about dumb feuds from the 2000s or a mediocre "grunge" album she made in 1995 while goofing off after hours with Walter and company.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 14:30)
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Here for everything but it all (111,696)
by T from USA
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A quick Google search of Mariah Carey's name and the top 5 news articles are about: a secret MJ duet, a secret rock album, Eminem, still not knowing JLo, and the Christmas tour. Gee, I wonder why the album is not in the top 5 on Billboard? I guess a new artist can debut high because it literally is all about the music, but as an act reaches their sixteenth album all everyone cares about is everything else.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 03:39)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,704)
by Bill from the UK
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I see what you're saying but it's not 1995 anymore. Everyone who would buy the album will likely add it to their Amazon basket and have it delivered. Even if they did trudge out to a record store especially to buy it and find it to not be in stock, they'd then order it through Amazon. I think everyone who was going to buy the album in the first week would have done so, one way or another. There's not 20,000 fans left unable to pick up a copy. And if they were, it's there to stream. The numbers are the numbers, no point dwelling on them. Let's be thankful and grateful Mariah absolutely delivered with this album, it's the best she's done since Emancipation in my view. Still playing it non-stop.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 13:42)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,693)
by T from USA
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I was worried about her signing to gamma and my worries were correct. It surely was a way to connect to what moves records these days which is streaming, particularly at Apple. The only problem with that is it was a big gamble as Mariah isn't, and probably never will be a streaming artist. Her strength is physical sales and unfortunately being independent meant many countries, many stores from Canada to Spain, just didn't have the album in stock. I'm not mad about the first week sales but I am disappointed. It was in her hands, and she did decently but what about actually singing some of these great songs on tv? Like Jimmy Kimmel and America's got Talent literally were both ratings hits the week her album came out. Why didn't she book onto these shows way ahead of time and sing HFIA? Nothing will help unless she actually has the product in the stores to purchase.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 02:38)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,703)
by Bobby A from United States
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Yes. I wouldn't be surprised if MC and Gamma part ways after the HFIA deluxe version is released. Gamma is too small for a legacy artist like Mariah Carey. She needs a major label like Atlantic under Craig Kallman. Craig Kallman could create a business plan to increase MC's streaming sales with a duets album as her first Atlantic release. A Mariah Carey and Teddy Swims original duet would be a #1 streaming hit.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 13:04)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,702)
by jaker20 from US
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Caution had tour bundles, and HFIA didn't. So overall these are good numbers for her. Although these numbers are literally identical with Caution which was 51K overall, and 43 pure sales, which makes me wonder if they are Caution numbers and there's a mistake. Lets wait for the official numbers.
She can't book all these shows that you were suggesting with the schedule she's put together. Have you seen her schedule? It is insane. Someone posted her schedule on twitter a couple of weeks ago which shows her being full up to the end of the year. So all these bookings you are suggesting probably won't make a difference other than just exhaust her.
But hey, HFIA will be number 1 in album sales this week, so lets just celebrate that.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 10:31)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,702)
by jaker20 from US
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Caution had tour bundles, and HFIA didn't. So overall these are good numbers for her. Although these numbers are literally identical with Caution which was 51K overall, and 43 pure sales, which makes me wonder if they are Caution numbers and there's a mistake. Lets wait for the official numbers.
She can't book all these shows that you were suggesting with the schedule she's put together. Have you seen her schedule? It is insane. Someone posted her schedule on twitter a couple of weeks ago which shows her being full up to the end of the year. So all these bookings you are suggesting probably won't make a difference other than just exhaust her.
But hey, HFIA will be number 1 in album sales this week, so lets just celebrate that.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 10:31)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,693)
by T from USA
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I was worried about her signing to gamma and my worries were correct. It surely was a way to connect to what moves records these days which is streaming, particularly at Apple. The only problem with that is it was a big gamble as Mariah isn't, and probably never will be a streaming artist. Her strength is physical sales and unfortunately being independent meant many countries, many stores from Canada to Spain, just didn't have the album in stock. I'm not mad about the first week sales but I am disappointed. It was in her hands, and she did decently but what about actually singing some of these great songs on tv? Like Jimmy Kimmel and America's got Talent literally were both ratings hits the week her album came out. Why didn't she book onto these shows way ahead of time and sing HFIA? Nothing will help unless she actually has the product in the stores to purchase.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 02:38)
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UK charts (111,701)
by Jamie from UK
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Mariah has charted at number 31 on the official UK album chart. She charted at number 1 on the RnB chart though. I still wish they would have released an actual single for both SS and PTS. If you go on Wikipedia there is a cover for PTS on the singles information. I'm still loving the album and can't stop listening too it, shame it didn't chart higher here but it doesn't take away the fact that it's a great album.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 10:23)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,700)
by Lighty from China
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Even the Japanese version is far inferior to what we used to have. Lackluster cd case packaging, boring bonus tracks, minimum release promotion. Gamma may have the most devotion to Mariah but big labels have the resources Mariah needs for sales.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 08:56)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,693)
by T from USA
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I was worried about her signing to gamma and my worries were correct. It surely was a way to connect to what moves records these days which is streaming, particularly at Apple. The only problem with that is it was a big gamble as Mariah isn't, and probably never will be a streaming artist. Her strength is physical sales and unfortunately being independent meant many countries, many stores from Canada to Spain, just didn't have the album in stock. I'm not mad about the first week sales but I am disappointed. It was in her hands, and she did decently but what about actually singing some of these great songs on tv? Like Jimmy Kimmel and America's got Talent literally were both ratings hits the week her album came out. Why didn't she book onto these shows way ahead of time and sing HFIA? Nothing will help unless she actually has the product in the stores to purchase.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 02:38)
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51k units (111,699)
by Dove from United States
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I guess that's how many of us there are.
It hit me today that this album cycle is pretty much done. It makes me kind of sad. I'm still going to be listening to the album nonstop but we're not going to be seeing her as much again. I hope she at least does more social media appearances for us, to stay connected.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 06:26)
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"It's one of his classics" (111,698)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ya it's something from one of his older albums and the song was more than likely released but without Mariah. I also wish Mariah wouldn't give half baked answers lol, girl spill the whole tea or don't.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 05:27)
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"It's one of his classics" (111,694)
by Edward from USA
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This is how part of that interview went down. Andy: Did you write it? Mariah: No, it's one of his classics, and I sang along with him and did new background vocals and did... Judging by the way she's saying, this wasn't a duet post mortem.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 02:47)
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"It's one of his classics" (111,697)
by Lambi from USA
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Yeah it's already an existing classic and Mariah basically just "sprinkled it with her brilliance" as Ari would say. I'm curious what uptempo song it is.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 03:46)
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"It's one of his classics" (111,694)
by Edward from USA
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This is how part of that interview went down. Andy: Did you write it? Mariah: No, it's one of his classics, and I sang along with him and did new background vocals and did... Judging by the way she's saying, this wasn't a duet post mortem.
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Here for everything but it all (111,696)
by T from USA
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A quick Google search of Mariah Carey's name and the top 5 news articles are about: a secret MJ duet, a secret rock album, Eminem, still not knowing JLo, and the Christmas tour. Gee, I wonder why the album is not in the top 5 on Billboard? I guess a new artist can debut high because it literally is all about the music, but as an act reaches their sixteenth album all everyone cares about is everything else.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 03:39)
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The numbers are not matching up (111,695)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, those are solid numbers for a legacy artist. For example, Ed Sheen's [sic] Play dropped on September 12 and opened with 71k first week sales, 51k of which were pure album sales. Yet just two weeks later, it's already out of the BB200 albums.
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The numbers are not matching up (111,692)
by Bobby A from United States
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HFIA is projected to sell 51,000 copies for its first week and debut at number #7 on the Billboard 200. Caution sold 51,000 and had a #5 debut with less promotion and no hit singles before its release. Seems like an powerful entity has its hand in keeping HFIA's true numbers hidden and distorted.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 02:32)
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"It's one of his classics" (111,694)
by Edward from USA
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This is how part of that interview went down. Andy: Did you write it? Mariah: No, it's one of his classics, and I sang along with him and did new background vocals and did... Judging by the way she's saying, this wasn't a duet post mortem.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,691)
by Lambi from USA
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That too but IBT is more of a ballad in her own arranged key. I feel she's talking about more of an uptempo record. Mariah said something along the lines of "I added background vocals and sang over him", and I feel I'm That Chick is closer to that.
(Saturday 4 October 2025; 01:58)
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Mariah needs to be part of a major label #7 51,000 (111,693)
by T from USA
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I was worried about her signing to gamma and my worries were correct. It surely was a way to connect to what moves records these days which is streaming, particularly at Apple. The only problem with that is it was a big gamble as Mariah isn't, and probably never will be a streaming artist. Her strength is physical sales and unfortunately being independent meant many countries, many stores from Canada to Spain, just didn't have the album in stock. I'm not mad about the first week sales but I am disappointed. It was in her hands, and she did decently but what about actually singing some of these great songs on tv? Like Jimmy Kimmel and America's got Talent literally were both ratings hits the week her album came out. Why didn't she book onto these shows way ahead of time and sing HFIA? Nothing will help unless she actually has the product in the stores to purchase.
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The numbers are not matching up (111,692)
by Bobby A from United States
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HFIA is projected to sell 51,000 copies for its first week and debut at number #7 on the Billboard 200. Caution sold 51,000 and had a #5 debut with less promotion and no hit singles before its release. Seems like an powerful entity has its hand in keeping HFIA's true numbers hidden and distorted.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,691)
by Lambi from USA
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That too but IBT is more of a ballad in her own arranged key. I feel she's talking about more of an uptempo record. Mariah said something along the lines of "I added background vocals and sang over him", and I feel I'm That Chick is closer to that.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,684)
by T from USA
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Mariah covered MJ in I'll Be There back in 1992.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 15:09)
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So... thoughts on the VMA performance? (111,690)
by Lambi from USA
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I got this one correct again about Mariah's dancing trauma as a little kid. I called it before she even referenced it on WWHL. I don't have enough fingers for all these rings.
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So... thoughts on the VMA performance? (111,040)
by Lambi from USA
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To the real Lambilies, this was expected. I was honestly just smiling the whole time, I felt like her bestie hyping her up: "Go girl. Project." But yeah, to the casual viewer at home, this probably came off as stale and a little sad to watch, with her age in context. I thought the general public's sentiment would probably be, "It's time to retire." But I checked the YouTube comments, surprisingly passed the vibe check, it sounded like they are openly just accepting Mariah: "Only Mimi could walk across the stage like a robot and make it iconic." "She gives me everything and nothing at the same time, I love it." LMAO.
I know Mariah is mortified of dancing because when she was a little girl, her aunt once used it as a determining factor if she was black or not. (It's so f***ed up) But I wish she could move past that. Heartbreaker-era Mariah doing choreography was so cute. I actually think she's a decent dancer, she has natural rhythm. Obviously not a showstopper but still entertaining to watch. People are accepting of her giving that little now, but maybe she can give a tiny bit more on the stage presence department.
(Monday 8 September 2025; 23:51)
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,689)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, you may be right about it being her idea. But it did kind of irritate me when Questlove made a remark about it being Mariah’s best record. Even if he was joking, it just annoys me that people are diverting attention away from HFIA, which happens to be really great and that fans have been waiting on for seven years. Hopefully the deluxe edition will help revive some momentum after the Mimi tour and the Christmas residency.
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,688)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Honestly I think it was Mariah who asked for them to bring up SUD because there's no way all the interviews kept asking her about it when really no one other than lambs know about it. And I also don't get the point of her insisting on wasting time talking about it when it seems at least from what she says that she doesn't know who owns the rights to it and how she can release it. She's been randomly bringing it up and it never goes anywhere. She should just focus on HFIA and I'm a bit disappointed that she doesn't have much stories to share about her writing process when the question comes up either from the interviewer or the fans. She's very vague and very airy about it yet she keeps saying that people don't give her credit for writing her songs. I also get annoyed that she keeps saying "it's in my book" like girl one promo at a time.
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,688)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Honestly I think it was Mariah who asked for them to bring up SUD because there's no way all the interviews kept asking her about it when really no one other than lambs know about it. And I also don't get the point of her insisting on wasting time talking about it when it seems at least from what she says that she doesn't know who owns the rights to it and how she can release it. She's been randomly bringing it up and it never goes anywhere. She should just focus on HFIA and I'm a bit disappointed that she doesn't have much stories to share about her writing process when the question comes up either from the interviewer or the fans. She's very vague and very airy about it yet she keeps saying that people don't give her credit for writing her songs. I also get annoyed that she keeps saying "it's in my book" like girl one promo at a time.
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,687)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, that's why I was a little irritated during the US promo interviews when interviewers started asking her about "Someone's Ugly Daughter" rather than HFIA. She had a relatively narrow time interval to promote the album, and it really should be the focus because it's a great body of work.
I think they should have put the album out much sooner, closer to the release of "Type Dangerous". She wasn't as busy with tour engagements during the Summer, so she could have devoted more time to the album. I know some people did not like "Type Dangerous", but it caught fire in a way like none of her single releases since "#Beautiful".
They should have pushed the first single a lot harder and planned better so that "The Celebration of Mimi" shows were not diverting attention away from the album. She has tour engagements planned for all of October and into the first week of November, and then the Christmas residency starts on November 28. It seems like they are just going to let the album fade away like they did with "Caution".
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,687)
by BFF from United States
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Yeah, that's why I was a little irritated during the US promo interviews when interviewers started asking her about "Someone's Ugly Daughter" rather than HFIA. She had a relatively narrow time interval to promote the album, and it really should be the focus because it's a great body of work.
I think they should have put the album out much sooner, closer to the release of "Type Dangerous". She wasn't as busy with tour engagements during the Summer, so she could have devoted more time to the album. I know some people did not like "Type Dangerous", but it caught fire in a way like none of her single releases since "#Beautiful".
They should have pushed the first single a lot harder and planned better so that "The Celebration of Mimi" shows were not diverting attention away from the album. She has tour engagements planned for all of October and into the first week of November, and then the Christmas residency starts on November 28. It seems like they are just going to let the album fade away like they did with "Caution".
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,685)
by T from USA
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Whoever is managing her needs to wake up. Fine, she's left the USA but if she's going overseas they should at least mention the new album in these articles. Pushing 'The Celebration of Mimi' at this point makes zero sense. She just released an album. That would be like Taylor Swift going around promoting 1989 right now.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 15:11)
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Help please (HFIA booklet) (111,686)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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She looked like she in late 20's there. I was shocked.
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Help please (HFIA booklet) (111,682)
by Dove from United States
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I like her sexy looks but I actually really loved what she was wearing on Jennifer Hudson's show.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 09:57)
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Article: Mariah Carey arrives in Jakarta with Ondel-Ondel welcome (111,685)
by T from USA
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Whoever is managing her needs to wake up. Fine, she's left the USA but if she's going overseas they should at least mention the new album in these articles. Pushing 'The Celebration of Mimi' at this point makes zero sense. She just released an album. That would be like Taylor Swift going around promoting 1989 right now.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,684)
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Mariah covered MJ in I'll Be There back in 1992.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,683)
by Lambi from USA
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It's okay, the "There ain't no rules, it's up to you, party on right through the night" from I'm That Chick is straight out of Michael's Off The Wall. Just in case you wanna have a reference of how Mariah would sound doing MJ's background vocals. At least we have that.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,683)
by Lambi from USA
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It's okay, the "There ain't no rules, it's up to you, party on right through the night" from I'm That Chick is straight out of Michael's Off The Wall. Just in case you wanna have a reference of how Mariah would sound doing MJ's background vocals. At least we have that.
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"It's one of his classics" (111,667)
by T from USA
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She was talking about the cover song that was supposed to be HFIA, she wanted to keep some of his vocals on it but didn't get permission. So instead she covered the next best guy, Paul McCartney and also wanted him on the song in some capacity but he wasn't available. My only gripe with these people not fulfilling her creative vision is that if it were Beyonce I'm sure they would all say yes. Anyway, I'm glad we got a solo My Love because it fits in line with all her other white guy covers from those decades. I don't know if I would want her Butterfly Lounge voice on an MJ classic. My Love sounds really good.
(Thursday 2 October 2025; 16:01)
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Help please (HFIA booklet) (111,682)
by Dove from United States
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I like her sexy looks but I actually really loved what she was wearing on Jennifer Hudson's show.
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Help please (HFIA booklet) (111,680)
by Randy from USA
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Y'all know I have been Mr. Negative for years on this board. I hate to give up that title but Mariah has really dialed it in this time. The album is wonderful, check my profile for the full review I did. I haven't played an MC album this much during the first week since Memoirs. In addition, she has run around everywhere promoting tirelessly. If the numbers disappoint, Gamma can't blame MC. She looks great, has been grinding and turned in a wonderful piece of art. And to see her in blazers and not mermaid gowns. She stopped traffic on Jennifer Hudson with the blazer and leather pants, hair and make up flawless. This is an amazing roll out and I am proud of MC. I would like to take this time to apologize for calling her a whistling Christmas Jessica Rabbit relic.
(Friday 3 October 2025; 01:09)
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The webmaster has the right to refuse any message he doesn't like.
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