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New music (110,228) by ADAM from USA So I've read on here several times how some people are disappointed MC is a feature of her own song. While I normally would agree with that sentiment, I think [it's] actually for the best. The cold, hard truth we all can admit, is that her voice is gone. [It's] thin, shrill at times, and not rounded and smooth, [it's] damaged beyond repair her repair. While we could all speculate that vocal surgery could make it better, we really don't know and [it's] clear she doesn't take the risk. So I say all this to say, she creates music now where she can be a featured artist but have other people do the heavy lifting. No one is more aware of the bad state of her voice and limited feature on her own songs than her. She's said many times in the past, when she's not in good voice she is her own worst critic. So I conclude in 2025, to remain positive about her musical contributions, is to accept fate as we see it - she will frontload her music with featured artists, lip sync entirely, and use auto-tune [permanently] in the studio to piece together what's left of her voice. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 20:23)

Sugar Sweet performance (110,227) by Lara from Middle East Kehlani has more followers on insta than Mariah. Shensea has half of Mariah's numbers. The reason why Mariah collaborated with them is to get more exposure to the young population, without compromising the song quality since their voices blend well... but unfortunately they also didn't promote it heavily on their stories like I think she expected it. Just like Mr beast on her video. Streaming is in the youngest age area, a category most Mariah fans don't fall into. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 19:33)

Old formula, new generation (110,226) by Edward from USA We really need to stop evaluating single performance through old school lenses. The way people consume music today is completely different. Radio still has a place, but it no longer drives the conversation like it used to. Streaming platforms, curated playlists, and social media are the real players now. Attention spans are shorter than ever, you might not even remember what this post is about by the time you finish reading it, please do not reprimand me. In short, people expect instant access. Who's still calling radio stations to request songs when everything's a tap away? That old formula: drop a single, hold on to releasing the video until the the song gains some momentum, hit the talk show circuit, it just doesn't work like that anymore. That might've worked during the Oprah days, but the game has changed. If Mariah and her team want "Here For It All" to make real impact, they may need to rethink their rollout strategy. The focus should be on streaming, YouTube, TikTok, and viral moments. Pure sales don't paint the whole picture anymore, and iTunes isn't indicative of a hit in the making like it used to. "Sugar Sweet" has the makings of a summer hit, it actually reminds me a of "Shake It Off", but these are different times. If it doesn't blow up, it's not the end of the world. Maybe "Here For It All" will be to her next project what "Charmbracelet" was to "TEOM", a warm up for something epic. I'm not counting this project out though, I'm just not stressing over chart positions. At this point I'd rather have a solid, meaningful album with no big hits than a forgettable one packed with mediocre chart climbers. For me, quality trumps numbers any day. Instead of wasting time talking about irrelevant things at talk shows, she should go there ready to perform and expose the audience to the very single/project she's trying to promote. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 19:27)

Wishful thinking (110,225) by Jamie from UK Yeah her voice for the majority it's good, it's just the higher bits that sounds off. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 18:15) this is a reply to message 110,221

Wishful thinking (110,221) by Dove from United States I don't know. We need a viral moment. She should hire Roseanne to write some skits for her social media. Also, Sugar Sweet needs to be re-sung just by herself. There needs to be a remix with a harder beat that will bump in the car. Or maybe a strong bass guitar riff. I'm sorry but her voice sounds frail and thin and it's not pleasant to listen to. I know she can sound better.. We need to up the humidifiers or something. (No shade because even at her worst she sounds better than I did at my best.) Her voice sounds better on Type: Dangerous. But SS is a good song too. It just needs work IMO. For the video she should just hire people for it. Or put it in a scary movie. Like, the movie can start all nice and carefree with this song before the scary stuff happens. I don't think Taylor Swift was in the video for All Too Well at all and that's one of her best videos. Or Everything Has Changed. I remember when I was in 7th grade I was in choir. We would have fundraising car washes. Our advisor was a "cool" young guy so we always had it on a corner of a busy and popular street. It was the parking lot of a store that sold stuff for cars, like rims and stereo systems - stuff like that. There was a Burger King across the street and we would all walk there for our break. Across from Burger King was another car parts store, O'Reillys and a grocery store. It was a busy street on a sunny Saturday. I vividly remember the cool/nice cars would have really loud stereo systems and they would be bumping Fantasy by Mariah Carey. Some of the girls would wear bathing suit tops and use it as an opportunity to tan. We were in 7th grade so we had little girl bodies, but still, it was fun. I remember Fantasy by Mariah Carey, My Boo by Ghost Town DJs, Love You Down by INOJ, I Wanna Be Down by Brandy, Summertime Summertime by Corina, Release Me by Angelina (a lot of songs from her self titled album), Feel So Good by Lina Santiago. The video could even be MC's kids and their friends at a car wash. Then Mariah can come pick them up at the end. Actually the other singers on it sound good and they can stay but Mariah needs more parts. Even background parts like she used to do for Allure. I know this is wishful thinking but it's fun. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 16:29)

The cars that go boom. (110,224) by Dove from United States I was watching old videos trying to find some old school songs with booming bass sounds. I came across Sir Mix-A-Lot, Baby Got Back. It unlocked a core memory you guys might appreciate. When I was in 5th grade I tried out for the school talent show. I tried out to Baby Got Back. Not just the dance. I rapped and danced the whole thing. I bought a pirated cassette with just the instrumental track at the swap meet. I remember the two teachers let me finish the whole thing and they were trying not to laugh the whole time. When I was done they told me I could not perform that song because it wasn't appropriate. I was just listening to the lyrics and I did not know what I was singing. I just thought it sounded so good. I remember I would practice in our yard and my mom wouldn't say anything because she didn't speak English. I would put on a whole show for her. Lol. That's the kind of dance song I'm craving. Or the one about the cars that go boom. (I'm sorry I'm spamming the board. I'm on a two week vacation and I'm bored. I go back to work tomorrow so my posts will be less.) (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 18:07)

Sugar Sweet (110,223) by Zachariah from Croatia I am not so surprised. The song is good but she should have released it by her self and not with two features in a song. Video should have been already out and not with a delay. And the last, it should have been released as a third single. Type Dangerous is epic comparing to this and the single after should have been an extension of it but with a more powerful beat. Caution was also missing the song with a strong powerful beat. A No No was close but then, not quite. So, if I was on her team or whoever is dealing with her now - release the SS alone, video out now, and next single should be a ballad but ballad that will stop the world in their feet and be amazed. Otherwise, this album is going to be missed from the horizon. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 17:29) this is a reply to message 110,220

Sugar Sweet (110,220) by BFF from United States I am a little surprised by the performance of "Sugar Sweet" in comparison to "Type Dangerous". I prefer "Type Dangerous", but "Sugar Sweet" seemed like something that would have more mass appeal. "Type Dangerous" seemed to do relatively well with radio airplay initially, but I guess that doesn't really count for much these days? (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 15:28)

Sugar Sweet (110,222) by MusicfanJ from Germany I'm sure he would. Michael was one of the bests ever, how I miss his music. Compared to him all the youngsters on the charts are "small lights". The music is forgetable. But MJ's music will live forever. It's insane that "Billie Jean" is 42 years old and still sounds better than anything new. The 80ies and 90ies music are on another level. But I also love MJ's debut from the 70ies. The groove and disco sound is so much fun to dance to. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 16:49) this is a reply to message 110,217

Sugar Sweet (110,217) by Bobby A from United States Maybe Gamma will be forced to release the 3rd single because Sugar Sweet just wasn't as sweet as they thought it would be. We are 58 days away from HFIA dropping and still no Hot 100 hit. Maroon 5 released the third single on July 17th from their new album that is dropping August 15th. It did not chart on the Hot 100 and neither did the 2nd single. The first single charted at #76. Older artists and bands just can't compete with these younger artists on the charts. I just wonder if Michael Jackson was still alive today, would he have #1 Hot 100 hits. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 12:18)

Wishful thinking (110,221) by Dove from United States I don't know. We need a viral moment. She should hire Roseanne to write some skits for her social media. Also, Sugar Sweet needs to be re-sung just by herself. There needs to be a remix with a harder beat that will bump in the car. Or maybe a strong bass guitar riff. I'm sorry but her voice sounds frail and thin and it's not pleasant to listen to. I know she can sound better.. We need to up the humidifiers or something. (No shade because even at her worst she sounds better than I did at my best.) Her voice sounds better on Type: Dangerous. But SS is a good song too. It just needs work IMO. For the video she should just hire people for it. Or put it in a scary movie. Like, the movie can start all nice and carefree with this song before the scary stuff happens. I don't think Taylor Swift was in the video for All Too Well at all and that's one of her best videos. Or Everything Has Changed. I remember when I was in 7th grade I was in choir. We would have fundraising car washes. Our advisor was a "cool" young guy so we always had it on a corner of a busy and popular street. It was the parking lot of a store that sold stuff for cars, like rims and stereo systems - stuff like that. There was a Burger King across the street and we would all walk there for our break. Across from Burger King was another car parts store, O'Reillys and a grocery store. It was a busy street on a sunny Saturday. I vividly remember the cool/nice cars would have really loud stereo systems and they would be bumping Fantasy by Mariah Carey. Some of the girls would wear bathing suit tops and use it as an opportunity to tan. We were in 7th grade so we had little girl bodies, but still, it was fun. I remember Fantasy by Mariah Carey, My Boo by Ghost Town DJs, Love You Down by INOJ, I Wanna Be Down by Brandy, Summertime Summertime by Corina, Release Me by Angelina (a lot of songs from her self titled album), Feel So Good by Lina Santiago. The video could even be MC's kids and their friends at a car wash. Then Mariah can come pick them up at the end. Actually the other singers on it sound good and they can stay but Mariah needs more parts. Even background parts like she used to do for Allure. I know this is wishful thinking but it's fun. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 16:29)

Sugar Sweet (110,220) by BFF from United States I am a little surprised by the performance of "Sugar Sweet" in comparison to "Type Dangerous". I prefer "Type Dangerous", but "Sugar Sweet" seemed like something that would have more mass appeal. "Type Dangerous" seemed to do relatively well with radio airplay initially, but I guess that doesn't really count for much these days? (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 15:28) this is a reply to message 110,217

Sugar Sweet (110,217) by Bobby A from United States Maybe Gamma will be forced to release the 3rd single because Sugar Sweet just wasn't as sweet as they thought it would be. We are 58 days away from HFIA dropping and still no Hot 100 hit. Maroon 5 released the third single on July 17th from their new album that is dropping August 15th. It did not chart on the Hot 100 and neither did the 2nd single. The first single charted at #76. Older artists and bands just can't compete with these younger artists on the charts. I just wonder if Michael Jackson was still alive today, would he have #1 Hot 100 hits. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 12:18)

Pics (110,219) by Jamie from UK Absolutely loving these pics of Mariah on this Instagram post. She looks gorgeous. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 14:45)

Sugar Sweet (110,218) by MusicfanJ from Germany For me it sounds like Mariah is just a guest on her own song. And I've never heard from the two other ladies. That's why I prefer "Type Dangerous" too. The soul remix is the best. It made me playing it again and again. I'm waiting for the final tracklist of the new album, I hope most of the songs are Mariah only. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 13:37) this is a reply to message 110,210

Sugar Sweet (110,210) by Giovanni from USA I agree Jamie. I also wish we had more of Mariah singing the song. A solo version would have been much better. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:44)

Sugar Sweet (110,217) by Bobby A from United States Maybe Gamma will be forced to release the 3rd single because Sugar Sweet just wasn't as sweet as they thought it would be. We are 58 days away from HFIA dropping and still no Hot 100 hit. Maroon 5 released the third single on July 17th from their new album that is dropping August 15th. It did not chart on the Hot 100 and neither did the 2nd single. The first single charted at #76. Older artists and bands just can't compete with these younger artists on the charts. I just wonder if Michael Jackson was still alive today, would he have #1 Hot 100 hits. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 12:18) this is a reply to message 110,216

Sugar Sweet (110,216) by Bill from the UK We all are. The Number 1 that never was. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 11:04)

Sugar Sweet (110,216) by Bill from the UK We all are. The Number 1 that never was. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 11:04) this is a reply to message 110,214

Sugar Sweet (110,214) by Zachariah from Croatia That was my thought when E=MC2 came out and Migrate not being released as a single. I am still mad about it to this day. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 08:01)

Sugar Sweet (110,215) by Jamie from UK Do we know if the video will be released this week? I wish they had released the video at the same time. People's attention spans are shorter these days and react more to visuals. The momentum for [Sugar Sweet] [has] died off a bit and it was only released last week. Hopefully some remixes coming soon too. I'm no expert in the field but personally I'd release everything at once including video and remixes. In a fast world, if it's not an instant hit, people can move on, and then when you do release the video and remixes later the momentum and interest has gone. I might be wrong but I'd like to think they have more up their sleeve before 9/26 as that's a long time off. Maybe another single before then? Fingers crossed [Sugar Sweet] rebounds with video and remixes. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 11:01) this is a reply to message 110,210

Sugar Sweet (110,210) by Giovanni from USA I agree Jamie. I also wish we had more of Mariah singing the song. A solo version would have been much better. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:44)

Sugar Sweet (110,214) by Zachariah from Croatia That was my thought when E=MC2 came out and Migrate not being released as a single. I am still mad about it to this day. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 08:01) this is a reply to message 110,213

Sugar Sweet (110,213) by Bobby A from United States I listened to Honey yesterday and wondered why a song like Honey wasn't released as 1st single or 2nd single. I know it may be difficult for MC to sing high and low notes with riffs and runs with ease now, but there are ways around it with letting the beat of a song standout more letting her voice "ride along to the beat". Songs like Take Your Time by the SOS Band and Call Me by Sky are examples of female singers letting their voices "ride along to the beat". I remember hearing these two songs on the radio growing up and instantly was hooked by the female singer's voice on top of the beat. Here is Sky's Call Me. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 01:19)

Sugar Sweet (110,213) by Bobby A from United States I listened to Honey yesterday and wondered why a song like Honey wasn't released as 1st single or 2nd single. I know it may be difficult for MC to sing high and low notes with riffs and runs with ease now, but there are ways around it with letting the beat of a song standout more letting her voice "ride along to the beat". Songs like Take Your Time by the SOS Band and Call Me by Sky are examples of female singers letting their voices "ride along to the beat". I remember hearing these two songs on the radio growing up and instantly was hooked by the female singer's voice on top of the beat. Here is Sky's Call Me. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 01:19) this is a reply to message 110,209

Sugar Sweet (110,209) by Jamie from UK I've been listening to it today, I really wish she had also sung the 2nd verse, it's a catchy song but I don't think there's enough Mariah on it. When I heard the clips before its release I was excited but I actually think I prefer TD especially the soul of the people remix. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,212) by Zachariah from Croatia No worries, got it. We are here for it all. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 00:38) this is a reply to message 110,204

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,204) by Terna from Nigeria Exactly, and it makes sense, who stays the same even in just one year? That's why I responded to you. The intent behind one's messages here is always discernible whether good or bad even if disguised as "love" or "concern". (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 19:57)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,211) by Dove from United States I just want to let you know that I appreciate your POV and I can see where you're coming from. If you feel this way about it I'm sure other people may too. So I'm glad you shared it. Your post was thought-provoking in a way that made me reflect more deeply. (Wednesday 30 July 2025; 00:34) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

Sugar Sweet (110,210) by Giovanni from USA I agree Jamie. I also wish we had more of Mariah singing the song. A solo version would have been much better. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:44) this is a reply to message 110,209

Sugar Sweet (110,209) by Jamie from UK I've been listening to it today, I really wish she had also sung the 2nd verse, it's a catchy song but I don't think there's enough Mariah on it. When I heard the clips before its release I was excited but I actually think I prefer TD especially the soul of the people remix. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:29)

Sugar Sweet (110,209) by Jamie from UK I've been listening to it today, I really wish she had also sung the 2nd verse, it's a catchy song but I don't think there's enough Mariah on it. When I heard the clips before its release I was excited but I actually think I prefer TD especially the soul of the people remix. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:29) this is a reply to message 110,206

Sugar Sweet (110,206) by Bobby A from United States I can't believe Sugar Sweet is currently #83 on iTunes. This is not good. I don't think radio adds and the video next week will help Sugar Sweet debut on the Hot 100. I sure hope there are other songs that will carry the album after it drops on September 26th. I hope there are some features and samples that will be revealed to us soon. It is Mariah Carey vs. Morgan Wallen, Alex Warren, Teddy Swims, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter and Justin Beiber right now on the iTunes chart right now and probably will be that way in late September. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 20:48)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,208) by Lambi from USA Please don't race bait. Jamie made a point about Mariah's career during and after her time with Tommy. He referenced "Without You" (from the Tommy era) and "With You I'm Born Again" (post-Tommy), saying Mariah carried herself with grace in both. He clearly said he can appreciate both eras. Nothing about race. He also shared that his nana was more pleased with him being a Mariah fan than a Madonna fan (another white woman) so taking it from a race angle is a bit reaching. If he was truly insinuating racism, he would've made a comparison with a black artist, which he didn't, so let's not twist this into something it's not. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:06) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,207) by Bobby A from United States No, I am. I am the OG that keeps the board together. Lol. I am enjoying the conversation this week. We can agree to disagree. Hopefully, we all will be celebrating when MC drops the tracklisting and producer credits. I feel we are in for some surprises to help carry the album for some strong streaming and physical sales. I am hoping Tricky Stewart produced the Paul and Linda McCartney track. Tricky Stewart had some great praises to say about working with MC. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 21:47) this is a reply to message 110,193

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,193) by Zachariah from Croatia And I just responded to a message where she was being slammed for not staying the same. I just realized; am I the OG that everyone is being mad at? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 15:39)

Sugar Sweet (110,206) by Bobby A from United States I can't believe Sugar Sweet is currently #83 on iTunes. This is not good. I don't think radio adds and the video next week will help Sugar Sweet debut on the Hot 100. I sure hope there are other songs that will carry the album after it drops on September 26th. I hope there are some features and samples that will be revealed to us soon. It is Mariah Carey vs. Morgan Wallen, Alex Warren, Teddy Swims, Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter and Justin Beiber right now on the iTunes chart right now and probably will be that way in late September. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 20:48) this is a reply to message 110,154

Sugar Sweet (110,154) by Edward from USA I hope radio and people in general give "Sugar Sweet" a real chance, it is such a bop. She actually crafted a catchy hook that sticks in your head. I love the flavor Shenseea brings to the song, she reminds a little of Nicki Minaj. "SS" is definitely an earworm. I don't remember the last time Mariah released a song that got me humming the chorus spontaneously. It's definitely an earworm. If it doesn't become a hit, I don't know what will. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 03:43)

TD remix (110,205) by Jamie from UK I'm loving Type Dangerous (The touch the soul of the people remix) it's got a great vibe too it, think I prefer it to the original. It's on my summer playlist along with Its Like That (esentrix remix). (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 20:11)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,204) by Terna from Nigeria Exactly, and it makes sense, who stays the same even in just one year? That's why I responded to you. The intent behind one's messages here is always discernible whether good or bad even if disguised as "love" or "concern". (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 19:57) this is a reply to message 110,193

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,193) by Zachariah from Croatia And I just responded to a message where she was being slammed for not staying the same. I just realized; am I the OG that everyone is being mad at? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 15:39)

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