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Music Box 30 (108,020) by RL from USA

I keep the original sequence and then add the tracks that were released in chronical order: DYTOM, EFA, All I Live For, Workin' Hard, My Prayer. Then I added Endless Love and JBGTM (live) since I heard her sing that during the Music Box tour. Although I know that version is from the Daydream tour. I think it was a smart choice to go with Without You instead of My Prayer. However my dad's favorite group is the Platters, so he really enjoyed hearing MC's version of that song. I've also been watching YouTube react videos of people discovering some of her tracks "for the first time". The same reactions come up: she has a great voice, she's a brilliant writer, layering of her voice in background vocals is good. All the YouTubers have also noted that talent of today has nothing on MC.
(Tuesday 21 January 2025; 01:59)


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Music Box 30 (108,019) by Robert-Anthony from United States

RL, I love what the bonus tracks added to Music Box. Also, Carrie killed it anyway. This is just a question that I have to ask after watching the inauguration ceremony today. Does anyone else feel Donald Trump Jr. has a good chance of being People's magazine Sexist Man of Alive in 2025? I love to hear him speak at his father's events.

(Tuesday 21 January 2025; 01:26)


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Music Box 30 (108,018) by RL from USA

I've been listening to Music Box with all the B sides and bonus tracks. Growing up I thought that album was always too short, so it's nice to hear the full version of tracks she was considering for the album. It's also nice to include more upbeat tracks. Hopefully she'll release a new album soon. Anyone seen Carrie Underwood today? There was a malfunction with the music during the inauguration, so she sang a cappella. Much respect to her.
(Tuesday 21 January 2025; 00:56)

Whenever you call live at Hawaii Butterfly Tour (108,017) by MusicfanJ from Germany

I really enjoyed the latest posts on here. Some ideas and wishes are really good. I hope MC realizes a few of them.

To my subject. Have you heard this? I always loved "Whenever you call". One of my favourite ballads from her. Also this live version has a little raspiness sometimes, but somehow it makes it even more heartfelt. I think it's just so beautiful. The lyrics, the melody, I miss songs like that. Mariah is always so sweet while talking to the audience. I love her speaking voice.

(Monday 20 January 2025; 19:58)

A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,016) by Robert-Anthony from United States

I meant to say that you don't post much. I really do try to proofread my writing before I press the submit icon.

(Monday 20 January 2025; 16:12)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,015) by Robert-Anthony from United States

Baby from Dreamville, thank you. I enjoy reading your posts. You don't post most, but I can tell you are a Butterfly baby who was one of the new Lambs who had Honey as a ring tone in 1997. Am I right?

(Monday 20 January 2025; 14:27)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,014) by Edward from USA

Just tell you can fulfill their "Sweet Sweet Fantasy, baby".

(Monday 20 January 2025; 13:42)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,013) by Robert-Anthony from United States

Really, I didn't know that. I should play around with the functions of the website more. Lol. Dating should be easier once I get back to the Atl.

(Monday 20 January 2025; 12:10)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #6 to #10 (108,012) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End

My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) by Baby from Dreamville... Where There's No Beginning & There is No End (Saturday 22 November 2014; 3:07)

"We've been hearing about things that either never come to fruition, get sabotaged or don't get promoted for decades now. So just for fun I'm putting together a lil list of all the things I wish are gonna be Mariah's big announcement for 2015 and or beyond.

6. An autobiography, maybe as a three-part book series? Childhood - The Sony years - Post Glitter.
7. A cable miniseries about her life using the books as a template.
8. Crave Records 2.0 and an HBO tv documentary chronicling the journey of MC mentoring new artists and maybe giving forgotten ones a new chance.
9. A Christmas movie produced and written by MC with old and new music where she plays at least one of the characters.
10. A DVD to commemorate her 18 US #1's with video commentary on every song and how it came to be from inception to charting. Also, funny anecdotes in the bonus features and guest appearances with her collaborators through the years."

I believe in positive reinforcement. You catch a lot more butterflies with honey. I don't think it's a coincidence that I've gotten to see the things from my 2015 MC Wishlist that I wrote in 2014 come to be or are already in the pipeline.

Mariah visits this site. Maybe she doesn't post but she's well aware of it for all the same reasons many of us come on here for. MCA has been around since the times she used to leave voicemails on her website to the lambs in the Rainbow/Glitter era. There used to be so much more synergy back then with all the Lamb sites. I miss that. Choose your battles. You can fight Mariah with the rest of the World or you can fight for her. There are plenty of professional critics who make a living and entire careers out of picking at every little thing she does "wrong". They don't connect with her humanity and that's unfortunate. They don't know any better.

Mariah's not perfect, just like the rest of us aren't. But God has gifted her with vocals and writing talents to uplift others through her music and that is something nobody can take away. So, why try? My 2925¢.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 23:38)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,011) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End

Get you some Merino wool socks, scarf, and undergear. You can wear it year round, really no matter the weather but especially when it's cold or windy. It's super light, breathes, easy to hand-wash and dries in a jiff. Great investment and a must have if you ever travel. Great and more affordable alternative to cashmere.

That's cool that you have a physical Mariahbook. I bet it's filled with some great stuff. You probably have your own method of deciding what goes in it too.

In this instance (My 2015 MC Wishlist) it was always a plan to come back and revisit it, so I pinned it to my profile to make it easier to access when the time came. If I hadn't thought to do that it still wouldn't have taken more than 5 minutes to scroll my own posts and get to it that way. Before I started posting again after my very long hiatus, I did just that to refresh my memory of what I'd already posted before. No point in wasting time rewriting things unnecessarily.

I've always had my ways of hunting down information. Mariah's always dropping crumbs since forever and I'm a curious person by nature so I sometimes go hunting just for fun. You kinda have to learn if you wanna get to the bottom of things. I take time with posts to link to sources so I can go back and find stuff even if a site goes belly up. Eric has been very generous with how he's kept all of our profiles intact and alive for a long time. I am one who especially appreciates that. Much luv.

(Sunday 19 January 2025; 22:53)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,010) by Edward from USA

Robert-Anthony, to view all the messages you've posted, simply navigate to your profile. At the bottom, you'll find your posts listed in chronological order. It may take some time, to scroll back to 2014 in your case, but possible. For those who post infrequently or haven't posted in years, the process is much quicker.

And remember, my dear Rob, as the wise old Chinese saying goes: "You must keep those pipes clean regularly, let them sit too long, and things might get a little... backed up and messy." Of course, finding a boyfriend who's a plumber would be the perfect hands-on solution.

(Sunday 19 January 2025; 16:53)


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Last album (108,009) by Norman from USA

I think [your] documentary idea is brilliant. It would be a fantastic way to move forward without addressing every little thing since the start of the decline. And you're absolutely right about not counting her out and the Cher comparison. I've thought about that guy years. I've always thought that Mariah was the only artist to debut before the 2000's that could genuinely surprise everyone with a solid hit with the right song. Her versatility is unmatched in the industry imo.

Understand from us, I sincerely doubt she'd ever allow herself to be that vulnerable in front of a camera for a full documentary. The song is still very much possible, and it doesn't even need to be a powerhouse vocal performance - it's just got to real.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 05:04)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,008) by Robert-Anthony from United States

How did you retrieve a MCA post from 2014? Do you keep an online Mariah book? Lol. I have been compiling my paper Mariah book since 2004. Edward said I need a boyfriend. Lol. Just having fun on this boring Saturday night waiting on the snow apocalypse to pass through Texas on Monday night.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 03:03)


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A look back at: My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) #1 to #5 (108,007) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End

My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) by Baby from Dreamville. Where There's No Beginning & There is No End (Saturday 22 November 2014; 3:07)

"We've been hearing about things that either never come to fruition, get sabotaged or don't get promoted for decades now. So just for fun I'm putting together a little list of all the things I wish are gonna be Mariah's big announcement for 2015 and or beyond.

1. A European residency in London to celebrate her 25th anniversary.
2. Carbonated Butterfly drink released internationally using Thirsty as promo.
3. An annual Christmas Broadway show written and produced by MC.
4. The Bond theme, performed, written and produced by MC and a cameo role on screen. I think Bianca needs to dust off her wig for this one.
5.The debut album re-released with the original demos, live performances and unreleased tracks or remixes."

Thinking outside the box is one my God given strengths. If I could deliver some of my ideas directly to Mariah, with no middle man (no offense, Eric) I wouldn't bother cryptic-posting anywhere because of the risk that someone might snatch it away from her.

I know not everybody who visits MCA thinks they're any good but it doesn't bother me at all because It's really only MC who has to see the vision and remix it to her liking. That's why I'm very deliberate with my wording and a lot of times have to edit what I really wanna say because this is such a well-known forum.

But Mariah's smart and a creative genius. She just needs encouragement to go after things, as we all do. A lot of the things I wanted and still want for her have been goals she's hinted at herself throughout the years or has had to let go of. My 2025¢.
(Sunday 19 January 2025; 00:27)

Last album (108,006) by Robert-Anthony from United States

You are not alone Randy. I just wonder if Epic was so disappointed with Caution that was reason for the instant grats promotional plan. Some Epic AR executive probably said to L.A. Reid her voice is not there anymore. Let's see what we can do to get the album in the top 10 on the Hot 100 and least one Urban AC radio. Does MC even want to record one last album at this point? She knows here voice can't paint and caress all of the pretty notes and runs any more. Maybe, I am wrong. Maybe [.Paak] is working his Silk Sonic magic with MC in the studio as I write this post.

(Saturday 18 January 2025; 22:22)


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Last album (108,005) by Edward from USA

I think most people here have moved past the delusional idea that Mariah just needs a three-month break and a bunch of earpieces to deliver vocally. Let's face it, we've all seen that her voice isn't just different, it's deteriorating faster than normal. Like you and many others, I noticed the shift back then and how her voice was never quite the same after that. But honestly, at this point, rather than sounding like a broken record, it feels more like preaching to the choir. There is no one more blind than the one who refuses to see.

I agree with you that Mariah doesn't really need a record label anymore. The cost of producing an album probably outweighs what they'd make from it. Instead, like you said, she should focus on something like a documentary. It would be amazing for her to show us the side of her that people rarely get to see, something deeper than the "diva" image she's known for.

I'll admit I missed some belting on Caution, but I still enjoyed the album overall. At this point, she doesn't need to pretend in the studio, she just needs to work with what she's got. I'm not sure what's taking her so long, though, it's been six years. But oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:58)


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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,004) by Edward from USA

We can all speculate, even Mariah. But let's be honest, if she had any actual evidence that her idea was stolen, she would've said something. Don't get me wrong, I have a huge problem with people stealing or acting in bad faith toward someone else's work, like what Tommy did with the Firecracker sample situation. But what I'm not going to do is start blaming people for something that Mariah herself didn't seem entirely sure about.

And honestly, sitting on an idea for too long can backfire. It's like what happened to my brother, he took his sweet time perfecting his concept for a device, and then, a year later, someone else came out with the same thing. There was nothing he could do about it. A great idea is just that, but if someone else gets there first, the rest is history.

Unlike you, who defended Stella with tooth and nail, I try to stay objective when it comes to Mariah. Being her fan doesn't mean I'm blind to reality. Most likely, she sat too long on whatever idea she had, and someone else came up with something similar. It happens to a lot of people. Just because Mariah feels a certain way doesn't mean I automatically agree with her without proof. The Firecracker sample situation? That was solid, tangible evidence. But "this unnamed person stole my idea" situation? Not so much.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:26)


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Last album (108,003) by Randy from USA

I always try to remember what Special K said to me once when I was going hard on Mariah's deception, "What what you have her do?" Honestly, at this point everyone likes documentaries. So, maybe something about the voice with a doctor telling her on camera, "If you keep on pushing this, you'll never sing again." And that being the catalyst for a change in her arrangements and her new sound. Don't address the past 28 years, which by the way there are tons of dissertations and dissections on MCs voice that I am now discovering on YouTube and RIP TikTok. Some of which are hours long. This board used to make me feel alone for my rants about the voice and now I realize, I'm not crazy. Other people knew what was going on all along since that fateful day on Oprah in 1997 when she lip synced all but the end of the song Butterfly. That was unlike anything we had ever seen MC do. But here's the time for Terna and LibraLamb to say I am a broken record or ranting. I know. I know. Don't address you if I wasn't sent for. MC doesn't need any label exec or manager to get her a hit. She needs an undeniable song and concept. I like Cher's Believe a lot. MC needs a song that everyone will like across all formats and we will have another hit. For as much as I have been hard on MC over the last 28 years, I acknowledge time, I know two things. #1 People generally like her even if they are laughing at her at times. #2 You never count her out.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 21:13)


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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,002) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End

Basically you take no issue with whomever leaked, shares or gossips anything someone they came up with and wants to keep for themselves because someone like Mariah "took too long" to use it herself? How would you know in what stage MC was in to justify being robbed like that? That's a weird argument because any project worthwhile is gonna take some time to plan and execute - especially a collaborative effort like a concept album.

Well, as long as you're open about it with the people you hang around - so they know not to divulge any of their intellectual property when you're within listening range, it's all good. I guess a lot of people consider any information they come across to be communal property. I don't, on principle but also because I've been personally affected, under different circumstances and in a completely different industry. It feels shitty just the same.

You sign NDAs to protect yourself and trust people you don't know have ulterior motives and in the end you sometimes have to just swallow the betrayal both personally and professionally. I make sure to record both audio and video now as well as a paper trail. It hasn't failed me yet. Highly recommend.

Taylor Swift grew up on her grandparents Christmas tree farm and has to endure Mariah Carey being everywhere for her entire birthday month (and then some) breaking records and racking up #1's, year after year with AIWFCIY. Even when MC "loses", she wins bigger. Don't you just love that?
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 20:21)


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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,001) by Robert-Anthony from United States

Side Effects tells part of the story. I am sure there is so much more to her paranoia behavior that we may never know. Traumatic experiences have a long lasting effect on individuals that other people just can't begin to comprehend. Believe me I know what I am talking about. Portrait tells the other half of the story.

(Saturday 18 January 2025; 19:54)


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A little paranoid? Maybe (108,000) by Edward from USA

Mariah didn't really make it seem like someone deliberately stole her idea or pulled a "J.Lo" on her. She kind of shrugged it off, implying that her idea probably got leaked by people she had shared it with. Then, not long after, someone else came out with something similar. What I think happened was that Mariah took too long working on her album and, in the meantime, someone else probably came with a similar idea. The only major standout from that era was Beyoncé's Visual Album, which dropped as a surprise overnight. We'll never know for sure, but maybe wasn't the visual album part, but definitely the surprise-release angle.

Let's be real, Mariah's been kind of paranoid ever since the whole J.Lo stolen sample drama. What's interesting, though, is that after Mariah was vindicated, they talked about and squashed it. Mariah hinted that Jennifer was just a pawn in the whole situation, and honestly, I believe her. Back then, Jennifer probably didn't know much about sampling or how shady the industry could be. But when Mariah went on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and said she didn't know J.Lo, that totally caught me off guard and let me know Mariah never let it go.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 17:52)

Missing studio pics solved (107,999) by Shezz from Pk

So that entire bathroom floor 2.0 episode was just over Taylor using a hand written polaroid for her album cover then basically? Nothing else on the 1989 album was plausibly Mariah's idea (one song title from an old Mariah album is nothing to alarm the village elders about - in my opinion).

(Saturday 18 January 2025; 17:37)


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Missing studio pics solved (107,998) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter

You're spot on, also why would Mariah join RocNation if she had problems with Beyoncé? We know people are put in tje "I don't know her" bowl as soon as Mariah doesn't like them.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 16:04)


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Missing studio pics solved (107,997) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter

See this is more of what I can believe more than the post that came after you regarding a full on T Swift theft moment. I don't think Taylor Swift had any plans of stealing song concepts from Mariah. If it's similar visual I get it but I don't think Mariah would ever use MC 1989 like TS used TS 1989 on her cover since MC doesn't acknowledge time hahah but it could be she just wrote "MC Demo" and used Polaroids and has nothing to do with actual musical direction of the song. I also remember the vault controversy that came up so your theory kinda lines up. Also stated in the other post is SIO being a similar song to Mariah's song - they couldn't be farther apart - MC is a beat heavy RnB song about a cheating lover, T Swift's is a full pop song talking about what people think she's like. I am no Swiftie but in 2014 Mariah would be the farthest thing from a completion to Mariah for her to try to create comparisons, they don't even have a single song that sounds alike but there are other common titles that weren't single just like many other artists might have common singles.
(Saturday 18 January 2025; 16:03)


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Last album (107,996) by Robert-Anthony from United States

Randy, your post brought three questions to my mind. First question, when was MC's last tour that she did not use any backing tracks? Was it the Daydream tour or The Butterfly tour? Second question, what would be the repercussions of MC sitting down with Oprah or Gayle King and telling the world about the deterioation of her voice? Third question, could the music industry and network television help MC's career in 2025 by recognizing her accommplishments and career defining moments with some type of television special celebrating MC? Final question, could Jimmy Iovine or Ryan Seacrest help restore MC's career to a Daydream or Butterfly level? Tommy, Benny, and L.A. helped propel MC's career to higher levels. She needs a strong innovative business man in 2025.

(Saturday 18 January 2025; 14:06)


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