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Mariah looks great (107,036)
by Randy from USA
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She looks sensational in those pictures with Olivia Rodriguez. I think still visuals is her new talent. Why worry with record labels, vocal training/rest and creating new music? You can stand still with a backdrop or stand still on stage and look pretty. People pay for that right? That's more important than being one of the greatest singers of all time. That would deflect attention from ability, right? To out-pretty Heidi Klum, Christie Brinkley, Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford and Imán. Yea let's compete against them because it's easier than trying to sing anywhere near the level of Celine Dion, Toni Braxton, Chante Moore or Deborah Cox.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 18:20)
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1996 Olympics (107,035)
by Tevin from USA
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Ok. Thanks for the info Stacey. Obviously Mariah was at the top of her game during 95-96, so I was curious if she made any appearances during the games.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 17:55)
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1996 Olympics (107,030)
by Stacey from USA
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I was 18. I don't recall MC being a part of the 96 Olympics. Celine sang The Power of the Dream.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 02:14)
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Inspirational songs (107,033)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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For the record, I don’t think you’re a racist. Transphobic, yes, but I never called you, Stacey specifically, a racist. It was a general comment and referring to the cultists. If you took it that way I’m sorry.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 16:06)
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Inspirational songs (107,031)
by Stacey from USA
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Mr. Big (You): "I don't get it." Carrie Bradshaw (Me): "And you never did."
Good, respectful, healthy political conversation is a lost art. Stop the name calling. That's all I've been trying to say to you. It has no place in conversation no matter the topic. If that makes me a loser, cultist, such a horrible person in your eyes, then I'm guilty as charged. Shame on me for arguing such a thing. SMH.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 02:33)
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Inspirational songs (107,032)
by Steve from USA
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I followed this thread back a bit to make sense of it. I understand that Trump supporters may not consider themselves racist. I'm sorry, but you may feel that way, but Trump supporters are all complicit in his racist rhetoric. I mean, just take his comments from the debate, which he only won because Biden was a deer in headlights. "They are taking all the black jobs." This may not be an accurate direct quote, but it's close. Who are "they"? What are "black jobs"? It's a misguided attempt at gaining support among people of color. Immigrants are stealing the crappy jobs that nobody wants, which of course would normally go to black people. I'm not sure he even realizes how racist that is, because it's so engrained in him. Tell yourself whatever you need to, if you want to continue to support Trump, but know you're voting for a racist, misogynist ticket, and a man who is telling us straight up he's going to crown himself king.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 15:46)
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Inspirational songs (107,031)
by Stacey from USA
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Mr. Big (You): "I don't get it." Carrie Bradshaw (Me): "And you never did."
Good, respectful, healthy political conversation is a lost art. Stop the name calling. That's all I've been trying to say to you. It has no place in conversation no matter the topic. If that makes me a loser, cultist, such a horrible person in your eyes, then I'm guilty as charged. Shame on me for arguing such a thing. SMH.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 02:33)
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Inspirational songs (107,031)
by Stacey from USA
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Mr. Big (You): "I don't get it." Carrie Bradshaw (Me): "And you never did."
Good, respectful, healthy political conversation is a lost art. Stop the name calling. That's all I've been trying to say to you. It has no place in conversation no matter the topic. If that makes me a loser, cultist, such a horrible person in your eyes, then I'm guilty as charged. Shame on me for arguing such a thing. SMH.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 02:33)
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Inspirational songs (107,000)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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I'm not sure which part of toilet paper you didn't understand. I can't begin to grasp the mentality of the far right MAGA cult that supports Trump. He's a very dangerous person and already denying the upcoming elections results. Democracy is at stake here. It's bigger than you and I, name calling, money, political correctness, self righteousness, etc. There's so much at stake that I'm not worried about how I feel or how I make someone else feel. I don't mince my words and I call it like I see it. Have you seen people wearing a fake bandage on their ear? The cultists will make excuses for Trump that they won't even make for themselves or their loved ones. If it quacks like a cult, and walks like a cult, it's a cult. I get my news from multiple respectable sources, not the Trump media, Fox News and Tik Tok. I've done my research. You don't have to do yours, that's my problem. I'm not here to school you.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 14:00)
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1996 Olympics (107,030)
by Stacey from USA
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I was 18. I don't recall MC being a part of the 96 Olympics. Celine sang The Power of the Dream.
(Tuesday 30 July 2024; 02:14)
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1996 Olympics (107,003)
by Tevin from USA
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I was only 2 years old during this Olympics, but did Mariah play any part (made any appearance) in or at the Olympics?
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 18:51)
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Vegas shows / current voice (107,029)
by Andrew from UK
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I watched some recent footage on YouTube, I don't think I've ever seen MC looking so disinterested in performing. Watching her sing "I'll be there" with Trey, she was slightly behind the backing track. He carried the performance. That being said, at least there were some live moments in that particular song. Like many on this page, I've been a long standing fan and continue to be so. However, I agree with a lot of the comments on here, if the Voice isn't able to deliver concert worthy performances, it maybe time to pull back from these money making shows. I've never been a fan of Celine, however, the way she has handled and expressed herself over recent years with her recent issues and her comeback at the Olympics has been impressive. I don't think Mariah could deliver on this level anymore, that saddens me greatly.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 22:10)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,028)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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MC's voice is what grounded her 20 years ago. She just seems lost now without it. It kept her connected to her Lambs. Now she does not post studio pics and tells us she is working on an new album without a finished product. It has been six long years now. I am beginning to think that she is not working one. If this is not the case, then why does it seem like she is not trying her best to get it done at least for her Lambs. I wish she would let us know something other than "It is coming soon." Kehlani communicates better with her fans than MC. Kehlani has only been in the music business 15 years. And she gives us mixtapes in between albums without worrying about sales or it being on the Billboard 200.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 22:01)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,021)
by Randy from USA
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I have to wonder what kind of financial status these artists are in because they clearly don't want to tour. Even Michael Jackson said he hated touring. But for Mariah, who looks stunning this go round, it's clear she doesn't want to sing. At least not outside of a studio. Nor does she want to be on stage. The acronym MC has turned into Model Checked-out. All rehearsals are hair, makeup and wardrobe. Now I know everyone says she's worth $250 million+ but that doesn't translate to cash on hand. And she has to pay for upkeep on the NYC apartment, the rental in LA, the stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist (whom I'm sure aren't allowed other clients). Does she own a jet or lease one? She's probably in need of money to keep up this lifestyle and should start stripping it down. She has 500 hours of beauty school. Do your own hair and make up. Stay in hotels when you have work in LA. Fly commercial first class. Hold your own umbrella. Anita was awful on tour and Lauryn is late to every show. I know they probably need money but MC, like what is the reason to keep this up? And don't say to be with your fans. She could do book signings, conference appearances and guest stints on The Talk or start lives on TikTok or Instagram if it was to be with us.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 17:12)
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Old concerts and old music (107,027)
by TJ from Norway
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If it's Over is the best. It's always on my top 10 songs of her. She has so many good tunes. I did like her last album, but I can't remember the name of it (Caution?), and that is maybe because it didn't mean that much to me. I'm not a goat, but a long time fan, since 1990.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 22:01)
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Old concerts and old music (107,020)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Good idea TJ. I will do this. I love "If it's over". And I do miss the old Mariah so much. The humble one. She was so adoreable like Edward and Jamie already said. It almost hurts, almost too much. Lol. The humble, sweet and natural Mariah is the reason I became a fan. It was not just the voice (the most beautiful I've ever heard) but the combination with her sweet, magical aura. Cool, smart and a litlle shy but always giving her heart and soul to the music. The best.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 14:11)
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Old concerts and old music (107,026)
by TJ from Norway
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Sadly I guess you're right. I really hate that she's so concerned about how she looks. She is so much more beautiful when she doesn't.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 21:56)
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Old concerts and old music (107,015)
by C from United States
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This would be her best bet. She won't do it, however. She is so preoccupied with perfection that she won't release footage that has a certain angle or off note. I'm still surprised she released the Tatoo club 1990 show to streaming. I'm convinced she has at least some footage from all of her tours, but she won't release it. Same with Whitney's estate.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 03:27)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,025)
by BFF from United States
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I think Mariah had counted on movies as a secondary (or even primary) career and source of income when she initially conceived "Glitter". That way she wouldn't need to do full studio albums and touring all the time and could diversify the way Jennifer Lopez has. I know how a lot of Mariah fans feel about her, but Lopez has done pretty well with the actress/singer/dancer model. She's not great at either singing or acting, but she has certainly made a great living off of both.
Mariah doesn't really have a backup after singing, recording, etc. She appeared in other films, but she never really dedicated much time to the craft of acting after "Glitter".
(Monday 29 July 2024; 21:54)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,021)
by Randy from USA
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I have to wonder what kind of financial status these artists are in because they clearly don't want to tour. Even Michael Jackson said he hated touring. But for Mariah, who looks stunning this go round, it's clear she doesn't want to sing. At least not outside of a studio. Nor does she want to be on stage. The acronym MC has turned into Model Checked-out. All rehearsals are hair, makeup and wardrobe. Now I know everyone says she's worth $250 million+ but that doesn't translate to cash on hand. And she has to pay for upkeep on the NYC apartment, the rental in LA, the stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist (whom I'm sure aren't allowed other clients). Does she own a jet or lease one? She's probably in need of money to keep up this lifestyle and should start stripping it down. She has 500 hours of beauty school. Do your own hair and make up. Stay in hotels when you have work in LA. Fly commercial first class. Hold your own umbrella. Anita was awful on tour and Lauryn is late to every show. I know they probably need money but MC, like what is the reason to keep this up? And don't say to be with your fans. She could do book signings, conference appearances and guest stints on The Talk or start lives on TikTok or Instagram if it was to be with us.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 17:12)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,024)
by Edward from USA
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She thought she would have a huge tax break so she started popping out kids as if they were popcorn. By the time baby #6 was born, she realized her math wasn't mathin and she ended up owing $1.8 million in back taxes. She thought another baby would save her, but Nick Cannon made change her mind. Later she moved to Indiana and now shows up late to all her shows.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 21:25)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,023)
by BFF from United States
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Lauryn isn't late. She's just waiting "until the energy is right". That's also why she has only released one studio album. The energy just hasn't been right since 1998. That's also why she didn't pay $1.8 million in taxes between 2005 and 2007. The IRS' energy just wasn't right.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 20:32)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,023)
by BFF from United States
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Lauryn isn't late. She's just waiting "until the energy is right". That's also why she has only released one studio album. The energy just hasn't been right since 1998. That's also why she didn't pay $1.8 million in taxes between 2005 and 2007. The IRS' energy just wasn't right.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 20:32)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,021)
by Randy from USA
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I have to wonder what kind of financial status these artists are in because they clearly don't want to tour. Even Michael Jackson said he hated touring. But for Mariah, who looks stunning this go round, it's clear she doesn't want to sing. At least not outside of a studio. Nor does she want to be on stage. The acronym MC has turned into Model Checked-out. All rehearsals are hair, makeup and wardrobe. Now I know everyone says she's worth $250 million+ but that doesn't translate to cash on hand. And she has to pay for upkeep on the NYC apartment, the rental in LA, the stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist (whom I'm sure aren't allowed other clients). Does she own a jet or lease one? She's probably in need of money to keep up this lifestyle and should start stripping it down. She has 500 hours of beauty school. Do your own hair and make up. Stay in hotels when you have work in LA. Fly commercial first class. Hold your own umbrella. Anita was awful on tour and Lauryn is late to every show. I know they probably need money but MC, like what is the reason to keep this up? And don't say to be with your fans. She could do book signings, conference appearances and guest stints on The Talk or start lives on TikTok or Instagram if it was to be with us.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 17:12)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,022)
by Jamie from UK
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Well I doubt she's broke but you gotta keep the money coming in. Music doesn't make as much money anymore so touring is the only way now.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 20:29)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,021)
by Randy from USA
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I have to wonder what kind of financial status these artists are in because they clearly don't want to tour. Even Michael Jackson said he hated touring. But for Mariah, who looks stunning this go round, it's clear she doesn't want to sing. At least not outside of a studio. Nor does she want to be on stage. The acronym MC has turned into Model Checked-out. All rehearsals are hair, makeup and wardrobe. Now I know everyone says she's worth $250 million+ but that doesn't translate to cash on hand. And she has to pay for upkeep on the NYC apartment, the rental in LA, the stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist (whom I'm sure aren't allowed other clients). Does she own a jet or lease one? She's probably in need of money to keep up this lifestyle and should start stripping it down. She has 500 hours of beauty school. Do your own hair and make up. Stay in hotels when you have work in LA. Fly commercial first class. Hold your own umbrella. Anita was awful on tour and Lauryn is late to every show. I know they probably need money but MC, like what is the reason to keep this up? And don't say to be with your fans. She could do book signings, conference appearances and guest stints on The Talk or start lives on TikTok or Instagram if it was to be with us.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 17:12)
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Mariah, Anita Baker and Lauryn Hill (107,021)
by Randy from USA
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I have to wonder what kind of financial status these artists are in because they clearly don't want to tour. Even Michael Jackson said he hated touring. But for Mariah, who looks stunning this go round, it's clear she doesn't want to sing. At least not outside of a studio. Nor does she want to be on stage. The acronym MC has turned into Model Checked-out. All rehearsals are hair, makeup and wardrobe. Now I know everyone says she's worth $250 million+ but that doesn't translate to cash on hand. And she has to pay for upkeep on the NYC apartment, the rental in LA, the stylist, hairdresser, makeup artist (whom I'm sure aren't allowed other clients). Does she own a jet or lease one? She's probably in need of money to keep up this lifestyle and should start stripping it down. She has 500 hours of beauty school. Do your own hair and make up. Stay in hotels when you have work in LA. Fly commercial first class. Hold your own umbrella. Anita was awful on tour and Lauryn is late to every show. I know they probably need money but MC, like what is the reason to keep this up? And don't say to be with your fans. She could do book signings, conference appearances and guest stints on The Talk or start lives on TikTok or Instagram if it was to be with us.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 17:12)
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Old concerts and old music (107,020)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Good idea TJ. I will do this. I love "If it's over". And I do miss the old Mariah so much. The humble one. She was so adoreable like Edward and Jamie already said. It almost hurts, almost too much. Lol. The humble, sweet and natural Mariah is the reason I became a fan. It was not just the voice (the most beautiful I've ever heard) but the combination with her sweet, magical aura. Cool, smart and a litlle shy but always giving her heart and soul to the music. The best.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 14:11)
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Old concerts and old music (107,011)
by TJ from Norway
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I hope that Mariah can release her old concerts on YouTube or DVD (or something) someday soon. There must be a lot of material somewhere. I know she was supposed to release a DVD from her CB gig in Paris. That was a good show. And what about the Music Box tour? What I've seen on YouTube is amazing. And I do need the other version of AIYM. Where did the vault go? Her alternative rock album? I would rather get that music instead of more slow "RnB". If there's new music it would be interesting with other genres, or maybe old hits from the 50's or 60's and even older. Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James and many more.
And you all should listen to If it's Over today. The album version, SNL or some other live performance, just to remember what she used to be. I love that song. Always and forever.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 23:26)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,019)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I apologize for being negative this time. I just noticed that MC does not sing like before even during the Memoirs era. When I say she can't sing anymore, I don't mean she can't do some great vocal stacking or background vocals. I am referring to the fact that MC does not sing like we have heard her sing in the past. MC can still sing.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 12:53)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,017)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I really don't like your negative attitude all the time regarding her voice. I listened the same thing and it is live. I don't know why you keep saying that she can't sing anymore. So annoying.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 08:40)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,018)
by Shezz from Pk
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Zachariah, the adlibs she is doing are live - rest of it is something she has recorded for her live shows, raw unprocessed vocals that don't sound like studio versions so they seem more live and believable.
To the average listener they are very believable. Once you see / hear the recordings of more shows you will see how they all sound exactly the same.
I don't know if it is lack of confidence or if her voice does not have the stamina to sing 12-15 songs anymore. Which is why I'm still excited for MC16 - pieced together or controlled environments or one song at a time in her studio, she can still pull it off.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 10:36)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,017)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I really don't like your negative attitude all the time regarding her voice. I listened the same thing and it is live. I don't know why you keep saying that she can't sing anymore. So annoying.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 08:40)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,017)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I really don't like your negative attitude all the time regarding her voice. I listened the same thing and it is live. I don't know why you keep saying that she can't sing anymore. So annoying.
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,012)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I was thinking again today while I was standing in the grocery checkout line. I just wonder is it common knowledge among MC's colleagues, label executives, and radio programmers that Mariah Carey can't sing anymore. I thought about that because MC doesn't receive any offers for duets, movie songs, or TV performances anymore. Her last collaborations have been rap hooks and a JD favor for another artist. I am really worried about what MC's career will look like in 2030. That would be 40 years in the music business at 61 years old. Maybe an announcement of MC16 will be her last album and it will be a double album. That would be a great prelude something new in the TV entertainment and cosmetics industry.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 23:57)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,016)
by Shezz from Pk
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I am sure if we know, they all know. I want to believe it is not just laziness and that there are legitimate issues - voice and otherwise. I don't think she will ever discuss them even after she retires. I don't think she owes anybody any explanations - would I like to know? Of course. But it's never happening.
Whatever started happening with her voice in the 90s went into over drive after 2020. I still remember the energy and passion she still had when I watched her Caution tour (compared to 2024).
What she can do is hire a better stylist at least for the shows. There are clearly still tons of people who are willing to pay for her concerts - good for them and good for her. I don't watch any concert videos anymore.
So Roe is an Olivia Rodrigo fan.
I'm still waiting patiently for MC16, I know she will deliver.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 07:03)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,012)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I was thinking again today while I was standing in the grocery checkout line. I just wonder is it common knowledge among MC's colleagues, label executives, and radio programmers that Mariah Carey can't sing anymore. I thought about that because MC doesn't receive any offers for duets, movie songs, or TV performances anymore. Her last collaborations have been rap hooks and a JD favor for another artist. I am really worried about what MC's career will look like in 2030. That would be 40 years in the music business at 61 years old. Maybe an announcement of MC16 will be her last album and it will be a double album. That would be a great prelude something new in the TV entertainment and cosmetics industry.
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Old concerts and old music (107,015)
by C from United States
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This would be her best bet. She won't do it, however. She is so preoccupied with perfection that she won't release footage that has a certain angle or off note. I'm still surprised she released the Tatoo club 1990 show to streaming. I'm convinced she has at least some footage from all of her tours, but she won't release it. Same with Whitney's estate.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 03:27)
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Old concerts and old music (107,011)
by TJ from Norway
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I hope that Mariah can release her old concerts on YouTube or DVD (or something) someday soon. There must be a lot of material somewhere. I know she was supposed to release a DVD from her CB gig in Paris. That was a good show. And what about the Music Box tour? What I've seen on YouTube is amazing. And I do need the other version of AIYM. Where did the vault go? Her alternative rock album? I would rather get that music instead of more slow "RnB". If there's new music it would be interesting with other genres, or maybe old hits from the 50's or 60's and even older. Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James and many more.
And you all should listen to If it's Over today. The album version, SNL or some other live performance, just to remember what she used to be. I love that song. Always and forever.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 23:26)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,014)
by C from United States
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This type of sycophancy is dangerous and unhinged.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 03:23)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,004)
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Mariah doesn't owe anyone anything. If she chooses to stand there and lip-sync poorly, it's up to her devoted fans if they want to pay for it and pretend she's singing. She has two young children who need her full attention, and she doesn't have time for extensive rehearsals. Caring for her babies is demanding, so don't be so judgmental. It's clear she doesn't care much, so why should you? She wants her money now, and there's nothing wrong with that. Has it occurred to you that maybe Mariah is just preserving her voice so she can still hum when she's 58? As real fans, you should buy multiple tickets and celebrate her now that she can at least still walk on stage and smile. Leave your negativity at the door, please.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 18:59)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,013)
by SM from Citizen of the World
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Everything I have seen on X looks live. What songs did she lip so I can watch them.
(Monday 29 July 2024; 00:58)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (106,999)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I saw some video clips of the first night. It was obvious that MC was lip syncing to the original tracks. It is very sad that she can't perform live anymore. If she ever releases an album of new material, how would she justify performing new songs to a backing track? And another sad aspect of her vocal issues is that she has not addressed it to her Lambs. If she would at least do that, then we would understand what she is going through. If next year there is no MC16, then she will never release it.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 13:36)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,012)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I was thinking again today while I was standing in the grocery checkout line. I just wonder is it common knowledge among MC's colleagues, label executives, and radio programmers that Mariah Carey can't sing anymore. I thought about that because MC doesn't receive any offers for duets, movie songs, or TV performances anymore. Her last collaborations have been rap hooks and a JD favor for another artist. I am really worried about what MC's career will look like in 2030. That would be 40 years in the music business at 61 years old. Maybe an announcement of MC16 will be her last album and it will be a double album. That would be a great prelude something new in the TV entertainment and cosmetics industry.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 23:57)
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Celine, Mariah and lip synching (107,010)
by Jamie from UK
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Yeah I think everyone misses the old Mariah, she was so cool.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 22:25)
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Old concerts and old music (107,011)
by TJ from Norway
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I hope that Mariah can release her old concerts on YouTube or DVD (or something) someday soon. There must be a lot of material somewhere. I know she was supposed to release a DVD from her CB gig in Paris. That was a good show. And what about the Music Box tour? What I've seen on YouTube is amazing. And I do need the other version of AIYM. Where did the vault go? Her alternative rock album? I would rather get that music instead of more slow "RnB". If there's new music it would be interesting with other genres, or maybe old hits from the 50's or 60's and even older. Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James and many more.
And you all should listen to If it's Over today. The album version, SNL or some other live performance, just to remember what she used to be. I love that song. Always and forever.
(Sunday 28 July 2024; 23:26)
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