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Let them eat cake (112,263) by Lambi from USA
Beautiful stories, Dove. I love how you noticed those things about Mariah, I certainly didn't. The only similar moment I remember was when she seemed embarrassed talking about having a "make-up room", as if it were just a normal thing. She's very aware of how she comes across.

In her book, she mentioned that her mother had a friend who only had sons and no daughters, so this woman took a special interest in dressing Mariah throughout her childhood. That family friend would bring her girly, handmade clothes, but as Mariah approached her angry teenage years, she would eventually reject them harshly feeling they were too childish. Mariah wrote about how deeply she regrets being unkind to someone who was nothing but sweet and caring, and who was likely just trying to be a great friend to Patricia. This woman devoted her time and talent to make little Mariah feel beautiful and put together.

Mariah just has this sense of humility that's organic. She's been rich for more than half her life but she still remembers the people of significant help when she was dirt poor. And openly admits when she did them wrong in 2020. That is truly far from being toned-deaf.
(Wednesday 5 November 2025; 12:02)
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Mariah's It's Time video (112,262) by Jamie from London, UK
I personally don't see a problem with it. If people don't like it, don't pay any attention to it, don't watch it. Why is there a permanent need for people to feel offended or upset by everything nowadays? It really is a tiresome trend.

In a world where everything is a gripe or a moan it makes it hard to hear the real problems amongst the cacophony of whining snowflakes wanting to cancel some poor individual for some triviality.

Is Mariah socially tone deaf? Perhaps she is, that said at the end of the day, it's her prerogative. She's worked hard to afford herself the lifestyle she lives and if she want's to flaunt it, it's absolutely her right to do so. It might alienate her from some people, understandably, if you feel that way (as you are entitled to) tune out quietly and don't support her.

As the old adage goes, "you can't please everyone, all the time", a quote that is more true now than ever before.
(Wednesday 5 November 2025; 11:52)
Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,261) by Geronimo from USA
I wish your reply had made a little bit more sense. The point that I was making, however, is that you can provide people with entertainment without choosing repeatedly to make money by siding with the very people whose governing philosophies, labor policies, and anti-democratic fanaticism make life unaffordable and unlivable.

Mariah Carey comes from a lineage of entertainers and artists who took public stands on social justice issues who, at the same time, never became less entertaining in the process.

That lineage includes people like Aretha Franklin who volunteered to spend her personal money for Angela Davis' legal defense when no one else was willing yet to bridge the gap.

That lineage also includes Stevie Wonder whose Christmas album taught me that beauty and sincerity in art makes it possible to spread joy and cheer while also refusing to remain silent while "men play with bombs while kids play with toys". I have not listened to that song, by the way, in over 25 years, but there is a reason why I not only remember that lyric, but also live and work according to the philosophy those lyrics helped me to begin developing as a child.

The ability to entertain while also bearing witness to the truth when it counts is the reason why, even as I sit here and type this message, the very first vinyl I see in front of me across the room is his "Songs in the Key of Life".

She makes a lot of money doing endorsements for and entertaining the people who are currently helping make life unaffordable and unlivable for working people.

The city she loves - New York City - is about to elect someone who is making that city more affordable (if they let him). She could've done an "it's time" as an endorsement for him in order to balance her glam girl persona with a grown-ups' understanding of what is required of people to live a decent life in her beloved city right now.

What would've possibly been the consequences for her if she had done that - lower album sales?

I would be willing to excuse her social and morally tone deaf nonsense if she would, at the very least, risk her next paycheck by speaking truth to power now that she's rich enough to take the hit. No one expects her to be Rage Against the Machine or Tracy Chapman.

However, she's getting close to her 60s while singing songs about confetti, champagne, diamonds, and flaunting pure luxury - and even recently shared what no one asked her to share concerning the fact she doesn't know why some people don't "like" diamonds. She should know why some people don't "like" diamonds in the year 2025.

Songs like Hero, Can't Take That Away, Fly Like a Bird, Make It Happen, There's Got to Be a Way, and Jesus I Do further demonstrate that, while she can write an inspirational song about her personal perspective on things that matter to individuals, she suppresses the same "spirit" that inspires people who begin with those same sentiments but who, then, extend themselves beyond personal spiritual pick-me-ups to some mature capacity to make a social statement while standing in front of modern-day monarchs and labor exploiters.

Her charity work is meaningful. But she needs to read more and, perhaps, talk to some more people who are not fans or hangers-on fans, but who work for living. Maybe then she would show people an example of what you can do in the face of multiple layers of catastrophe other than play the lonely rich cougar who helps the next generation console themselves while fantasizing about the lifestyles of the very people who are making their lives increasingly difficult as the days go by.

She deserves all the criticism she gets on this score because she comes from a line of people who knew better and did better than what she's doing right now.
(Wednesday 5 November 2025; 02:53)
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Let them eat cake (112,260) by Bobby A from United States
All of the negative criticism is laughable. Mimi is still going to make it to the top this year.
(Wednesday 5 November 2025; 01:33)
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Let them eat cake (112,259) by Stacey from USA
Yup, you are 100% right. This Christmas is going to rock. I love the video and didn't see anything political about it.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 23:07)
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3 albums (112,258) by MusicfanJ from Germany
So true. "The songs had a charm and innocence to them, genuine melodies and interesting arrangements." I see it the same way. The early recordings with Ben Margulies are so soulful, pure and unique. A wonderful sound. I also love her darker, rich voice on the debut.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 20:52)
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Christmas (112,257) by MusicfanJ from Germany
Exactly. I still read newspapers and books by the way. But I also had to google what Sephora is. Lol. I've never heard of it too. And I missed the add thing as well. I just thought the it's time video is fun and looks good. I also didn't get what it has to do with Amazon? That the Christmas season is also used for commerce is nothing new too.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 20:27)
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Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,256) by BFF from United States
Being angry at Mariah Carey for being rich and getting endorsement deals = first world problems.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 20:22)
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Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,255) by Lara from Middle East
It is kinda strange that the same girl who was 17 and wrote "There's got to be a way" is completely silent about her hometown with the current election and the whole bleak situation.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 19:14)
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Let them eat cake (112,254) by Edward from USA
Dove, dear, don't fall for it. This Christmas will be epic.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 13:45)
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Let them eat cake (112,253) by Dove from United States
What I mean when I say she's not a "Let Them Eat Cake" rich is that she's more like Jay Gatsby and not like Daisy and Tom Buchanan. She still has a heart.

I can tell by things she does and says in interviews and appearances. When she was selling her Christmas ornaments on HSN a lady called in and said she couldn't decide if she wanted to have a gold and silver decorated tree or a traditional red and green one. Mariah said, "You can have both." But then her face turned serious as she remembered that not everyone can afford to have two Christmas trees. So she tried to play it off and said her friend's mom used to have a small one with homemade ornaments.

Or on Mariah's World when the manager was making a mess with the makeup on the hotel bedding, Mariah told her not to do that. She probably thought about how someone is going to have to clean that. Some people wouldn't give that a second thought.

It reminds me of an incident with my mom. When I was a little kid we were pretty poor and lived in a small ugly trailer. As time passed my dad started making more money and they built a nicer house and started having more disposable income, to where my mom could buy nicer things.

One time I came to visit my mom and sat down to watch her show with her. She turned off the TV and started crying. She said they had gone to visit a lady from their church and her little trailer was really run down and didn't even have air conditioning. She said that she just assumed that as life was getting better for her it was getting better for everyone else too. She said she was shocked and saddened to realize people were still living the way we used to live.

I know how frivolous that sounds but I feel like sometimes it does happen that way. I rarely think about those times anymore, when we were really poor. I'm just happy that I can finally afford to decorate for Christmas and I can finally afford to buy good makeup and buy nice Christmas presents for my family and friends. and I'm nowhere near being rich.

I feel like people like Trump and his kids, who have always had a lot of money, don't even have a frame of reference for how other people may struggle.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 12:11)
Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,252) by Dove from United States
So you think people should just be miserable all the time? Even the girl in Precious would pretend she was a famous singer to escape her wretched life for a few minutes. Enjoying the few nice things we have left doesn't mean we don't care about or see what's happening. Watching a movie or listening to an album is better than using drugs or other unhealthier mechanisms to cope.

I agree with Lee. Her charity work speaks for itself. She's not a "Let Them Eat Cake" rich and never has been. There is no way you can compare her to the Trumps.

Another thing, a lot of us who have been through a lot of trauma do disassociate to cope with life sometimes. But for example when my brother (who is a lot smarter than me) explains things to me and invites me to protests and parades, of course I go. I feel like Mariah is the same way. She chooses the right side. Even if she's not glued to propaganda channels all day.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 11:32)
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Christmas (112,251) by Dove from United States
I'm not a writer and bleak does its job.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 11:08)
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It's time video views (112,250) by Bobby A from United States
Tell it, talking Giovanna. I see you watch Talkin Tia's videos on Facebook.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 11:02)
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It's time video views (112,249) by Lambi from USA
It was done in collaboration with Sephora darling, meaning their account and Mariah's account posted it. This company is worth around $20-25 billion. They definitely dropped some bank on getting this video around. It's also broadcasted on Sephora's colossal Billboard in Times Square. Basically, Mariah's iconic star power + cultural relevancy + high production value + likeability and shareability of the commercial are most likely why it's such a huge success. I can't even believe Mariah in her 35th year is still getting deals like she's the hottest, newest star. Literally your other faves could never. Mariah truly found an infinite money glitch during Christmas. God really handpicked her to be fully in charge of his season.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 10:32)
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Christmas (112,248) by TJ from Norway
One of the biggest problem in 2025, beside social media, self diagnosis and allergies, is that people don't read the news. Everyone is just a Google search away from all kind of information, but doesn't know how to sort out what's real or not. I didn't know about the Sephora boycott because we don't have that chain here, I even missed out on the add thing.

We've said it before, and I say it again. I think Mariah have made some strange decisions over the years, singing for dictator and so on. I don't think it will prevent her from reaching the number one spot, but we never know.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 06:40)
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3 albums (112,247) by TJ from Norway
And her voice back then. So much darker, and clear.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 06:30)
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Article: Mariah Carey's new ad isn't spreading Christmas cheer (112,246) by TJ from Norway
So it went political this year.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 06:27)
It's time video views (112,245) by Giovanni from USA
Mariah is getting so many views on X and Insta with her video but yet all those viewers didn't buy or stream Here For It all? Make it make sense.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 04:53)
It's time video (112,244) by Giovanni from USA
Nope you're the only one. I love the video, you as well as many others need to lighten up and let Mariah have fun. I don't care about her connections to Amazon. Mariah could perform at the White House and I wouldn't care. I remember people trying to cancel Beyonce for sitting with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump at an event and it was ridiculous. You can't cancel Beyonce and you certainly can't cancel Mariah.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 04:51)
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Non-single deep cuts playlist (112,243) by Giovanni from USA
I agree 100%, Emancipation Mariah was snatching wigs with those vocals. Her voice was so powerful that era that nobody can ever touch her. I believe Mariah has the best singing voice of all time. She definitely has a place in God's choir.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 04:45)
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Mariah Carey - socially tone deaf? Nothing new (112,242) by Geronimo from USA
Mariah Carey has always been socially tone deaf and her Sephora ad shows that age has probably given her an excuse to stop trying to hide it.

She's in New York glam girl and in the Israeli apartheid age, has seriously dated a Zionist with connections to one of the most vile human rights violators of the current era.

I know she sees herself as part of how people escape the "bleak" reality around them. She is also part of the problem as no one has the moral right to escape and encourage others to do so when the very act of always escaping is at least 75% of we (U.S. Americans) got here.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 04:08)
HFIA Japan (112,241) by Lighty from China
If you can use Rednote, this is the solo version with the extra verse.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 03:58)
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It's time video (112,240) by Lambi from USA
I get where you're coming from, the Amazon and Sephora tie-ins can make it feel hugely commercialized. But working with Amazon doesn't equal supporting Bezos or his politics either. He hasn't been running the company, he's already stepped down as CEO and a lot of artists use it simply because it is today's biggest open market and Mariah seems to just be competing strategically.

I also think there's a bit of a mix-up here. When Mariah performed in the Amazon, her message was about protecting the rainforest raising awareness for deforestation, Indigenous rights, and the need to preserve it. The Amazon company is a totally separate issue. People are pressing them because of their big carbon footprint from shipping and data centers, but that's not directly connected to the rainforest itself.

The overlap is mostly because they share the same name. So while I get why it feels hypocritical at first, the two "Amazons" actually represent very different environmental conversations.

Fair point though, to feel uneasy about mega corporate tie-ins, but in today's industry, brand partnerships are how artists fund ambitious projects and global outreach.

But I still wouldn't categorize Mariah as tone-deaf or hypocritical. If anything, she avoids politics like the plague. She's also not out there like a lot of celebrities, tweeting about environmental causes every day, only to be exposed as virtue-signaling fools when people realize how much they travel in private jets.

Mariah is literally just being festive once a year, solidifying her legacy and collecting her coins.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 03:33)
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It's time video (112,239) by T from USA
That Elf's beef wasn't with Mariah it was with Santa. And he broke into Mariah's room and stole her stuff to sell to make some money. The Elf is in the wrong not Mariah who stopped him in his tracks. Mariah saved Christmas after the Elf strike, she delivered the products herself.
(Tuesday 4 November 2025; 03:22)
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